Hamster explains why anti-rape nail varnish is bad

August 26, 2014
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A nail varnish that changes color in the presence of date rape drugs was recently developed by four male STEM students at North Carolina State University. A woman wearing this product need simply dip a finger into her glass and stir to ensure her drink has not been tampered with.

This hamster writing for The Telegraph isn't impressed, calling the inventors "ill-informed and misguided." Why? In her words, the product "sends out a disturbing message", "implies that it’s a woman’s prerogative to avoid being raped" and "smacks of victim blaming." She goes on to suggest that a woman has no responsibility to protect herself: "We’re perpetuating the myth that navigating possible rape is a woman’s responsibility."

Her solution? "Talk to young boys and men, have conversations around consent and teach them not to rape in the first place."

That's right, gentlemen: We're all rapists by default, we need to be sat down and taught not to rape and women have zero responsibility to protect themselves. So little responsibility, in fact, that any product intended to help them do so is clearly just victim blaming. Instead of being applauded for empowering women with a new tool, these men and their investors are denigrated: "What’s the betting the money came from a man?", the author sarcastically remarks.

As usual, when it comes to helping women, we're damned if we do, damned if we don't.

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Title Hamster explains why anti-rape nail varnish is bad
Author 1independentmale
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Date August 26, 2014 6:12 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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[–]7ravicus105 points106 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Whatever, according to an article that was posted a couple times here the last few days, and as many of us just know anyways, the number of times "date rape drugs" are actually used when a woman blacks out is small as fuck. Women aren't being roofied all the time, as much as they like to think they're special enough for someone to bother with that shit. They just drink till they black out, then assume it must have been drugs.

As if these women are being drugged every other weekend.

[–]1xwm19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As if these women are being drugged every other weekend.

Hey. They obviously are, there is no other explanation. If they're being drugged every other week, think of how the roofie industry is making millions off of it. And the patriarchy is behind it reaping all the rewards. And now they're profiting from the detection measures too? They may as well be charging for each rape and taxing it! WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE ACTUALLY DOING ANYTHING!! /s

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are required to be accountable, women are not, because women are capable independently strong victims incapable of defending themselves.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

They just drink till they black out,

That is what they claim, anyway, that they blacked out.

[–]dvrzero11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I blacked out one time. Ever. And I've had real moonshine and ever clear and puked my guts out for hours.

I blacked out once. In 17 years of drinking.

Must be nice to cop out like that, though.

[–]squishles4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotta remember 115 small girl doesn't take a lot to black out, but not really an excuse for 200 pound girl.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was curious so I looked up the statistics the other day. The article I found said that of the drug facilitated date rapes, 65% was alcohol. 30% was attributed to other drugs the women took themselves, and 5% was attributed to them being unknowingly drugged.

On the other hand, the guys might just be smart enough to know who to market their product to with all the rape hysteria that's present.

edit: Here is the article for anyone interested https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/212000.pdf

[–]saucey_cow 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

This is the way I see it, if you're a "rapist", why not just get her wasted to the point where she blacks out and an air horn won't even wake her up? Wouldn't it be cheaper to get a few shots than buy drugs? From a financial standpoint it just makes more sense to me to spend less money.

[–]mynewaccount420 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know this is old, but as an occasional recreational drug user I have to point out that this is false. Benzodiazepines have a very low street price. I can get 1mg xanax pills for 1 euro each. 3 of those and you are guaranteed to black out if you don't have tolerance. Add alcohol and it becomes even easier (and deadly). I don't know many people who can black out from alcohol for 3 euros (3.82 dollars at the time of writing). Now, it would take a really pathetic individual to slip people xanax, which is why it doesn't actually happen, but in theory it is a solid, cheap and reliable method to rape/rob/kill someone. Under the influence of enough xanax you do unthinkably stupid shit, and next day you have zero memories. Its like alcohol times a thousand.

[–]Burner1701-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alcohol is the most common spike though and the nail polish won't help with that. I would have thought a dip stick would be more practical than nail polish too if a girl did want to be able to test a drink, the polish sounds clever but probably isn't that practical.

[–]nineteenseventy132 points133 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Women detest accountability or responsibility. This anti-rape nail varnish puts some responsibility in the woman's court which is not what they want. They want no accountability for their actions, even if that means placing themselves at risk. They expect the world to be a safe place like depicted in Disney cartoons.

[–]4io8 31 points31 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I hate to say it, but they also love plausible deniability for their own decisions too. With the success of feminism there are far fewer ways to acheive this. This reaction of a woman to something designed to protect against rape is almost inexplicable without trp.

[–]admirals_go_nuts0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, for a male mind to understand how would any type of reasoning come to a conclusion like that we need God Damn tools

[–]Radox_Redux10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's less about accountability and more about the fact that they lose an arrow from their quiver of lies they can use:

'I was date raped'.

Every crime preventative that's created for women's use is one crime they lose the means to properly fake without excuse. It's the opposite of plausible deniability: Plausible victimhood.

[–]TRP Vanguardnicethingyoucanthave8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This anti-rape nail varnish puts some responsibility in the woman's court

It's not entirely accurate to characterize it as responsibility. If you want to know who society holds responsible, look at who we put in jail. We put rapists in jail. There will never be a time when we're about to put a rapist in jail for drugging a woman and someone said, "hold on, wait a second, she had that special nail polish but she didn't use it therefore the rapist is not guilty and she goes to jail!"

It's not responsibility. It's better than that - it's power. This would give women power, and yet feminists are against it. It's like 1984 "freedom is slavery" doublethink.

[–]nineteenseventy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yes thats the correct word. How about they don't proactively want to improve their situation?

[–]1AlienSunrise-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's retarded bitches like the one who wrote this article that make me so happy to be a part of this community.

[–]bluedrygrass-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's more. Some of them even wants some things to happen. To feel helpless, to be fucked but without even the responsibility of doing it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar57 points58 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

/u/nigglereddit called it very well in /r/mensrights:

This is a bit of a red herring.

The real reason they're opposed to this is very simple: actual drugging of drinks in bars and nightclubs is incredibly rare. In fact of those alleging that they've been given the drugs, only 5% actually were according to reliable sources[1] .

I worked as a doorman and saw numerous girls who claimed they must have been "roofied" because they'd "only had a couple of drinks" - then when we tallied up how much they'd actually had it turned out to be ten or more drinks. We actually got to the stage where bar staff use the computerized till to monitor consumption so we could print out receipts to show the police when the girls made allegations.

The truth threatens the rape industry. When it's their own customers who will be finding out that they haven't been drugged, the threat to their business is immediate and serious. They'll do whatever they can to stop it.

TL;DR: this nail polish will reveal how infrequently women are actually drugged, which will demolish the false hysteria around rufies.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Great post. Roofies are the ultimate scape goat for women to avoid actually taking responsibility for their actions. Got really drunk and made bad decisions? Must have been the roofies. Got high with someone and made bad decisions? Weed was obviously laced. Didn't do either, but still made a terrible choice? Water must have been roofied

For people who actually have a real knowledge about drugs (I would put myself into this category), the idea of roofies being a widespread phenomenon is laughable. It's not impossible to get roofied, of course, but the chances are extremely low. Maybe from now on, every time I make a drunken fool out of myself, I can just blame the infamous roofies and all accountability will dissolve away.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRed_August0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The actual usage of (non-alcohol) drugs for the intent of rape is extremely low. Its arguably a fantasy, an urban near-myth. You'd have to be a real special snowflake to be the target of such an elaborate scheme and bodily desire. Thus the unique selling proposition (USP) to the special snowflakes - that's the potential profit for the makers of the varnish. All is good in the business of making money but unfortunately, the nail varnish only adds to the hysteria of rape culture.

[–]Wake_and_Poi3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know one person who was roofied in real life. He's gay, we were at a rave, some sketch 50 ish looking dude with hard meth face was trying to pull him away from our group after buying him a drink. He was incoherent and his eyes were Rolling back in his head. We had to fight the dude away and he escaped into the crowd. He had no memory of the night the next day.

Roofies are serious business. But, that is the only instance I have ever seen or heard of them used. I have friends who are bouncers, djs, promoters, dancers, they don't see anything like that. My one example is a dude.

[–][deleted] -3 points-3 points | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

MRM's have called the phenomenon, "hypoagency."

Women go through life encouraged to feel like things "just happen to them" and they have no power. It's insidious and disgusting.

[–]rigit2351 points52 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

So even trying to help fend off rape is now victim shaming. Right.

[–]1xwm24 points25 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

A buddy of mine actually stopped a girl from getting raped once. She slapped him because "she could have taken care of herself." Right. You had the black dude who was three feet taller than you and about a couple times heavier by the balls I'm sure.

[–]1cover20-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But if he did nothing and she regretted it later, she would have said he was assisting a rapist.

Given that choice, the best thing is to get away so she can't even say you knew what was going on. You can't trust her to value your help, so let things follow the natural course.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But then you left her, and that strong independent victim was raped after getting caught cheating on her boyfriend.

[–]ilovemyself101-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck it leave her, shouldnt be walking down that dodgy street at night anyway if you dont want bad shit to happen, I dont walk down it because i dont want to get mugged... but thats because I take responsibility of the decisions i make

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's actually beyond parody isn't it.

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[–]Kloohorn15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"So here's a bulletproof vest. Wear it in case criminals start shooting at you"

"Just teach criminals not to shoot at me SHITLORD."

[–]deadgod135 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The anti rape nail varnish is actually an elaborate trojan horse. It's laced with GHB and when the girls use it, they will knock themselves out, only to be raped by the four pictured men in the original article.

[–]Hateblade13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I expect all white knights to begin wearing nail polish and offering to test their lady's drink for them.

[–]grateday10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Let me test your drink for you M'lady

[–]Gold_Leaf_Initiative3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let me test your drink for you M'lady

slams entire drink "It's probably fine."

[–]riverraider6912 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It also takes away the excuse. If women (can) use this, they can no longer drink until they pass out and blame drugs for it.

[–]2Overkillengine3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thus the hamstering.

They don't want solutions, they want excuses.

[–]karmaisdharma1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah bro, that varnish must've just been a bad batch.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Begs the question...if so many damn women are getting raped all the time, why are they hanging around with rapists? It is often said that you are what you associate with, so if these women are associating/partying/drinking with rapists, doesn't that also make them rapists? Perhaps not, but it does make these women horrible judges of character.

I mean, if I hung around a woman who I thought there was a reasonable chance would kick me in the balls, I'm not gonna hang around with her.

Hey women, listen: less than 2% of the male population are "rapists". Most rape victims claim they "personally knew their attacker". So stop associating/partying/drinking with RAPISTS. Problem solved.

[–]trafalgar112 7 points7 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I think it is actually less than 1%.

2% may be sex offenders. Pee-ing on the roadside makes you a sex offender. As well as a 20 year old male having consensual sex with a 16 year old female.

Women want something to be protected from. The hamster demands it.

[–]EdwardoSuperTramp4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm. Am 21 year old male sex offender. When I was 18 and just out of highschool, proof was discovered that my 15 year old sophomore girlfriend and I had sex. The girl didn't want to press charges, her family didn't want to press charges, and I still spent 30 days in jail. 2% of males being a legitimate sex offender seems ridiculously high, and I'm part of the reason the statistic is so skewed.. :\

[–]MagicGainbow21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women would rather complain than come up with a solution? gotcha.

[–]ChristopherBurr18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

she doesn't have to use the varnish, and in fact, she doesn't have to protect herself against rape at all. Who really cares what happens to her.

[–]-Slutlord-Fascist-12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she doesn't have to use the varnish, and in fact, she doesn't have to protect herself against rape at all. Who really cares what happens to her.

Feminist rape hysteria is based on unattractive women who want to be the object of someone's rape fantasies.

Ten bucks says she flicks her clit thinking about Daddy plowing her untilled field.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorF9R13 points14 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

"Talk to young boys and men, have conversations around consent and teach them not to rape in the first place."

The absurd thing is that society already does this. We all know that rape is a serious crime, right up there with murder. The feminists are the ones who need rape explained to them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Personally, I find this kind of rhetoric by feminists insulting. I'm pretty sure I know that "rape = bad". I don't need to go to "rape = bad" classes.

Maybe women should take "sex that you happen to regret late =\= rape" classes.

[–]madhax0r3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is a positively brilliant fucking product.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The REAL problem is that it will show how rare "date rape drugs" are actually used and possibly exonerate many falsely accused men.

[–]Burner17012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is rare, but it happens. I know a girl who was fucked up and the police got a positive test result off her. I also read this the other day...
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-22/barman-offered-to-spike-drinks-for-cash-court-told/5690808

But yeah date rape drugging is pretty rare, it's more usually quietly added extra shots (which is also illegal). Girls should just buy their own damn drinks.

[–]SoSaltyDoe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If a guy gets home invaded in the middle of the day and gets screwed over, no one's gonna sit there and say "WELL he should've had a gun at the house loaded and ready." The home invaders are still the bad guys, the assholes. No one's blaming the home-owner for the burglary. However, if anyone decides they want to have a gun in their house just in case something like this happens, no one would hold it against them.

No one's going to blame you for not having a gun in your house when you get robbed, and no one's going to blame you for not testing each and every drink you get at a club if you're date raped. Taking measures to prevent bad things from happening to you is not the equivalent of taking responsibility for the bad things that may happen to you.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup as a default male rapist which has been established by the matriarchy I need to be taught how to not rape. It is that simple.

[–]reds-under-the-bed6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stemming from victim blaming but still on the topic of drugged drinks this reminds of a social experiments type tv show where they got a female actor to "spike" the drink of a male actor in front of everyone. All the unaware public commented on it but didn't say anything even when the male actor started acting very sick.

They simulated the situation again where a male actor "spikes" the females drink and everyone in the bar loses their shit gets aggressive with him.

Just some food for thought.

This isn't the same one as I referenced but very similar

[–][deleted] 7 points7 points | Copy Link

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[–]awesomesalsa-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In our culture, feigning victimhood is a means to attaining power unless you're a straight white male in which case you actually have to attain power the old fashioned way.

[–]philipzimbardo 5 points5 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I've always gotten flak for suggesting that steps could be taken to prevent potential instances. Just as you wouldn't park your lambo in Compton, don't walk around scantily clad in rough areas or drunkenly lead people on for tease. Sure, it's not illegal and the perpetrator is at fault, but why take unnecessary risk just because you SHOULD be able to. We should all be able to walk around 8 mile without fear, but we just don't.

[–]1independentmale[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You took the words right out of my mouth. The perpetrator is at fault for the crime, this much is clear. However, the victim in many instances contributes to the sequence of events that leads to the crime and could have avoided becoming a victim in the first place by using some common sense. To deny this simple logic is insanity.

Women shouldn't have to paint their nails with Undercover Colors and test their drinks, and in fact most women will probably never have a need for this product. That being said, some do. Some women go out to sketchy bars, accept drinks from randoms and don't bring a trusted friend or three to keep watch on one another. If she's stacking the odds against herself, a product like this can help mitigate some of the risk and liability of her chosen lifestyle.

[–]__var0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine telling people:

Don't teach your kids not to take candy from strangers. Don't teach your kids not to get in a stranger's car. Instead, teach adults not to abduct children. Stop blaming the victims! Teaching your kids how not to get abducted is basically saying, "hey, go steal someone else's kid".

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

And this is why those Beta White Knights will never get anything except blue balls and a pat on the back for being a good boy out of their invention.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And that sweet cash prize they got, because men realize how fucking awesome this invention is.

[–]1independentmale[S] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's good science. I love it. Sure, you can buy test strips that do the same, but what woman wants to pull one of those out in front of that hot guy who just bought her a drink - and again and again for every drink throughout the course of an evening?

A finger can be dipped easily without anybody noticing if she's careful about it. Dip again if you fuck up and leave your drink unattended, etc. If I were a smokin' hottie with a taste for the night life, I'd be all over this.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but that makes too much sense.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

According to FBI crime statistics Rape and Date rape are incredibly rare. However some women especially undatable feminists have fantasies of being taken by a strong confident attractive alpha who cant help but ravish her because of how much he wants her. But how is an ogre feminist going to vicariously live her fantasy? By constantly talking about rape. Closetted homosexuals frequently talk about the evils of gay sex. Tons of internet safety advocates have been caught with child porn. These people cant help but talk about their fetish and the only politicaly correct way for them to do it is to launch a crusade against it.

Now some chemical engineers have created a nail polish that detects GHB. Unfortunately a solution to the problem endangers what most of these feminists really want: Discussion of their erotic rape fantasies with other like mindex fetishists.

[–]psycho-logical -4 points-4 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Define rare. I think 1 in 4 is bullshit and agree with most of what has been said in this thread, but also think sexual assault crimes are far too common. Men should care more about helping mitigate the raping of women than about victim blaming (even if they should be doing way more to protect themselves).

[–]rpkarma1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Like what? What do you want me to do about it specifically? Stop raping? Well I never started and never will, so that's impossible and insulting.

[–]PokeChopSandwiches-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"helping mitigate the raping of women" Like a group of guys inventing a way to detect date rape drugs?

Obviously this invention is a spit in the face to feminists. Of course. There is pretty much nothing men can do to "mitigate" the raping of women. Anything that a straight white man does, that involves sexual assault, is going to provoke a negative response for feminists. It has no bearing what the action is, because of who the action is coming from.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well in this case a dude invented nsil polish tbat would mitigate some types of rape but fems found that problematic anyway.

[–]dhump4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was developed by men. Had it been developed by women, their praises would be sung from the headline of every major newspaper.

[–]Menadian1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From now on I am going to wear that !

[–]TheRealMewt6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's funny because a lot of the feminists I talked to about this or heard them mention on facebook say this anti-rape nail polish is actually a good idea. It's like some feminists don't even know what their agenda is anymore.

[–]psycho-logical -3 points-3 points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's almost like people can have independent thought and can't be lumped under one term that defines their entire being.

I mean, I identify as liberal, but am still pro death penalty, pro gun, pro drug testing for welfare etc...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

And here I though the danger was that this nail polish would make false rape accusations easier. A woman is out with bloke and for whatever reason she wants to burn him. She drops the roofie in her own drink, dips the nail polish, watches it turn blue or whatever color it turns....poof instant rapist. Now the burden of proof is on the hapless dude to prove he didn't spike the drink.

I also noticed that on the Undercover Colors FB page, none of the photos actually show the product working. Hmmm....

[–]Hokuto199x4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone knows rape is a crime and wrong. Everyone knows stealing is a crime and wrong. Everyone knows murder is a crime and wrong. These things still occur and no amount of conversation/talking will eliminate them. The people that do these things either don't care that it's wrong or they find some way to convince themselves that their circumstance is somehow special. There's no other issue where anyone would consider this line of thinking, but can you imagine?

Don't teach police how to apprehend suspects, instead teach the suspects not to flee and resist arrest!

Don't tell me to lock my doors - instead tell thieves not to steal!

Don't tell me to look both ways - instead teach drivers not to run me over!

It's really tragic how stupid this is.

[–]1AlienSunrise1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When will people get that YOU CANT TEACH RAPISTS NOT TO RAPE, in the same way you cant just tell someone " hey, have you ever tried just not being clinically depressed?" A rapist has something fucked up in their brain. we all know that rape is an unfortunate reality and you have to be a fucked up individual to rape someone. This product doesn't perpetuate victim blaming, it ensures safety. If i carry around a gun for protection, that doesn't mean I'm justifying being robbed, it means that if the unfortunate situation does arise, then I will be prepared.

[–]1MajorMid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Saw this shit on facebook and came here to post this.

Women neeeeeed to be a victim.

BRB guys I'm going to go to Compton and sit in the hood with a briefcase full of money. Don't tell me what I'm doing is a bad idea. Tell them not to rob me.

[–]Bobbagwell1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am still upset someone spilled the beans about our meetings. You know the meetings where we are taught to rape. We should castrate the one who couldn't keep his mouth shut.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its a little ridiculous how much people think that sort of rape is happening. 9/10 times its someone you know well, not someone who you meet in a club. While you could use the nail polish, it seems like a hassle. Teaching consent to groups of boys isn't going to work because most of them aren't going to rape anybody. Its the people on the outskirts of society that probably will and we have to work on bringing them in and getting them functional in our society :)

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

As a man against rape, I would agree to varnish my middle finger and put it in her drink for her.

[–]TRPviewer8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would you bother trying to protect people who won't do the slightest thing to protect themselves?

[–]TheRealMewt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But ScorchZang is doing this to protect himself.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure that was a joke- like giving the chicks the finger. A bit subtle but still...

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan-5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd put the varnish on my dick and stick it in her drink to stir it to show it dont have no roofies in it.

[–]widec0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her solution? "Talk to young boys and men, have conversations around consent and teach them not to rape in the first place."

It's a ridiculous argument, it's like saying we should teach people to stop stealing. No matter what you do, there's going to be some bad apples in the world that will commit these crimes. It's upon us to try to minimize our risks and stay safe.

[–]StillRedder0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What these people are saying (there are beta boys also talking about this) is that women want to roam the world oblivious of its dangers, not exerting themselves to be aware of their actions and surroundings.

Its like saying that women should be able to walk in the middle of the street and have all the cars drive around them, almost as though they want to get hit by cars. They constantly shame and condemn the drivers. Or, yell to the wind about how drivers need to be taught not to hit people walking right in front of them. All the while STILL walking in the street.

[–]cewubaaca0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

To quote JohnTheOther,

"Teach blacks not to steal,

teach Jews not to cheat,

teach men not to rape."

[–]busior0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait wouldn't dipping your nails in drinks look precisely like spiking drinks from a distance of over 1.5 meter ?

[–]phomaniac0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

AKA: Nail varnish isn't going to do anything, because my drink doesn't really have drugs in it. I just don't know my limits.... Just this girl. The rest totally are getting drugged.......

[–]loghead110 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The whole thing is a great big joke. The guys were trying to win a science prize all along and who can beat something that prevents rape. I have a nasty feeling that it probably doesn't work that well.

[–]__var-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, it will probably have a big disclaimer like, "for entertainment purposes only".

[–]loghead11-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen a lot of stuff made by undergrads and sometimes it is amazing, but it's never near a complete product.

'While the nail polish is still in the early, experimental stages, the team of North Carolina State University students who created Undercover Colors have already raised $100,000 for product development and are still searching for additional investors.'

http://www.cnet.com/news/this-nail-polish-may-detect-date-rape-drugs/

My feeling is that really what they have come up with is a few commercial indicators mixed in with nail polish. I also feel that even if they get the color change to occur, then it will likely be too expensive or dangerous to put into distribution. I hope they prove me wrong.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man. It's hard out there for a rapist.

[–]Almost_legit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We teach people that murder, stealing, cheating and lying is bad too. Women to two of those things on a constant basis. Nice logic, stupid whore

[–]j-pHil0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its like feminist dont want to be empowered, they just want everyone to be powerless.

[–]MyForkRN0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude... I'm a chick and I think this bitch is fucking retarded.

Clearly someone never taught her about how charismatic Ted Bundy was.

Also- I agree with a lot of the shit y'all say. My SO is all man and it's extremely sexy knowing I snagged an alpha (although I don't win many arguments, hah)

[–]masturbator90000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd be all for it. In exchange for mandatory courses for all women on how to not be a slut, how riding the cock carousel disqualifies you as wife material and how to take responsibilities for your own actions.

[–]zephyrprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The truth of the matter is, the whole rape issue as promulgated by feminists is just another way to betaize men. Once you think about the issue from this perspective, you will see why this girl's statements make sense. It's a horrific situation though - the girl is speaking from the perspective of truth from a corrupted person. The Stem guys are acting from the perspective of naive innocence.

[–]Cern_Stormrunner-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

wait, if i'm not supposed to rape any women, how am i going to exert my privilege?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Rape stems from a power complex. It's nothing about sexual gratification, it's about dominating someone completely. That's pretty fucking ignorant to say that all men have the possibility to have this complex and we need to be "taught" otherwise.

[–]AndrewAtrus-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't engage third-wave feminists on "rape".

[–]RPthrowaway123-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit. What a moron.

Everyone is responsible for themselves. There will always be assholes who try to take advantage of other people, its the same reason communism will never work in reality. The fact of the matter is that there will always be bad guys and always be victims - you can't make that go away. Therefore it is a potential victims responsibility to MAKE SURE they aren't being victimised.

Its the same reason I make good investments, for example. I can't say "they should teach banks not to rip me off!" Instead, I protect myself from the bad ones. In the same way, she should be putting more effort into protecting herself rather than trying to change millions upon millions of men in a way that would be inevitably for the worse.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The good news is that the comments at the end are all negative towards the author. Well done.

[–]rockmasterflex-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What i want to know is how bitches plan on apologizing to me for insulting me by assuming i am a rapist.

Seriously, you know the potential to be offended by a pitch checking a drink you got her is there. I mean, I would understand, but at the same time, cmon. How u gonna judge a brotha like that.

[–]Lipophobicity-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"We’re perpetuating the myth that navigating possible rape is a woman’s responsibility." Her solution? "Talk to young boys and men, have conversations around consent and teach them not to rape in the first place."

I'm white and from Chicago, and there are massive sections of my city that I know not to go into at night (or during the day if avoidable). Should I be able to walk around south east Chicago at 3am in a white robe without fear of being shot? Of course, just like in an ideal world a girl could pass out naked at a frat party and have nothing to worry about. The thing is the world is not ideal and some common sense needs to be used to navigate it as it is.

[–]ThrowingAwayJehovah-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess we can all wear the nail polish to make sure we bought the right stuff? /s

[–]proudcunt-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is funny because a well know tumblr and twitter feminist just had an article talking about feminism is more about intent than action (to justify hypocritical feminists). So, the intent of these men is completely irrelevant. Lol.

[–]1cover20-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, if they don't want to know if they're being drugged, that's pretty telling. It seems they don't really mind being drugged, more like "it's the principle of the thing."

But what is that principle? I have no idea. Is it the principle that if they regret it afterwards it's rape, and if not then it isn't?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like to replace rape with theft and women with stores whenever these stories come up e.g. "we shouldn't be teaching women not to get raped; we should be teaching boys not to rape." becomes "we shouldn't be teaching stores to install security; we should be teaching thieves not to steal."

This hamster writing for The Telegraph isn't impressed, calling the inventors "ill-informed and misguided." Why? In her words, the product "sends out a disturbing message", "implies that it’s a stores prerogative to avoid being stolen from" and "smacks of victim blaming." She goes on to suggest that a store has no responsibility to protect itself: "We’re perpetuating the myth that navigating possible theft is a store’s responsibility."

Sounds completely crazy now doesn't it?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that if telling a rapist "hey, don't rape women or you're a piece of shit" was the solution, then rape would never occur anymore because it's all ready pretty far socially engrained in western culture. Rape is a horrible fucked up act, we all understand that.

The rapists however, are fucked up and mentally ill. They know it's wrong but they keep doing it, similar to a sociopathic mass murderer. Know why weapons exist? (other than for hunting) Because people like this exist in our world, and we would really regret not having a weapon around if mr. rapist homicidal psychopath decides to pay you and/or your loved ones a visit.

Then here's a team of scientists making progressive moves, recognizing that date rape in the bar/club scene is a problem and making proactive moves toward prevention of such an awful crime. Hamster gets all pissy. There is just no appeasing people like this.

Somebody get this bitch a one way ticket to her egalitarian feminist utopia.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Google "Anti-rape nail polish"and look at the articles that pop up.

It's ... strangely in line with TRP thinking. Any male or group of males who devote a few years to helping women appears to women as beta, and therefore has to be scorned. Sell women some skimpy clothes, they praise your brand (as long as you make hippo sized clothing too). Sell women a cheap way to protect herself against roofies, you're a creeper who needs to be educated.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rapists are predatory people who will rape regardless of how many brochures they are forced to read. The guys who read and listen to those brochures are already the guys who rightly think rape is a disgusting thing to do and would never do it. These people have this strange idea that if you just sit a person who likes to rape down and explain to them the error of their ways they will have an epiphany and stop. Sure maybe a handful of them will, but the majority will not and attacking people who come up with a solution to the majority who will continue is pathetic and frankly extremely dangerous.

People who use date rape drugs know that rape is bad, but they will do it anyway.

[–]awesomesalsa-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought the Telegraph was respectable

[–]C_D_O-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My brother worked on hospital security for 10 years. Apparently its quite common for a group of girls or the boyfriend (or beta orbiter as it were) to bring in a near paralytic girl in a bout of drama fit for a soap opera claiming she had been roofied.

Nurses having seen this a million times before roll their eyes and tell them to calm their shit, they clean the girl up, rehydrate her etc. Without fail, there would be no rohypnol or similar analogs in their blood, just a hideous amount of alcohol. Girl would leave the ward next morning feeling sheepish.

Interestingly one of those tales became experience of my own by way of association, had a female friend looking for attention claim she was roofied, complete with tale of there was some creepy guy trying to get at her all night. I immediately thought it was bullshit, didn't take the bait and just sent the simplest of texts back "lmao" and sure enough I found out later on from a nurse I knew that she had in fact come into the hospital, and nothing was wrong with her other than a relatively high BAC.

[–]metaliturtle-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What if teaching boys about rape leads to more rape just like DARE teaching kids about drugs led to an increase in drug use?

[–]1independentmale[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I went through the DARE program as a kid and bought into that shit hook, line and sinker.

As an adult, I've tried shrooms and weed and I have to say that I'm terribly disappointed in my government for lying through their teeth about a relatively harmless substance. Scaring me as a young boy certainly didn't win them any brownie points now that I'm older and know better.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

implies that it’s a woman’s prerogative to avoid being raped

This implies that the person who said this doesn't understand what the word prerogative means. It is that persons' prerogative to use a dictionary and learn what i means.

[–]nrjk-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ten bucks says that if a female were to develop this particular nail polish it would be the talk of the feminist town.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't women already teach men not to rape? If not, those "please... oh god no... please stop" were highly misleading.

[–]ArcadesRed-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her argument is that the entire world, full of predators, from a race of predators, needs to change and not the individual. Is this why rape affects some so badly? If I was raped by a guy tonight, I would identify what lead to the rape, then stop it from happening again. Then go about tracking the guy down and kill him. Is rape so overwhelming to some because it shatters a world view? I am being serious not sarcastic. I don't even know how any adult can hold a world view this self centered.

[–]deadgod1-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For the love of god, END THE RAPE

Sorry guys, rape is my trigger

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Trigger this: Define "Rape."

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well we need to sit people down and tell them not to rob, assault, and kill others so we can go walking around certain parts of Chicago flashing $100 bills to everyone we meet. No need to protect yourself or avoid risky behavior, everyone should simply not fuck with you. Its the same thinking that people have who want to ban firearms, trust the police to be there for you, and people won't hurt you.

Naïve at best, delusional and dangerous to themselves is what most of them are.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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