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External SMV Hack: +1 Through Proper Facial Care

November 23, 2014

Take care of your face. My routine

1) Hot shower - do not wash face to leave oil on face for shaving
2) Shave using badger brush and lathering cream
3) Exfoliating scrub
4) Moisturizer

Throughout the day drink plenty of water, and try to get as much sun as possible in the summer months

Caution: The sun will badly damage your skin. Commenters are pretty adamant about this. Tan does look nice, but be very careful.

I use:

St Ives Aprictor Scrub for exfoliation

Pacific shaving company's shaving cream and moisturizer

Schick Hydro razors

Extra hygiene tips: always shower after working out - often no shampoo/minimal bodywash
* Regularly change sheets/pillowcases
* Regular exercise 3-5 lifting sessions/week and 2-3 cardio sessions * Aim to keep your BF in the 8-12% range for the most pronounced angular facial features.

60 mintues of sweating does me lots of good.

Before going out I
1) Use a face wash
2) Use the moisturizer - it makes my skin look much much better

I often get complemented on my face. Girls have even shouted you're cute randomly on the street.

Leave your routine/suggestions in the comments

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Title External SMV Hack: +1 Through Proper Facial Care
Author FrameWalker
Upvotes 31
Comments 63
Date November 23, 2014 6:04 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/external-smv-hack-1-through-proper-facial-care.25298
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2n6kj2/external_smv_hack_1_through_proper_facial_care/
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[–]Quansau1813 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Use a DE razor, closer shaves, and they're cheaper/look badass.

[–]jolly--roger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

damn right. happy DE razor user here as well. It costs next to nothing and doesn't irritate the skin like 5 razors at once.

[–]shawn87950 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What's the difference between DE & SE? I'm only 19 but I switched to SE from the disposables to save money.

[–]Quansau180 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The de has two cutting sides, you can use one side then flip the razor around and use the other. They're aka safety razors bc you'll be less likely to nik yourself. The blades are damn cheap and they give the best shave ever. Invest in a handle, bowl, soap and a nice brush you'll save money and look like a badass as they sit upon your bathroom counter awing guests and womenfolk.

[–]shawn87950 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like the Straight Edge except you can use two lol. Yeah, the blades are awesome and cheap, you can pick up a variety pack and find your favorite, so far I've used Shark blades and they fucking cut through hair like butter.

[–]QuietlyLearning18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Be careful about UV damage to your skin. Early wrinkles and cancer are terrible in general.

[–]bleh3211 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yep UV will age your skin. Best to simply take vitamin D3 tablets to supplement your needs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

That ain't gonna tan you, and a white man has to get a tan to look good in summer, lest he be pasty and present low SMV as someone with low leisure time.

[–]foldpak1111 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

All you really need to do is tan like 30 mins a day. That's not gonna hurt you.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's up with these pussies telling us to avoid the sun like the plague?

[–]1sailorJery1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

or do some sort of outdoor activity

[–]DougieTheCaker8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The KEY to skincare is starting early ie preventative measures.

Start using retin-a (active ingrediant tretinoin); it is prescribed by docs for acne or to help with scarring but is excellent for anti-aging. Won't miraculously change your skin but has many benifits and overtime it will pay dividends.

Vit-C serums also and certain supplements. But retin-a for sure is an easy one to get and use.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great suggestion. Tretinoin thickens your skin, increases cell turnover, and boosts collagen - actual real changes to your skin unlike many other products that may give you only temporary cosmetic benefits. Last I checked, it was one of the only ones out there to do the actual work. Available very cheaply with generics too - it's been around for ages.

My advice is to use this very sparingly at first as it can irritate you severely if you are in any way sensitive. Lay off the sun, and harsh cleansers at first also - you need to build up to it.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan11 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

1) Hot shower - do not wash face to leave oil on face for shaving

If you have dry skin this is a terrible idea. It will rape the little oil your skin has anyway, and even moisturising will not help undo the damage (you will have to keep applying the shit to mask your lack of natural oils.) Do not do this if you have fair skin. This may work great for people with more oily skin, but for a dry skinned dude this will only make your skin problems worse. Dry skinned people need cooler showers to avoid their skin flaking off and losing essential oils.

[–]foldpak1116 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Freezing cold showers decrease inflammation and make all your blood travel to your organs and away from the skin (that's how you get blotchy skin). I laugh at people that take hot showers. Have fun with your flaky skin ripping when you smile and constantly scratching it, I'll be over here feeling like a god after my cold showers and ice baths. Oh and it speeds up recovery from workouts. Come at me

[–]eric-corley16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good points, might work on the delivery though. You sound kind of silly.

[–]d4rkj4y2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1, my face glows from cold showers. Plus they are an everyday challenge!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ignoring your tone, thank you for the information. It is something I need to hear and was unaware about.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gosh guys I'm kidding. You must be the older generation because I was making fun of the way zyzz and the misc bodybuilders troll people.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to articulate that better then.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly. The same applies to hair and scalp care too. If you have hair that is not naturally very oily, it is best to avoid taking hot showers and using shampoo frequently.

For about a year in my early teens, I thought I had dandruff because I was taking two showers a day (one after each workout) and my hair continued to have flakes. As soon as I started taking cool showers and using conditioner roughly 3-4 times a week without shampoo, the issue went away.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right, your scalp is going to be the same skin type as your face and hence prone to dryness if your get dry skin on the face.

[–]turbo_blender6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

why do you exfoliate after shaving? the razor blade has already exfoliated part of your skin.

You should do it before shaving.

[–]FrameWalker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you might be right - I will give it a try. My current logic is that I like having my facial oil on while I'm shaving to make it smoother. Exfoliating followed by a pre-shave oil could be an option too.

[–]mistajaymes6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

thank you, patrick bateman.

[–]gregd281 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, nice. What is this even doing on Red Pill?

[–]serialstitcher4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Two essential subreddits that have lead my face to be the envy of my family and social circle



and as a bonus, /r/HaircareScience . Lots of people are washing their hair wrong, and have been their whole lives.

The problem with the OPs advice is that he is sharing a routine he developed for his own skin. That routine will not work for everyone! Everybody on Earth has different skin. The first two subreddits will teach you how to develop a shaving and skincare routine that is guaranteed to work for you.

As /u/IllimitableMan has already pointed out, some will get dehydrated skin from OPs routine. I am sure the OP meant well, but for a lot of people this will be bad advice!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

One girl keeps pointing out a pimple on my face whenever I get one. I hardly get them.

Even going as far to reach out to pop them, I usually smack her hands away because without disinfectant they scar but she's persistent.

[–]TestosteroneFilled0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao dude you need to deal with her and solve whatever her problem is. She may also be thinking it's funny but if you disagree state it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

She's the type to point out whatever imperfections I have on my face whenever I get them. Tiny razor bumps, pimples, food, etc.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How have you not negged this bitch into negative numbers yet?

HR is on your ass?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any chance I get. I'm still an RP subscriber after all.

[–]foldpak1110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah my aunt likes to do that. She's obsessed with popping zits. If I get one, I leave it. What's worse; a whitehead for a week or a huge red spot that results in a little blemish for 10 years. Dumb bitch

[–]d4rkj4y0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only solution to this is to mercilessly crush her self-worth. Or not give a fuck what a stupid useless girl thinks.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Throughout the day drink plenty of water, and try to get as much sun as possible in the summer months

thats bad for your skin. you should avoid sun and use sunscreen.

i dont follow that rule because i dont care enough, but if you are going to give advice about skincare dont tell people to damage it.

[–]1whatsazipper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should get some sun, and the amount depends on your latitude and race. The importance of naturally synthesized vitamin D is not to be underestimated. So it's bad to go too little or too much. Find the sweet spot ;)

The Role of Vitamin D in Cancer Prevention

[–]NeopolitanAfterglow6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]FrameWalker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I debated on whether I should list the products. I chose to do so, because it would best serve the community. I know there are other products or alternatives.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And if you've got a beard, trim that shit. It can be full as long as it's neat. That means shave your neck and those little extra bits on your cheek. Wash it whenever you wash your hair and comb it every day. Don't let it get rasta scraggly.

[–]1whatsazipper2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Beyond basic care, shaving appropriately, and having a good haircut, your facial aesthetics as a man are basically set in stone.

It's pretty much all in the structure, which isn't going to change but can be accentuated by picking an appropriate look.

If you have it, you have it. If you don't, you don't. The proportions of your face and the bones aren't going to be changing. If you get compliments on your face it isn't because of your skin care routine lol It means you were genetically fortunate

Better use of your time: Lifting, nutrition. Those actually count with respect to looks.

Edit: It's easy to think otherwise regarding facial aesthetics, because you're using male eyes. We scour female faces for signs of age ruthlessly because we filter them for age, since it's the strongest link to fertility. Applying your assessment to men simply doesn't work because women do not select for male boyishness or youth.

[–]nonanonmon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True but not 100%. Having a clear and even skin tone is very aesthetically pleasing as not many people have that. We've all seen the difference make up makes on women.

[–]foldpak111-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True that's what teenage girls do. Your looks make up like 20% of your SMV. Don't forget a mans SMV is a combination of social status, style, confidence, humor... wealth doesn't apply to SMV, it only applies to LTR/marriage. It has nothing to do with short term attraction.

[–]epixs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Having a stubble beard that is properly groomed looks great if you have a strong jawline and high cheekbones. I used to have a very full beard that was neatly kept, but it didn't synergize as much as having a stubble . Great advice man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice hacks man, really off-the-grid shit. Girls calling me cute on the street here I come!

[–]rpscrote0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Genetic acne is definitely reducing my SMV -- I have good facial aesthics that are generally ruined by moderate acne. Going to try these tips and the retin-a. Washing with benzyl peroxide daily has proved insufficient.

[–]FrameWalker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a last resort you may look into accutane. I saw some huge improvements for friends - but the side effects can be severe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotretinoin

[–]rpscrote0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Had a buddy take that, he went from just horrible more face with acne than without to 100% clean -- literally zero pimples. Insane. Trying to save that as an absolute last resort, so I figure retin-a is a good point to escalate to after the strongest OTC stuff.

[–]cascadecombo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a "hack" it's simply grooming properly.

[–]nonanonmon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to have pretty bad skin but I figured out it was due to it being too dry and the dead skin would clog my pores. I tried using proactive, but that made my skin 2x as bad as it just dried it out more. Before going to any harsh OTC or RX products, you need to take time to figure out what's causing your acne/bad skin. There is really no such thing as skin being too oily. You're just more prone to your oils picking up dirt/dead skin and clogging your pores. If you notice you get worse break outs in the summer, you probably have oily skin. If your skin tends to break out more during winter, you probably have dry skin. It doesn't really matter because this will work for both. It's a good natural approach that isn't going to harm you or make anything worse.

Here's what I do in the shower every day:

  • -Wet face with luke warm or cold water (never use hot water on your face, ever)

  • -Before doing anything else I put jojoba oil on my face and rub with my fingers. Cleaning your face with a light oil like jojoba will clean and cycle your natural oils. Water wont penetrate oil and you don't wanna break down and remove your natural oils with an alcohol or glycol based product. You want them to be clean and free of any dead skin or other particles you pick up during the day.

  • -Next I use a deep pore scrub. The Burts Bee's stuff is nice because it's pretty much all natural, doesn't contain decanting agents (drying things like alcohol or glycol), and the peach stones don't harm the environment like other face scrubs with plastic particles.

  • -Finally I put more jojoba oil on my face and pat dry with a cloth. My skin is softer than most girls, and I wonder if they find that unattractive but it looks really nice.

This regimen is important and works for my skin but my face will still break out if I don't use a fresh towel or sleep on dirty pillow cases. I never use a side of a pillow more than twice. I have four pillows and I rotate them throughout the week.

For complexion consume foods that contain carotene. After a few weeks your skin will change to a more natural tan tone and hide blemishes giving you a clean and even tone. This is basically the same effect tanning gives you however it looks more natural and won't make your face age faster.

[–]FrameWalker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks everyone for your input and links

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great advice. Never doubt the power of facial care.

[–]1NV0K3R0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girls have even shouted you're cute randomly on the street.

You allow this kind of harassment? SMH, women these days need to learn that just because I am cute doesn't mean I want to know it!

[–]tuxidomasx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eat carrots and/or spinach for insane amounts of Vitamin A which helps your skin cells turn over faster.

[–]prodigyx0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1 for St Ives Aprictor Scrub for exfoliation

shit works great.

[–]gregd280 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is Red Pill, not metrosexual hour.

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Swear by coconut oil rubbed on my face after a shower. Literally makes you glow and look as healthy as ever. This is all besides the benefits it has on your body

[–]ThirdLegGuy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also drink 1 table spoon of flax seed oil, olive oil and fish oil throughout the day.

And for those, who have a double chin approaching, there are exercises to work on that (but consider surgical correction anyway - for double chins it's quite popular and affordable)

[–]FrameWalker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I might try adding the flax seed oil and olive oil. I currently take zinc, vitamin D, vitamin A, and fish oil pills.

[–][deleted] 1 points1 points | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not to mention the unrelated testosterone, energy and mood benefits

[–]foldpak1111 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

True. That mild hyperventilating you do when the cold water hits you is masculine as faurk

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That and if you do them enough you gain this level of self control you didn't know you had previously, you become able to be completely unreactive to the frigid water on you and your mind fully controls your body, It's a good feeling.

I always do my morning push ups after a cold shower, I feel like I can do more and it really energizes me

[–]foldpak1111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True I always make funof guys that take hot showers. I tell them they need to take a man shower and they laugh like a cold shower is dangerous. Hot showers are actually dangerous inflaming your skin

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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