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Fear not rejection, fear not getting rejected enough.

July 27, 2020
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Incoming slightly lengthy post so sit down, relax and grab something. Done? Now, let’s sperg out on asktrp, read the sidebar and plate single moms our way straight into this.

Rejection: The biggest part holding a lot of guys back(new guys) is the fear of rejection.

But when a girl rejects you... what did she actually reject?

Did she look at everything that you have done, everything that you will, everything that you succeeded at and failed at, all the opinions of your friends and family and then make a judgement call on all that?

Nope.

What happened was she made a judgement call on the snapshot you gave her.

That snapshot was a 1-3 minute interaction you had where all she knew was your name and maybe another one or two superficial details.

She rejected that. Not you as a whole person.

She rejected the snip-it you presented.

Maybe it was your body language, tone or maybe she was on her period or your hair reminded her of her ex.

Girls are retarded and illogical. Man’s nature is to always find logical reasoning behind everything but with emotional creatures, it’s not always possible.

Always let the woman decide why she rejected you, don’t do the work for her.

But if you knew it was one of the former things that felt off (ie something you can change like tone and posture) bare that in mind and adjust next approach. If not, just move on.

But lets say you get rejected.

What happens next?

Absolutely nothing.

Did you die?

Did anything remotely important change?

Nope.

You still got everything, your body is in one piece, you still got your health, your money and your family and friends are still well (until some old woman with the last name that rhymes with Hilton comes after you).

The world just keeps rotating. And always will.

Do you think the opinion of a 110lb 5’3 girl changes anything?

Vast majority of men didn’t reproduce: at one point only about 1 in 17 men did.

I tried working out what that was as a percentage but common core failed me.

Only a tiny minority passed on their genes. You are these very genes, this very blood...descended from literal warriors and hunters.

Your ancestors killed sabre tooth tigers for a living.

So does it make sense to fear the opinion of someone that is vastly weaker (10x less testosterone than you) and shorter than you and bleeds once a month?

It’s just a girl. A random girl that you barely knew and she you.

But...Apollo...I don’t like being rejected.

Well, in the wise words of Vas/Sir kolbath:

*1st rejection may feel shitty.

10th rejection may feel like something.

50th rejection feels like nothing*.

You have to go through them to de-sensitise you to it.

Understand that the feelings you get are valid, but they won’t kill you.

Best way of training yourself would be telling yourself “hey I’m still alive and well, this feeling of rejection didn’t hurt me” upon rejection.

You’ll only be truly free when you have nothing to fear.

One thing I can promise you is that your closing WILL get better.

(There was a guy here with a FR where he had thousands upon thousands rejections to bang one girl, now his closing rate is sky high).

With practice, nothing stays the same forever.

Literally nothing. You are guaranteed some level of improvement.

Practice playing tennis and you’ll become better at tennis; you’ll hit more shots consistently and hit better shots.

Same thing here.

Fuck you Apollo, fuck your Greek pantheon, fuck this red pill shit, I can’t do this shit. I hate getting rejected!

Okay, but what other path do you have?

You could just only go for girls that are very DTF right off the bat, and will make it very obvious for you.

But this is a tiny minority.

Girls communicate covertly so naturally they won’t make it obvious or very easy for you and most girls that will sleep with you will be somewhere near neutral/lukewarm about you.

Going for only these types of girls WILL mean you are leaving girls on the table.

You can be the guy with the 100% CONVERSION RATE or you can be the guy that’s had the MOST CONVERSIONS.

I’m a Brit but I’ll use an example the yanks will get to show which option one should choose:

One of the best, if not the best, basketball players in the world, Michael Jordan:

“I’ve missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I’ve lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I’ve been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I’ve failed over and over and over again in my life. That is why I succeed.”

Conclusion:

Rejection is natural and part of the game. It’s like salesmanship, you got to go through the No’s to get to the Yes’s.

When you get rejected, it’s not you as a whole that’s getting rejected, it’s that short interaction.

Your genes came from the best warriors/hunters the world has known, so use them...they didn’t get passed onto you just for you to be scared of a tiny, fragile girl.

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Title Fear not rejection, fear not getting rejected enough.
Author Protocol_Apollo
Upvotes 567
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Date July 27, 2020 4:39 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]UndifferentiatedHoe9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Getting there. The calice is building 😂

[–]ebaymasochist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

50th rejection feels like nothing*.

Because you're dead inside by then

That should take less than a week for a guy who's really out there trying.

[–][deleted] 224 points225 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Nah, I'm MGTOW.

\hits blunt**

\eats ice cream**

\Masturbates**

*Develops a porn addiction*

*Goes on TRP*

"Hypergamy amirite, fellas?

[–]Protocol_Apollo[S] 99 points100 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fat, porn addicted AND NO GIRLS?!

Now, this is the real red pill.

[–]jihocech3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. This is how the rid pill journey starts.

[–]throwaway46433665779 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

\eats ice cream**

Watch your words , I leave 200 kcals just to eat a bit of ice cream

[–]clapas14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not worth the effort in many cases.

[–]Karastilov1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Most of mgtow are fat ugly masturbating beta cucks fam

[–]clapas19 points20 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

No. I'm sorry, they are not.

[–]heckin-incellerino25 points26 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

most mgtow'ers are coping incels. ive seen quite a few commenters use inkel lingo as well as posts titled similarly to "im 23, never had a gf and found mgtow, couldnt be happier!". pure denial

[–]Hargabga10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

So? Yeah, they hit their low point now, what does that mean? Does that disqualifies the ideology? Does being at your low point and subscribing to ideology that embraces self-improvement somehow shameful to you? Does them being losers mean they can't strive to better?

MGTOW attracting incels is a good thing. Instead of wallowing in the pit of self-hatred, they had found ideology that preaches that as long as you put in work, you are not worthless. I fail to see, how this is in any way bad.

[–]heckin-incellerino3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i never said that mgtow doesnt have a point, its just that you cant be a mgtow and an incel at the same time because being a mgtow implies that you had sexual market value to begin with. the philosophy applies mostly to men who have been "burned" by women whether it was a divorce rape or just a cunt that wanted to destroy your life once you changed as a man. you want to warn women about their nature and tell men to stay away which is understandable. you cant go "your own way"(abstain from relationships) if you had only one path to choose from

i know that i massively oversimplified the movement but i hope you get my point. and no, you dont want incels joining the movement because that is the equivalent of a high n count whore failing to find a stable relationship after 30 and loudly exclaiming "where are all the good men?! ugh" and joining the feminazis. both have failed to attain a monogamous relationship for one reason or another and will just make your movement look bad. just look at modern feminism for a good example

[–]Hargabga8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I find your position to be an example of arrogance misinterpretation of RP breeds in some men. Incels do have SMV, small but it's there, as is with every human. The problem is that they don't recognize it to an extent where some men who are arguably high SMV (good looks, athletic, rich, smart) can still get into a trap of low self-esteem that drives people towards Black Pill. They have mental health problems, which is curable and not somehow diminishing their inherent worth as human beings.

Just like former addicts can be reformed and achieve high value (including SMV), the same goes for incels. It is extremely egotistical to withdraw help from misguided young men because they "make the movement look bad". Sure, if we welcome them with open arms without requiring any change, it would ruin the movement and yes, those who are critical of MGTOW to begin with will use them to point fingers and throw dirt on everyone.

But first of all, why do you care what others will think about MGTOW? You know this movement has worth, that should be the end of an issue as far as you are concerned. If you nitpick members that did not fail in the past, you will be left with a bunch of self-centred narcissistic idiots without an ounce of self-awareness. Secondly, you don't have any right to gatekeep MGTOW or RP anyway, so why try? Thirdly, yes, they have a choice, they can continue to obsess about pussy by hating it, or they can focus on self-development and self-worth, and I damn well know that I want to live in the world where everyone does the latter.

So no man, we will not bar the gates to anyone who is interested in this movement, but neither should we allow them to trounce about disregarding the rules. If they want to be MGTOW or something, they will have to actually abandon their destructive misogyny and focus on being a better men. I do not argue that we shouldn't throw out those who don't put an effort in, but I am against policing on the basis of the views they held in the past.

[–]heckin-incellerino3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Incels have SMV

do you even know what the term actually means? why do people always associate mentalcels and/or volcels with actual incels? those are two separate categories. true incels have zero smv.

Just like former addicts can be reformed and achieve high value (including SMV), the same goes for incels

being an incel doesnt mean thay you can just pretend to be the main character in some movie and go on a redeption arc and somehow become better looking and respectable. being an incel means that the doors are shut for you one way or the other. self improvement doesnt help those who cant do anything with it

Sure, if we welcome [incels] with open arms without requiring any change, it would ruin the movement and yes, those who are critical of MGTOW to begin with will use them to point fingers and throw dirt on everyone.

the thing is that mgtow already does that. every guy is welcome by default and inkels are not banned from mgtow subs. i am also not nitpicking anything since i already said that mgtow is for men who had bad experiences with women in the past - not for zero value men.

yes, they have a choice, they can continue to obsess about pussy by hating it, or they can focus on self-development and self-worth

If they want to be MGTOW or something, they will have to actually abandon their destructive misogyny and focus on being a better men

most people in mgtow forums do not care about that.

But first of all, why do you care what others will think about MGTOW blahblah gatekeeping blahblah

every time i see you defend the movement with the "who are you to criticise us?" argument i can only imagine greta thunberg saying "how dare you!". you sound like a literal feminist. i am allowed to express my opinions and im not gatekeeping anyone. i am simply telling the truth. if you do not like the truth feel free to downvote my comment so other people are more inclined to believe im the bad guy and go on without your day. but just remember that youre denying the fact that your community that is supposed to be centered about self improvement is filled to the brim with retards like me who have no interest in self improvement and just shitpost about women day to day just to feel good about themselves

[–]sawyer941175 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you care? If anything shouldn't you be glad there's less competition?

Unless you're seeking male validation.

[–]nofappp0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ive been through this. for some reason i had to correct everyone. i was really looking for someone to correct me. now i realize i was just helping my competition.

[–]phenom7870 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of MGTOW’ers constantly brag about how good their life is without women

I’ve been through many of their profiles. Some are actually decent but not many.

[–]Karastilov-4 points-3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

so u make movies in ur head that u will live alone with dog becouse u dont want girls but in reality u cant even fuck a fat hippo fam kkkkkkkkkk

[–]clapas4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have multiple girls every year. I don't know what you are talking about. I don't want a dog.

[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You forgot

I'm. Enlightened

Which I think goes somewhere before masturbates

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You remind me of Pook haha.

Nice post man.

[–]illuminaci0n24 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The book of pook is why I am now here especially after a LTR. Time to tune up

[–]WorkUnderProgress1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

'Here' as in self improvement like productivity, physical appearance, hardworking, career and finance or your game level improvement/body count?

[–]illuminaci0n0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

“Here” as in I’m here to work on myself, physical appearance, hard work, confidence, career, money management.

So if you have anything I could read on or listen to. I’d love some input. I’m trying to read the sidebar but some of them don’t work on mobile.

[–]WorkUnderProgress0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a PDF version of sidebar, someone had made a post about it.

I had asked you because I myself am in a dark phase right now as my last post indicates so I thought that maybe Book of Pook will help.

[–]illuminaci0n1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ill look into it. Yeah I’m in a pretty deep dark hole right now and it blows. I just started my workout program, I deleted the bitch off all my shit, got rid of everything, now I’m just getting back into my normal but better lifestyle.

[–]actuallythink7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably the best part of the sidebar in my opinion at this stage of my journey.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_RC5144 points45 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There's 4~ billion women on this planet. Ask 1 out and she says no? Onto the next one. Look at it this way: she won't get to be part of your story in life.

[–]Phontomz6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yeah I like that. Good advice

[–]SaltyDahigi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good way to look at it, even if you limit it to your own country, chances are that's still millions of potential partners, who cares if one rejects you?

[–]Makhmalak23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man you got my blood pumping. My testosterone increased by reading this.

[–]memphisjohn19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have an old newspaper clipping hanging in my office. Been there for at least 15 years. It's from an advice column.

The headline is "fear passivity, not rejection"

[–]stolperman24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Made it to this level and it felt so unusual at first. At first I was like "Is this really me? Normally I think about it longer than now." Got rejected and forgot about it while I was driving home. Didn't woke up the next morning in disappointment.

The most important thing is to give it your best shot. I would've regretted it more if I didn't try in the first place. I made her an offer, she didn't want it, end of story. As Gucci Mane said: "Girls are like buses, miss one next 15 one coming."

[–]WhiteGhosts11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree

I want this mindset but its hard man

Gotta get more stoic

[–]SlickBlackCadillac12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Swallowing the Red Pill makes this mindset difficult. The mindset is abundance mentality, but the justifications presented here are Blue Pilled hamstering. She's rejecting you on your looks first, frame second.

Seeing that AWALT, your approach may not be working for you. You have to change to an approach that suits you. Unfortunately, there isn't a lot of wiggle room for the bottom 80 percent. If cold approach isn't working, try online dating. If that doesn't work, you're fucked.

[–]TheRedPillRipper5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

the snip-it you presented

First impressions; count. Good grooming, wardrobe and especially shoes contribute a lot. Even more so if you’re fit.

The confidence, charisma and charm ONLY come after. So put you best RM William’s cladded foot forward.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]Protocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, you need these basic requirements to get the foot in the door, otherwise you basically are walking into a locked door.

[–]jihocech3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember: it is GAME. Not war, not struggle. The biggest mistake I did was to take it too serious. Your university degree is a serous issou, your job or carrer, your family and lifelong friends, that is something serious, important and real. But approaching girls? Come one.

[–]Trp27272727 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This ones getting saved. Top stuff.

[–]lucy_throwaway2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You could just only go for girls that are very DTF right off the bat, and will make it very obvious for you.

But this is a tiny minority.

Girls communicate covertly so naturally they won’t make it obvious or very easy for you and most girls that will sleep with you will be somewhere near neutral/lukewarm about you.

Going for only these types of girls WILL mean you are leaving girls on the table.

For a few months I wasn't getting many responses to from my dating APP matches but of those who met up my first date close rate was nearly 100%. Some guys would naively think that this was because of good game or plain luck. Wrong wrong wrong. If your photos do you any justice you should be getting lots of resistance and lots of women who aren't willing to go back with you first time around. If all the women you are meeting are DTF get off your ass and get better photos!

[–]INNASKILLZ2K182 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All of this is true, when you reach a certain level.

If you are a guy of value who really does have shit she's missing out on then it's no drama. The OP is true.

If you're really a loser with not much to offer then the style of thought in the OP becomes rationalization.

It is always wise to know if you're being honest with yourself or kidding yourself.

[–]CocoaPill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Achieve abundance so that you don't give a shit if she's rejecting the whole you, not just the short interaction.

[–]mimblezimble6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Rejection is natural and part of the game. It’s like salesmanship, you got to go through the No’s to get to the Yes’s.

The system is often specifically organized to maximize rejection. For example, on Tinder, rejection is amplified into the stratosphere.

A match making system can easily be organized in ways that minimizes the amount of rejection. For example, traditional relationship brokers do not inform you on failed matches. They only present you with successful ones. In fact, you will most likely not even be aware of any failures.

Therefore, the conclusion is rather to avoid systems that are rigged against you. So, no, rejection is not natural. It is much more a byproduct of faulty rules of engagement.

You would trivially discover this if you ever try to pick up girls outside the West. At that point, you will discover that the way in which it works in the West, is simply utter bullshit. It is undoubtedly the absolutely worst way of doing these things. Seriously, there is no worse environment than what you can typically find in a western country.

[–]Protocol_Apollo[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The system is often specifically organized to maximize rejection. For example, on Tinder, rejection is amplified into the stratosphere.

Wasn’t talking about tinder but in this way tinder helps you, it saves you from getting rejected and wasting time.

You don’t have to spend a single second with the girls who don’t want to bang you

A match making system can easily be organized in ways that minimizes the amount of rejection.

And how exactly would you do that? It’s much easier to change yourself rather external forces.

Minimise the amount of rejection

That’s the point of TRP. It tells you the real rules of engagement and tells you how to maximise your chances and minimise rejection.

You would trivially discover this if you ever try to pick up girls outside the West. At that point, you will discover that the way in which it works in the West, is simply utter bullshit. It is undoubtedly the absolutely worst way of doing these things. Seriously, there is no worse environment than what you can typically find in a western country.

This is crabs in a bucket mentality. So you want to leave the west just for pussy?

The west is the best for casual sex, in no other place is casual sex accepted and normalised.

Everywhere else you go, you need something to get sex (money, status, fame, dowry).

Being red pilled in the west is the best because you dont need to be a beta bucks to get sex (unlike the 1960s), you don’t need to be famous (these days you can have a sex life of a king) and you don’t need to spend ages with a social circle to finally get a lay.

Here you can directly get what you want.

[–]mimblezimble1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is crabs in a bucket mentality. So you want to leave the west just for pussy?

Good question. Did I leave the West just for pussy? I remember that it did factor in quite large in my decision but it was not the only reason. Another reason (of the many) is that for all practical reasons, income tax does not exist outside the West. Being left alone by the IRS is also a real perk, actually. There is no gynocentric court system either. So, outside the West, you cannot be on the hook for child support or alimony. That is not bad either.

Everywhere else you go, you need something to get sex (money, status, fame, dowry).

True, but I have enough money and status. I have no problem paying a dowry for a virgin. So, these are all non-issues to me. The alternative of acting like a clown by using elusive "game" in order to manipulate a girl into bed looks very unattractive to me. I am quite a straightforward guy. I will straight out rent the girl's pussy (for an hour or so) or else possibly pay her virgin price, if she manages to convince me that she is a virgin.

Here you can directly get what you want.

I do not believe for a second that the clown act ("game") works at all.

If you are tall, handsome, and muscled, it will also work without any bullshit. If you are not, then no matter how much of a freak show you put up ("game"), it won't work anyway. Here in SE Asia, I'd rather pay $50 for fine prime-age pussy (around 18 years old) than to spend entire days and nights trying to convince her to do it for free. In one night, I spend more on black label whisky for myself and my buddies than on the girl. Let the girl wait in a corner until I'm done chatting and drinking with my friends, and then I will give her a sign that she can discreetly join me to the exit, and leave with me to the hotel. Seriously, I don't chat with the girl. I only chat with my friends.

[–]i_amtheice3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gems like this are the only reason I’m still subscribed here. Thank you. Needed that.

[–]boy_named_su4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tom Brady has lost 3 Super Bowls yet is still the GOAT

Imagine you're selling Ferraris. Not everyone is going to buy one, despite the product being excellent

[–]Yourlocal_priest1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do I start with generic shit ? [Like "hey my name is Francisco I seen you and I wanted introduce myself ?]

I'm really new at going for it but I work on my self like I'm trying to help a best friend.

[–]Protocol_Apollo[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Read the sidebar on asktrp.

There’s a section on how to open and close, then look up push pull lines on google.

That should push you in the right direction to know roughly what kind of tone, vibe to go for when approaching

[–]Yourlocal_priest0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going venice rn to see how I react in the field.

[–]UnbreakableButts1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've actually surpassed trp and have ascended to only being rejected. If a women is ever reciprocal I go full autist and smack that bitch and run away. I'm a God.

[–]BitsAndBobs3042 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

nah , my face only got uglier with time.

[–]redknightcrusader0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men age like wine. In my early 40’s I am doing better than my 20’s. Im neither rich nor an Aberzombie model but I am healthy, passionate about my mission, and relaxed as fuck. All the girls Ive dated in the past couple of years have been in their late teens to mid twenties...many wont admit it but they are extremely attracted to older confident men.

[–]BitsAndBobs3040 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

not if you have baby face, congenital conditions, and are autistic

[–]redknightcrusader0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I totally have a baby face, it actually helps you look younger as you age. If you lose body fat, you can find a nice balance with babyface—trim enough to look good while still looking younger than you are. I would suggest aiming for mid teens on body fat percentage to see the best results.

I dont know what congenital issues are messing with your face, but autism shouldn’t affect your looks. If you can interact on this forum you should be able to develop yourself. Be your best, mentally and physically fit self and you will see big changes.

[–]BitsAndBobs3041 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have natural 12% bf and still have baby face. And yes I do look younger. But I look very androgynous, not masculine. No, autism didn't affect my face. But it affects all social relationships. People hate my facial expressions, how I talk, what I say.

It means that I cant even have fwb or light relationship with women because they either get bored of me or think of me of a loser nerd or I have to lie so much eventually I can't keep up the lies as they demand to spend time together doing stuff I can't do, doing stuff outside, or they immediately ask to enter a relationship and meet their parents and blabla which I refuse.

And all of this for the couple of dates I get every few years from online dating after months or years of swiping right on the ugliest women, and not having a social circle of people who get to know new people or having mixed gender hobbies or job it means I have no chance, when you compound that with being ugly and androgynous I have basically no chance.

[–]dynospectrum71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Always been about the journey for me. The destination is wherever I end up.

[–]TheGreatConst1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you feel that you are rejected, then you are doing something wrong. You should never come from the mentality of asking a girl for anything, instead, you are sharing your value with her as a high-value man and she should work for it. She either will make efforts to get it or not. Either way, you are never rejected, it is she who loses the opportunity. IDK how it got 96% upvotes, even here most guys are still in chasing mentality. You are giving her a chance, an opportunity, how the hell she can reject you? She will either use it or not.

[–]Project_Zero_Betas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I tried working out what that was as a percentage but common core failed me.

I know this is a joke but this is how I actually do math in my head (In my 30s never took CC lol)

[–]Chab0o0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You’ll learn to approach and to get rejected automatically when you work in sales. I started working in outside sales 2 months ago and i’ve grown more as a person in those 2 months than the last 2 years.

[–]DontFuckWivKerser0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

agree here heaps and really needed this wake up call and motivation. cheers for this top post.

[–]Shaqs_foot0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Rejection sometimes leaves me baffled (in a humorous way). I'm in decent shape, got all my shit together for sure, have always had good game/conversations, push/pull etc. I like to talk to everyone I meet. Good way to screen girls as well. One common theme I'm noticing is that now even fat ugly girls are rejecting your conversations. I'm like really? I brush it off and keep moving but the past few years the girls are getting so full of their own crap it's not even worth opening girls anymore. Seems like if you literally aren't the top 1% they won't have it. My frame can start to waver a bit when uggos think they are better than you. I think it's all part of the decline so I backed out and am continuing to focus on career and fitness. No point in "gaming" girls. It's been diminishing returns.

[–]ebaymasochist1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One common theme I'm noticing is that now even fat ugly girls are rejecting your conversations.

People don't do what is good for them. Fat people are especially bad at this. She at some point will regret rejecting you, just as she regrets eating that last piece of cake. That's the cycle they live in. It's not indicative of anything beyond her own self destructive tendencies.

[–]Shaqs_foot1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Then they expect you to rescue their fat ass with 3 kids and shame you when you do. Hilarious

[–]CAPIreland0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You've put what I often try to tell my friends into words pretty damn well sir.

[–]ForeverInYou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man that's ok, but I guess my biggest fear is people screaming and I'm being arrested for harassment or Covid transmission or something

[–]Slaaaaming0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I don't think relationships are similar to basketball, I mean if you got rejected like 50 times this makes you awful cuz you'd think that you're a ugly useless person. So it's best to keep waiting for the perfect girl.

[–]MCA_T4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

did you even read the post? there is no such thing as the perfect girl this isn't a disney fairytale.... and even in disney fairtales when did you ever see the protaganist sat waiting for the perfect girl while taking no action towards finding her?

the whole point is to accept that your being rejected for your own lack of social skills and charisma and learn from your mistakes and how to improve it, some girls will find you ugly but that's life and your weeding out the girls who it would of never worked with to find the right ones

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[–]Protocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

The 1 in 17 is talking about our male ancestors.

Cave man times.

Not modern times.

[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I get that... but is there a link to that?

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[–]kayne20000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks that was interesting

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