So was out at a club with a couple of my girls. The waiter evidently took exception to an older man being out with two much younger women, and the women enjoying it. So he told one of them that if I was giving them any trouble or trying to "force them to do something they didn't want to do" that all either of them had to do was tell him and he would "take care of it".
The only thing this guy was going to "take care of" was my drink order.
Result: He crashed and burned, hard. The girls were totally creeped out. I only found out about it after he brought the bill and they insisted that I not tip him at all. That is not usually my M.O. and the guy had been polite enough to me--to my face. But they were adamant. So later the girl he had approached told me what he said to her and that he had put his hand on her shoulder, which she didn't like because, "it wasn't his place" to do that, or to say that about me, and she really didn't like it that he touched her, even though this was the sort of "light touch on the shoulder" that was intended to offer reassurance and certainly wasn't in the 'boyfriend only zone'.
She also asked why he would do that so I explained the concept to her, i.e. he's got no shot with them other to present himself as the "hero" rescuing her (or both of them) from the clutches of an Evil Ogre me. White Knights assume that women like men who are "Noble and Good" and because they, as White Knights are more "Noble and Good" than other men, then women should prefer them.
It's a losing strategy, and it had exactly the opposite effect that he had intended. Plus, he fucked himself out of a tip, and I usually tip relatively heavy if the service is good (which, apart from the white-knighting, which had gone on behind my back, it was).
Takeaways
A. Don't be that guy.
B. People make their own deals in life and it's not up to Beta Losers to "rescue" girls who don't want or need their help.
C. White-Knighting waiter creeps out girls so badly that they actively punish him for it, and he fucks himself out of healthy tip.
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