How to meet and bang a girl

February 21, 2017


Be attractive For things you can’t control, make peace with the universe and accept that there are some girls that will just never fuck you because you are an ugly motherfucker. For shit you can control, look in the mirror, be objective, ignore your prejudices and insecurities, and just fucking fix what is wrong with you. If you can’t tell, ask a girl to tell you.

Your goals 1) get her emotionally invested in you (doing things for you, showing you positive body language, talking deeply about herself, being positive, and following you on your journey), 2) lead her around by developing a plan, tell her about it bit by bit, have her come along, change locations 2 or 3 times, end up at your house, 3) get her talking about herself and eventually pushing the interaction, 4) have genuine fun, which means do things you really find fun. If she thinks you’re pretending to have fun just to hang around her, she’ll think you’re corny. Even when you are dancing with her, she should feel like you really enjoy dancing and aren’t just doing it for her.

Your weapons are emotions The only way to break through a girl’s emotional wall is by delivering a strong emotional experience. You want to provide her the full spectrum of emotions: the low emotions (affection, comfort, relaxation, warmth, sexual energy, protection, silliness, authenticity), the high emotions (power, leadership, confidence, dominance, invincibility, weirdness, new experiences, high energy, masculinity), and the transcendent emotions (joy, transcendence, “love” in the abstract sense - don’t say “I love you”). Teasing is fine, but only if done on an underlying framework of positivity, friendliness and warmth. You must also speak intelligently, to overwhelm her thoughts AND emotions.

Strike the right balance Game is like surfing – you must stay at the “lip” of the wave - not too aggressive, not too passive. If you are too emotionally invested, she loses attraction and goes looking elsewhere. If you ignore her too much or act too platonic she thinks you’re not interested and goes looking elsewhere. You need to be slightly less emotionally invested in her the whole time, which means you need to know when to step on the gas and when to tap the brakes. I can’t teach this, it requires practice and the ability to read her.

Stepping on the gas is 1) making deep eye contract, 2) touching (preferably skin to skin), 3) Saying “bond-y” things like “we are the best dancers at this party”, 4) emitting sexual energy (just imagine sexual energy is a magical thing that you can just emit, you will know what I’m talking about), 5) inviting her to the next step in the adventure (“hey, let’s go to bar X after this drink”), 6) talking about deep/personal things. Women are very insecure, so if you don't keep your foot on the gas, her insecurity may make her check out of the interaction. Read her body language to determine if you should keep pressing the gas, but when in doubt, press. If she doesn’t like you, she can leave, or tell you to leave. “Creepiness,” to the extent such a concept exists, is simply emotional overinvestment. Don’t get too invested, and don’t do anything objectively creepy. If she unfairly thinks you’re being creepy, that’s not your problem.

Tapping the brakes is going cold. 1) looking at your phone, 2) breaking eye contact and looking around, 3) talking to other people, 4) doing what you want to do with no thought of what she wants to do, 5) fixating on a song or something else entertaining going on at the venue, 6) bathroom break 7) becoming unexpressive and silent. You tap the brakes when she taps the brakes – if she taps the brakes a little, you tap much harder, to let her know you make the rules, not her. Generally, you should tap the brakes more with “bitchy” girls, but you need to read correctly.

Even it’s going super well, tap the breaks occasionally to keep her guessing and to give her some breathing room. If you press the gas too hard, you can fix it by doing an emotional reset. For example, if you ask her to come to the next bar and she says no, I’ll say “ok, well I’m going anyway.” I then tap the brakes, do something different for a while, and then totally change the subject to something new. I build up the emotions again and then I say “ok, well I’m leaving now.” If she’s into you, she might follow the second time. If not, you’re chasing a dud.

You should also be ready to bail at any time if she is negative, crazy, or refusing to let you lead (that means she’s not attracted), even its 4 AM and you thought you made it. Don’t let the sunk cost fallacy ruin your night. You must have a video game or book you would be happy to go home to. Never do anything where you have to rely on her to get in, or get a ride home, etc… Don’t do something that you won’t enjoy doing. Sometimes she won’t get emotionally invested – it’s ok, not everyone has to like you – find someone who does

Come with the following things Breath mints. Charged phone. Charger if you might need it. Working Uber. Baby pictures - nephew, cousin, whatever. Two, three short stories that are funny, the more self-deprecating the better. A deep story about your perfect day (mine is smoking pot and riding my bike around South Beach listening to Madonna).

Get emotionally prepared Read, watch or think about something intellectually and emotionally more important than women and keep these thoughts and feelings in your head when out.

Talk to 3 girls before you go to your real venue There is a natural emotional “wall” that exists between people who are strangers. It’s the man’s job to break this wall down, but you need some practice so that your end of the wall is already gone.


Stay above the fray Imagine you just got back from partying with supermodels in Miami and these peasants are lucky you are even in their bar. Don’t get mired in petty conversations, stupid chit chat and negativity. Never forget that you are better than everybody there. And don’t forget you have a bulletproof plan to bring her back that works if you would just do it.

You don’t have to be her dream man This may not sound very inspirational, but the truth is that every woman is settling. Don’t drive yourself nuts thinking about whether you are good enough for her. Whether she likes you is none of your business. Go in, enjoy the interaction, and if she keeps talking to you, that means she’s fine with you. Think about yourself, not her.

Disinterested interest Humans connect on an emotional level and a rational level. Your rational words should show interest and enthusiasm but you must communicate the “emotion” of “I’m just talking to you to be nice, I would maybe rather be somewhere else.” Take the pressure off of her and just allow HER emotions to grow by not getting emotionally invested. And until she emotionally invests, DO NOT STOP YOUR MISSION. She should feel like you might walk away at any moment. Disinterested interest, however, does not mean be low energy or do not escalate – on the contrary, escalate and emit high sexual energy, just make her feel like are not totally emotionally committed.

Double meaning and plausible deniability You must constantly escalate, but also use “double meanings” – words and actions can be interpreted as interest and/or escalation, but also not. This keeps her guessing and gives you plausible deniability in case she feels pressured or indecisive. Say sexual things, but in a way that could possibly interpreted as just a joke. Example: Her: Are you trying to have sex with me? Me: I’m not sure, let’s see whether you mess this up.

Go deep Talk about deep stuff but don’t become her therapist or let her suck you into the vortex of her negativity or craziness. You are the lifeguard standing on the edge of the crazy pool, not another person drowning with her. Shift from silly to serious and back again effortlessly. Silly topics: 1) what’s your DJ name? 2) What super power would you want? 3) Everybody at the bar is secretly a paparazzi there to take pictures of you, but they are just playing it cool. 4) Let’s get drunk and go overthrow an oppressive government in the third world tonight. Serious topics: 1) How you have strong boundaries and don’t let people cross them, 2) How you are independent and do things alone, 3) how you are childlike and “nobody is really an adult”, 4) How you believe love is unconditional and not based on any particular attributes the person has, 5) How you love to live in the moment rather than have material things, 6) How you have a plan for world peace 7) How you love your job/hobby/whatever. Don’t discuss her exes, your exes, any other guy she is dating, or shit you will definitely disagree on. Call her out if she says anything fucked up like “I drink and drive.”

Don’t Don’t ask her for anything. Definitely don’t beg. Don’t let her feel like you are intimidated, awed or obsessed with her femininity or appearance. In fact, make sure any compliment about her appearance is done with extreme disinterested interest. If she does something overtly sexual to throw you off your game, use disinterested interest and double meaning to make her feel like you still may be interested, but the pussy can’t control you. Don’t give her anything she doesn’t deserve. Don’t pay for anything unless she pays for something first or agrees to pay (i.e., she agrees to buy the next round). Don’t let her dictate the conversation, especially if she wants to talk about stupid or boring shit. Don’t agree with her if she says crazy or stupid shit. Don’t validate yourself to her. Don’t brag.

Compliments Only compliment her if she did something actually objectively impressive and you are actually impressed.

The steps

Keep doing shit Motion creates emotion, so always be doing something when you’re out. You’re buying a drink, you’re finding your friend, you’re texting somebody. Women can subconsciously sense when you’re on a mission, and the moment you just stand there dumbly or show that she can throw you off your mission she loses attraction. No matter how hot or famous she is, don’t let her perturb you, change your emotional state, or alter your behavior. Until she gets emotionally invested enough in you, she has to feel like you would rather be doing something else and you are just talking to her to be nice.

Say hi to everyone Make eye contact with everyone. Say hi to every girl you see, with only extreme exceptions (she’s clearly there with a guy, etc…). Wave if she’s far away. The warmer her reaction, the more conducive she is to being approached. But keep doing what you’re doing as you’re saying hi. If you’re going to buy a drink, keep your body in the motion of buying a drink. The worst possible thing that can happen is that she gives you a weird look or looks away, and this usually only happens if she’s there with a guy. No matter how unattractive you are, on a biological level it’s hard to say no to a happy person saying hi to you.

If you’re in a social crowd with people you know, talk to everybody, men and women, so you don’t look like some creeper that just wants pussy. In fact, in a mixed crowd of friends talk to the head alpha male and then introduce yourself to the girls almost as an afterthought. But eventually introduce yourself to every girl there – it’s only polite.

Approach If she shows interest, approach, but keep doing what you’re doing. Sound like a contradiction? It is, but women’s feelings are contradictory. If you’re buying a drink, keep buying the drink as you are “approaching.” Good opening lines: “hey how are you,” “what’s your deal,” “you’re too hot to be here,” “how was your day?” “what brought you out tonight?” Stay warm and keep a big smile: you are a happy retard. Tap into the emotional “tone” of the moment? DJ’s awesome? Say something about it. Funny guy dancing in the corner? Say something about it. Keep it positive unless you can figure out a way to make a negative funny or positive.

What to talk about? The beginning conversation is less about the subject matter rather than proving to her you’re not a creep or stalker. Ask her what she’s doing at the bar, give her a compliment, make a joke and then just talk about whatever comes up naturally.

Eliminate duds as quickly as you can Who is she there with? Her boyfriend? Eliminate. Is she being negative? Bad mood? Being a jerk? Eliminate. Her friends? Where are they? What’s her plan for the night? If she’s leaving in 10 minutes, eliminate. Wait until it’s appropriate to ask these questions, but you need to know these answers before you waste too much time on her. Also, be careful to not get distracted– many girls, even those who rejected you previously, will suddenly get very friendly if they see you with another girl. If you spend too much time on these girls, you WILL screw it up with your primary mission.

Take the power position in the conversation Whoever is more physically comfortable has the power position. If she’s sitting and you’re standing or if you’re contorting your body to talk to her, she’s in the power position. You must absolutely demand (without words) to speak to her face to face, have your own space, and feel comfortable. If you’re sitting, don’t offer her the seat. Take a step back every once in a while to make her feel like she is crowding you, not the other way around. Be calm. Speak slowly. Think before you talk. Don’t get sucked into her emotional vortex.

Be the opposite of a jealous, controlling, judgmental douchebag Introduce her to all your friends and anybody else important at the bar. Introduce her to the “alpha male” of the party to show you’re not afraid of him (if she decides to fuck him, she wasn’t that into you in the first place). Be super nice to bouncers, Uber drivers, etc… If she starts being a bitch, give her a serious look and tell her “he’s just doing his job.” Random guy comes over and starts talking to her? Great, he’s now your best friend and you should try to include him in the conversation as much as you can until he freaks out by how nice you’re being and runs away. Talk to all of her friends in 1-1 conversations and compliment them. If one of them is being a bitch, ignore the bitchiness as if it doesn’t exist. Try to read her friends and see how they feel, if one is skeptical focus on him/her the most. If it looks like they will veto you, get her number and bounce.

Keep escalating emotions Humans constantly want stronger emotions. If we eat a cookie, next we want 2 cookies. Give someone a bump of cocaine, next they want 2. Etc... If you provide a flat, consistent emotional experience, she will lose interest, so you must provide stronger and stronger emotions. Human emotions are also dynamic. It doesn’t matter that you were tingling her feels at 10:00, you need to bring new tingles at 10:05. When you hit an emotional peak, say something “bond-y” (I’m glad I met you, this is such a fun night, I am so good at finding awesome people) the first time, get her number the second time, go for a kiss when it’s appropriate. Read the situation.

The man must dictate the emotional tone, but it also must match her emotions. If you don’t match her emotions, you won’t connect emotionally, but if you let her dictate the emotional tone, she is controlling the interaction and not you. Your best bet is to show her you can do any emotions she does but bigger, more pure, and more positive. Don’t bring out your weird, edgy or offensive side until she’s bought into you and knows you’re not a creeper. Say real shit to show you’re not putting on a façade (I lose my wallet all the time, etc…).

Hook her At some point in the conversation, establish that you guys are “together.” If she’s showing interest, say something like “I’m really glad I met you tonight, we are definitely going to hang out.” Don’t say anything too grand like “you’re my girlfriend now.”. After you hook, you can press the gas harder and tap the brakes more often. Depending on the situation, you may have to hook sooner – if you’re in a big group of girls and/or guys, you need to hook early.

Take the plane off, fly, and then land it Women want to fuck but are too afraid of rejection to approach guys or push the interaction, so you have to do it. You must show you are reliable and can pull off the whole process with no weirdness, awkwardness or making her feel shitty. Make her feel like the entire night is planned out and she can just stop thinking and enjoy the ride. Act like you know what you’re doing and that you’re a professional (girls say they hate players but awkward, unconfident guys are worse). Act like you know the game. Act like you don’t need to manipulate or cajole her. Think three steps ahead and have a plan for the whole night. Transition everything smoothly - if you are going to the bathroom, tell her you’ll be back (unless you need to slam the brakes for some reason). Don’t ever let her feel like you abandoned her.

Back at your place

If she’s ready to fuck, throw her on the bed and fuck her. If she needs some emotional escalation, put on a movie and cuddle up next to her. Watch enough of the movie to make her think that you might really just want to watch the movie, have some non-sexual conversation, segue to deep, emotional conversations, and then at an emotional peak, kiss her. If she’s into it, stop a few times, keep chatting, and then go for a kiss again. After two or three false starts, start undressing her and/or rubbing her pussy. Sometimes really emotionally damaged girls don’t want to kiss, but will respond if you start rubbing their pussy, so act accordingly.

If she turns you down, confidently acknowledge the situation (I sometimes jokingly say “I’ve never been turned down for sex ever”, etc…), and then do a complete 180 emotionally, changing the subject to something completely non-sex related (hey you wanna watch a cool video on Youtube?). After enough time has passed, escalate the emotions again and then when you hit an emotional peak, try again. If she turns you down 2 or 3 times give up.

If she wants to have a long conversation about whether she should or shouldn’t have sex with you don’t engage. I usually say something pithy and end it at that (“I am not going to judge you and who cares what society thinks.”). If she’s still struggling with it, tell her “I’ll give you some time to think about it” and then go back into a non-sexual, deep conversation, hit an emotional peak, and then go for it again. If she says something like “you do this to a lot of girls” give another pithy response and don’t let her dwell on it (“I am flattered you think girls want to fuck me. Not every girl makes bad decisions like you do.”).

Have your own condoms that are big enough. After you are done, dispose the condom in an environmentally-friendly way, making sure that you don't lose any jizz. Pull out if you think it may have come off.

She won’t go home with you?

Get her number. After you leave, text her something later that night like “great to meet you tonight, let’s hang soon!” Two days later, text her about some random thing you guys did or talked about, but don‘t ask her out. Two days after that, invite her out but phrase it like this “I am going to be at X place at Y time. Come join.”

Last word

All of this writing is useless. It’s all true, in my opinion, but what’s important is being there in the moment and feeling and breathing that energy. You can’t go in with a script. This is all stuff that you need to know but don’t expect it to happen overnight – you need to get caught up in the moment. But at the same time, you need to do what’s right, not necessarily what you feel.

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Title How to meet and bang a girl
Author Woujo
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Date February 21, 2017 1:25 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 189 points190 points  (46 children) | Copy Link

Don't flush condoms down the toilet dude.

[–]NotMyBestEffort181 points182 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You get twice the mileage on your condoms if you just turn them inside out and reuse them...

[–]Monsterpiece4281 points82 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's actually a good investment because after the second time you probably won't need one again for the better part of a year.

[–]IWantaPupper30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't flush lone condoms down YOUR toilet. If it's hers or someone else just wrap that bad boi in TP and let it ride.

[–]KaRzual5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck i laughed so hard after reading this, thanks

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lots of people messaged me. I don't flush condoms down toilets for two reasons. The first is that it's littering, and that's just immature. The second reason is that you could seriously clog the plumbing under whichever toilet you flush that condom down. It's a stupid idea for stupid people.

[–]Hsnbrg5017 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do plumbing, and have had to respond to cloggages, in which, 9 times out of 10, the culprit was a feminine product of some sort (tampons, feminine wipes, etc, excessive amounts of toilet paper, makeup and cosmetics being poured down the drain.). Haven't discovered a condom yet, but these people always end up being joked about for not taking common sense measures to prevent a clog.

[–]Mantas_Confid7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link


[–]ZT3V3N43 points44 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can fuck your plumbing, like tampons.

[–]gummycurly0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because there exist, albeit a few, girls who will try and intentionally get pregged.

[–]Woujo[S] 5 points6 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

What do you do with them?

[–][deleted] 84 points85 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Funny story. Moved into a place when I was 22 with a couple other guys.

Landlord was this awesome like 70 year old hippie dude.

He was like look I know you are gonna do a little partying and whatnot but that's cool just obviously don't trash stuff.

Fortunately you aren't girls though. No matter how many times I tell them I always have to end up charging them because they flush tampons and whatnot.

In fact the worst thing was the girls before you in fact the one that lived in your room. Her toilet was backing up and I had to call her parents and ask for 1500 in plumbing fees because she had flushed like 50 condoms down the toilet.

Just be smart and don't make me do that shit again.

[–]NotProgramSupervisor38 points39 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

1500 in plumbing fees because she had flushed like 50 condoms down the toilet.

50!? I wonder how the conversation with her parents went

[–]casemodsalt82 points83 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your daughter is a whore but at least she's not a dirty whore

[–]maxman57370 points71 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Tie them shut then wrap in tissues and throw in the garbage. Flushing them is bad for the sewage system and the environment

[–]Laserman42215 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Really. I thought children are bad for the environment

[–]okiedokie3217 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

a silent violin for all the would-be children out there.

[–]deville0520 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Pour hand sanitizer into it and leave it. If she puts it into her cooch, it will burn

[–]Viklove12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And it will kill the sperm...

[–]crimsonkodiak8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I just turn it inside out and give it a rinse in the sink. Then you can just wrap it in a tissue and throw it in the garbage.

I mean, you could do the hand sanitizer/bleach thing, but that seems like overkill to me.

[–]Jackrabbit7105 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your gunk isn't water soluble. It clings to hairs and other crap and eventually will also block your bath/sink drains. (Extreme cases obviously)

[–]crimsonkodiak4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh - I'm not really worried about that. I'm sure lots of the stuff that goes down my drain isn't water soluble (hair gel, all the crap women put on their skin/hair/whatever, etc.). The odds of the successive thimbles full of jizz that go down my drain actually building up and causing a problem seem infinitesimal.

And I'll take washing the condom out over either (i) looking like Mr. flipping Wizard who pulls out a bottle of bleach/hand sanitizer and mixes it into the used condom or (ii) worrying about some kid-desperate woman fishing it out of the trash and sticking me with child support payments.

Unless you're a complete degenerate, you're going to wash yourself off after sex anyway, so might as well rinse off the rubber while you're at the sink.

[–]TheSp4rk13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's really on a case by case, I try not to but when in doubt...

-> Flush the condom down the toilet - I've had girls eager to get pregnant ("oh it's so much better without a condom!" to "let's make a [XYZ ethnicity] baby it would be beautiful!"), and they get to go to the bathroom after me

[–]NotNormal218 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bring hot sauce, put some in used condom, throw in trash.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's bizarre. I mean if it's at her place fuck it. Just don't do it at yours.

[–]badchad_isglad6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Bring a plastic zip-lock bag to put it in after your done

[–]Reastruth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IF you're going to flush the condom - be sure to tie it off near the opening, so that it doesn't create a water balloon. THEN wrap it in tp and flush.

[–]FatherInTheChurch points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You're an disgusting idiot OP

[–]EpicLevelCheater[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep it civil. This is your only warning.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Destroy the evidence.

Swallow the condom.

Or hide it in the back.

If you know what I mean.

[–]Tommy_40731 points32 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Im convinced that TRP as a whole disregards this entire post due to the issue of condoms being flushed down the toilet.

Im also convinced we are more concerned with condoms down the toilet than the titled of the post, "bang a girl"😂

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha so true. I just happened to have had a funny story illustrating why you shouldn't. I guess we all got a bit carried away

[–]BabaGanoush1222 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So in other words dont break out the magnum condoms and a wad of cash?

[–]Sandman61614 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not this time, Dr. Taboggan.

[–]wazertujj1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I've heard it's more affective than the D.E.N.N.I.S system

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair73 points74 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

You can also say "bond-y" things as in "What would James Bond say?" Like if you are walking with a girl and someone tries to mug you but you disarm them and stab them with their own knife, you can look at her and say "I think he got the point"

[–]Sandman61617 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That only happens to me like, once a month, though.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Start watching stand up, you'll begin to pick up good one-liners and jokes that have been demonstrated to play well to a diverse audience

[–]matthewbroderdick points points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's hard to act like Bond when at the end of the night you take her home in your Corolla.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any car can have an ejector seat

[–]Chiptehubah17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

killer line, puns are great if you're smooth about it

[–]logicalthinker14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ehh I think of their cheesy, you need to play up the cheese so she doesn't think you actually thought it was witty. But if it's truly witty, just say it like it was no effort at all. And let the flood gates open

[–]oZeplikeo50 points51 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

This is all good stuff. Doesn't this seem like a shitload of work? I'm a student and I don't have much time to do HALF of this stuff. I suppose this is more directed at guys with 9-5 jobs that are financially stable? I guess I'm not ready for pick-up just yet.

[–]Fartfacethrowaway54 points55 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

This all takes 2-3 hours tops he's just wordy.

[–]oZeplikeo7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I guess I mean to try to remember to half of this stuff. I have so much shit on my mind.. but to be fair this is a post from someone who has perfected the game over years I am sure. So these would definitely be the IDEAL things to do. It's just a bit daunting at first glance.

[–]Chiptehubah18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

After you've experienced the emotional roller-coaster ride of engaging a woman for an evening much of this seems pretty obvious, but its fantastic to see it broken down and organized this well. Like he said, you can't go into it expecting to remember these, especially not like a checklist.

Once you develop the desired mindset it comes naturally.

[–]imn0tg00d6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not daunting. It's all a bunch of small habits that add up to the whole. It helps if you have a friend trying pickup with you, that way you can critique and push yourselves.

You guys have it lucky though. When I was learning this stuff it was new and there wasn't as much information available. All we had was the Venusian Arts Handbook and "The Game" by Neil Strauss. I learned to get over my AA by doing magic card tricks in a bar with random groups. It had the added side effect of teaching me how to control frame as well. I stopped with the card trick thing and the peacocking once I learned what I was doing of course, but it helped because it made me think of something else while I was learning game.

Fast forward about 10 years and all of those habits this guy talks about are pretty much second nature. You don't think about the steps, you've done it so many times that you just intuitively feel what the proper thing to do is.

[–]gerannu7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The Game was absolute gold back in the day. I lost count of how many times I recited 'the box' to girls in the smoking area of bars/clubs!

[–]imn0tg00d2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I still use style's kiss close from time to time.

[–]mmmoreos3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just gotta practice man. Everyone has a lot on their minds but when you want to go out and do practice and hopefully get laid you just forget about all that. Just go have fun. Like its just a new activity or hobby you're picking up.

[–]CollaterLDamage0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

its the "mystery method" in a nutshell. you can practice this at anytime.

it is recommended for people who are stable;getting your shit together should come before getting a women but that doesnt mean you dont make time for practice.

practice at work if you have to. social skills are a universally necessary trait. i can near guarantee the people you work with go out regularly.if the least you can do is make friends with everyone, then that'll help you develop stories/ a more interesting life.

[–]NihilistMonkey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a learned skill like anything else. You get better at all this shit the more you do it, until it becomes the natural way you behave.

[–]MarqueeSmyth16 points17 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Are you actually implying that students have less free time than people with 9-5 jobs?

You're due for a very unpleasant surprise.

[–]oZeplikeo7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I am a dental student, I suppose I was talking more about myself.

If I have free time I am in the library cramming.

[–]MarqueeSmyth4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It'll get worse before it gets better. A lot of people think of college as the best and happiest time of their lives, and there's a reason for that.

[–]OpenFire11 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Right? I would KILL to be in college again.

[–]thegymismysanctuary4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't. University/college means spread out and irregular class routines, a horribly slow paced and lazy mentality, constant deadlines, hand-ins and exams. Just started a graduate job in an oil refinery (office hours) and absolutely loving it, i come in, learn loads of interesting stuff, make my contribution and leave knowing the rest of the day is mine. Just my 2 cents (or pence where I come from.)

[–]OpenFire11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I preferred the varying schedule. I could also just not show up if I didn't feel like it. Deadlines are nothing. Being stuck somewhere for 8hrs straight 5 days in a row is hell. Then only having 2 days off? Yeah no thanks.

[–]palaceposy67060 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait until you hit management...

[–]FatAngryPolarBear points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Uhh.. as an engineering student with a 4.0, yep. I've done 2 work terms before. Way more free time than schooling..

[–]MarqueeSmyth2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck with that bruv. Engineering students have very little free time, that's true, but engineering jobs are like 60 - 80 hour weeks. And it doesn't come in semesters with nice breaks between them, and it doesn't end with a degree and a pat on the back, it's forever, for the rest of your life - and you may want to try to have a family and friends and a life outside of work, too.. I hope this isn't the first you're hearing of this.

[–]Woujo[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What part of it seems like work to you?

[–]RmX931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the examples you giving us.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

here's the not over thinking weirdo way to get to know women:

1) believe you can actually do it 2) try to do it 3) be genuine and listen more than you talk 4) mutual respect is key 5) either succeed or don't 6) if someone doesn't seem interested in you, say nice to meet you and walk away

people who have problems talking to girls almost all stumble on that first point. get passed that and you're probably golden. do the above things enough and eventually you'll find yourself in bed with someone you probably don't hate being around and doesn't hate being around you.

if you just want to get laid then just get some opinions on what you choose to wear if you're not confident about that and go to a bar or something.

[–]slay_it_forward1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Just be yourself bro! Bluepill faggot detected.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

that's not what I'm saying. if everyone who can't talk to girls just continued being themselves they'd get nowhere. what I'm saying is you have to cut out the nervous pathetic bullshit. nobody likes that shit. and also to not dress like a guy who says "blue pill faggot detected" probably does.

[–]techfronic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it's seriously so simple. Just be confident

[–]slay_it_forward-3 points-2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Just remember, mutual respect is key to fucking women lmfao

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

dude have you ever even left your mom's house? people like you wonder why girls don't even want to look at you. at least I know what it feels like to have someone other than an anime pillow want to spend time with me.

[–]slay_it_forward-3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Uneven pizza king alpha slayer!

[–]Scriptopeia0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I can see from my desktop here that you are one of those keyboard warriors.

[–]slay_it_forward0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

suck a dick pussy. Say that to my screen

[–]bojsihtekat points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Everything in here is good, except the flushing condoms down the toilet part. Last thing you want is to have to call a plumber (a real man) to fix your stupidity.

[–]Totsean9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

1) Lift

2) Be Social

3) Tinder / Club/ FB/ Instagram

4) Match, Talk, Message, Message, interact.

5) Meet up, Coffee shop etc

6) Take her home

7) Profit ???

That's what I do. Works well.

[–]slay_it_forward0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The best guys I've known with women didn't lift. Theory debunked!

[–]Totsean5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, lifting helps in self confidence, if you have it, you don't need to lift. It's being comfortable with your body.

[–]Warren_Bates19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sometimes really emotionally damaged girls don’t want to kiss, but will respond if you start rubbing their pussy, so act accordingly.

Also, know when to leave.

[–]Furgz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 9 days late to this thread but I had some criticism at that part. If a girl denies a kiss the first time, she's not going to accept one 10 minutes later. It's a really really good sign that you need to stop trying for the night. Maybe try once more in like half an hour. If that fails, she's obviously not into it. Also under no circumstance is it a good idea to start reaching into a persons pants if they have already denied you several kisses. That sort of stuff lands guys in trouble.

Realistically, if you're bringing a girl to your apartment alone and she isn't practically leading the way, you're in a questionable situation. The intention of going home with a girl should be clear before you decide to go there.

[–]vakamaah7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't flush lone condoms down the toilet part.

[–]variable__ points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You did it an amazing job with this man. Almost every guide I've read similar to this one during my 2 years on trp has sounded extremely douchey. This is informative and you sound like a real genuine dude. Great job

[–]killer3james7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Creepiness is emotional over investment.

Couldn't have summarised it any better.

[–]ArthurTheAstronaut11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Really enjoyed this.

Thanks for posting, OP.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot to remember but good shit

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is good post on night game and PUA skills. Good game is essential to getting laid if you are not Chad.

[–]systematicSYCO4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

dude you are thinking about this way too much. Banging girls really isnt this hard.

[–]Persaeus1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lot of great advice here; couple thoughts:

You must also speak intelligently, to overwhelm her thoughts AND emotions.

Yes, don't speak like a hood rat or a backwoods hillbilly but you can also overdo this if you're very intelligent or learned yourself. Never try to explain something technical, mechanical, etc. unless she is already an expert herself (i.e. don't talk to her like she is a dude). Be careful of using too many big words unless she is using them routinely. You want her respect; but you don't want to appear like you are trying to impress her or bore her because she has no idea WTF you're talking about.

Is she being negative? Bad mood? Being a jerk? Eliminate.

Maybe, maybe not. She might be shit testing the fuck out of you because she suddenly wants your dick; but either wants to trade paint first or is incongruent with the fact that she is married (or whatever). I have had plenty of pussy where she started off being a cunt.

[–]slay_it_forward0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Never use logic with women theory!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too much work, its much easier to make money and pay

[–]YamanekoBlues0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

how do you guys communicate that you're not gonna pay for the girls' meal/drink/whatever?

I ask the girl out, and I'd feel like an asshole if after we finished I asked her to pay for hers. I usually just pay without even noting the bill. But I'd rather save some $.

Is there a certain point I should be explicit about it?

[–]AlwaysFlank2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a lot of good stuff. Thanks for writing it out

[–]fcb982922 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is sometimes helpful to dumb down your language a bit for the sake of female conversation.

[–]Mangifera_Heyy points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I hope whoever uses those pathetic so-called guidelines never gets laid. XO, some random girl.

[–]SloppySynapses1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

sits down. backs up from you. establishes disinterest.

we're the best redditors in this comment thread

I don't care about pussy. We're definitely going to hang out again.

[–]kutwijf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yo wanna nexflix and chill?

[–]juicystick4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And remember, if you don't memorize that entire essay, there's no way in hell you'll ever get laid!! /s

[–]NotNormal22 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems complicated. I think I'll just go mgtow

[–]Mangoinhand points points [recovered] | Copy Link

The part about emotional investment is gold. Saved to my Evernote and will be reviewing all this for a while. Thanks!

[–]BiggerFrenchie0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ohh, is that all...

You guys are idiots.

[–]Durantula97 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

if its so easy how is everyone not doing it

[–]BiggerFrenchie-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Only a real tool-bag writes a 10 page essay on picking up girls. It takes a real idiot to follow the advice.

Just put your punk asses out there and you'll meet girls. God damn. Somehow men and neckbeards alike have managed since the dawn of time to reproduce.

You boneheads are fucking up the flow with this pickup culture nonsense.

[–]callienoel71 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Or you could just be yourself instead of read this dissertation and try to formulate behaviors from it. Yikes.

[–]SloppySynapses6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

it basically boils down to "be yourself and don't come off as desperate" anyway. anything that strays too far from that comes off as weird and excessively analytical/manipulative

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I really hope guys on here don't try and pretend they're someone they're not just because they read a few internet articles. Do people really need this stuff written down?

No fault with OP, but what you wrote is just stuff that happens naturally. I fear for the people who take your advice and end up behaving in a robotic manner instead of just letting things happen naturally. I suppose that's not your fault though.

[–]Sandman6165 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do people really need this stuff written down?

Do you know what sub you're in?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do. I just think some people on here over complicate this type of stuff. It comes off as a really autistic way to getting a women. Maybe some people on here need that though. SloppySynapses said it best, just be yourself and not desperate. Have the balls to approach women but don't get upset if you get rejected.

If you do this then in the long run you'll do well enough. This whole breaking things down into a formula and thinking you've the whole puzzle figured out is just such naive thinking. 'oh I forgot about rule number 4.3, that's why I couldn't close the deal.'

[–]tsirolnik0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

happens naturally

You do realize that some people got fucked up in their lives and therefore it doesn't comes naturally?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's fair enough but to be honest I wouldn't know what sort of advice to give them type of guys. I knew an autistic lad back in college and he would ask us advice on women. He literally wanted a play by play of what he needed to do from talking to her to getting her to his room and what to do then when he got her to his room. He couldn't figure out that the best way is to just play it by ear. No, he needed that instruction manual that would only be good be good in one situation and heavens forbid if the night slightly deviated from the plans he made in his own head.

Meh, I'm not hating. Some people find it difficult that others.

[–]tsirolnik0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not talking about autistic people, but rather about people who've ate shit throughout their lives and therefore lack social skills

[–]Sir_Distic0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Be yourself" is foolish (safe) beta thinking. "you're a nice guy. Don't worry. Just be yourself Billy Beta." (HOW DARE YOU TRY TO BREAK OUT OF THE BETA ROLE I PUT YOU IN. GET BACK IN YOUR PLACE.)

Don't "be yourself". Be someone who is awesome. Don't fake it, don't pretend to be someone awesome. Be it. Then women will flock to you.

[–]callienoel70 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Then in 6 months that fake persona you put on implodes because you're tired of lying to yourself/your SO and you revert back to the shit for brains who took advice from a Reddit post. But that's just a woman's opinion. sips tea

[–]zyzzguido550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not fake if you become it. There's no such thing as a fake persona as well because in essence everyones playing a game so in that sense, everyone is fake.

[–]trapaik1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn I already do a lot of this but awesome to have it all written down, thanks op.

[–]Zaerx1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You knew you may or may not get any direct benefit back to yourself by sharing your thoughts. You didn't mind, and you did it anyway.

It may not seem like it sometimes, but people take notice.

[–]TheSp4rk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Woujo, thanks for a great helpful post that encompasses much of a date from the approach to the close - it felt fresh/natural/honest in its push/pull + methods + examples.

In the Last word paragraph, what do you mean "do what's right, not necessarily what you feel."?

[–]empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is self depreciation good? I love Conan and have great self depreciation game but as soon as I found TRP I realised it doesn't work for me and saw a lot of my past mistakes.

Self depreciation might work but you have to be simultaneously pulling it off with some serious background confidence to subtly negate it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well how do you become the "alpha male" of the party?

[–]ChromeJester0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't say anything grand like "you're my girlfriend now"

I don't know why I find this so funny

[–]tolerantman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

1.Be rich 2.Be famous 3.Be good looking 4.Say "hi, wanna fuck?"

[–]killa_beez4200 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Only compliment her if she did something actually objectively impressive and you are actually impressed"

"Ask her what she’s doing at the bar, give her a compliment"

Pretty much sums up this wordy ass manifesto

[–]Woujo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No I don't think that's an accurate summary.

[–]lucasappo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

did all of this on one girl, now she is obsessed by me

[–]LostAnimalSpirit0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

While reading this I went back to so many nights out when I was in the moment and following all your advice unconsciously. Yet for some reason, there will always be a time that I will need to read something like this as a reminder. Any idea why this is?
Thank you for this amazing post.

[–]Woujo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

because a lot of this is counterintuitive and not what you would want to "naturally" do. That's the whole reason for writing it down.

[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

People - always, always, always, flush condoms down the toilet when you've fucked a girl and its not at your place. Wrap toilet paper around it, and the sewage system will treat it like typical human waste.

The reason why you flush it is because you dont want to get sperm jacked which happens pretty frequently. Remember - we are talking about a society where there is a thriving black market for positive pregnancy tests or where there are commercials on tv raving about people who poke holes in condoms.

People say that its bad for the environment? Wanna know whats worse? Adding another person to the already overpopulated planet. Always look out for numero uno

[–]Metrack0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great post, many good advices with explanations but still I have a question. What do you advice when I don't have a place for easy fuck close, because I'm living with parents?

[–]realslimshady19960 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now all i need is a guide on how to let them hoes stick 'em on the other hole

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Two, three short stories that are funny, the more self-deprecating the better.

This is where I stopped reading. Self deprecation is beta game

[–]Woujo[S] 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Being afraid to say anything self-deprecating about yourself is the sign of an insecure douche.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sure. But relying heavily on self deprecation is the sign of a beta bitch. This is a site full of betas trying to reform and a few successfully reformed betas, the last thing they need to be told is "the more self deprecation the better"

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent point. There's a balance and of course there's levels to this shit.

But overall I agree with you.

Self-deprecation should never be relied on but it also shouldn't be feared.

[–]Woujo[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

This post isn't supposed to be training wheels for betas. It is designed to be the overall "right" thing to do, so I am assuming you are coming into it acting alpha.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am assuming you are coming into it acting alpha.

Are you kidding? The post is called "how to meet and bang a girl," and it entails the most basic game that could only be described as training wheels for betas. Why would anyone who acts alpha be reading this? Other than the 20% of guys who actually manage to reform their beta ways, the demographic of TRP is not alpha males

[–]benzguy19720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been binging on the Youtube pranksters JStu & Big Daws for the last week or so. They aren't afraid of self-deprecating. I would say that 75% (give or take) of the girls they approach are super receptive. All it takes is walking up to a girl and saying "Hello". It also helps if you don't look homeless.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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