How to handle unattractive women that come on strong, are persistent, and won't leave you alone.

[deleted] · 2014-12-20T22:33:42+00:00

Put a dixieland horn in your car.

spicy_fries · 2014-12-21T03:43:22+00:00

Secretly record her advances. Tell her you do not consent. When she violates that consent scream "RAPE!!!" over and over again from the top of your lungs. Then post that shit so we can have some lulz.

natufian · 2014-12-21T13:23:49+00:00

/u/Thelaterbloomerstory I've only posted once or twice to TRP. I'm taking some time to read all the stuff in the sidebar, and learn the culture as stated in the rules to posting. I'll "not say shit and just listen" after this post, but as a black man I've dealt with this shit and can most definitely offer some advice.

The woman will try to shame you if you stick to your guns of not wanting to fuck her, but continue to try to weasel out of it. She will call you a punk, a faggot, or whatever else gets her some attention. It's much, much worse if you're a black man and she's a black woman, as she'll feel entitled to you reciprocating her sexual interest. Per Reddit demographics I'll assume you're a 20's something white guy, but it really doesn't matter either way-- your response will be the same either way, and you have 2 options:

1) Establish that you're the man and you are physically superior to her, and also that you're fuckin' alpha male in the relationship to her, and there's nothing that's gonna change that. What I mean by this is you look her in the eye with full knowledge that you could be a gentleman or that you could smash her teeth in (of course you don't do this), but that's the look you give her. You don't back down; you say exactly what you mean in no uncertain terms. You make it clear that she's not worthy of your time and that you can shut that shit down on level 1 or level fuckin' 11. Her choice. Be just a little more rude than you normally think is necessary. If you think you're being too rude, you're actually being exactly the right amount of rude.

2) Be honest with the bitch. I clearly remember an older guy, that I look up to, talking to me about something completely different from your problem, but what he said to me stuck. "She'd do it to you". Now as a man you will always end up treating bitches better than they treat you; and you should-- like I said before you could smash her teeth in if you wanted to. Our biology makes the thought of actually doing anything like that repulsive, and it should, we're not women. We have fundamentally different ideas of fair play. We naturally crave to take care of them and insulate them, there's nothing beta about that, it's basic biology-- no amount of TRP logic or conditioning is gonna purge that urge from us, we just have to learn to manage it. But the important point is that we have to manage it. What that means in your context is that you have to man up, find the points that you find unattractive about her and tell her about them to her face. In detail if necessary. She would in fact do it to you if you were being "a creep". Just tell her to stop being creepy, and don't smile when you say it.

A third option is the gambit. I didn't count this one because it could backfire, but it works. Basically it's just agree and amplify. If the chick looks like she's in way deeper water than she belongs blow her up right on the spot. Bitches don't actually know how to escalate sexually. They don't know how to lead towards sex. They don't know how to demonstrate value, because they don't feel they need to. They just know that they have a pussy and that if they advertise that it's available somebody will come and take it. Ask the hoe what she does for a living. Ask her how many kids she has. Ask her why she has to act like a hoe. Ask that hoe every single question that any hot girl you would try to validate to would be asking you. Just blow her shit up right there on the spot. "Oh you're the shit? You're a little nasty hoe huh? Let me see your titties right here. No? Don't show your goofy ass face around here again wasting my time." She might hamster herself into coming back, but escalate it ever further next time. Either way, she's clearly submissive and will listen, to some degree, when you tell her what to do (she's already 10 1/2 rungs up the "yes ladder").

All a few different tactics, but all the same vein. You can't be beta'd into being her man. I don't know what fucking pussy ass niggas teach her that this shit works, but I see it every now and again too, but if this is the biggest thing you've got to worry about you've got it good. To be honest though, if a woman feels comfortable putting her hands on you, you're probably sending off the same vibes that would make a man feel comfortable mugging you or seeing you as an easy mark. My guess is you're from a better neighborhood dealing with lower income people for the first time. Work on you body language bro. I hope any of this helps.

tyofwa · 2014-12-20T23:00:20+00:00

[Race agnostic reply]

Grow a pair. Dont "beta up" like the comments suggest. If you are really improving your masculinity then a beta fake will look like bullshit, AND it might actually backfire.

Hypergamy's 1st rule - Women will seek to land the highest status male they can. You need to set expectations that you are not in her league. That means -

Straight up tell her that you are not attracted to her romantically.
Turn into a ghost on texts / phone calls. Let the communication run cold.
DONT hang out with her. Is she in your circle of friends? If so, WHY?

You have a female orbiter. UNLIKE women, dont friend zone her; she will not fall into line like a good beta male.

WhiteTrashInTrouble · 2014-12-20T20:27:37+00:00

It's a catch 22, since if you are forceful about it you become the "bad guy"

I say just fake a seizure.

TekkomanKingz · 2014-12-20T22:07:25+00:00

As a Black man if a Black woman were to do that to me I would put her in check like I would check a Man in regards to personal space (both physical and verbal). This is the only way many sisters get the point.

If it was a White woman or woman of another Race I would probably just find a way to not interact with her. If it's at work I would sit her down and have an adult conversation that this is not going to work. If she persists I will escalate to my direct supervisor and then HR to document in case she tries to launch a "harassment" suit in retaliation to rejection that I have my complaint on paper first.

If it's not at work and in a social circle which I cannot disengage from I will enlist the help of friends to convey the message and help cock-block. Becoming full blown Beta towards her specifically is not really worth the time or effort. Some girls will do this even if you have a girlfriend that is 10x hotter than her. Enlisting your woman's help won't assist you because if the pursuer looks busted she won't feel threatened.

Theoretically you could hire a female family member to give her a few lumps but that could get complicated. So I would say aside from filing a restraining order you could use some diversionary tactics and get her to orbit another dude. I don't believe making believe you suddenly had an epiphany and turned gay works.

To recap:

File a complaint at work if she's a co-worker
File a police report for a restraining order
Hire a female family member to intimidate her (preferably one that can physically dominate and beat her ass)
Last resort: Go Ultra Beta
Ultimate last resort: Hire a lawyer to sue her for damages and leave your locale if it's a small town and the lawsuit or restraining order doesn't work
Ultimate Ultimate Ultimate Last Resort: Report her to the evening news.

JackGetsIt · 2014-12-21T16:50:47+00:00

Seriously do what a high SMV girl would do to you. Friend zone her and make her give you shit: hotter friends, free shit etc.

oldredder · 2014-12-21T23:24:22+00:00

I've never even seen this happen anywhere.

brotherjustincrowe · 2014-12-20T20:24:51+00:00

This is where controlled beta behavior can benefit, although I haven't put this to the test myself.

Seems to me like we've spent a lot of effort in unlearning our beta conditioning so that womens' vaginas won't dry up for us. Seems like a little beta supplication would go a long way here.

vnjxk · 2014-12-20T21:08:52+00:00

How about 100% ignoring and cutting any possible connection.

[deleted] · 2014-12-20T21:13:52+00:00

I get her to talk about herself a bit and when she mentions her job or the major she's in I talk about someone random from my high school that's somehow related to the topic to the smallest detail until she wants to leave and then I keep talking for a few minutes until she actually leaves.

As in: "Do you know [insert name of person], I think he/she is in the same line of work/major and [insert boring conversation about the person she doesn't know]"

GRRMkills · 2014-12-20T23:07:22+00:00

I have a girlfriend, or if they know you don't...

I'm interested in someone else, or if they don't buy it...

I'm gay, or if they know you aren't....

Ignore 100% unless you have to talk to her for work or similar, don't make any plans with her, come up with lame excuses to not see her, etc. If she doesn't get the hint...

Ask yourself, will making myself the bad guy be worse than just dealing with unwanted advances? If not, then just reject her and say you're not interested in her. Probably the majority of the time I'm willing to just put up with it since making enemies is often worse than just dealing with annoyances

[deleted] · 2014-12-21T16:01:01+00:00

Do exactly what women do when a beta male hits on them.

[deleted] · 2014-12-21T16:11:03+00:00

I'm in a similar situation. A fat-fuck that I used to work with is now hounding me constantly trying to get me to go out with her. I tried ignoring her at first, then she started getting drunk and facebook messaging me over and over and over again saying "we need to hang out" (I have ignored all of them). I'm blown away that she doesn't see why I wouldn't be interested, I'm in good shape and she's a pig. I bet she turns down fat guys all the time.

I digress. I'm going to continue no-contact and since she doesn't run in my social circle, hopefully that will give her the answer she needs. Otherwise blocking her on Facebook is next. Followed by social shaming.

Gadget22 · 2014-12-20T21:10:06+00:00

Women have to do this stuff all the time and its not that big of a deal. I'm not attracted to anyone but black or Latino men, and I get hit on by white guys a lot. I don't say anything about race but I just show that I'm not interested or say I have a boyfriend. I'm sure its only ghetto black women who hit on you and many do that for fun because the culture is more aggressive. You can't think too much into it, especially considering most black women aren't attracted to guys who aren't black so those women probably arent serious lol.

2chainzFLEX · 2014-12-20T20:31:24+00:00

Tell her your life goals of living in a trailer park and start beoming obsessed with her. Full beta.

That will back her off. This chick threw my water bottle and groped me before lol, make yourself super undesirable

PlusGoody · 2014-12-21T21:21:51+00:00

This is a great sign that you need to change up and elevate your surroundings. Unattractive women are few and far between in the places that successful men frequent -- and those few that are there work overtime to be seen as "one of the boys" because they can't play the attractive girl games.

gideonrakthor · 2014-12-20T22:49:22+00:00

As much as I hate racial generalization, you are correct. I literally had a 4 come onto me for two years. Initially I was feeling alone and was happy to have a friend, but the more I improved myself and pushed her away, the more attracted/persistent she got. Extreme BP behavior took care of her in one day.

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Title	How to handle unattractive women that come on strong, are persistent, and won't leave you alone.
Author	Thelaterbloomerstory
Upvotes	15
Comments	66
Date	December 20, 2014 7:58 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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