Have you read the new Ontario Sex Ed curriculum? It discusses anal sex with 12-year-olds

vandaalen · 2015-02-25T11:38:12+00:00

Just like in 1984, kids will be the most powerful surveillance tool of the government.

An Iranian friend told me, that after the islamic revolution, teachers would bring an opium-pipe to school, show it to the children and ask: "Who knows something similar like this from home?"

The parents of the children who affirmed, would get visited by the revolutionary guards very soon afterwards.

tyranus89 · 2015-02-25T04:38:06+00:00

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TheIronViking · 2015-02-25T06:03:04+00:00

So if you need to ask for consent at every stage, and sex begins with teasing and foreplay, do you need to ask permission to seduce a woman?

"M'lady, may I endeavor to seduce you?" tips fedora

R_E_D_1 · 2015-02-25T04:30:25+00:00

I can already see the 'Where Have All The Men Gone?' Huffpo headlines coming 20 years from now.

GayLubeOil · 2015-02-25T09:39:05+00:00

This is exactly the kind of shit that they pulled on my grandparents in Soviet Russia to brainwash them to be Good Communist Youth.

He who controls education controls the future.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T06:29:23+00:00

This was in undoubtly written by a 28 year old "gender studies" or sociology major from some shit liberal arts degree factory.

Give her ramblings the seal of approval from the almighty state, and there you have it: a new curriculum of bullshit and brainwashing.

TheRedderPill · 2015-02-25T03:03:17+00:00

When I was in 7th grade, you were a god amongst men if you felt a pair of boobs. Now they're shooting for fifth base?????

Chewie316 · 2015-02-25T13:02:31+00:00

Wow you are reaching pretty hard with your link titles.

And if studies are showing that kids are having anal sex at 14 when do you think they should teach them about it 17, 18 or 19 maybe?

David35207 · 2015-02-25T06:15:40+00:00

What a crock of shit. It's all "open-minded" until you hit the point where "gender based violence often refers to violence against women and girls." and then it doesn't say anything that women can be the violent party towards males.

tyranus89 · 2015-02-25T04:23:45+00:00

It seems like all of the quotes under the "Student:" sections are what the students are "supposed" to say.

And people say that schools don't try to brainwash kids.

I just read an introductory to reactionism that claims our society is Orwellian; I'd never considered that until then, and reading this has now confirmed it.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T07:35:15+00:00

Kids in 1st grade would be better off having 1984 pushed onto them to read rather than this garbage

rebuildingMyself · 2015-02-25T04:00:03+00:00

Jesus. That's some scary reprogramming.

TheRedderPill · 2015-02-25T03:00:58+00:00

OP, I nominate you to receive this months award in Red Pill Investigative Journalism.

The fact it's getting down voted so quick only means you struck a chord with our Smurf skinned friends

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T10:38:49+00:00

Academia is now officially aboard the cultural marxism bandwagon and there are no brakes! Bad title, cause this is far more important that just sexual overexposure of children.

If this goes on quietly for a couple of years, I urge you all to provoke the collapse of the western world. It might be the only way to save us, by burning this shit to the ground before it gets any more pussyfied. At least we will be kings of the ashes.

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SpongeCroft · 2015-02-25T07:07:43+00:00

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yummyluckycharms · 2015-02-25T07:35:04+00:00

Again, further evidence that Toronto is hell for men. The entire curriculum, especially in regards to consent and violence is geared towards, making men and even little boys, appear to be rapists.

That said, I dont think teaching children at age 12 about fudge packing is wrong, as there are tons of gays in ontario, and chances are the kids have 2 daddies already.

cuntbh · 2015-02-25T10:36:39+00:00

If you do not have sex, you do not have to worry about getting an STI.

Bullshit. Chlamydia can be transferred by skin contact with another person's genitalia- I was told this by a professional nurse, as well as seeing the front page post on /r/TIFU a while ago about a dude who got it from a stripper.

It would be nice if they didn't have complete bullshit in their curriculum.

singeblanc · 2015-02-25T12:08:57+00:00

We have basically the exact same thing right now in Germany. Difference is, ours is a guidebook and how much is actually implemented depends on schools & teachers, so it's non-obligatory.

The idea behind it is to educate children about stuff they're talking about, things they hear on tv, things they find on the internet. Most kids hear and use phrases like "deepthroat", "facial", "assrape", "buttplug", "bisexual", "gay faggot" etc. long before they understand them fully. This does only lead to sexual confusion, and some education about this will actually help them understand what's going on, not hurt.

As an example, keep in mind that people like "Conchita Wurst" have reached popstar-fame in Europe and are present within mainstream-media and on daytime-tv. So questions about transgender identity WILL arise and as in other education aspects, parents are often ill equipped to answer them.

Using "gay" as a swearword is obviously hurtful to gay kids - suicide rates amongst homosexual teenagers are much higher than amongst hetero teenagers. School will not stop kids from hurting each other, but it makes some sense to make them understand 1.) what the words mean they're using anyways and 2.) why this can be hurtful to some people.

And yeah, this is about teaching what is normal: But not in a normative way, as in: you're not normal if you don't do xyz; but in a permissive way: It's normal that anyone can do whatever he wants - anal, gay sex, BDSM etc., as long as two people consent in it. This is about not discriminating against those who have other sexual desires and fantasies than you have and about understanding what's going on in your neighborhood.

Compare it with religious education: Even if you don't want your kid to grow up as a Christian, it makes a lot of sense to have an institution (at best an unbiased one) teach your kids the contents of Christianity and the meaning of Christian symbols, as they are literally confronted with them everywhere, from video games over movies and mangas and the news up to politics and everyday life.

Edit: Clarity

thredditsowaway · 2015-02-25T13:16:29+00:00

You may be interested to know (unless you already do) that the premier of Ontario is a short-haired, openly lesbian woman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Wynne

I've only ever been there a few times, but Toronto is a hotbed of retarded feminist thinking. It makes Sweden look like a pretty normal place. This is another example of a total failure of democracy: just because (a very misled) 50% +1 of the population say they like it, the (sane) rest of the province is going to have to put up with it.

omarelbass · 2015-02-25T03:57:52+00:00

First of all, thank you so much OP for reading through and highlighting these important parts. Second of all, I think kids will grow up to be more mature and they won't feel as shy when learning about this as opposed to having to go ask friends to understand (which as well know can be misleading at first).

Hitlers_Boss · 2015-02-25T04:29:42+00:00

Holy crap you cant make this shit up. I guess we can thank the blessed third wave feminism for reminding men that we should commit sepuku on a daily basis or kneel at the feet of women for our "crimes."

mykonos_rm · 2015-02-25T04:31:29+00:00

I'm going to chuck this into my "fuck em" box.

Fuck em.

IllimitableMan · 2015-02-25T13:00:55+00:00

School is a bunch of brainwashing bullshit. If my kid brought this shit home I'd take them out of that school immediately. Home schooling, or get rich enough to go private, lest you sacrifice your child's mind to the SJW neoliberalist brainwashing hivemind.

Edit, relevant: http://therationalmale.com/2014/12/05/teach-your-children-well/

Murgie · 2015-02-26T20:29:21+00:00

First time poster here. Largely just looking around to determine how much of the stereotypical depiction of this sub elsewhere on Reddit is based in reality, how much is grossly exaggerated nonsense, and how much is outright bullshit.

I'm probably not aware of things which would go without saying to a regular, so try and go easy on me, mates.
I don't intend to do much more than ask some questions regarding the rational behind given stances, but you know, just point out if I do something wrong, eh?

Children are shown pictures of genitalia, this is first grade material.

Is this really a problem? I mean, I can understand objections to exposing a child of that age to examples of sex and sexuality which are intended to be erotic or whatever, but a medical cross section of reproductive organs doesn't seem to carry much in the way of implicit negatives, does it?
I mean, hell, they're going to have one of them attached to them anyway, eh? It's not really much of a secret to them.

Yes means yes.

Errr... Is this one, specifically the highlighted text, really something worth objecting to?

Like, I understand if it was only included to help illustrate the overall tone you're getting from the curriculum texts, sometimes I do the same thing when I'm trying to illustrate a point to someone. So if that's the case, just say the word and it's settled.

But if that's not the case, what kinds of potential scenarios and situations do you believe this concept comes into play?

Definition of "normal" is arbitrary & Introducing non-binary gender identity.

Is there really anything that's really untrue here, though?
At the end of the day, after all, the inevitable fact of the matter is that social and societal norms just aren't universal concepts. That's what makes different cultures and different time periods, well, different.

It's the reason why we don't hold ritualistic Ōllamaliztli games, sacrificing the losing team to Huitzilopochtli and adding their heads to the tzompantli rack beside the court.

Ask anyone on the street, and they'll tell you that's radically abnormal. With good reason, at that.

Ask someone in pre-Columbian Tenochtitlan, and they'll tell you the very opposite.

With that in mind, we can't really conclude that normal means the same thing to everyone, everywhere, all the time, can we?

Don't be ableist.

Eh, it's not really wrong here, either. I mean, you're just not going to see your average movie or sitcom or whatever start focusing on the intimate relationships of amputees, or paraplegics, or schizophrenics, or the deaf, etc.

They just would have been waaay farther ahead by explicitly stating that just because the love life of such individuals is not commonly portrayed in popular media, doesn't mean such individuals can't have a love life in reality.

That's ultimately what it's trying to convey, it'd just be a lot more effective and significantly less scattered if it went out and said it, instead of trying to ignore the fact that half the reason psychical and mental disabilities aren't the subject of popular entertainment is simply because nobody actively wants to be faced with those kinds of challenges during their leisure time.

Teaching non-binary gender identity & Talking about gays, lesbians and bisexuals.

Really just speaking out of pure curiosity here, but why did you specifically highlight "two-spirited" on this one?

I'm not sure if you're Canadian or how much you might know about Ontario's regional native tribes, but just to clarify; two-spirited is pretty much just the Aboriginal name for transgender.
They came up with it centuries ago, presumably because whatever biological predisposition or occurrence which leads to the feelings transgenders experience existed back then, and their societal take on religion lead them to believe the cause of it was two different spirits inhabiting the same body.

I know it certainly sounds a hell of a lot like a term for the whole "I have the spirit of an iguana and sexually identify as an attack helicopter" way of thinking, but it's pretty much just the Ontario government acknowledging the Aboriginal's culture in the public school system, because it's the public school system.

But hey, maybe you already knew all that, I don't know. I'm just making a guess based on what I thought it meant when I first heard the term.

Violence against boys does not exist.

Yeah, fuck, I personally take issue to that one, too.

It's not that they shouldn't have mentioned that females are more frequently targeted/affected by such, it's that they should have explicitly stated that it's ultimately still just as valid when a male is the target of such behavior.

Maybe even pointed out some of the issues which affect men differently, like the fact that law enforcement seem just as likely to laugh and hang up then they are to provide much in the way of assistance.

Another lesson about the anal sex, again 7th grade.

I don't have much in the way of questions on this one, either.

I'm pretty confident that I understand the reasons why some might object to it, I just don't particularly agree, feeling that any adherence to the rules which normally dictate socially acceptable conversation topics should be tossed out the window the moment they conflict with imparting knowledge of topics as important as disease vectors and the like.

Fuck knows what they were thinking when they decided to include the bracketed text, though.
It's not like using protection is a matter of probability or something, the kids know damn well whether or not they're using a condom, statistics be damned.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T08:05:07+00:00

By not educating our kids, we leave the state to "rescue" our "poor children."

jacks1000 · 2015-02-25T05:09:24+00:00

Generate outrage through social media to achieve change in society.

Whatever happened to "be the change you wish to see in the world?" Can't these leftist nutjobs be consistent?

Besides, why should "society" change because some Transgendered Otherkin of Color has their gender-non-specific underpants in a bunch due to "microaggressions" or whatever?

Subtletorious · 2015-02-25T05:02:29+00:00

You're spot-on with the SJW activism concerns. Since when did lobbying of media companies become part of sex Ed?

However, your concerns about anal sex are a tad paranoid. Butt sex happens. I would call a sex Ed curriculum that didn't mention it to be incomplete.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T05:30:03+00:00

We're just at the beginning of this feminist/sjw rabbit hole. believe that

rp_aware · 2015-02-25T16:04:59+00:00

Normalcy is just a set of definitions that we use to make sense of large groups. Same with stereotypes and archetypes. I think everyone knows deep down that stereotypes and normative categories capture truths in a fuzzy way. You can focus on the fuzziness, or you can focus on the utility.

The fight starts when you have a culture full of individualistic ingrates who don't look at society through a macro lens ... which is what we have. If you see yourself as a fierce individual and see every person you meet as a fierce individual, then "normal" is going to piss you off to no end. Stereotypes are going to piss you off. You will campaign against any way of thinking that is anti-individualistic.

At the end of the day, exceptions aside, humans are very fickle and conforming. In a word, herdlike. Normal will always exist, stereotypes will always have utility, and archetypes will be amply represented.

A quick word on archetypes: an archetype is an exaggerated form (like a Platonic form) that large numbers of people tend to be like: for example, the rebellious teenager who starts getting tattoos, weird hair, etc. You think 'so typical'. Typical = archetypal: in this case, the archetype of the rebellious teenager. The great irony is that the typical rebellious teenager is exactly the type who would think of themselves as fiercely individualistic.

The punch line: thinking of yourself as fiercely individualistic is highly typical and normal. Herd behavior.

Normative thinking is useful as fuck when analyzing groups of humans, so hang on to it. Quietly.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-02-25T12:59:11+00:00

Wasn't the feminist movement created to break up the nuclear family and get kids going to state run schools for proper brainwashing?

I heard that somewhere.

The_Turbinator · 2015-02-25T13:23:46+00:00

This is what happens when we vote in a fucking hardcore feminist woman for our Premiere.

If I ever do have kids the only province they will be doing any growing up in is Quebec.

Ausfall · 2015-02-25T13:47:01+00:00

It should be noted that this is only possible because Kathleen Wynne, the Premier of Ontario (think State Governor for you Americans), now has a majority government in the provincial legislature. The Liberal Party was able to push this through because other parties do not have enough seats to overturn their decisions. In essence it's a dictatorship unless the politicians vote against their own party (hint: they never do). She also never mentioned this overhaul of the education system during the election because the idea was torn to pieces during her previous government by the opposition to the point they had to withdraw the bill.

While I think kids should be armed with knowledge, there's a persistent trend in education in Canada to stamp an agenda onto kids. Instead of giving kids the tools they need to come up with their own conclusions and make their own decisions, they are told what to believe and leave school as a Progressive, Well-Rounded Member of Society ™

This kind of education teaches kids (especially male kids) that they are intolerant, racist, homophobic or oppressive. The sex education part says that trying to be a regular kid and trying to fit in means that they are somehow wrong. It's the next step of the "there are no losers" education, but in reality there aren't any losers because there aren't any winners either.

nzgs · 2015-02-25T14:29:42+00:00

Of all the things wrong with state schools, sex education is the last thing to worry about. I'd be far more concerned with the humanities being hijacked by cultural marxists.

curious97 · 2015-02-25T04:43:06+00:00

Question: How is the Catholic schoolboard reacting to this? Will they implement it? I am not familiar with that organization but if they're a neutered Catholic organization I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to "modernize" (puke)

I can't imagine what they will be teaching our children's children. Practical Sex Ed labs in grammar school? I bet it's coming some time or another.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T08:09:22+00:00

What does ISIL have to say about it: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/isis-burns-8000-rare-books-030900856.html

Cyralea · 2015-02-25T14:36:13+00:00

More evidence that Toronto is hell on earth. Feminazi programming like this doesn't even cause people to bat an eyelash here.

I think the greater message here is that for any aspiring parent to be heavily involved in their children's schooling, particularly once they get to this age. Questions like "What did you learn today?" would go far to giving you an angle to stamping out this kind of nonsense.

oldredder · 2015-02-25T03:08:07+00:00

Considering the number of guys here who for no reason I can fathom seek anal with their women - I am surprised you'd even complain.

No thanks for me. I know which holes are the right ones and that's not it

squirtmasterd · 2015-02-25T11:29:28+00:00

Sex education has proven to reduce teenage single mums. It's a different time and a different generation to be holding them to your antiquated standards. Red pill is for discussion on how best to navigate this new world.

SpongeCroft · 2015-02-25T11:33:40+00:00

Isn't there a South Park episode about this? Those sex ed teachers need to get laid...

elysius · 2015-02-25T13:08:23+00:00

If this kind of thing grinds your gears, look up the Dark Enlightenment and Neoreaction and join the fight.

TempusRerumImperator · 2015-02-25T14:41:16+00:00

"trusted adult" when they experience such situations, which most likely means teacher or the police).

I was born in a communist country where this tactic was VERY popular and happened a lot. It made everyone paranoid and scared of the state. They had a very long arm indeed.

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sevenStarsFall · 2015-02-25T18:50:04+00:00

A 12 year old girl who learns what anal is today is an 18 year old girl letting me plow her in the ass 6 years from now.

What's the beef?

ECoast_Man · 2015-02-26T03:18:24+00:00

Oh sweet Jesus.

I found the anal sex parts the least offensive of what you identified. This is just sick. The domestic violence one is shocking - why exactly must it add the point that 'it's primarily about women... Now give me examples'.

This was definitely written be a full team of rabid fucking feminists. Fucking Toronto - The Capital of Ontario and North American Feminism.

Cypher211 · 2015-02-25T11:43:11+00:00

This is a fucking horror show. I live in the UK but I guarantee it'll just be a matter of time before we start seeing this over here as well...

Kelly_Gruber · 2015-02-25T11:38:52+00:00

The is made by the same liberal party that had a high ranking member get charged as a pedophile. He was also in charge of overseeing this new curriculum.

Edit: strange be must be some pedophiles in here since I'm getting downvoted for speaking the truth

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-02-25T14:48:02+00:00

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[deleted] · 2015-02-26T05:33:46+00:00

there's no need for third graders (8 year olds) to know about homosexuality and transgenderism, save that for middle school.

[deleted] · 2015-02-26T23:34:46+00:00

I hated heath class in school because it was always the same shit and always took time away from gym class. I feel sorry for these poor kids.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-02-25T20:12:21+00:00

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Numeromancer · 2015-02-25T13:25:01+00:00

School is all about the 4 Rs: Readin' , 'Ritin', 'Rithmatic, and Rectal-tears.

LaV-Man · 2015-02-25T14:49:10+00:00

Heard it somewhere else but found it really interesting. If a drunk girl cannot give consent, why can I be convicted of a crime while I am drunk? Am I able to make rational decisions while intoxicated and therefore responsible (legally) for them? Then why is she not? Just pointing out the hypocrisy/double standard.

swordfish1985 · 2015-02-25T15:29:24+00:00

This is bad, they imprinting feminism propaganda right from childhood so that kids believe them as facts and cannot question it when grown.

rp_aware · 2015-02-25T16:16:39+00:00

This gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVHYvUpeqKI

Sesa_Refum · 2015-02-25T17:54:34+00:00

Fucking degeneracy. All I can say on this.

SgtBrutalisk · 2015-02-25T14:50:03+00:00

Do you not want kids to be sex-educated? Why is getting shown pictures of penises and getting talking to's of sex bad?

Sorry this isn't abstinence only, OP. You seem like an enraged soccermom with this post. "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"

BuckStricklandx · 2015-02-26T05:36:20+00:00

Kids should never have to read the phrase "sexual being" in a health class lol

Requi3m · 2015-02-25T20:59:35+00:00

Children are shown pictures of genitalia, this is first grade material.

Oh no we wouldn't want children seeing a part of the human body! Don't be such a prude.

And finally, so you don't think I was trolling you in the title

Well thanks for confirming you were trolling us. We wouldn't want middle schoolers to hear the word "anal" which I'm sure they've never heard before.

A lot of what you highlighted is feminist bullshit but some of it isn't.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T10:52:16+00:00

If you put your children in school you are unfit to be a parent.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T04:08:15+00:00

Honestly everyone should learn sex-ed before they are 12.

Should be working by 14 and around 16 starting a family.

People don't get smarter after 14, they just learn how stupid they are.

MadBum · 2015-02-25T17:40:17+00:00

Hahaha really fun to watch you go from

Whole new generation of boys and girls will be taught material that was up until yesterday reserved for shock sites.

to

Just like in 1984, kids will be the most powerful surveillance tool of the government.

Everyone who subscribes to the kind of shit you guys on this sub do must be pretty stupid, but I can't imagine they're all as stupid as you.

Title	Have you read the new Ontario Sex Ed curriculum? It discusses anal sex with 12-year-olds
Author	SgtBrutalisk
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Date	February 25, 2015 2:48 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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