tl;dr: (I originally posted this in two parts but due to me making an big posting error, both parts got deleted but here we have both parts) These are observations I've made while involved with a "body positive" online community based in Dallas Texas. Please keep in mind this was obviously in my blue pill days (prior to 2014).

Body: During my blue pill days, I was involved with a "body positive" online community in dallas TX from 2012-2014. This online community frequently had get togethers in form of house/hotel parties, and meeting at a bbw bar, being the people watcher I am, I went and observed some of these parties. I have decided to make this posting about the experiences and some of the things I've learned/ observed from the whole ordeal. I have made 11 total observations: 1. The ratio of guys to bbws is at least 1 to 3. 2. this causes at of bbw women to chase after the same guys 3. they sometimes will go after taken guys 4. sometimes bbw's can be just as shallow or even more than their skinny counter parts 5. they perceive smaller bbw's / skinny women to be a threat to their supply of men 6. they will sometimes complain about the men they date only to continue to chase the same men 7. a lot of them were in their late 30's to 60's, divorced, single mothers. 8. A lot of them seek romance and life long relationships from men. 9. A good portion of thease bbws were swingers. 10. Black men love bbws 11. What you think you're going to get is not what you're really going to get.

The ratio of guys to bbws was at least 1 to 3

For a lot of the bbw events/ parties/ bashes I went to there was at least 3 bbws to each guy (black guy that is but we'll get to that later). This is a stark contrast to the regular dating world where It's always 7 guys to one girl. Needless to say, as guy your odds were pretty good; if you were in the market for bbws of had lowered your standards a bit.

This causes alot of bbw women to chase after the same guys (that they all deem attractive)

When talking about this fact with one of the bbw women in our group she acknowledged this very fact. She went on to note that “we have to fight over what scraps we get”. In addition to the point I made before, a lot of men prefer not to date bbw women. Because of this they have a very limited supply of men. This isn't hard to see, just go to any bbw bash/party, you'll almost always see 3-5 girls always flirting with the same guy. When I first joined the bbw social group, I saw that there were certain guys that got all the attention. I mean these ladies were practically throwing themselves at these men; they had the pick of the litter. Whenever they made a post on Facebook 5-10 women commented back, every single comment was either praise or compliment. Now later on im going to mention one of the downsides of this but for right now let's move on to the next point.

They sometimes will go after taken guys

Now this is true about the dating world in general, but even more so here. Different experiences taught me this fact. Now before I get into one particular experience I have to bring up one unwritten rule they had about the bbw parties: never bring your significant other. The reason why they had this rule is because it always seemed to cause drama. My first experience with this was at my first bbw party. The was one married guy there (lets name him frank) who brought his wife along (another bbw) while frank was grilling food for everybody, I saw another bbw constantly flirt with him while his wife was away. She gave him compliments on his cooking, hair, body, etc. Later, I heard from friends that the wife found out about the flirting which lead to a violent, physical, confrontation between the two women; and after some time, they got divorced. There was another girl (let's name her kary) who told me that after being divorced she purposely went after married guys at an attempt to break them up just because she couldn't have a happy marriage of her own. Which is very sad.

Sometimes bbw's can be just as shallow or even more than their skinny counter parts

CANT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!!!\t AWALT no matter what size. The moment one of these lady's have more than one guy hitting on them is the moment their ego inflates tenfold. One example was a girl (let's call her jane) Jane thought she was the Marylin Monroe of the bbw community just because more than one guy hit on her at the bar. Everytime I saw her she was talking shit about some guy that bought her a drink or wanted to dance with her. Her comments were always ones like “he wasn't tall enough” or “not handsome enough”, or “ he was to chubby” (yes I actually heard that from her mouth even though she looks like she weighted 250lbs). This lead me to one day go up to her dare her to run her egotistical BS in any other bar in the DFW area and see if she gets the same effect, to which she responded by throwing her nose up at me and walking away. Another time all the women had a discussion on facebook about would they date an overweight man and the resounding agreement was no. When I called them out on this they all said that they were allowed to have preferences in men even though they expect people to accept them for their size. All exposed just how shallow they were. AWALT no matter the size.

They perceive smaller bbw's / skinny women to be a threat to their supply of men

Talk about a fear of reverse hypergamy. I heard the fact come up during a conversation I had with one of the more attractive ( overweight, but was working out, losing weight, considerably smaller than all the other ladies) women in the group. She told me that “ alot of the women started to dislike her as soon as she started working out and losing weight.” Also that “ they hated that more men payed attention to me than them”. To me this makes sense, in a group on women who are mostly obese and with a relatively low SMV, the one women that stands out as being more attractive than all the others is going to be hated because they fear she will take all the men for herself.

They will sometimes complain about the men they date only to continue to chase the same men

I saw this frequently with the gossip that the women had between one another. They always talked about how some guy “was a jerk”, “had a small dick”, “ was a player”, “was no good” etc. I noticed however that the same men they were talking about were the same men they all fawned over. Everytime one of thease guys walked in they all said hi, gave them winks, hugged them, danced with them, make out with them (shivers), and had sex with them. None of this made any damn sense to me, you talk about how bad they are yet you still sleep with them? I saw this come to a boiling point with a secret list a the women made (that I found and saw with the help of one the ladies in the group) called the “players list”. This list consisted of men that they thought were “players” or men who just wanted to just wanted to get in their pants. All the men on the list were men that the chased after, and complimented on facebook. When news of the list got out, it pissed off a lot men in the group, causing them to leave. (decreasing their already small quantity of men)

A lot of them were in their late 30's to 60's, divorced, single mothers.

Yes, picture that in your mind if you dare. A group of women who are post-wall (some by a decade) 50-100 lbs overweight, got some kids, and divorced. That' pretty describes most of the women there. Now, I didn't inquire how many of them got alimony. The one lady I did talk to about her divorce talked about how during her marriage she wanted her husband to buy an expensive two-story lake house with a gated entrance; but instead he bought a smaller one-story house that was more within his budget (something that pissed her off). After they divorced , in which she got no alimony but the one-story, she was informed that he bought a lake-house similar to the one she wanted; calling him a “bastard” for doing so (LMFAO!!!!!!!).

A lot of them seek romance and life long relationships from men.

This was a big one; many of the women expressed an interest in getting remarried. Some of them just wanted a lasting, committed relationship with the men in the group. The problem? None of these men were interested in any of that. A lot of these men displayed some red-pill tendencies. They moved from one girl to the next, often breaking off relations as soon as the women started to show any attachment. Starting the dating cycle all over again.

A good portion of thease bbws were swingers.

As if you didn't have enough reasons to not sleep with them. But turns out a lot of the women held “swinger parties” (ones where single men were actually allowed to participate). Also, the ones that were swingers were HB 1-4 (shivers). Something than made sense to me : why they said that a lot of men had small dicks. It's probably because after ploping out some kids and getting pounded at these swinger events. Their vagina’s probably don't look like vaginas anymore. They probably look like a mixture the innards of a half eaten Arby's roast beef sandwich and the grand canyon. Having sex with them has got to be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway, or cave diving. (hell more like shooting a rocket into space!)

Black men love bbws

Being black myself, I always saw that a majority of the men in the group were black. To them they just wanted “bigger booty and more breasts”. If you wonder where the stereotype came from, it was here.

What you think you're going to get is not what you're really going to get.

Another shot one to elaborate on. I assume that most redpillers prefer to date thinner women but for those who do spin dinner plates, If you think you're going to date some young cute chubby women, newsflash you're not. Chances are those ones are still riding the alpha cock carousel as opposed to the old, worn, out flea market carousel these ladys are forced to ride but want to get off of (irony isn't it?). Also, Don’t be fooled by some of the facebook pics these women have that show their face with gobs of makeup, fat girl cleavage, and so on. If you do fall for that trap, you'll regret it when to meet them in person and see just how big they are.

Lessions: ~ AWALT no matter the size, ~ when it comes to dating, the shoe was on the other foot here. ~ there's men willing to date them ~ It seems like the "bbws" who probaly rode the alpha cock carousel when they were in their 20's are now forced to ride it again when the one thing they want them most is a lasting relationship. But now they're trapped with a group of men who will give them attention but will never commit starting the cycle all over again. It reminds me of the song "Hotel California" where they can check out but never leave. It's kinda sad but like I said, it's my observation