"Hi, Can I practice flirting with you for 10 minutes? I'm following this online guide on how to pick up chicks."

September 21, 2018

Hi, I'd like to begin by saying I wasn't always the handsome sex-god you see before you.

I know... I know... As hard as it may be to believe, there was a time when I too was quite the Nice Guy. (<<< I'm told this is the standard way to open a guide on game.) In recent weeks discussions of game on TRP/askTRP where people asked "what do I say here" somewhat reminded me of the Nice Guy part of my life and I'd like to share some wisdom I gained which helped me escape that, for the benefit of men here, who are still wasting their time thinking rather than acting on the answer they already have.

Why the title?

The title of this post is a line that helped me understand the difference between these two states, and helped me stop searching for what to say. I said it while opening conversation with the hottest girl I could find in a large cafe, at the beginning of my RP journey. At the time, I was not fit nor muscular. Not handsome. Certainly not rich. But that day, I got my first genuinely cute girlfriend. And it seemed I could do no wrong. I have only gotten better in the years since, getting dozens of different women in 11 countries until my current gf today. I've said things that led to success that in mixed company might be considered really outrageous ("That bikini looks distractingly delicate. Can I pull on it?" and then she said yes, and I pulled on it, and it opened, and she laughed.) or really needy and tame ("I like you. I also need money for food. Please date me.").

The Meaning of Inner Game

To be clear, I don't want you to copy the line in the title. There is nothing magical about it. Its only the mindset behind it that is rare.

Let me ask you… if I subtracted all of your fears, (of rejection, failure and success alike)… what would you say to women?

The truth perhaps? Whatever you would say, congratulations, you are saying it in the mindset of a high status man. One not encumbered with a lifetime of anxiety and feelings of worthlessness that naturally accompanies being a bottom 80% man... at the bottom of the... dare I say... dominance hierarchy (don't ban me pls redpillschool). I imagine you would finally tell women and the world what you're really thinking.

The meaning of Inner Game is displaying your intentions, desires, interests, thoughts, and feelings without fear, and staying true to them no matter what (this second part is how I came to understand frame control). Remember this great way to visualize this: If you minus your fears and assume that women are not playing games, and that they will do all the ungodly things you want them to... if you assume you are a high status man with nothing to fear... and that nothing you say could be awkward or stupid... what would you say?

[This post was inspired by an answer I wrote on this thread where the OP debated the merits and demerits of conveying interest to a woman directly or indirectly]

Direct and Indirect isn't the differentiator for success, both can work. The real differentiator is...

Being true to your intentions. Fearlessly congruent.

If you truly in that present moment just want to tear her clothes off and have sex with HER right then, and you honestly can't contain yourself, then yeah, sure, ask her to have sex with you. And watch how it flows out when its honest, it'll just feel right. And from her end, it is always going to be very attractive. She might say yes, or no. But staying honest and saying what you're REALLY thinking is going to be attractive. The reasoning is that not only are you a seriously impressive dude for having the guts to put your balls on the chopping block, but the way you will do it when you've stopped thinking and just started honestly acting on your inner being, is just infectious. Its going to be new, exciting, fun and just something she wants to be a part of.

She might still say no, to be sure. But in my experience, 9 out of 10 women will still revel in the attention of such a man. They will keep that conversation going as long as they can. They will laugh, blush, feign shock and outrage but will always remain intensely engaged with the idea of talking to you.

Of course, you will still not eliminate rejection from your life in doing this...

Even still...

This is still the superior way to act. Why?

  • 1) It prevents wasting time.
  • 2) When you're acting according to your true intentions in that very second, you are always going to have fun, by definition.
  • 3) All women are attracted to this sort of behaviour. They may not always rationally like what you've just said or done but you can tell via tone of voice, body language, expressions, that she's intrigued and attracted.
  • 4) It prevents her manipulating you.
  • 5) It automatically passes you in all congruence tests.

Number 4 is the true game-changer though.

Inner Game prevents you from being manipulated

When I approach women while fearlessly displaying my intentions clearly and honestly, it prevents anyway for her to manipulate me. How? Manipulation is a two-way street. When I try to be a gentleman and become friends with her first before stating my interest, or even if I'm more forward than that, and say to her "Can I buy you a drink?" I am creating a covert contract of sorts. I don't want to buy her a drink. I don't want to be her friend. I actually want to talk and flirt with her, I'm just hoping to manipulate her chance of reciprocating by the promise of a drink or first maintaining a long friendship. Women are masters of manipulation and usually subconsciously, they realize what you're doing and use it as leverage over you. They realize that they're in control. And they use it to waste your time and shit-test you because they know that you're invested in them staying around.

So, instead of saying "Can I buy you a drink?", follow your intention, whatever it is. This is something only you can tell, and it requires present moment awareness. Lets say, my intention is to practice my approach game. In this case, I would literally go up to her and say "Hi, can I practice flirting with you for 10 seconds? I'm following this guide online on how to pick up chicks."

It will work. Trust me. As long as you're true to and self-assured of your intentions, your behaviour will be attractive no matter what you say. And there is no way she can manipulate you based off of that. Its just so straight-forward. No wiggle room for her to operate. You will get what you're truly seeking or you won't.

What they mean when they say Rejection is a Good Thing

Even if you don't get what you want... even in that case, why worry? What's the worst she could say? "No"? So what. You saved your time from someone who was never going to fulfill your intentions anyway and you had fun. On to the next item in your intentions. If I'm really rooted in present moment awareness, I might perceive I want to keep playing. So I might say, "OK, so its a no. But can I practice my negotiation tactics with you instead?".

I realize many of you even reading that line will experience fear of awkwardness: "this will never work" "it needs to be more clever" "it needs to be less clever" "women have blown me off for much less". You have not yet seen the world from the eyes of a man with frame. Nothing will redpill you more than the night and day difference in how women behave in front of a dominant man they like vs someone else.

Most of the time, you'll get intense engagement with the woman you connect with, both while you're there and promises to meet up in future (which they actually look forward to and are much easier to arrange because you never think "Must wait 3.4584 days to call her. Must write 0.45x the number of words as she does and 0.33x the number of "I love you's". Instead, you are always acting and speaking according to what you want. You don't even consider whether your formulas are OK or not.) In my experience, even women who aren't interested in sex or dating, even they'll still go along with you because your behaviour is so fun. In which case, just enjoy the present moment.

If she's the type who's persistently bitchy (which can happen), that behaviour will just naturally put you off (if it doesn't, your self-respect is a bigger problem), and following your intentions will lead you to next her like you wouldn't believe (like you're a millionaire rapper or something. It just flows out when you're genuinely not interested anymore)... rather than the teary breakups us Nice Guys are used to. "Onto other better, more promising prospects", you'll instead think.

What's more, you will never feel bad about her turning away because when a woman turns your true intentions down rather than wastes your underground tunnel-like efforts on manipulation, there will be no resentment. You will know that you weren't compatible on a deep level and it will genuinely be a mutual and amicable parting. It never feels like regret. Nor does it feel like rejection. Its a genuinely satisfied feeling, of you having fulfilled your intentions. And over time, as you expose more and more of your repressed feelings, desires, thoughts, interests, behaviours to the light of day... you'll naturally learn more about yourself and how to best make yourself happy. And find women who fit best with that.

As you make acting according to your god-given male sexual instincts a habit, you'll find yourself connecting with women you didn't even realize you were flirting with. There are more hot women in your city than you know what to do with.

Naturally strong frame

I almost forgot to mention, being fearlessly true to your intentions automatically passes you in the most common form of shit-tests a woman will give a man approaching her; the congruence test. Since you're already acting according to your intentions, and have already overcome your fear in order to do so, that's easy. You are already congruent.

Men who are fearful often fall into women's frame because they have no frame of their own. There is no real meaning or substance in their words as they're often just saying what might get them laid. So its easy to distract them. High value men's words are genuinely rooted in their intentions, which they're invested in, they naturally won't get distracted.

Why does this work?

Just like a woman naturally grows an attractive body and naturally knows girl game, you also know male game. Right now, this very minute. You don't need to learn someone else's routine. Just unleash what instincts you already have. Your instincts know how to flirt better than your rational, egoic mind. Though I've phrased it as "say your intentions honestly", I do think that is just a gateway to learning to unleash your naturally attractive masculine sexual behaviour and impulses over time. Why doesn't this happen more often? It does. A lot of the times you clicked with women, this was happening. Your healthy male sexuality. For most of us, fear and socialization creates a huge ego and prevents it. For me personally, fear from a life-time of bullying and other family troubles removed any confidence to assert my real desires.

I also don't think male sexual behaviour is encouraged in civilized society in the same way as low-risk female sexual behaviour. But trust me, you were born with those instincts just like women were. It's just that not every man can actually act on those high-risk instincts. Fear inhibits vulnerable behaviour. There may be evolutionary reasons, I don't really know.

As Mark Manson wrote in his book 'Models' (paraphrased) women can smell your intentions. As long as your intentions are alright, the rest will follow, including the honest vulnerability that women find attractive.


Do pay attention to the things that create your fearful behavours, which is wrong assumptions and terribly negative self-talk. Just stop self-talk altogether if possible. Don't think about past or future, only present. Do not assume women are playing games. Don't assume women will say no. The key is present moment awareness, and just observing what you want to do and naturally allowing yourself to do it. Don't think about whether something is weak or OK or not. Get to making mistakes. You will hone that over time. Its very important to start.

One key thing to stop doing is to analyze women's words. Fearful men only react to interest women show, rather than act on their own interest. In order to judge if a woman's interested or not, they constantly try to rationally analyse or see meaning in women's words. There is none. For her, words are a fluid trap. The same set of words can be turned into an innuendo by a high-status man and she'll go along with it, (in the comments I told the story of a woman who called me "like her big brother". I used this to kiss her on the cheeks. Later on, she went along with it, and had me pick her up and "take her home") OR turned into a clear display of disinterest to a Nice Guy, and she'll be astonished he didn't get the hint. (speaking generally ofc)

Further reading

Acting is always better than reading, but if you want, here are some recommendations. What I learned is all from men greater than me.

The Book of Pook (Pook is a great example of a guy who unleashed game from within, i.e. game he already knew. In the book, Pook claims to help you unleash a "Promethean fire inside you" which greatly resonated with me)

The Power of Now (this book is about present moment awareness. it's message of letting go of ego greatly strengthened my frame, This book is truly a key in making this practically happen in the real world. It helped me understand my inner state, as well as manage my fears)

One Key Step to Not Giving a Fuck (My favourite TRP sidebar post, all about letting go of ego, which is the source of fear)

How to get laid like a warlord (The all-time top TRP post. Very Good and somewhat similar concept, though wildly different approach. I also agree that tests are good for you, but I don't think you especially need to work hard to pass them. A good response to a shit-test is to dismiss her authority to test you in the first place which comes naturally when you're not fearful.)

No More Mr Nice Guy (all about unlearning Nice Guy tendencies, which is basically just repressing your desires and creating covert contracts)

Starting Strength (There is no alternative to lifting. Lifting somehow naturally unleashes your natural male behaviours. It moulds your attitude into fearless behaviours very effectively)

Mind Illuminated: A Complete Meditation Guide (meditation helps. A year-long practice will do wonders for your sense of peace, happiness and ability to remain a master of your reactions.)

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Date September 21, 2018 9:21 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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Are you seriously promoting drugs in TRP? We talk about building yourself and you are talking about Crutches.

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Don't do drugs, kids.

I'm glad people got a glimpse of being able to express themselves without their inhibitions, but you don't need MDMA, alcohol or drugs to do it. Drugs are a crutch. There is such a thing being in the zone, but you can achieve mental lucidity naturally. And it will be a far more sustainable and healthier than drugs. I will do a post on this later. Until then, don't be an idiot.

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I'm glad people got a glimpse of being able to express themselves without their inhibitions, but you don't NEED drugs to do it. They are a crutch."

Agree with the first part. I'm not advocating MDMA as a long-term solution, but the reference points it created in my psyche were absolutely invaluable to me. When used judiciously, there's absolutely some value. So as far as them being a crutch, there's a little more ambiguity than that. There was an article I read a while back was titled, "How Green Tea Made Me Superhuman" I think. Some substances when formed into habits are very beneficial. MDMA is not one of those. It's chemistry in relation to humans makes it so that anything more than extremely occasional use is going to not benefit you. On top of that, getting pure MDMA is hard, as a lot of it is cut with speedier stuff.

Some drugs have their place as *temporary* reference points for further growth, (Weed, MDMA, Psychedelics), but if you can't drop back in and do something about it, you missed the message anyway.

ETA: This topics fascinates me so I'd love to see your post later on and I'd love to contribute to the comments. A lot of people had no idea X state of mind existed until they tried pot or something else. It's a breath of fresh air... maybe their first breath ever... to be like, "Holy shit... I can BE like this??" There are not a lot of people out there right now that can guide drug addicts properly out of their addiction. They are drug addicts in the first place because no one ever told them (or maybe they didn't believe) they could get there sober with the right effort.

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I’ve actually had the same realization thanks to MDMA. It wasn’t the drug itself, its the fact that the drug removes any fear you have of acting true to your intentions. So MDMA was a great way for me to realize the potential if you just stop being such a fucking scared pussy.

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is this side effect present now or only when you’re on MDMA?

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[–]HeadingRed51 points52 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

My Dad - blue collar guy without much money- was a womanizer and had a lot of women. Brought his 20yr old girlfriend to my 8th grade graduation. Had women left and right. When I was older (18-19 or so) he told me his trick.

He just walked up to a girl in a bar, talked for a couple of minutes and then said "wanna fuck". I didn't say anything. He says "just ask them if they want to fuck. They all want to fuck. They may not want to fuck you, or fuck tonight, but they all want to fuck."

I watched it happen - we were on a trip with his friends and their sons. Me and the other two guys my age were about 15-16 and in bar in WI (you can do it back then - even get a beer if your parents were there). And by the end of the night he got 2 20-ish women over to our table, tried to set us up. Both them wanted him - but he went after another girl at the bar and went with her instead.

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[–]lenovoisshit8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Reads like fan fiction. What does your dad look like?

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Younger years fairly good looking. Keep in mind he also spent a lot of time in bars. We were in a bar - I was about 14-15 when he gave me the "I just walk up, talk to them for a bit and say "wanna fuck".

As to what he looks like think 50's greaser\gangster type that morphed into Frank from Shameless (American version). Did a highly physical trade, fit, just drank a lot for about 30 years. Wer're from Chicago - Shameless is spot-on in a few areas.

Fun fact - the 20yr old he brought to my graduation he met at a wedding performed by my mom's cousin (catholic priest).

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Keep in mind many of them were bar skanks. We had a waitress living with us - she had 2 kids, one partial custody, full on the baby, her ex was in jail etc. Another one would start with vodka every day right at 2. Another smoked pot from when she woke up until she went to sleep.

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[–]lenovoisshit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You must have also seen a lot of bad rejection. Any good stories to share on that?

[–]sleepyinbk1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

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because he too has a habit of serial dating 20 somethings

[–]StrifePrevails136 points137 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nothing will redpill you more than the night and day difference in how women behave in front of a dominant man they like vs someone else.

Yes. This is the main reason I can't respect anyone who knows about the red pill but doesn't follow it. Its effects are instantaneously apparent and, if I'm being honest, a bit intoxicating.

Great post though, OP. I read that post about transferring emotional states before this one and it seems like they're in agreement that fully believing that you're her best option actually shines through in your actions and increases your chances

[–]postreformedpua26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I watched this interview with Eckhart Tolle and it really changed my perspective on game and, more importantly, life. Really recommend it.

[–]trees_away8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mind sharing at least the name of the interviewer or perhaps, a link to where to find it? 🤣🤣🤣

I’m sure you didn’t intend to leave that stuff out and give an endorsement of any old interview he’s done so I found it funny.

[–]ReturningSpider45 points46 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Good post. I used to really struggle with confidence (even though I’d still do a decent job faking it). I was always thinking about whether or not people around me will approve of what I’m doing - essentially, I needed constant validation that what I’m doing is cool enough to be done right now. At some point I realized everyone thinks this. Everyone is looking to everyone for validation (assuming you aren’t so low SMV that you’re invisible to people). The difference between “alphas” and everyone else was alphas validate themselves - and in turn, instead of being stuck looking to everyone else for validation are in fact the ones people look to for approval.

It’s as easy as giving yourself permission to believe you’re the awesome motherfucker you know you are.

Addendum: Obviously you need to have something going for you for this to work well. Yeah, I’ve read the stories here of those magic men who have 9s and 10s swooning despite being short/fat/bald/whatever too, but realistically this is easiest done if you look good. I know I sure as fuck couldn’t be as confident as I am if I wasn’t a 6’2” gym bro

That said, believe in yourself no matter what. A confident short, ugly bald guy beats an insecure short ugly bald guy 10 times out of 10

[–]maroonblood949 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

6 ft 8 here, former college football player with a tight end physique. Height ain’t the end all be all you guys think. Confidence and frame are what win at the end of the day. It’s why my ugly, 5 ft 3 buddy who doesn’t lift still pulls better tail than me.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Everyone always has a story about how some 7 foot 3 giant with Chad's skull structure and Bilzerian levels of Financial security, always gets out-gamed by some short, fat, balding ginnger cus of his confidence and frame.


[–]chrisname7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is everyone on this sub over six feet tall?

[–]Celicni27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're under, you wouldn't be flaunting it. The midgets don't talk about their height, so you think everyone's tall.

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Hey! Just wanted to tell you all that I‘m a 6‘1“ shredded cunt with white teeth, tan and fucking beautiful eyes brah🙂 ok that‘s all I have to say have a nice day y‘all

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime17 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I used to have a much more Machiavellian approach to game, but over the years it's very much morphed into something similar to this.

Was the former effective? Absolutely, infact I would say it was more successful in terms of numbers.

Would I rather adopt a Machiavellian approach over a true intentions approach? I cant say that I would.

The true change that took place was where the focus lay. The Machiavellian approach was very much focused on my target. What steps would I need to take to pull this woman and act it out accordingly. I would find myself in many encounters that didn't serve me purely because I had set out to conquer rather than to enjoy the process.

Whereas now the focus is very much on the moment and enjoying it, and simply making value judgements along the way. Is this encounter serving me and If not I cease to participate, If it serves I will follow through.

A large player in that as I think for you has been in cultivating a more presence, outcome independent mindset. When one is present there is simply awareness of your surroundings. Your actions are not dictated by an end goal, you're simply experiencing the moment for what it is. If it organically goes in a direction you desire then great. If it does not, then it did not serve you and life goes on to the next moment.

This brings me far more fulfillment.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

A large player in that as I think for you has been in cultivating a more presence, outcome independent mindset. When one is present there is simply awareness of your surroundings. Your actions are not dictated by an end goal, you're simply experiencing the moment for what it is. If it organically goes in a direction you desire then great. If it does not, then it did not serve you and life goes on to the next moment.

Exactly. You perfectly get it.

Add in a pinch of expressing yourself to your woman and you have the potential for some mad fun.

I think even the crazy stuff turns out fine. But even if it doesn't, there are more women in my life than I know what to do with.

[–]freeupboats4every1 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you realize most strong women with self esteem who are comfortable with their bodies will never tolerate that kind of treatment?

[–]sleepyinbk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure they will if you say it properly. You can get away with anything with the right delivery if she's into you. Or maybe she's just saying it to shut you up?

[–]SelfTaughtPiano1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont get it. Please explain.

[–]frooschnate2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the honesty without sucking up m8

[–]Oscar_Dondarrion3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point mate. I think I'm still in the Machiavellian approach

[–]Shaney962 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pardon the utter randomness of this, but reading your comment made me realize that I'm insecure about my low n-count.

So often recently have I come into internal conflict about whether I should just try to close girls because it'll get my n-count up, versus doing what I actually want to do. I realize now that I should still strive to take action, but shouldn't just see girls - many of whom I'm not even too attracted to - as 'conquests', but should instead be honest with my intention and go for only what I truly feel I want in each moment.

I'll reiterate that I'm not attempting to rationalize my way out of taking action, but instead hoping I'll now be more able to take congruent action and live a less-anxious, more fulfilling life.


[–]never_since40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I know this is completely semi-related, but these posts on TRP have really good formatting aesthetics. Probably the best I've seen around Reddit

[–]Raja47924 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the only subreddit that seems to follow a good post with further reading links. Honestly some decent writers here, at least in terms of rigor

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear22214 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My favorite post this year. Excellent. I've instinctively began to do this because I wasn't seeing the results I wanted on tinder. Everything felt so scripted following Om La La's guide and others and had little success. Once I started saying what I really wanted to and stopped giving a fuck, the results were night and day. I got what I was trying to do for the longest time.. Getting them to invest in me more than them.

Take it from me, make your intentions known but don't overdue it and come off needy or thirsty; internalize that the worst she can say is "No" and that you'll move on and forget about her instantly if that happens. Watch your results go up drastically.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once I started saying what I really wanted to and stopped giving a fuck, the results were night and day.

Another great summary. With a little bit of practice, and the conscious knowledge that you're supposed to disregard your fears and insecurities... and it becomes like riding a bicycle.

I'm a firm believer that flirting is something you are naturally equipped to do. It is only our fears and insecurities that stops our healthy sexuality dead in its tracks, like a sort of egoic pollution.

[–]jokenoke45614 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what this comes down to is that people don’t remember what you say, they remember how you make them feel, i.e they make their decisions based on emotion not logic.

You could have the best thought out line in the world but if you don’t deliver it with confidence her takeaway will be that ‘this guy thinks I’m more important than he is’ and act accordingly.

Vica versa, if you act with strong frame, regardless of what you actually say in the conversation she will remember it positively because she was talking with a dying beast in our civilisation, the alpha male.

[–]BurnoutRS11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Something that was crucial for me was learning to see how solutions often lie within the problem.

"omg what do I say to this girl? what if I say the wrong thing?"

you could take that and make it your opener

"hey do you ever find yourself wanting to talk to someone but you just cant think of a good icebreaker?"

Another thing im coming to realize is how your self esteem will manifest itself in either a belief in your ability (confidence) or a disbelief in your ability (intimidation)

As a low status beta male, it seems that you instinctively know that the goods you are trying to sell are pretty sorry looking. So the mindset is mystical. Actually getting a girl to fuck you is "getting lucky" and for most betas it really is because they arent doing it willfully when they do pull. Hence the search for magic words. The perfect opener that, once said, will get the girl.

Guys who pull, from a beta standpoint, look like theyre doing nothing different from what the beta tries. Yet when the beta tries, he fails. The only difference he can discern is luck or divine fortune.

Its a pretty strong coping mechanism for low status people to give in to the mystical, and find peace in religion and the idea of the divine. After all, its a lot less disheartening to know that god is the reason for your suffering and not your own stupidity and unwillingness to make something of yourself

[–]inexorable_stratagem27 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

OP recommends The Book of Pook.

Guys, read this book.

It was not even supposed to be a book. Pook used to post in SoSuave Forum back in the early 2000s and was treated like a god.

Years later someone put together all his writings and compiled in this book.

I highlighted no less than 50% of the phrases in The Book of Pook.

Read! Now!

Link: https://bookofpook.neocities.org/TheBookofPook.pdf

[–]TakinCareOfBizznizz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing. Just downloaded

[–]420KUSHBUSH-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I only recently realized I read a little bit of The Book of Pook (I'm fairly certain) and The Sex God Method when I was 12

[–]3LiveAFTSOV-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why did people treat some random anonymous faget as a God we have no idea who is or is credentials

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

esp. on such a good post with great comments.

[–]3chazthundergut7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent content. Many good observations here dude.

Congruence is extremely attractive.

Learn to speak and act according to your deepest truth.

[–]Oscar_Dondarrion11 points12 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I agree with virtually everything in here except for the actual title haha. I just can't imagine a worthwhile girl going for that, I feel like it sounds like something an incel would say to a girl when he's trying to build confidence. But part of that could be that being from England, people and girls in general in places such as cafes etc are much more reserved and suspicious- England being known in general for being home to a more reserved people than many other countries.

I'd also advise to anyone that while if you're particularly interested in Eckhart Tolle and his writings and teachings then The Power of Now is worth a read, as OP recommends, but really the book spends a long time communicating a very simple message and often ends up restating the same thing over and over. A way around this would be to watch one of his many lectures and talks on Youtube. I believe The Power of Now audiobook is on there too, or once was.

Anyway, by and large great post mate.

edit: typo

[–]420KUSHBUSH13 points14 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I just can't imagine a worthwhile girl going for that, I feel like it sounds like something an incel would say to a girl when he's trying to build confidence.

The craziest best moments happen when you try applying the most ridiculous things you can think of

"Only when you are willing to risk everything do you stand to gain the most" -Me, just now

[–]Oscar_Dondarrion-2 points-1 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Maybe so, but with someone worthwhile? Personally I wouldn't trust the judgement of a girl who would be willing to give me the time of day after an opener like that.


[–]420KUSHBUSH4 points5 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

If the last time you checked, you are a man, then that explains it. You have to understand men and women are different and thus have different needs and wants. Confidence does not nearly matter as much to a man as it does to a woman

[–]Oscar_Dondarrion-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I understand that, but honestly if your assertion is that a legit 5 star bish who is gonna be worth spending some serious time with is gonna give you the time of day after an opener like that, then you've never had one.

Shallow bimbos or easily tricked naive kind of girls yes, but no one to write home about as it were.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

a legit 5 star bish who is gonna be worth spending some serious time with is gonna give you the time of day after an opener like that

1) This is a delusion. I am not trying to insult you. I am stating a fact. There is no such thing as a "5 star bish."

Two) One should not take themselves (or anything, really) so seriously. Socrates played with young toddlers with abandon. So did Marcus Aurelius.

There is wisdom in this.

There is timeless wisdom in this. Primal. Even an infant knows it. You know it. It goes back beyond the evolution of modern man and his ego.

In my experience, it is in fact the woman who is so tragically trapped in her super-serious-pants egoic life of being super serious, who will most appreciate it when I make life fun again. When I make her a little girl again.

Quatre) No one is worth spending time with if they do not enrich your experience of life. Do not spend your time with people who are incompatible with your desires. Don't judge your idea of fun and enjoyment as too childish for women or anyone. Did you cringe when I wrote quatre and skipped 3? Well, fuck you. :) In summary, find women who are good for you.

Lastly) Even if we were not speaking from the criteria of "good for you"... even then, you are in delusion. If she was so absorbed in her self-important ego, of "being a 5-star bish" as it were, to not be able to indulge in an obvious offer for a fun conversation... then she is not worth spending finite time with.

She can be busy. That is fine. Tired of men approaching her. I respect that too. But being too "5 star" for such a lowly expression of interest? That is a little "2-star bish" for me.

[–]487563945739021 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I cringed when I saw you skipped 3 and immediately knew you were going to make a point of it and how much of a free spirit you are. You let the fact that you did a good thread go to your head.

[–]Rakosnik1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

thats like judging a car right after switching the key. 5star bish? tell us what your awesome opener would be so you feel confident to judge right after it if she is a worthwhile?

[–]Oscar_Dondarrion1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You don't get to judge immediately if she's a 5, that comes with time, however you can most definitely tell she's not if she sits down and actually believes that an attractive confident dude is practicing an online method or flirting and is actually okay with it.

Honestly, ask yourself if that doesn't sound like some autistic virgin move.

[–]Devoidoxatom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The OP said its in the way you said it too. Imagine an attractive dude smiling teasingly saying this. Its not hard to imagine girls actually falling for that. Youtube pranksters try to pick up random college girls with the cringiest lines they could think and they still get good reaction. Examples would be angrypicnic and thatwasepic's videos.

[–]Aesthetic_God__3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post man. It highlighted most of my deeper thoughts lately, on being honest with what you want.

Thanks, I needed that to kick start this.

[–]420KUSHBUSH2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Recently had a hilarious rejection and a few ones before that while being upfront and direct. This post is what I needed, thank you

Not only does it provide sentimental value, it is so well written and offers a different perspective than most posts on here. Sidebar and +1 material fo sho fo sho

[–]STFUIDGAFUCK2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is gold

[–]Meta-h2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of the five points you put forward I think passing all congruence tests is most key. When you do this you’re showing that you’re frame is unshakable and then she has once choice left. Enter your frame or move on. This cuts through a lot of BS.

[–]Ezaar2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the first part of the post, it made sense to me.

Voicing your intentions and being clear about what you want from the girl on an approach or while flirting is always a good thing and prevents her from manpulating, as you said.

But I think that this is true to a certain extent. I know that women perceive those with high SMV differently than those with low SMV, meaning the same behaviour would look cool and nice from a Chad and weird and fucked from a Joe. But that doesn't mean that it's advisable to always do it even if you're a high-value man.

This kind of reminds me of the "Be yourself" myth that was internalized in us via media and feminized culture. You can't be yourself all the time, mate. Sometimes, as sad as it may sound, you always have to readjust your behaviour to what is right and what is wrong.

[–]Moto90LP2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the level of stoic that every RP need to understand, being true to your ownself no matter what and act as your intentions guide you.

Focus on the moment and ignore every possiblity that can happen, be honest with yourself and that will be reflected with your actions.

[–]maverick97592 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But along with this, never forget that chicks never want full disclosure.. You know how they say the secret to a successful relationship is " communication " BS.. Learnt that from Rollo.. If you are feeling insecure and you tell her that you think that'll work ? If you feel you are fat and you tell her " I am really insecure about my weight " that'll gain you sympathy and that's all you will get. You need to have solid inner game, that is non reactive, self qualified frame on and from there you can say whatever the hell comes to your mind but having an unshakable frame is imperative.

[–]Master_Elrond1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Goddamn perfect comment right here

[–]person84452 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This was a good read, so thanks op I will try to apply.

However, it seems to conflict some of my learnings regarding covert communication rather than overt. Is anyone able to reconcile that for me?

[–]KilluaKanmuru2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This dude is high off presence.

[–]Hello_Peptides2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/We_Are_Legion thanks for the post. You mentioned fear due to life-time of bullying and family troubles. Can you share how you managed to deal with it?

I'm a big and strong guy and also quite accomplished academically/professionally for my age. But on the inside I still feel fear and inadequacy caused by the issues you mentioned.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Others asked me via PM too. I will do a post on this later. :) A long journey to condense actionable lessons out of.

[–]MrIncreible102 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"And over time, as you expose more and more of your repressed feelings, desires, thoughts, interests, behaviours to the light of day... you'll naturally learn more about yourself and how to best make yourself happy. And find women who fit best with that."

Wow, a simple truth yet a very difficult application. Those sporadic thoughts that come around our minds may be our true deepest desires. Our desires we let society, failures, relationships, and friends store in our own subconscious so we never fulffill ourselves. Get to know each other, but MOST importantly say it!

I believe saying things, to others, not yourself, mentalizes yourself to do what you want. Speaking is powerful. That is why maybe I remember things more when I read them out loud while I´m studying.

[–]CarthaginianSalt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you sound just like Tyler Durwin from Fight Club. Which is pretty accurate cause Tyler was the version that the other guy wished he could do/be and say.

[–]RedUtopia6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is exactly what I need right now.. I recently had a huge L when I tried to game a chick from my school, and I wasn't in my head so I acted as if I had zero knowledge of TRP. Eventually I fell into her frame.. I guess more time spent out there will help solve that anxiety problem instead of spending all day reading theories.

[–]420KUSHBUSH1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what I need right now.. I recently had a huge L when I tried to game a chick from my school

Are you me?

[–]BoringUN 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

But you,yourself, are not being true to your intentions in pretending to "practice" flirting.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lets say, my intention is to practice my approach game.

He clarified that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m really excited. I really like this. Time to go make moves.

[–]redwineit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, sincerely, thank you for putting this into words.

[–]tobrehtraetalf1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Can you give an example of passing a shit test by dismissing her authority?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If a 4yr old girl said you had a big nose and funny shoes, are you going to get butthurt & defensive or are you gonna laugh with her and make a fun joke out of it.

[–]420KUSHBUSH18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Clearly the best course of action would be to reply with "You're the reason why your parents divorced"

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ask yourself what all the different kinds of shit-test response types (sidebar) are meant to convey. They essentially dismiss her authority to test you. They show you're higher status.

Like so, EXAMPLE: "Tobrehtraetalf, I wish you were taller."

1) Agree & Amplify (basically makes a joke out of what she said.)

"I wish I was a real human being too."

2) Pressure Flip (applies the same standards to her.)

"I wish your boobies were bigger. And I could motorboat you."

3) Nuclear option (just tells her to fuck off.)

"Yah ok. Fack off."

and so on.

When you're approaching women, many shit-tests are just women breaking rapport when you've shown you've become emotionally invested, just to see if you'll squirm. They're calling your bluff, seeing how desperate you are. Men rooted in their own intentions are not terribly emotionally invested in her. But men who only gathered enough courage to talk to her because they think she's given them a green light will crumble when she breaks rapport. Truly hot girls will do that to you. They'll feign the worst rapport breaks.

Again, you dismiss her authority to ruin your plans. You continue having fun no matter what she does.

EXAMPLE: "Tobrehtraetalf, you're like a brother to me."

1) Agree & Amplify (keep escalating even if you label me as a socially unacceptable sexual partner. e.g. as a brother. Who is she to decide what brothers can do?)

"I think so too. You know what brothers are like?" She'll say no. Point to someone in the crowd and say "Well... they're like... you see that guy over there?" she'll come close to your face naturally looking where you're pointing, and then you can kiss her on the cheek. And then say "they're like that."

^ (This seems very gay but I've done this. Her cheeks were so cute, I wanted to kiss them.)

[–]mattyiceheretoentice1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Additionally, if she ends up turning you down and you don’t care and maintain shamelessness and all that jazz, if you were to see her out again in the future, I can almost guarantee she would want you. It’s just how girls are. Her seeing how little she mattered to you would make her feel like she’s missing out.

[–]420KUSHBUSH2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One very important concept I used to see mentioned months ago yet be left to age, perhaps one of the cornerstone principles of this sub, is "People want what they can't have"

[–]miya3162 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is just fucking beautiful. Hats off man, Resonance is strong with this one.

[–]rockyp321 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Favourite post on here pretty much answered all my questions

[–]justchilllllin1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you read the book Mode one? A lot of similarities in your post.

[–]inexorable_stratagem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I want to read it. Is it good ?

[–]redpill_scientist921 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shit, you could write models better than Manson.

Edit: I'm still not going to approach women and tell them I'm practicing flirting i read online though. That sounds like autism.

[–]Rakosnik3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

no shit. you make it sound like autism even in your comment. good that you let us all know what you not gonna do. noone cares about what you gonna not do. get it?

[–]humzy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If I was to be extremely congruent and completely honest then there would be no flirting or intro. It would be “hey I think you are sexy and I am looking for a one night stand so grab my hand and let’s head back to the room so I can fuck your face”. Would this come off as attractive? Would this improve my ability to get laid?

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate giving canned lines or saying "yes, that will work" when someone asks me about their line (really, you're just depriving yourself of the excitement and learning of exploring your own intentions, beyond what you think it is)... but...

Would this come off as attractive? Would this improve my ability to get laid?

You'd be surprised.

I know some might be aiming to just tear me apart here with "gotcha! your advice has limits!" but you would actually be surprised. This isn't it. If, in that moment (do NOT go out with pre-meditated lines), you truly only have one desire, interest and intention and that is what you said... and you also have the psychopathic trait of having zero desire for any human interaction and intimacy along the way, then go ahead.

Say the above in an extremely honest, self-assured, unapologetic and straightforward manner (fear will make it awkward. you wimping out will make it awkward) and you will be ahead of many pussyfooting Nice Guys. It will be the most polarizing, amazing thing anyone has ever said to her.

It takes a lot of practice to be able to get to that level... and social convention and incompatibility with her goals still requires her to reject you. But I guarrantee you that....

1) you will not waste time.

2) it will be fun, if nothing else. following your intention (IN THAT MOMENT, IN THE PRESENT MOMENT) is fun by definition.

3) she will find it deeply, viscerally attractive

4) she will not be able to manipulate you

5) if you can do it without fear, and are locked on to your goal, you'll be passing congruence tests like automatic.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Today was magic.

I literally tried this all day and I can't believe how I've held myself back for so long. Thank you

[–][deleted] 1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]10points4gryffinddor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also I’ve learned to calm down self talk using meditation

[–]palmeiras0470 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"Hi, Can I practice flirting with you for 10 minutes? I'm following this online guide on how to pick up chicks."

What if she says yes?

What is your next line?

I would probably laugh and say "wow, I never been in this part before" or "damn, no one had say yes".

[–]greenlittleman1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Strategically this opening and your answers are low value shit. This will work (more often than not) in case you are confident and just say it for fun instead of really meaning it and asking her permission and then telling her "oh, i'm such a loser what every girl rejected me until i met youu", it wouldn't be good even if you are not serious, if you are joking around anyway why wouldn't you say something like "guide told me what if she does [insert here whatever she did] then it means she already fall in love with me" , or whatever shit what goes from better frame? There shouldn't be a frame what she is too good for you, there should be a frame what you are too good for her, or at least she is trying to impress you and it is she who should want to be with you. Instead of "I want to be with you so much" there should be "there is something wrong with you girl if you don't want to be with me, because this is obvious choice you should make".

[–]palmeiras0470 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh, I see. I like your comment way better.

[–]markinsinz70 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not connecting well with this post. Maybe someone can provide insight.

I'm hardly experienced sexual per se. However in terms of conversation I can keep it going for days. Generally my conversations though while tend to reach a deeper emotional level they fail to result in something solid. That is my leading of a woman's emotions is somewhat non existent

My question is I mostly meet girls during the day on cold approach and social activities. How can this post help me really? I have no passions. Personality isn't masculine either. I feel this maybe for more advanced peeps out there. Being congruent in a cold approach? Yea k I do that shitt goes no where.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Personality isn't masculine either.

You provided yourself all the insight you need.

[–]markinsinz70 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm aware of my main issue but I'm severely limited by genetics. In this sense I don't get why the post was made the headliner. Congruence yea? Guys show intentions all the time and lose em women. The post comes off as just do it and it'll happen. Something I'm not seeing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Couple things...

1) You can make yourself more masculine. Be careful about media consumption. For instance, I love watching football but the commercials make me barf. If you want to see how not to act, watch any male Starbucks barista. Fix any problems with pelvic tilt. Lift. Etc.

2) If you were hit hard enough with the ugly stick, you might be in for a rough road for a while. You probably don't want to hear it, but post-Wall might be all you get. It could be worse.

The Red Pill isn't about making you feel good about yourself. It is about a wicked cold look at the Sexual Marketplace, and not everybody gets to play. If you don't get things like this excellent, informative and applicable original post, that might be you.

One other thing.....yes, "lift lift" is always said here, but the fact of the matter is your results may vary. My results are so profound that all I want to do with my life is go back to 1988 and kick my skinny 16 y/o ass until he got serious about a lifetime of athleticism. It's not for bitches. It's for you.

Don't let this comment be wasted.

[–]markinsinz71 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good comment but no that's not what I meant by genetic limitations. Thanks for the input but my struggle is definitely in gettin a girl excited to hang out with me - during my initial approach. As for th masculinity part that's a more complicated story

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is really nothing complicated requiring explanation. Effective verbal communication comes from you knowing what you want, and daring to express it confidently and clearly. Strong behaviour stems from you being true to your values, and makes you virtually impossible to manipulate.

However in terms of conversation I can keep it going for days. Generally my conversations though while tend to reach a deeper emotional level they fail to result in something solid.

If you want "something solid", act on that desire. Do not pursue wishy washy emotional conversations for days.

You are holding yourself back. It is not just emotional conversations that you want. Stop lying and say what you think.

[–]Not_A_randomfakename0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dang it's always easier said than done. For some (Alphas, strong inner game), speaking your truth comes naturally. For others fear/ego/desire/paralysis/what others think combine to create a deadline concoction of frustration. Have to constantly remind myself practice makes perfect and change doesn't happen overnight. Thanks for this post and will try and incorporate it into my daily life

[–]sleepyinbk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My only real take away is that I miss being a handsome sex god. Either gotta lower standards, adjust game, or drop 40lbs again. Just in time for fall/winter when my exercise of choice is cycling. Biking in the rain on a fixed gear (silly impractical death machine) was fun enough while getting paid for it. Without the carrot it is hard for me to become a stick again.

Ok so do I somehow get the motivation to start eating properly or can I overcome this self-defeating mindset at my current size? I don't want to stop eating garbage. My inner game is between a bag of Takis, a quart of Strawberry Ice Cream, and that Damn Bike on the wall staring at me.

[–]Auxfite0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Asking a girl to practice game on her sounds like kid shit. Just have the confidence to talk to her without the urge to buy her a drink. It’s that simple. A lot of men on here haven’t discovered the key to getting women is being fearless and confident. I guess this come from self development and growth not everyone can do that. Good post tho.

[–]TheGreatMclovin 1 points [recovered]  (3 children) | Copy Link

Imagine being so dumb and reading all of these. I thought redpill was a page that was about working on your self. Not using "tactics" to get some pussy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You were mistaken. You are, in fact, on a forum for sexual strategy.

There is nothing wrong with being more direct in your desire for pussy. You don't go to gym to earn the right to sex. That is a tactic as well.

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

deleted What is this?

[–]Dawnguards-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is definately belongs to PUA forums not here. Red pill is about getting red pilled, not becoming stronger blue-pilled guy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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