How prevalent are all these horror stories that keep popping up?

TfahsNoriEht · 2014-02-17T00:47:06+00:00

In the United States

According to a study published in 2011—

In 2006, 49% of pregnancies were unintended—a slight increase from 48% in 2001.

http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/unintendedpregnancy/

That's the closest you're going to get.

themoor · 2014-02-17T00:02:36+00:00

One thing economists get right... humans respond to what you incentivize.

Make divorce rape lucrative for women, it will be on their radar whether overtly consciously or covertly subconsciously. There's little lost for a woman who can walk away with cash and prizes (and the kids) with the legal odds greatly in her favor. No wonder more and more men refuse to "man up" and marry women these days...which leads to...

Lower the price of sex without commitment... guys will gravitate towards PUA in order to up their odds in the game, given that women are putting off marriage and handing it out if your skills are up to snuff. Guys are driven by a desire for sex and when it doesn't come, many will try to figure out how to increase their chances for getting it. Not hard to figure out, really.

Wonder why feminism gets mentioned a ton in the manosphere? Because the changes in socio-sexual relations we are experiencing are in a significant part related to feminist efforts. The chicks just don't want to hear it.

Finally, what feminists and their supporters have not historically taken into account is the law of unforeseen consequences. That's what's really going on and what they do not what to hear about...

Maybe didn't answer your question directly, but indirectly, yes, this shit happens and it has much to do with broader social forces (interacting with long-ingrained biological ones) that have been unleashed.

MajorasAss · 2014-02-17T00:17:20+00:00

My best friend got a thorough fleecing by his ex.

He could prove she was addicted to pills and a terrible mother.

They brought up his atheism in court.

Judge gave him a taste of the long fist of the law.

Paying $800 a month while in school full time with a part time job. 28 years old and couldn't even move out of his mom's house until he got a job as an apartment manager and was able to get free rent.

puaSenator · 2014-02-17T04:02:32+00:00

I'd say 1 and 3 are unbelievably unlikely for the average RP man. Two is more common, but still not as likely as most people would believe. Just keep your dick away from crazy. It seems that the chances of this happen increases with fame/wealth. So you and I may not need to worry about it, for the most part, but Bill Gates or Kobe would have to worry about it.

And 4, unbelievably common. Family law attorneys are fucking animals, and women generally want to get as much free money as they legally can. Even prenups wont save your ass.

2014-02-17T03:36:48+00:00

One of my sister's best friends pulled a #2 on some wealthy guy. Even though she made her own money, and a lot of it, she wanted to get married and have children. So, she unilaterally took herself off birth-control without telling the guy . . . only to find out he'd been cheating on her with someone else.

As for #4, have the kids in my affluent town came from broken homes. Many of the women were doing quite well with the alimony. One of my best friend's mother dumped his father when he started having money and health issues, then found an older, wealthier man to latch onto.

Another friend had two kids with a girl only find out that she had three other kids by two other men living in another state.

drok007 · 2014-02-17T01:03:21+00:00

I'd say 2 and 4 are common enough to be significant. 1 and 3 seem like exceptions, but they still add to the general notion overall.

InscrutablePUA · 2014-02-17T02:22:32+00:00

Regardless of how prevalent these situations happen, they do happen and we have to be ready. Women are capable of these things and we have to take percautions, just like how you lock your house at night. It sounds like you're trying to say NAWALT.

johnnight · 2014-02-17T07:33:24+00:00

2) Girl who 'forgets' to take birth control medication also to hook a guy.

Happened in my friend circle. Probability: ca. 15%.

4) Girl who divorces you after X number of years for no fault of yours and takes a significant %age of your wealth with her.

Probability: ca. 50% in the US.

RedBigMan · 2014-02-18T02:59:57+00:00

Does anyone have statistics on how common these situations are?

I doubt anyone has any real statistics on this stuff. There is not a whole lot of research dollars out there to research things which will actually promote men's rights. I imagine if we had a true idea of how common these things are then men as a whole would stand up and demand things like legal abortion (man terminating his rights as well as obligations to a fetus before it's born).

The closest we have to equality in this respect will be that injection that works like a reversible vasectomy comes on the market.

2014-02-18T05:36:28+00:00

4 is the likeliest of this list.

Unless the girl is loaded, I would stay away from the marriage contract. It's just not worth it.

As someone pointed out, the economists are right. Incentives matter. There are virtually no incentives for men to get married, but a lot for women. And then, a woman ends up with a ton of incentive to get divorced, while a man has little.

_Fony_ · 2014-02-17T00:14:38+00:00

there's just under(or just over?) one million "oops" pregnancies every year in the US.

watersign · 2014-02-17T02:49:48+00:00

selection bias. im sure it happens quite a bit, but it also doesn't happen alot either..

2014-02-17T07:44:57+00:00

Happened to my dad twice.

redpillbanana · 2014-02-17T11:52:45+00:00

1 and #3 (condom sabotage and sperm-jacking) are honestly not that common. Then again, MRSA is probably even less common but you should still take reasonable precautions at the gym, because the consequences in both cases are severe and irreversible.

2 (intentionally stopping birth control) is actively discussed on women's forums, so I'd say it is pretty damn common.

4 (getting screwed in a divorce) happens all the time. Luckily there is a preventive measure that works 100%.

The problem is that women aren't punished for doing this stuff - there are no legal consequences, so it is entirely up to their sense of honor and integrity whether to pursue these courses of action.

'...you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?'

BluepillProfessor · 2014-02-19T04:26:05+00:00

The chance of any 1 of the 4 with the woman "accidently" or intentionally knocking herself up or hypergaming out for Vagimony rape? 1 in 2.

The Chance of 2 of the 4 (i.e. some form of false impregnation choices 1-3 followed by the forced marriage and then the vagimony rape) 1 in 6

The chance of a fairy tail, life-long commitment. 1 in 350.

Marriage Speaks!

2014-02-16T23:59:33+00:00

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2014-02-17T03:10:45+00:00

.01% (1 out of ten thousand or 1/10,000) of unplanned pregnancies. This would jump up astronomically if you were noticeably rich (think about the NBA example). The reason this is discussed isn't as much due to the frequency but more just to demonstrate that this extreme exists.
80% (8/10ths) of unplanned pregnancies in which the girl is understood to have been on the pill before hand. (not all unplanned pregnancies involve a contraceptive pill "failure"). If she says she's on the pill, then gets pregnant and doesn't abort, she was full of shit 99% of the time. If she aborts that makes up the difference and drops the % down to 80%
.01% again. Rare, but happens. People simply need to know that it DOES happen. Not frequently, but it does. there are simpler ways to get knocked up by a beta.
over 50% of marriages end in divorce. Of divorces, the rate at which the wife is trying to screw the husband out of more money than should be allotted is 100%. Don't EVER assume your wife will allow for a "clean" divorce without you giving up a shit ton of your wealth.

I made all these statistics up in my head. But they seem reasonable.

Title	How prevalent are all these horror stories that keep popping up?
Author	InscrutablePUA
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Date	February 16, 2014 11:51 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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