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Hamster's wheel spins but, as usual, goes no where.

December 6, 2013
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http://elitedaily.com/dating/sex/call-slut-read/

Haven't felt any serious emotional triggers reading an article online in a long time. Until this one.

If you're new to TRP, this may be one of the most easily digestible pieces of hamstering you'll get to analyse before tackling some of the more complex and deeply-rooted social aspects of current society.

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Title Hamster's wheel spins but, as usual, goes no where.
Author DeckofLuckyStrikes
Upvotes 10
Comments 15
Date December 6, 2013 5:04 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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[–]themoor 9 points9 points [recovered] | Copy Link

As someone who never intended to get married, god I love sluts.

(1) Sluts are easy targets. When you see a good looking slut and she's into you, it often means a fun night in the sack. Awesome.

(2) Sluts lower the bar for all women. They make casual sex easier and if you get a date with a non-slutty woman and you are a quality guy, she knows that if she doesn't sleep with you soon it is easier for you to find someone who will. Win

(3) Because general sluttiness lowers the bar for all women, that means a quality woman will want to separate herself from the pack and not cock-hop recklessly. So this makes them easier to identify too.

(4) Finally, if you are a rake and learn to hone in on sluts successfully, it improves your seduction skills with women generally.

Sluts... god love 'em!!

[–]ilovemyself1010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The art of seduction, brilliant book. Tho I do find I identify with the rake more than others, I'm guessing you are too seeing as you mentioned it

[–]phaseonx1115 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I almost rolled on the floor laughing after reading this.

I judge people by their actions, not by what they say. The notion that a girl has intercourse with a ton of guys because she is "misunderstood" and trying to find "the one" is bullshit.

Any way you try to justify or rationalize behavior, slutting is still slutting.

Some gems:

"But the misunderstood girl does. She isn’t sleeping around to have a meaningless one-night stand. She is searching for passion and connection; someone to make her feel loved and recognize her own beauty. It is a desperate search to feel wanted and desired. It actually has nothing to do with the sex. "

"Acting slutty is different from being a slut." No, no it's not. That's the whole point.

[–]Hidrosiss17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it dresses like a slut, acts like a slut and sounds like a slut..... it's a misunderstood woman /s

[–]1thedangerboy4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She isn’t sleeping around to have a meaningless one-night stand. She is searching for passion and connection; someone to make her feel loved and recognize her own beauty.

Yes, she may be searching for someone, but in the time between now and meeting him, she is sleeping around and having meaningless one night stands.

It is a desperate search to feel wanted and desired.

Welcome to the human race. A collection of social beings who want to belong to a group of others just like them.

It actually has nothing to do with the sex.

Then why use sex as a past time? Why not knit a sweater, build an app, or restore a classic automobile?

Maybe all she is hoping for is someone to call her the following week and to ask her on a date.

And using sex after an initial physical introduction is the only way she can do this?

Someone who has the decency to respect her as a person and prove to her that she is worth getting to know.

If you can't stop yourself from doing something that makes you feel worse over time, why should anyone waste their time on you?

I am not saying it is a guy’s responsibility to show her that, because I am a firm believer that you cannot love someone else until you love yourself.

You have spent much of the article postulating the opposite. This is the kind of statement someone makes when they want to put for one side of an argument but can't get themselves to believe it, so they offer themselves an escape phrase or paragraph.

What I am saying, is the next time you are about to label a girl a “slut,” just think before you speak.

So sleep with her because it makes you both feel good, but don't call her on her actions because we don't want to be held responsible for the consequences.

And you don’t know why she is continuing to recklessly sleep around… but maybe if you felt the way she felt about herself for one minute, you would understand and refrain from sticking that label on her

Projection much?

I am by no means defending girls who sleep around

Yes you are.

But regardless, no one deserves to be labeled negatively.

Don't call rapists or murders those names, it might hurt their feels.

The author:

Hall is a third year communications major and psychology minor at Northeastern University.

Let me guess, career goals may include: HR, PR, or marketing.

[–]RPW MODLifterofThings5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I got two paragraphs in. Yawn.

You don't get to decide how people approach you, or how they perceive you. All you can do is be your best you, and react. Walk away. Problem solved. Enough of the hand-wringing, ffs.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For example, if a guy tells his friends that a girl is a “slut,” then his friends are going to make assumptions about her. Assumptions, such as, she is easy and has low self-respect, meaning she won’t be hard to get into bed, etc. Those assumptions will cause those guys to approach her differently than, say, a girl who has a better reputation.

Translation: I want the hard-earned reputation of a good girl without any of the work. Let me indulge in poor behaviour with no consequences!

Hah, not likely.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"the misunderstood girl does. She isn’t sleeping around to have a meaningless one-night stand. She is searching for passion and connection; someone to make her feel loved and recognize her own beauty. It is a desperate search to feel wanted and desired. It actually has nothing to do with the sex.

. . .

Alivia Hall is a third year communications major and psychology minor at Northeastern University."

Sounds like the author got called a slut by someone for sleeping around excessively and is trying to say it is not about the sex.

[–]that_new_new3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus. Women: if you're trying to find 'the one' and sleeping around a lot isn't helping you achieve that, maybe it's time to try something different, like not sleeping around.

[–]Manuel_S6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is some wisdom here, by accident though.

When talking to children, never say "you're bad" or "you are stupid" but "you acted like a bad person" or "that was the act of a stupid person". Make it clear you do not think they are that, but whether they want to be seen and treated like that (including punishment).

This is really important in their head - if the dominant person in their life tells them they are bad too many times, their personality will shift in that direction.

But of course, one can also apply this to women.

[–]HeadingRed0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed- women don't focus on the act but the motive. You did this because you have bad motives. They do this because they have positive motives.

Man- That was not smart, you were not thinking here.

Woman- That was bad because you have bad intentions.

I remember one day we were leaving the house and I was carrying a lot of stuff. I dropped a pretty heavy tool on my foot and it hurt. She got pissed and in her anger dropped this nugget "that happened because you don't care how late we are"

Classic example of how your actions will be judged. Not by what you did, but by when she thinks it the why.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Might not be a very RP opinion and yes, there is hamstering going on, but i actually understand some of where she is coming from and there is a small kernel of truth in amongst.

My issue is that she is taking the issue on one dimensionally.

I have been in the mindset she talks about, needing sex from strangers to validate my listing self esteem and make me feel worth something. Back during the days when my MR feelings had hand over my RP ones. It is a destructive mindset, both for men and women for different reasons. It cost me a unicorn, it costs women their reps and any chance of respect from a quality man.

What she says is fundamentally correct, people, men and women often become "sluts" which is precisely what i was, penis or not, because they are damaged goods. And further direct shaming does not help in that regard.

But by the same token acting like that behaviour is A-OK and shaming others for not accepting that lifestyle, validating it, giving these girls beta bucks once they've gotten off the carousel, that doesnt work either.

The correct middle way is simple, let sluts decide their own fate and pay for their own consequences. Dont want to date them, dont. I didnt really read anything into this article that suggests you must do anything more than hold your tongue. Just dont denigrate them further. Its like kicking the kid in a wheelchair. Doesnt really look good on either of you.

I pay for my actions every time i think about the rock bottom i hit, and that spurs me on to never repeat it, to keep myself moving forward.

[–]still_very_alive0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The correct middle way is simple, let sluts decide their own fate and pay for their own consequences. Dont want to date them, dont. I didnt really read anything into this article that suggests you must do anything more than hold your tongue. Just dont denigrate them further. Its like kicking the kid in a wheelchair. Doesnt really look good on either of you.

Agreed. That's the one point in the article I liked - she admitted it wasn't anyone's responsibility but the women themselves, and she didn't try to shame men into marrying sluts or shit like that, contrary to what some feminists have to say on the topic.

[–]DeckofLuckyStrikes[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, actually she did. She's saying that the misunderstood girls can only be discovered if you look past her behavior. Odd, isn't it? It's implied that a man's responsibility is to look beyond a woman's actions to get to know her better (just because she acts like a slut, doesn't mean she's a slut AKA get to know the girls who put out because most of them are misunderstood AKA these bitches are broken and need a man to validate and fix that shit AKA BETA BUCKS ALPHA FUCKS

[–]still_very_alive0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm didn't consider that angle. Then again, she did explicitly say no one was obliged to do so - she may be encouraging beta behaviour, but she steers clear of shaming people for not doing so - honestly, by now, that's good enough for me.

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