I quit my job teaching yesterday. Without leadership or integrity, mediocrity rises to the top.

April 6, 2018

Context. Been a teacher for 6 years. Very well paying job, and making 20% on top of my base because I’ve been able to teach an extra class after school. I teach art, love what I do, practice what I do.

The catalyst. I found out that there was another teacher complaining about how it is not fair that I teach an extra class and other teachers don’t. Not once has this teacher asked if she could teach an extra class (she won’t because she’s a mean cunt), and instead of minding her own business, she tried to throw a monkey wrench on my after school art class. A class that i didn’t ask for, but was offered because I will teach any kid that comes my way how to draw, color, paint, etc. Enough kids were hanging around my classroom after school so the position was tailored made for me.

Either way, the dumb cunt made enough stink that the principal had to go scramble and find another teacher who she could offer an extra class to teach, surprise, only one other teacher took it. My problem is that here is a villian in the school trying to undermine all that is good simply because that bitch is angry at her life. She is old, rotten, ugly and her husband is always out of town working on some aerospace project.

But that isn’t what got to me. I find out through someone else what had happened, and not once did the principal say, “hey bitch, leave notadaddy alone and mind your own business.” The school system as is caves in to these horrible teachers, and not only that, but they cannot be fired.


The P.E. Coaches? Fat ass slobs

Science Teachers: Bouncing between social science and other subject matters to see what they like to teach.

The adults in the school are not human. they are subhuman, modeling piss poor behavior for the young. i’m the oddball teacher for wanting to bring back the pull-up bars back but can’t because “kids hurt themselves” and the adults with shitty builds and shitty work ethics knowingly pull these kids to the bottom.

For the last few months, something had been bothering me, and that was affecting me at home a bit. I am still on my journey, but I had made so much progress that I need to get rid of anything that will get in my way. The job was getting to me. Mediocrity was starting to rub off on me. I could totally have skated on my job for the rest of the year, because i know I could get away with it. Once I realized that this job wouldn’t care if I was a good teacher or not, it was time to leave.

I went to the district office and asked to speak to HR. No one was available so I left a note with the words “I QUIT” and my name on the bottom. 5 minutes later I get a call from the superintendent, all nice and wondering what went wrong. This is the same superintendent the my principal is afraid of and always trying to please.


Principals today are in the business of pleaseing everybody, the gays, the non-English speaking kids, the free lunches that end up in the trash, the teachers that stonewall any idea that requires cooperation, etc, that at the end of the day, there is no academic culture in schools. Just kissing ass to the vocal minorities and destroying standards, expectations and making everyone believe we are perfect just the way we are...and don’t get me starting how fat acceptance has doomed lil girls and boys futures by accepting their shittiness.

I did my best teaching, nothing more nothing less than what I could give. My competence however, was often mistaken for kissing ass simply because I was able to get what I wanted for my classroom by keeping my principal updated on what I am doing with the students.

Okay, I guess this turned into a rant? Here’s a drawing I made on some letterhead owned by Albert Einstein. In this letter, Albert Einstein formally warned the House Committee on Un-American Activities that he will not participate in their witch hunts and name names. Anything can be art, so I drew on it:


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Title I quit my job teaching yesterday. Without leadership or integrity, mediocrity rises to the top.
Author notadaddy
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Date April 6, 2018 12:00 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost349 points350 points  (50 children) | Copy Link

All too true, the leadership has no backbone. Last year my former principal was accused by a well known whore for allegedly saying “You make me feel like a dirty old man.” What a fucking obviously made up line, but that doesn’t matter to these people. Suspended then fired within 3 weeks. Later last year another man (A daily substitute) was fired because he called a girl “sweetheart”. This old man was the most endearing human I have ever met, and called everyone sweetheart or lad. Doesn’t matter. Fired.

[–][deleted] 99 points100 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

What? Any more context on that sweetheart story? Thats scary and hard to believe. How can you protect yourself from that?

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost185 points186 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Here’s an excerpt from a petition on change.org to bring him back

“He is one of the kindest people you will ever meet on this planet, and commonly addresses all students as “darling” “sweetie” and “beautiful”. He also will commonly address his classes as “my beautiful children”. Unfortunately a student(s) have complained about these comments because of their “sexual” intent. I know [the man accused] and his family personally and can vouch that that was not his intent, that is truly how he greets everyone he knows, with kindness and respect. “

After reading the petition turns out they hired him back. He was just suspended for awhile.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler189 points190 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

After reading the petition turns out they hired him back. He was just suspended for awhile.

He will not come back as the same man. His love for the craft is tainted. He will either be repulsed or afraid.

Edit: typo

[–]GearGolemTMF96 points97 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like what happened to a driver at work (UPS). This was before I got there, but apparently he was just doing a routine delivery to a company. He got into the elevator and a lady enter on another floor. He simply spoke saying “Hi how are you?” She said nothing then when he returned to the building, he learned that she tried to call sexual harassment which by company protocol meant they had to fire him. Luckily he got his job back but now he doesn’t even speak when working outside the building. Sad cause he’s a very friendly guy.

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost63 points64 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Billy Graham had a policy that he would never be alone with a woman other than his wife, not even riding an elevator with a lone woman. This is exactly why.

[–]askmrcia16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Something kind of related. I remember on ESPN first take a couple of years ago one of the female host on there was ranting about some of the male guest referring to her as "sweetheart."

She mentioned how it bothered her and said it wasn't right because the guest never referred to her male co-workers in that term.

[–]CodeOverflow2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You become an asshole yourself.

Keep words to a minimum, offer no special favours, be polite only the bare minimum needed.

I barely say good morning to 50% of the people I work with, and only ever "hang out" with no more than 7-8 there (which are all people I have a friendship outside work). Other than that, no room for those kinds of things to ever happen.

Can't be accused of harassment if you don't relate to any of them.

[–]BluepillProfessor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What a sad world we have created. This is not going to turn out all right.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Kill or crush whoever is trying to ruin your reputation. Crush them completely and with no mercy

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

All of these examples share a common denominator: females swinging power recklessly at males, and getting their way.

It will become increasingly important for men, white straight men in particular, to acquire valuable skill sets to leverage in the workplace. skills that demand respect.

[–]BigMawsmidget13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I keep telling people this is strictly a gender issue for us all. Just because the news brain washes most believe me the rest of us males are having a tough go with you as well.

[–]Alathon16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Such a strategy presumes rational actors who will not abandon a highly skilled and competent individual when challenged socially. Such a situation cannot be assumed, as demonstrated repeatedly in the examples discussed in this thread.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to go into education, and loved STEM studies as a kid. one semester at college, and 8 months working (shipping and receiving, hired in for head honcho, he was out for heart surgery) and after seeing the antics of post wall hag manipulations, and office mentality in general, I went into carpentry, and stuck with it. very RP culture, in general, and wimmenz don't even factor into my workday. graduated to running my own company, still had to learn basic game in sales, because homeowner wives/daughter still try and pull shit test stunts, however, their opinions and dollars hold little to no sway over my day. I went full "office space mode" and haven't had a case of the Mondays since. don't get me started on Angie's List and their target demographic, though. the commercials are like blue pill/post wall hag handbook shudders

[–]Shieldless_One3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not only that, but part of the problem with these types of women is they are dealing with guys that don’t know how to stand up to them!

Part of the problem is that the vast majority of men just can’t say no to women whether hot or ugly.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

acquire valuable skill sets to leverage in the workplace. skills that demand respect.

Companies are too fearful of pissing somebody off and losing money, to them having access to money ensures that they will fire you.

[–]Orig_analUse_rname0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why white? You guys get the most pussy. I don't ever get this line of thinking.

[–]the_mountains198512 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The exact same situation happened to my dad. Although it was for different circumstances....he was fired for basically being too conservative and wouldn't curtail the school to please everyone.

[–]leviathan5110 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

What country are you from? Here in central Europe, anything like this would be laughed at.

I'm actually really indecisive whether I want to pursue a degree in a top american university or stay here, because frankly, how you guys paint this SJW and liberalism thing, it goes way beyond what could be considered even remotely healthy.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What country are you from? Here in central Europe, anything like this would be laughed at.

Sounds like North America. Same shit in both Canada and US. In Eastern Europe, shit like this would get you laughed out of the school.

Central Europe seems to keep a good head on its shoulder - judging how SJWs could not shame a Czech video game company for making a medieval game without black people in it. The company older essentially told them to fuck off.

top american university or stay here, because frankly, how you guys paint this SJW and liberalism thing, it goes way beyond what could be considered even remotely healthy.

Depends on what it is. If medicine/medically related US/China are the places to be. If not, Europe is better.

[–]leviathan510 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The thing is, salary in the top positions in the US economy is like 10x higher than here in Czech Republic. I would kinda love American career opportunities, but to be able to keep sane view of the world.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because salary is higher in the US expenses are proportionally higher.

[–]warburgio1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What country are you from? Here in central Europe, anything like this would be laughed at.

I'm actually really indecisive whether I want to pursue a degree in a top american university or stay here, because frankly, how you guys paint this SJW and liberalism thing, it goes way beyond what could

I moved from Poland to study in the UK. Sickle and hammer posters on the walls, sjw and liberalism all the way here.

[–]scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should still apply because a degree from one of those schools can be a golden ticket. You can avoid the SJW bullshit. It’ll disgust you but it doesn’t have to ruin your life there.

[–]Sophisticated_Sloth0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Your country sounds like heaven right now. Can you expand a bit on where you are? I know it's a lot to ask for, but I'm desperately looking to leave Scandinavia.

[–]leviathan512 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not a problem, really. I'm from Czech Republic, and whether we like it or not, our culture is very similar to other slavic nations, especially the Russia.

The country is transforming towards liberalism, especially the young ones, but you can openly hate other races or muslims, without anyone arresting you (except only going to a cop and telling him something hateful towards gypsies). In fact, there's a new political party that actually got over 10% votes in the last election, that is openly neo-nazi and neo-fascist.

I have heard the immigration problem in the Scandinavia is unbearable right now. Is it really so bad? As well as that brainwashing liberalism...

[–]Sophisticated_Sloth0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, cool! I spent a week in Prague a couple of years ago. Beautiful city, beautiful women, great food and beer. I'd love to go back sometime.

Dude, it sounds like a great place to be. Especially compared to Denmark and its neighbouring countries right now. I'm not sure how bad immigration is here (I don't keep up with pop media and am really just trying to focus on myself at the moment), but I know it's insane in Sweden, which has turned into a giant beta shit hole. I'm not really seeing a lot of immigration related issues here in Denmark, but everything related to hating on the straight, white male is steadily growing. Think "racism against whites doesn't exist and is impossible", "it's perfectly normal to not have a gender", "white males are dangerously privileged" etc etc.

That's pretty fucking bad here, especially on social media.

[–]leviathan510 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't see this here, yet. The thing is, we aren't a wealthy country, and that bothers me the most. I want to make some hard cash in my life, but it's damn nearly impossible with salaries like here. Yes, the food and things is also way cheaper, but if I would be to move somewhere, suddenly I have nothing, as opposed to moving back from somewhere.

It also depends on whether this propaganda, like you depicted it in the last two lines, is just TV & ads, or whether (and this is way, way more dangerous) most people around you share this sentiment. Because if they do, it becomes the new norm and slowly starts to mold the mind. And even if you keep the sane outlook of the world, in the very least you become apathetic and agreeing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what about running a business? If salaries are low, it should be a desirable place to start a business enterprise. Why don't people in Central Europe just do what the Chinese did when they were poor, and just start relentlessly knocking off American brands?

[–]cesar-perez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It all depends on the school. Most campuses are pretty reasonable and this whole crisis isn't something you'd see leak into other domains.

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m in the USA, but I wouldn’t let this kind of thing stop you from pursuing something like that. It’s easy to get this doom and gloom impression about the current state of America from reading things online, but as long as you keep your interactions with females in the workplace public, minimal, and absurdly professional, as well as saving any opinion that’s right of Karl Marx for outside of work, you’ll be fine.

[–]leviathan510 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

keep your interactions with females in the workplace public

Can I game women on a campus without fearing a false rape accusation in the US?

[–]Johnny-Thunderfrost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Virtually every girl I game goes to the university in my town and I’ve never had any problems. I audio record all sexual encounters just to be safe though. Some things in women to avoid in the USA would be: unnaturally dyed hair, hair shorter than shoulders, septum piercings, and saying anything about the patriarchy.

[–]blister3338 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

To counter this, I had a middle school teacher (remember this is 13 year olds) who routinely ogled the girls in the class. Said some pretty borderline stuff over the years too from what I’ve heard (again mostly rumors). A few years back he got essentially a slap on the wrist for saying something really inappropriate to a girl. I’m assuming the power of tenure and/or being in a strong union saved his ass.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've had a jacked high school gym teachers sleeping with the hot 17/18 year old girls at my school. But they offered themselves to him and he just accepted. He's still trucking just fine lol.

[–]djexit2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

seems like they dont wanna pay retirement is what it seems like to me

[–][deleted] 374 points375 points  (89 children) | Copy Link

I believe you scraped the surface of a cultural problem in the western world.

  • The education system is largely filled with glorified babysitters and politicized administration.

  • The average child deserves better.

  • Educational budgets and the entire education system needs to be completely redrawn.

  • Every hierarchy filled with women will create unnecessary hurdles that have nothing to do with the original goals and team mission, but rather their own personal issues being injected like a cancer which disrupt the systematic process and team morale.

Best of luck in your next career search or whatever education institution you might work at next.

[–]CursingWhileNursing269 points270 points 2 (69 children) | Copy Link

I believe you scraped the surface of a cultural problem in the western world.

And this problem is running much, much deeper. It's not just the educational system, our society is rotten to the core and these are the symptoms. I see it every day at work.

German male nurse here. I see things going downhill on a broad scale and on a daily basis. Our medical system is going to hell. It's all about the money, it's all about making money. Either for the people who like to call themselfes "elites" or for the freeloaders we let invade our country.

Just this year, our government passed a law in a cloak and dagger operation that allows them to transfer 1.5 billion Euro from the liquidity reserves of german health insurance funds to pay for the health care of immigrants. This year. And I have worked with a lot of those immigrants who spend their time on my ward smoking in the stairwell, refusing to get touched by female staff (Being the only male nurse, I was actually forced to make double shifts because of those fuckers), watching beheading videos on their new expensive smart phones and going into the city. While they were quarantined, because they were treated for active tuberculosis. God knows how many people they have infected. And they were learning their first german sentences: "I need more money!" and "You are a nazi!"

Oh, by the way - to treat a single person with an active tuberculosis costs between 500.000 and 1.5 million Euro. But who cares.

All while the staff is falling apart. I have 60+ overtime hours that will not get payed and which I can never use up. And at some point there is a deadline, my overtime account will be zero-ed and the world is okay again. Just those days I had to realise that my employer somehow "forgot" to register 20 overtime hourse...

Right now, we have 29 patients on my radio-oncology. People in need of intensive care and many of them premortal. And in our night shifts, we are alone with those 29 patients. The workload is so high that none of us brings something to eat anymore, in my last night shift I had not even the time to drink something.

But hey, the morning shift is lucky, they have two nurses!

Oh, and did I mention that we get payed 10% below tariff, that the goal of my employer is to pay -15% and that my hospital is property of my city and my socialist major is member of the supervisory board? No problem with exploitating people, even when you're a fucking socialist, as long as you only exploit evil germans, right?

I have a muslim ward physician who engages in ramadan. The idiot not only does not eat, he also does not drink for the whole day. Last June was a hot month and at the end of the day, he was stumbling through my ward like a fucking zombie, unable to make life-and-death decisions with a clear mind.

I should say something. I won't. I am already the winner of a disciplinatory warning for "hatespeech". One more of these means immediately being given the sack. Why I got this? Well, a female co-worker had a beef with me, but instead of talking this out with me, she continued to smile into my face, walk to my boss and anonymously denounce me.

She took 8 words out of a multi-sentenced statement that was quite the fucking opposite of "hatespeech". Even my spineless asshole of a boss had to admit that no, this was not hatespeech, but since my anonymous denouncer felt it was, I still needed to be punished.

It was a fucking drumhead trial, no right to defend myself, no right to even consider what is happening. I was summoned to my boss and completely overrun with no warning or time to think. My boss even held a little speech that in the near future in this country a lot of things will change for people like me.

I am sick of this shit. I am sick of patients getting treated like shit, I am sick of going home unhappy because of this. I am sick of being treated like shit myself.

I am tired of lying women and of gynocentric employers.

I am sick of my government pissing away my money by giving it to people with no skills, no respect and no culture and I am sick and tired of being the bad boy for calling this out.

Fuck, this turned into quite some rant...

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

That 'rant' earned some gold from me.

Thanks for unveiling a bit of the German Healthcare system for all of us. Sounds like those compassionate socialists aren't so compassionate when it comes to other peoples labor just as history has taught us. It's always been about the money, hence why they're importing the new welfare class in droves. Germany needs Arminius once more.

[–]CursingWhileNursing6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

To be more precise, it's about other peoples money.

And thanks a lot for the Gold. My first Reddit gold, woohoo! :)

[–]Voynich-Manuscript12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

As The Futurist / Singularity2050 said, money is the biggest target of socialist “inequality” bullshit because it’s easy to forcibly redistribute. Meanwhile it’s very difficult to forcibly redistribute beauty and health, so people focus on destroying them instead (Fat acceptance, destroying healthcare, promoting harmful environments and lifestyles...).

The noble goal of achieving perfect equality in misery.

[–]CursingWhileNursing7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

And I simply love their usual reaction when you point out that communism/socialism never worked in the past. Because the idea itself is deeply flawed and because Marx had no fucking idea about human nature. I mean, this is the very reason for the post-modernist bullshit the Frankfurt School puked out (fuck Adorno, btw!).

Nooo, you can't say that, because there were still capitalist forces that had an influence from the outside, blablaaa...

Yeah, sure honey. Are you trying to tell me in order to heal the damaged kidneys, we have to flatline the whole patient, but when we resurrect him, boy, will he be young and healthy again?

[–]BluepillProfessor6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The Marxists entire plan is destruction of the Capitalists and private property. After that Marx had no idea and the best they have done is Leninism (thus Marxism/Leninism) of expanding on the "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" in which a prison State is imposed and MILLIONS inevitably die of starvation- often large numbers of the very lower class supporters of the movement from the beginning.

Ask any Marxist how the world will work after the revolution and they will have not a single clue for making it work. They might talk about peace and harmony and doing your own thing but then ask them how will commerce work? How will goods get transported? Who will pay the workers? They always say THE GOVERNMENT.

I always say OK, right now we govern access to good and services by price and income. Who is going to sit on the government board that determines what you get and what you don't get? Who decides where you work and how you are compensated?

They don't know. They NEVER know. These academics ignore history and take a system that has failed about 70 out of 70 times it was tried and insist that THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT. I think they expect the Star Trek Replicators to just produce whatever we need so they don't have to work.

[–]CursingWhileNursing3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They might talk about peace and harmony and doing your own thing but then ask them how will commerce work? How will goods get transported? Who will pay the workers?

Not too long ago I had a discussion along those lines with a self-proclaimed anarchist. He never got tired to use the single one existent somewhat working anarchy in history, namely anarchist communities that existed in Spain from 1935 to 1939. He never got tired to tell me how well things worked out there and how that one factory that produced trains, if I recall correctly, had a higher productivity than before the anarchist takeover.

Yeah, what a feat. Four years prove nothing. And they had a head start, because they could use an existing infrastructure and a factory that was already in use. And we are talking about a very small region. I want to see what happens when you need a highway across the country and 20.000 communities need to talk this out and coordinate that effort...

And I was born and grew up in the GDR, I know how ineffective a planned economy is. Every day you can read "5 year plan overfulfilled" in the newspaper and then you go out and buy a carburator for a moped. Not because you need it, but because it was just available at the store and you know you can barter with that guy who needs a carburator, but has a sink. You know your neighbour needs a sink and he has that typewriter you need. Yeah, command economy is such a beautiful thing.

Also, has anyone of those morons ever thought about the true meaning of "dictatorship of the proletariat"? Do they know how the fuck it feels to be told "Yeah, we know you want to be a doctor. But both your parents are intellectuals already and we can't have families of intellectuals. No universities for you, punk!"

And that asshole Marx... sure, a man who preaches communism and material austerity, but has no problems whatsoever to get his lazy lifestyle funded by his capitalist friend Engels (who never even wasted a though about giving his factories to his workers and never got tired of complaining how hard and constrictive the life of a rich capitalist is) is utterly convincing. Sure.

In that regard, Marx was very much alike his modern disciples. Pretty much all of them sit in an ivory tower, get payed for doing utterly unproductive things by people they look down to and frown on, while telling the people who work and pay for them what they do wrong and what they should do better. Idiots who have no idea how the real world works, but declare they have the plan how to improve it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every socialist has huge personal problems that they try to deny by finding an outward solution for it. ''No what doesn't need to change is me. No it is society that has to change'' It is the ultimate form of cognitive dissonance one can have. Karl Marx is the prime example. He never ever visited a factory, was a hugely egoistical and arrogant man who wasted money like water on pretending to live like an aristocrat. Does he try to change his habits, when he sees his family starving? No projects his problems by inventing an ideology that provides the abolition of money, while pretending like he was a genius for making it up. If you look closely to many socialists, psychologically they are all the same. They all claim to care about all kinds of world issues. But what they really want is money, power, and the fame of being regarded like some Messiah. This always reminds me of a book called "The quiet American'' it is about some do gooder CIA agent in French Indochina. Who beliefs that he is really helping the Vietnamese by invoking terror attacks in order to promote democracy. But all he really wants is to become a hero and for that many innocents die. The protagonists can't talk him out of it. And sees that the only solution to ending his madness is by putting a bullet in him.

Sad that Germany has gone from one extreme into another.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

It’s truly disgusting what the leaders of your European countries are doing to the longevity of their citizens, UK included. I’m sorry this is happening to you, but I foresee a large backlash in the near future from your citizens

[–]CursingWhileNursing19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

True. When I speak with people, a lot of people are angry and feel betrayed. Under the covet, it's boiling everywhere. I mean, officially no one voted for the AfD, the conservative party that is shunned by government and media as "nazis", but latest polls say if tomorrow were elections, they would get 15% of all votes. While the SPD is down to 16%.

But then again, I wonder how high the threshold for frustration for a lot of germans apparently is. Berlin for instance is falling apart. It's like a failing country in miniature and people there are still quite.

But sooner or later things will get ugly, I can tell you that.

[–]Voynich-Manuscript4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I yet have to meet an economically independent German that supports the current government agenda.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can’t really put my finger on the name, but didn’t an anti-migration party pop up in the last year or so and won a favorable percentage of the last election? I honesty hope a violent backlash occurs. We have had the same ordeal with illegal Mexicans in the states, and hopefully Trump does something about it.

[–]CursingWhileNursing3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's the AfD, die "Alternative für Deutschland" / the "Alternative for Germany", which is a direct side blow against Merkels perpetual "There is simply no alternative for our politics".

Founded in Februare 2013 and voted into 14 federate state parliaments since then. According to the latest polls, they now have 15% of all votes, while the SPD; the big winner of the new coalition with Merkels CDU has reached an all time low of 16%.

Their party manifesto is pretty much the manifesto of Merkels CDU from 20 years ago, they simply pick up the conservative people that are left behind by the more and more socialist and pro-european CDU.

[–]cirrusice0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Germany is run by the jewish elite. None of this matters.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

but I foresee a large backlash in the near future from your citizens

Not going to happen for multiple reasons. First is that the governments of those countries have used American methods of pacifying the population so that revolt never enters the heads of their constituents. Secondly, being part of NATO (essentially nations conquered by America) means none of the nations have their own free will to do as they please. Even if there is backlash, things would quickly return to the way they were because the US cannot have any dissent in its occupied territories - US power rests on this premise.

[–]SeventhDurandal16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure you have good reasons, but I'd like to hear them. Why don't you quit and find work in the private sector? I know male nurses are in huge demand here in the US.

[–]Useonceandthrowaway28 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not the OP. But my first guess would be getting a green card and such.

[–]SeventhDurandal11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I should have clarified, I didn't necessarily mean work in the US. Just comparing the US market.

[–]CursingWhileNursing8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is that it's the same everywhere. And although my city is the biggest shareholder of my hospital, we are private sector. I've looked around in a lot of hospitals, talked with people working there and it's pretty much the same mess.

[–]Captain_Save_A_Hoe_-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would a German want to assimilate himself with Americans?

[–]SeventhDurandal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not what I was implying, just comparing the market for male nurses.

[–]samuelnine30 points31 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Kinda related on the tuberculosis thing. Here in Norway, all children get a vaccine against TB at the age of 13. Well, they are supposed to get it, at least. My youngest sister did not get it and thats about 2 or 3 years ago now. Why, you ask? All available vaccines are given to asylumseekers and refugees, and the stock simply ran out for regular norwegian children, because fuck them I guess.

A lot of germans work in the health care service here in norway by the way. You would get paid a lot more (yeah, a lot) than you are earning now, and the language is not hard to learn for germans.

[–]CursingWhileNursing9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The same happened here in Germany with the flu vaccine. The healthcare services ran out of vaccine, because the authorities handed out most of the reserves to immigrants.

[–]samuelnine1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The flu vaccines are like playing the lottery anyway. They just throw in a bunch of strains and pray that they included the one big flu strain that is coming. Last year they missed big time.

[–]CursingWhileNursing3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely. But while the media was telling a quite different story, people in the medical field knew that the only vaccine that had some effect was the fourfold vaccine, while the threefold vaccine was more of a placebo. And our government gave most of the fourfold vaccine to immigrants while even our hospital personal got the fourfold vaccine. What a bloody joke.

[–]Deus_es1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You just need enough people on it. If it's 30% effective but the whole population is on it it works ALOT better, unfortunatly people don't tend to get the flu vaccine.

[–]IndianChad9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If your a norgie, living with other normal norgies and not refs and asylum seekers, your pretty much protected from TB via Herd immunity. It's better that the BCG vaccines go to the refs and their kids as they have severely increased risk factors due to multiple exposures (3rd world, living with other refs, ref camps) . Treating them will decrease the overall transmission rate.

[–]samuelnine4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point. Please hold on while I inform them that they have to be extra coutious if they want to travel abroad in the future, or simply interact with other human beings of a different ethnicity.

[–]IndianChad-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Kek complaining about free healthcare vaccines, when 85% of all new TB cases (340/400) in Norway per year are from immigrants, their children and almost all cases are in areas of Oslo. Just so you know Sven, the vaccine doesn't offer full protection. The vaccine isn't proven to be effective in adults. Once you have TB, there's no point in the vaccination. You already have the antibodies to suppress severe TB, unless you become immunocompromised.

It protects you from very severe TB(disseminated TB, TB meningitis, both are incredibly lethal). It's primarily to protect high risk babies and children because they have weaker immune systems and can't contain the infection.

Regardless of TB vaccination status, if exposed to TB secretions any person can develop mild pulmonary TB. High risk in Norway being immigrant children living with TB close contacts/asylum seekers, all healthcare and at risk social workers, and people travelling to endemic areas (India, china, North Africa) for greater the 3 months and if you live in a certain part of Oslo.

Common sense to anyone that's backpacked to a 3rd world country. Stay away from sick people and people with nasty wet coughs.

If you wanna discuss real problems in Norway, we should look at the prevalence of TB in nonimmigrant groups. Where high risks are IV opioid and amphetamine drug abusers. Also the incidence of alcohol related injuries and the projected health care costs and the cost of opioid addiction and overdose.

[–]CursingWhileNursing1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And it is a crime this is not discussed more in public. This has nothing to do with blaming immigrants, this is a question of reason and public health.

The number of people coming to Europe while carrying diseases is incredibly high. It's just what will happen when you come from a shithole with no healthcare system. But of course, being member of an ideology that openly rejects vaccinations as haram and evil western magic plays a huge part in this as well. There is a reason Polio and smallpox raise their ugly head again - and that this happens in countries that reject vaccinations and where people promoting vaccinations get killed on a regular base.

Just those days there was a report on german television that scabies has become a rampant problem again here in Germany over the course of the last couple of years. But did they talk, about why that is? No, of course not. In this regard this is quite similar to what happened in Britain with those pakistani child grooming gangs. Everyone knew what was going on, but authorities chose to willingly ignore everything that happened and to even blame the victims, out of fear of being called "racist".

The problem is, with diseases like tuberculosis, we are not talking about 100 or 1.000 victims, we are talking about hundrets of thousands of people becoming victims.

And we should talk about the costs as well. Treading one case of tuberculosis costs between 500.000 and 1.5 million Euro. And then we have not even talked about immigrants giving a fuck. As I have said, a lot of the immigrants on my ward knew very well that they were only allowed to leave the station with a filter mask and should not leave the property of the hospital. And when I went to work, I've had to watch them climbing out of busses coming from the city, without their masks, many times. We even had some of them getting rounded up and arrested by the police on the city festival, where they probably have infected a shitload of people. And I don't eat a lot of kebab anymore, because I know how many kebab houses in town employ people I have seen on my ward...

A lot of those people seem to use their diseases as a weapon and we direly need to talk about this.

[–]IndianChad-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You sound a tad bit delusional dude. I'm not disagreeing with the costs, or that immigrants are dirty disease carriers. I do think public health awareness should be made a priority. It's sad that the media is suppressing health issues in the immigrant crisis in fear of politically correct backlash. If you look at any mass migration of refugees in past history (Jews, India 1947, Russian afghanistan, American Vietnam) you see that infectious disease prevalence in these populations run really high due to overcrowded camps, poor education and lack of awareness and sanitation but eventually over time, the sick die out, infectious disease protocol and awareness, sanitation spread. As the living conditions of the refugees improve the overall infectious disease prevalence decreases and eventually stabilizes to that of the normal population. A spiked upward curve with a downward slope. Instead of ranting about dumb dirty disease ridden immigrants, efforts should be taken into assimilating the younger new generation, targeting local mosques and spreading health and sanitation awareness. All people of any culture can be socially rehabilitated. It just takes effort, time and money. I really only see two options. It's either you work as a society to normalize them into western culture or you dues vault them into the next crusade, genocide and war.

[–]VirtuosicElevator11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Germany is so fucked. I’m so sorry. I always think about how it is to be level headed in a country like this and you can’t do anything to stop the madness. Good luck

[–]CursingWhileNursing10 points11 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I am in my 40s now and I don't really give a shit anymore. But I have a little niece and a nephew and it breakes my heart when I contemplate what kind of country we will left for them.

[–]VirtuosicElevator9 points10 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

And I’m sure they are being constantly brainwashed in school. It’s happening in the US but not at the rate you’re experiencing. I’d be pulling my hair out

[–]CursingWhileNursing10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the way people here are still indoctrinated is unbelievable. I had a discussion with a co-worker not too long ago about the AfD, the conservative party that gets shamed as "nazis" by most parties and the media.

I did not even mention that I would vote for them myself. I did not even defend their position. I was simply stating that I can understand the reasons and motivations of people voting for them. I could not even finish my statement, because what happened next was like... I don't know... one of those scifi movies where brain slugs are eating peoples brains.

He got this glassy look and started to rattle off a little speech. "Never again war shall start from german soil..." It was actually fucking scary, I felt like I was back in the GDR; watching one of those many little flag ceremonies we had in school. This idiot actually seems to think when the AfD becomes a governing party, next thing that would happen is Germany invading Poland again.

Ha, as if this would be possible. Our SPD government has done everything to ruin our military. Right now we have less than 100 tanks that are operational, we have 6 submarines with none of them operational and the Bundeswehr just ran out of MREs. We invade nothing, because that would require a functional military...

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

, next thing that would happen is Germany invading Poland again.

Nothing wrong with that, tbh.

[–]CursingWhileNursing2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, we could get all our cars back, I guess...

But to be honest, right now I would rather join forces with eastern european countries like Poland, to be honest. They are the ones who show some bloody spine at the moment and give Merkel and the european beaurocrates the middle finger.

[–]warburgio1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

With that attitude ill invade ur mum.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

she said you tried but failed so she was forced to invade your butthole

[–]liteTheNite 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow, this thread managed to give me some new epiphanies.

Had a bunch of thoughts regarding OP's post and these replies. I'll try to be more coherent after listing the sporadic ideas that came to mind:

  • Perhaps the decline happens, because lack of necessity means a lack of pressures that force the creation/cultivation of leaders, and thus, a lack of useful masculine energy.
  • But what would prevent people from successfully executing feminine-psychopathic-strategy (as per OP's post) in the workplace (CF. https://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2018/03/31/big-reputation-the-mark-of-the-beast-macho-subordinacy-and-the-masculine-fourth-turning/)
  • Perhaps a solution to lies, and psychopathic-reputation-destruction strategy is credibility.
  • If you want to be heard, you need credibility. it can't be outsourced to institutions, etc.
  • We don't have credibility in our organizational systems because we outsource some of these things to the systems. So we're more prone to believe claims from randoms because we have no other way to evaluate these claims since credibility is out the window.
  • It needs to be non-transactional organizational interactions.
    • As a leader in a group, do you believe the random, reputation-destroyer or the valued and trusted member of your crew?
    • Repeated randoms making the same reputation-destroying claim can be a signal to seriously look into it.
    • The point is, there needs to be concrete thresholds, not aimless, confused wanderings around how to handle situations.
  • Transactional strategy, while efficient, leads to lack of aims perhaps. lack of communication.
  • As a result, innocent people, in or out of the organization, become victims of it.

So now, the best articulation I can manage of what might be the current state of organizational dynamics in society.

We haven't finished learning yet, as a species.

We're literally at a point in time in our species where we navigate transactional vs. relational dynamics at a scale of 7-billion+.

Up til now, we've figured out "the individual" at a smaller population scale. We figured out the hero myth, that the individual must pursue their own path, the individual is the source of truth, and we've managed to encode these lessons in many of our stories. If you try to build systems/societies at an organizational level, it decays every. single. time. for the same reason most people don't care about the core content of school and homework beyond the grade they get (the average person doesn't really care about the lessons of history, math, etc.). So truth/content/value gets outsourced to the organization, and ultimately becomes a clusterfuck since no one individual is invested in it. And the people involved start playing games because there's no value in going with the organization's line of thought. In fact, everyone sees you as a fool if you align yourself with the organization, because it's so obvious you're being used.

So we managed to build a society based on the individual, and managed to scale it up to 7-billion+. But this is our bottleneck now- scale. The transactional vs. the relational. How can 7-billion+ people interact such that the interactions are relational? AKA in such a way that people can be genuinely invested and care for each other, in a way that makes society stable and healthy over the long-term, over future generations? So far, the answer seems to be we can't. So we end up being transactional in most of our relationships- corporate, dating, school, everything. It's great for efficiency, but I suspect it's horrible for psychological health, and contributes to a potential societal decline in the future. Transactional strategies appear to imply non-viability of long-term interactions/relationships/societies, which means the foundation is short-term strategy, which lends itself more to the psychopaths and sociopaths. Which is fine, but I mean, the reason we evolved linear and parallel processing modes in the brain was for long-term strategy with short-term strategy in pockets of great stress.

So the decline might be organizational decay that progressively gets worse until the societies can no longer sustain themselves. No one is genuinely and competently invested and so it just decays, accumulating loss of value as the non-invested take what they can. The naive just move around it til someone feels like taking a shot at them, and then they find themselves as victims without having a clue as to what even happened in the first place.

So with these organizational dynamics at present, it seems we must now take everything we've learned thus far, historically, and move forward so that we can be a long-term, viable species beyond 7-billion+, for the centuries to come. As far as we know, we haven't hit 7-billion+ before, so the challenges we face are unique in that we have to figure it out. This is the bleeding edge of societal structure, and we have to come up with viable solutions that can last hundreds or thousands of years after we die. Not the mediocre patchwork the short-term thinkers want to implement, that'll result in further decline.

Only by figuring that out and creating a rock steady foundation, will we have a shot at building an organization/society that reaches far beyond our current reaches of time and space.

If we can't even build that foundation, if we submit to the decline, we have no hope of building a society that moves beyond.

It will collapse under it's own weight.

We need to become a leaner, perhaps more relational society, and build structures around that. Take on the efficiencies of the transactional and the depths of the relational.

Integrate the monstrous with the ideal at a wider level.

We need as many individuals as possible to integrate their shadows and aim for their own highest ideals.

Otherwise, we'll go extinct.

This is our psychological great filter.

If we can't do that, we won't ever successfully move beyond this particular rock in space.

[–]SultanPepe[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

please make this a post. This is great and insightful.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i knew of a guy from your country who had a moustache and he wouldnt have allowed this

[–]AHumilationADay11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like my boss. Pretty decent painter too

[–]pmmedenver0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah lets bring hitler back! ..... (what??)

[–]BluepillProfessor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Like I tell the guys on MRP, you don't have to go full asshle, just be a little bit more dark triad and see where it takes you.

We don't need the guy with the moustache, but dammit if we could find a guy just a bit more like him than the current leadership. Just a bit. You know, the kind of guy who fires up the trains again- but we skip the whole death camp human skin lamp thing and just send them back home on those trains with pockets full of cash and pleasant memories of their stay in Germany.

[–]pmmedenver10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your rant is very typical of healthcare staff (its the exact same rant my mother has been giving since I was 5 years old, and she works in a US facility). Some part of you enjoys playing the martyr (if it weren't for ME this whole place would go to hell!!) but you forget that there are millions of people exactly like you, with the exact same attitude, that ultimately bear the brunt of all work that must be done. Why are you the one who always has to do everything? Because you're willing to put up with it. Simple enough.

If you really wanted things to change you would put your foot down, demand change, and probably get fired (because like all of us we're replaceable peons) but at least know that you took a stand. And honestly I wish you would grow some balls and stand up for yourself. Because I am sick of going to hospitals and getting treated like shit simply because the staff are overworked. As much as I pay in heathcare costs we shouldn't have these problems. It doesn't have to be this way, but it does require people like you to stop being martyrs. Let the place go to hell, who gives a shit.

[–]CursingWhileNursing11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have made the observation that there are two types of people who stay in health care. Those who might have a bit of a martyr complex, which usually also are those who really care and the people who simply give a fuck and who can't be bothered.

And people who are in the first category face a bit of a dilemma. Should I also just give a fuck or fight this out on the back of my patients? Or should I try to keep going, knowing that my patients will profit from this, but in the end it will cost me dearly?

We recently had a discussion with our chief physician about the problems we face. He did not only show utter lack of understanding for our petty little problems, he told us more or less directly that he will get anyone blacklisted who complains too much.

But of course you are right. We should stick together. But here is one of the problems you encounter when working almost exclusively with women - they seem to be utterly and completely unable to form a united front. While men under stress often develop some form of "trench community" and a "we are in this together, we will fight together" mentality, women begin to bitch and to start an all front psychological warfare.

Sometimes the typical workday feels like a crossover between "Nothing New in the West" and a particularly bloody episode of Game of Thrones. They just don't get it and that makes it easy for our superiors. Divide et impera.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you really wanted things to change you would put your foot down, demand change, and probably get fired

...and nothing will change. They couldn't give a rats ass about your demands for change.

The difference between the Soviet Union and America is this: The Soviets punish you for speaking out. The Americans ignore you. But the result is the same...nothing changes unless the government wants it to.

[–]ohyasurewhatever 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Respect for you from a US male nurse. Same type of stuff happening here. I quit my job about a month ago and I know I will never go back into health care as a floor nurse again. 50 bosses above me, none of them can even do my job but want to tell me why I'm not doing it good enough. The reason is really simple, I have 100 hours of work to do and 40 hours to do it. I hope things get better for you.

[–]CursingWhileNursing4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for your heartening words!

I have 100 hours of work to do and 40 hours to do it

Sounds so familiar. Just as having bosses with no bloody idea how it is on the frontline. Our physicians are the ones who deny a patient with glioblastoma to go home and die in peace, but we are the ones having to deal with that woman begging us to kill her every. bloody. day. Our physicians are the ones who reduce the morphine doses and then tell us "He is not screaming because he is in pain, he is just afraid." and we are the ones hear him screaming all night.

And a lot of our physicians (especially the young, female ones) seem to think we are their personal buttlers. Sure, I can take blood samples, establishing vascular access, place a catheter. And we are the ones who usually apply the chemotherapeutics, although this is the duty of our doctors. But the thing is, I need the time to do those things and they are not my area of responsibility.

And yet our boss actually asked us what we are good for when we are not able to do his work.

Hell, my nursing manager recently asked us why all of us write an "OP" into your roster every morning. Which stands for "ohne pause / without break", because we have no break and we want at least that those 30 minutes land in our overtime account. No, we can't do that. According to our NM, we just need to take the time to sit down and have a nice little break.

And a lot of nurses I know have left the medical field or think about leaving.

The really fucked up thing is that our politicians have no bloody clue about the realities, because they always get the extra treatment. I have witnessed more than once that our nursing manager withdrew a direly needed nurse from a ward to act as the personal lackey of some politician who was a patient at our hospital.

And then those people leave the hospital and are wondering why the hell everyone is complaining.

[–]IndianChad7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a fellow healthcare professional, you sound stressed and overworked and on the verge of breaking down. Get some rest and time off asap or else their might be a hospital shooting lol

[–]samuelnine8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be silly, he's a german, they have gun control laws.

[–]DragonSh1t1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Wtf are you doin, man? Your country is now a shithole, but it also serves as a martyr. Get your shit and leave.

[–]CursingWhileNursing4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Is there really still a better place here in Europe? Sweden and Germany might be the trailblazers, but the rest of Europe is following, fast.

[–]DragonSh1t1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Switzerland. The noses and other miscellaneous traitors of the world keep their money there. Iceland and Ireland are good for now, but they're a bunch of pussies and will mostly willingly commit suicide as well. Now! The good part is that the second world countries of Europe do not put up with the bullshit. Namely Hungary and Poland. I digress, there needs to be a fuckin war. A big one.

[–]lala_xyyz1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Iceland is an expensive, small and cold place. Irish govt has an official shitskin immigration policy. And this is your modern Swiss school class. Hungary is corrupt as fuck, full of gypsies and taxes are too big, Poland is still 50-50, though Schengen and free movement of shitskins invalidates pretty much any national policy.

Nothing will change until traitors are publicly hanged and invaders expelled back to their shitholes.

[–]DragonSh1t0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

So awesome to come back to the trp and see dudes rped about that. So why do you think that is happening? What seems to be the source of the problem besides traitors?

[–]lala_xyyz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The retarded leftist "everyone is equal" ideology. Giving women voting rights. Giving globalist corporations free reign on dictating immigration policies in order to bring down the cost of labor. Lack of group identity, especially the religion-nation mixture. Pussification of men. Brainwashing and sexualization by the media ran by leftards and Jews.

[–]rp-Ubermensch 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Gotta give it to tje French, when things gi to shit, they strike the fuck out until demands are met.

If they really need male nurses as you say, then you're a valuable asset. I would stop working until my overtime is paid

[–]Captain_Save_A_Hoe_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I still have hope for Germany but im pretty convinced the French will got extinct in the next 20-40 years.

[–]Bearhardy-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn bro sounds like you need to do like OP and get the fuck out (probably out of Germany too) nice and well put rant.

[–]scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah man. Western culture is decayed as fuck. It’s absolutely nauseating. The progressive agenda is cancer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude you live in the European union. Why don't you move to another country. Is the grass greener on the other side? no. But if it is tearing you apart, then why should you ruin your own health for some leftist dogs and moslems. People took huge risks to flee DDR Germany. And it sounds honestly that Germany is returning to become DDR. See yourself as a refugee, make a plan. By the way as a Dutch Jew I find it really sad and pathetic that the Holocaust is used as a kind of excuses for these policies. Israel also tries to reject African refugees, who rape and steal in Tel Aviv. Benjamin Netanyahu also got scolded lately by the leftists for even suggesting to deport them.

Shit is going to hit the fan in northern Europe, and no one is going to accept an alt right Germany, even if they were democratically elected. So don't expect any political salvation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to stop supporting them.

[–]BigMawsmidget17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Simply put schools can be looked at like a factory or prison take your pick. They don't really teach us much especially in the main 4 classes. Math, Science, History, or English.

They teach to a test, and it only got worse that now you're required even children in my state to pass these tests. Else it reflects bad on teachers, and some deservedly so others not so much. No idea if kids are held back if they don't pass.

Education itself though is a very tough redpill to go through. If I could do it all over again I'd forgo college education as with the internet and places like this, sad to say I could have learned what I wanted to here.

Edit: This might be far out, but the way I look at school is the only goal it has is how to teach you how to be a good drone. Just like taking a blue pill. Only for you to start realizing that shit is not what it seems just like when dealing with women in a blue pilled lens.

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Thanks. Time to focus on my art full time.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's the way to go man. I'm also an artist. I feel like us RP aware artist types are a rare few.

I was considering going for my MFA to teach college down the line, but academia makes me sick and I want to see it crumble for pretty much all the reasons you listed in your rant. The profs are fucking hack poseurs where some of their 20 year old students produce better work than them. They don't give a fuck about teaching the next generation and passing on the knowledge.. They suck the tit of the institution to pay their rent because they can't cut it as an artist in the world.

I think I'd rather just bartend all night on weekends and have my whole week open for freelancing than have to work side by side with some post-wall menopausal bitch with her fake BFA degree pretending she knows how to teach anything art related.

Not to mention.. If you think regular universities are very anti-male, go to an art college. It's even worse. Not a day goes by I don't hear some bitch whining about how there's not as many successful female artists.. Newsflash sweetheart.. It's very fucking hard to be a successful artist and gallerists, buyers etc don't care that you're male or female they just want good work.

[–]excaliboor1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's very fucking hard to be a successful artist and gallerists, buyers .. just want good work.

That doesn't make it hard. Au contraire.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you think creating successful art work isn’t a difficult process that requires a lifetime of cultivating talent, you’re very mislead. Some people get lucky (or suck dick) and sell a few crappy works and make some money but they usually don’t last the test of time or really bring anything of importance through their work.

[–]nofilmynofucky19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If that envelope is a sample of yours I'd say you're better off finding a new line of work tbh

[–]RobotAntidote-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Any reasoning behind it or you just like to throw insults for that minor validation monent? Fuck outta here scrub.

[–]rooster-one4-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you see who the letter was from and the envelope? Get a little deeper here, think a bit more on that.

[–]sogardnitsoc5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you love teaching about art, why don't you start a youtube channel? If you can grab kids attention, you can grab the attention of an adult.

[–]flat_tree7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

women, weak shitty women, lead by even weaker shittier "men" all held in place by lawyers ready to sue at a moments notice should someone's feelings get hurt

[–]NorthEasternNomad4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens, when you take a group who may never really mature beyond, say, late teens...and put them in charge of adults.

[–]RobotAntidote1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not women, women can teach through a whole nother spectrum than males; It's just that with the feminist movement all women got a boost in credibility, even the slobs with no direction in life. It's like a guy constantly saying "You're special" to get that pussy, but on steroids <- That's the feminist movement for them; It validates their entire existence for no reason other than being women. "This" is and should be the issue for the top feminists to handle, but they aren't. I personally belive it's because they are new in a position of power and they are few. Few women can be considered "woke" the rest are just princesses running around colecting flowers on medows, getting angry for the lulz because they genuinely belive their world is IT. They genuinely believe that's all there is to it, that behind it all it's just fun and games. And that... comes back full circle to us pampering them for that pussy and not sending them to war for the exact same reason men go. They don't innately understand death the way we do and trust me, realism in life is closely related to how you see death. I welcome feminism, I want an empowered woman that knows what's happening around her not just a hole that makes me dinner - that's archaic thinking and it's a pussy's defence. Posters from the 50's was it? make me sick. I'll even add that the only males waking up are the ones openly mysoginistic, or that do not deny that "racism" between genders. It's not easy to make peace with a stranger even if we come from the same dick+vagina aparently. Hell, there's racism between men themselves. As a race we're just not that trusting of one another. It's time we let that sink in, accept it and move on, whatever moving on means for you.

[–]goatwithbeergoggles8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I welcome feminism, I want an empowered woman that knows what's happening around her not just a hole that makes me dinner

Can you explain what you mean by 'empowered woman'? It has become such as buzzword that it barely has any meaning attached to it.

[–]RobotAntidote8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A woman that found power through her, not, was given power. A woman that doesn't have a second train of thought constantly for what's happening in front of her. Women, in my opinion, due to pampering, think we're playing some stupid societal game to hide our primal / instinctual? urges. They play along because we're in power but constantly believe it's actually just a mask for "let's set free all our urges, whopeeee". That's precisely why women LOVE an animalistic approach in bed, it validates their point. That's also precisely why a woman needs a father figure.

Back to it though, the current feminist movement, uncontrolled, left ALL women asking for a slice of the pizza like we've been eating it alone up until now... come to think of it, do you think that's why all feel entitled to my fries? Scratch everything, an empowered woman is the one that doesn't feel the need to eat my fries.

[–]laylowwww73 points74 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Bro, I feel you. I see it in my corporate job as well. One thing you can't do is allow the lowest common denominator to penetrate your frame and rule your emotions. I run and lift 4-5 days a week. I am consistently shit-tested and prodded by mouth breathers within the corporate structure. I've taken to meditation and had to dig deep not to allow this kind of shit to affect me. I will never let a slob get the best of me. Kudos for doing you though.

[–]EqualFaithlessness22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Ha. I feel you on the corporate thing. I work for student activities for my college, it’s half office work, half promoting events and running errands. And my workers are like these wannabe perfect robots. You can see right through their miserable fake smile and monotone voice of pain.

The other day I wore a white t shirt (I was never once given a particular dress code for this job), and my boss told me, “just want to give you a word of advice, don’t let mrs. Smith (my boss’ boss) see you with that shirt on.” Before this she rifled thru her desk looking for shirts for me to wear from past events at the college. I look at her and say “oh you don’t like it?” She was rattled. Lmao. She repeated herself and I’m like well I’ll save my breath here and wear my coat around all day. Funny thing is right after this ridiculous interaction Mrs. Smith walks in and doesn’t say a damn word to me and goes in her office. I look at my boss and put my hands up and sarcastically go “ooooo, thank god”

Like, honey, I’m workin for pennies here, you never told me about a dress code, and stop letting such petty shit get to you lol.

[–]Newoski19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah i work in an office, everyday i come in dressed in office attire where as the women in my team all come in dressed in basically weekend clothes, some even wear singlets from time to time, they also are most often than not bare footed at their desks. I decided to wear jeans and a collared shirtalong with my dress shoes and get pulled aside to be told i am not in office attire...

[–]SangEntar16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've gotten to the place at work where I come into the office wearing black jeans and un-ironed shirts and trainers to see how far I can push them before they say anything. Turns out, being good at the job matters more than what I wear. Only time they ever mentioned my appearance was when I hadn't had my hair cut nor had I shaved in over 6 months. The next day, I walked in with my hair cut and clean shaven.

[–]Newoski1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Other work places i have done just that. I also dont think "being good at tour job" has anything to do with it, as i am the most proactive member in my team, creating tools that have helped increase productivity, training of staff and have now been promoted to manager of my team as of last night.

It is just a general double standard a lot of people have noticed when it comes to appropriate attire in a business setting for genders. Personally at the end of the day it doesnt bother me, i merely found tgis instance relative to a comment and i added my 2 cents.

[–]EqualFaithlessness0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. And they never got confronted but you didnt I’m sorry. I feel being a man in a female dominated office poses petty, but real challenges.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

its because women are sticklers for unimportant rules because they like to feel powerful making people do shit...guys are more laid back about the whole thing

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you take away everything that offends somebody,

eventually nothing is left for anybody.

[–][deleted] 95 points96 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

God, my father always told me “Teachers become teachers because they get no respect in the real world, so they demand respect from little kids.” I have found that to be more true as I progress through my final years of schooling. Whenever you don’t obey their commands like the dog they want you to be, they freak the fuck out.

[–]Baloo02038 points39 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

No wonder Americans don't respect the profession of teaching. Teaching takes skill. A good teacher is incredibly valuable. In fact, the best teachers are probably those who tried but failed. Those who didn't have that special thing but tried their hardest. Like a 5'5 guy almost making the NBA.

[–]CursingWhileNursing20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Yes" to the first part of your statement, a vigorous "No!" to the second part.

Yes, teaching takes a lot of skill. Also it needs patience, the capability to handle difficult kids, insight into human nature and the ability to put your own ego aside. I am in my 40s now and there were teachers in my life I still remember for their good influence on at least some aspects of my personality.

But when teachers fail, they will inevitably fail hard. Because the damage they will cause is immense. A bad teachers has an incredibly damaging influence on many, many kids. A bad teacher can and will ruin lifes and personalities.

"Kudos for trying!" is something you can say to a failed artist or athlete. Maybe to a failed carpenter or a bad gardener. You don't say it to people with jobs were failure means directly destroying peoples lifes and future. I mean, I am a nurse, would you say this to me in case I just killed your children by giving them the wrong drugs?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to make the point that with teachers, it really only takes one or two good teachers to change everything. The earlier you get a good teacher, the less any bad teachers you have matter.

To add to this, a lot of this is on the parents. Too many adults not giving a shit about their kids and not able to help them with grade school math.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem with teaching is that it has become institutionalized. Institutionalization and rules have stifled any creativity but has prevented true atrociousness either. It has created a gray blend of mediocrity.

[–]RobotAntidote0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Wrong, that's romanticizing failure. nyone can do if they put their mind to it. If you fail the real tbing but become a teacher, you're the problem. Teachers should be people that succesfully understand the craft at a higher level, a phylosophy that ties in with the world which they then feel the need to pass on the knowledge of because they feel like they have a fluid understanding of it. Any bookworm teaching is nothing morr than a guy masturbating in front of a class.

[–]Baloo0209 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry, success does not only depend on grit and perseverance. It depends on many factors including personal luck / genetics / country of residence and so forth. Just because people are successful does not mean they are good teachers and vice versa. I have met successful people that were terrible teachers.

Michael Jordans coach and mentor, Dean Smith, never played in the NBA, but he was a damn good coach. How come? Maybe playing in the NBA and being a good coach are two different set of skills with some overlap.

[–]RobotAntidote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The succes they sell you on tv? The get rich through jumping the right hoops at the right time? Yes, sure. Succes is not that, succes is feeling the accomplishment that comes with following your dream. Find your calling, find why you live on this earth, set your mind to it and take money out of the equation; Money is the only thing holding you back. You're finding excuses because you don't want to do it. You don't want to do it because... you don't want to do it. Stop forcing yourself to do something against your own will for money. Do what you want and you will know succes and when you see a hump you'll inately look for a solution not excuse. It's quite obvious once you see it.

[–]rooster-one42 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no romanticizing failure. Failure, like a depression, force us to reflect on how we got there, and to find that step or sequence that brought failure. It could have been from the start, and it could have just been one component with little margin for error. These aren't romantic notions, these are, in fact, how we learn, and what we teach from. We teach others our mistakes, so they can make brand new ones, not repeat the same old ones over and over.

[–]Paladin29034 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Completely agree. Don’t get me wrong, I had some great teachers, but most were just a bunch of insecure egoists on a power trip.

Either that, or closeted pedophiles (which is the other huge elephant in the room that no one wants to talk abut), or people that just wanted a guaranteed union job with summers off.

As someone that was educated by many nuns, let me tell you, it’s a HUGE red-pilling eye opener, because they were mostly evil fucking bitches. It makes you realize how enormously full of shit that religion is, and how evil many of these people are.

In my opinion, most kids should just be home-schooled. With the internet, there’s absolutely no need for anyone to send their child off to some evil government indoctrination camp/babysitting service, filled with useless selfish teachers, and little apes (whose brains aren’t fully developed), therefore, they feel a need to bully everyone — and of course, teachers also do nothing about the bullying, because they don’t care.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

About homeschooling, I’ve had similar thoughts, however, the common argument is the lack of a social aspect. That is pretty much the entire reason I don’t do homeschooling. Everyone learns at a different pace and learns in different ways. School generalizes the education. If you’re ahead intellectually, too bad. I learn in about half the time and waste the rest of the time waiting for the others to catch up while I could be learning far more material. School is fundamentally flawed.

[–]TheseNthose2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

About homeschooling, I’ve had similar thoughts, however, the common argument is the lack of a social aspect. That is pretty much the entire reason I don’t do homeschooling.

That shit is false as fuck. There's Home Schooling Groups where they get the kids together. Plus you can always enroll them in group classes at YMCA, Hockey camps, swimming lessons, music lessons, Science camps....etc you get the idea.

Afterall what socializing do kids get in a public school? From what i remember we had to sit there and not talk or get in trouble. We only really talked during recess and lunch and in high school between classes.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, I’ll check that out. Thanks for the information.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

therefore, they feel a need to bully everyone — and of course, teachers also do nothing about the bullying, because they don’t care.

Bullying should NOT, I repeat, should NOT be solved by teachers, administrators or institutions. The best way to solve bullying is to let kids fight as long as no one gets hurt. Kids operate by the laws of the jungle, if you are strong, nobody bothers you and you have many 'friends'. If you are perceived as weak you will get shit on by everyone. How then does fighting prevent bullying? It shows the bully that the kid is willing to stand up for himself and winning the fight does not matter at all.

[–]Paladin29031 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I understand what you’re saying, but you have to understand that most kids don’t have the courage to fight, the physical skills, or both.

You can teach kids physical fighting skills, but if the don’t have the heart/courage, it won’t be helpful.

In my opinion, it’s just beyond cruel to let kids that can’t defend themselves go through the torture, day-after-day.

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand what you’re saying, but you have to understand that most kids don’t have the courage to fight, the physical skills, or both.

Courage can also be developed by seeing examples of heroic men on tv, by reading about them, by seeing examples in day-to-day life and via encouragement

[–]mp1118 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When they tell you their word is law, not educating yourself, you know you're in trouble.

[–]Unwanted_Commentary 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Those who can't do... teach

[–]rooster-one40 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe this, not all the way. I'm working myself into a teaching role after being in the field for 25+ years. I'm tired of seeing the younglings come to this profession thinking it's just about making money because of no skill. I know I won't be able to weed out but only a few, but I hope that I pass on a few things that I've learned and it will be applied, and hopefully help create some A players in a huge market of C - F players.

[–]Unwanted_Commentary 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Great, so your core objective is to weed out people instead of teaching them.

[–]rooster-one41 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

In engineering, weeding out is part of it. But the whole binary response doesn't make sense. and I thought a forum like this was supposed to help us get away from shaming tactics, not to inspire them against each other.

[–]Unwanted_Commentary 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

A metric fuckload of my engineering professors had the same mindset and it was the dumbest thing ever.

Their strategy was to make a class "artificially difficult" through inadequate teaching. Literally every student would fail the tests, and they would curve the people who got 50s up to an A. They had no interest in producing quality engineers but rather dropping a quarter of the student population so that they could make some bullshit claim of "academic rigor."

[–]rooster-one40 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I definitely don't believe in that 'you have to earn it' mentality. I had to go through it with the undergrad and I know I wouldn't do that. However, some folks don't have very good reasoning abilities, or are just chasing the paycheck, and it would benefit everyone if they were influenced into something they'd be more happy in.

[–]Cryxtalix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But you can't do without teaching. People can't just download and upload stuff into their brains via USB.

If young countrymen are filled with unenthusiastic learners with bad education, the economy will suffer. Your father will feel the effects too.

[–]monsieurhire217 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Instead of quitting, you should have schemed to TAKE OVER. If these people are really as mediocre as you say, it would have been relatively easy to oust them through a coup. You could still try it. Get a bunch of people with similar minds, and take over the school board and fire the principal and install yourself. Then get rid of all the mediocre policies and people.

[–]officeManipulator35 points36 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Young Man,

I totally sympathize with you, and I do think this is a political issue, and it is at a huge expense to humanity.

Let me try to lace some of my own thoughts to what you have said and see what comes out of it:

Very well paying job, and making 20% on top of my base because I’ve been able to teach an extra class after school.

There's always the 80/20 rule where 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people.
And my advice is, if you are in the top 20% of your community, take this opportunity to step up yourself as a leader and hire people to work for you so that you can show them how it's done.

Fundamental truth: A big mistake we did as people of the world is to rely on our respective government to give us education, instead of customizing our own. There has never been a government who teaches its citizens how to join the private sector, how to do taxes, how to start an entrepreneurship, how to become good leaders, and how to advocate for a small government (hence smaller government control) so there're more market freedom and allows for people to bring the best out of themselves. People who have been trained to depend on the government and failed to break out of that shell end up becoming a sheep who depended on others. When people become sheep, the first approach to a problem is "Who should I call to fix this?" instead of "How do I fix this?" and will continue to blame others for their own shortcomings.

And as we already seen, these people are going to sheep themsleves to others when they take leadership roles e.g. pleasing the minority, pleasing the naysayers at the expense of the customers (i.e. the children of our future).

The main reason I said most of us has gone wrong is because we failed to do the most crucial mistake: We failed to blame ourselves for not takin control of our education, so when we let others shape our education, they don't shape it to our interest; ratther they shaped it against our interests.

Either way, the dumb cunt made enough stink that the principal had to go scramble and find another teacher who she could offer an extra class to teach, surprise, only one other teacher took it.

Unfortunately people like this exist around the globe, and the best you can do is kick them out if you have the power. The problem is compounded when the leader is a sheep who has no leadership skills. When the leadership has become more arbitrary, it becomes poorer and ends up causing so much damage accordingly.

The best thing for you to do is per my advise above: start your own thing and show your staff how leadership is done.


Unfortunately this is very true in a community of people who don't give a shit. People who uses their mouths instead of their limbs to do work.

The job was getting to me. Mediocrity was starting to rub off on me.

I'm actually very happy that you left that shithole place. Now you can do more, do better and shut these people down.


This goes back to my fundamental truth point: there is no leadership because we never took control from the beginning.

Here is an insightful share of my personal experience over the above matter, in Corporate context:

I work in a corporate environment. I'd say the poeple are something like this (which most of us can find in our workplaces):

  1. Mediocrity, play not to lose: as long as there's one party to blame on, coming in first or second last has equal weightage. There is no incentive for excellence; only incentives for not coming in last.
  2. Hostile work environment: A man can no longer use words like "sweetheart", "thank you", "Dearie" (the only "dear" that could be use is in the email opener), "Cute", "Elegant" as a remark to women as that is treated with hostility.
  3. Non-human: because we take out these words from the vocabulary which comprises humanizing experiences, people forget what it means to be a human and behaves so
  4. Dependant: Instead of going "how do I fix this/get this done" they say "I cant get this done. I need someone else to do it". And when they get into a precarious position (like a bonus cut or a pay cut), they blame the Senior Management for not doing a good enough job.
  5. Poor Leadership: Leaders want everyone to be the same, so there is no "denial of opportunity", so they punish anyone who eemed to perform.

My solution:

  1. My free time, my own thing. I quit social media surfing, motivate others, create a business plan to serve others, and take the advantage of corporate training to train my soft skills, managerial skills, business skills etc. All for me and me only.
  2. My innovation, all for me. I have found a way to hide under the radar to do a day's work in 2 hours, so I can spend the next 6 hours learning about my thing.
  3. Take advantage of their weaknesses to grow yourself to the fullest.

[–]RobotAntidote9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you on the fact that we've become complacent, I've felt the same from my corporate job (worse even, a call center), people whore their integrity for cash - it's a whorehouse - and they enforce and pass that down the line. I'm from Romania, this place is infested with call centers because the more developed countries afford to pay a way better salary for their "plantation slaves" (what some of us used to call eachother) and there's a vast majority actually knowing english or french / spanish. This actually has a positive effect as well on us, because it's like a vaccine, you get a mini-model of the way the world works and when you apply it to a larger scale you start to see the whole machine and how badly it squeaks and is doomed to collapse. This ties into my next point though, you don't solve an issue by "kicking someone out" or by killing someone even; Believe it or not, we're not born evil, we start getting hurt and we pass it on, and the same way you have to stand up for yourself and what you believe in and not leave it to some "higher authority" the same way you have to help your fellow guy and not "kick him" in the "wild". That's not solving the issue, that's delaying it the same way moving plastic waste from land to sea or viceversa is just delaying the issue not solving it. Be consistent. Also, stop that "young man" shit, age is a made up factor, we each have our own path.

[–]InsideSentence23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm also a teacher and agree with lots of things you said, but you'll find there's a shitty hierarchy in many occupations. Our job as teachers are to serve the students, and we make many sacrifices for it. You might want to look into charter schools that follow a different philosophy, there are plenty of schools in rougher areas where you can get away with your creativity and pedagogy.

I had a lucrative summer contract that recently ended due to a toxic work environment. It was a very popular summer program where we taught classes at Ivy league universities for international students spending a month abroad. Great pay and experience, but shitty project manager and co-worker over the last year convinced me that I couldn't torture myself another summer just to get paid.

But please, don't let this get to your head. It's shitty and I feel you. I don't see the point in destroying a letterhead owned by Einstein. You have to have more discipline and control over your emotions my man. Stay focused.

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I’m done with my community service. Gonna do art and music full time.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

music is like air to me. feel free to pm me, we can exchange play lists, like workout mix/abstract/new wild acts/classic, wtf-ever its like fine food, I've tried a lot, but there's so much more out there, its like an iceberg market; even when I'm really looking, I only see 1/7th of what's out there.

[–]Sophisticated_Sloth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey man, I'd love to swap playlists!

[–]RobotAntidote2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it me or is this divine retribution, movie like style, of "running for riches" bufoons getting the equivalent product of the rich world - fat "teachers" running for money -, whilst the poverty area is getting quality heartfelt teachings from proper craftsmen. Dare I say, vive la revolution?

[–]Marr0w121 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn't even realise this was a TRP post.

I'd like to introduce you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

TLDR: People will perform at a level acceptably for long enough that they'll eventually be promoted to a level at which they're not competent. Being incompetent isn't usually enough to get you demoted/fired, but will just prevent you from being promoted.

This applies in your situation because the other teachers can remain incompetent and stay in their role indefinitely, as long as they dont actually aspire to be promoted. Also perfectly competent teachers will probably eventually be promoted to dean/headmaster, which might require a different skillset, and they might actually suck at, but because they were good teachers, they've ended up there.

Don't feel down, don't let being surrounded by lazy retards diminish your work ethic. If you get paid well to do what you love, you've hit the jackpot.

Source: my parents are longtime teachers. Also in the military it's exactly the same, you'll either be surrounded by your peers who have no drive/ambition, and are happy to sit at their 'level of incompetence' indefinitely, or you'll be working under managers who were good at their chosen jobs so got promoted, but aren't necessarily any good at management (because it's really it's own skillset).

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also in the military it's exactly the same, you'll either be surrounded by your peers who have no drive/ambition, and are happy to sit at their 'level of incompetence' indefinitely, or you'll be working under managers who were good at their chosen jobs so got promoted, but aren't necessarily any good at management (because it's really it's own skillset).

dude, my friends that are in the military currently are literally saying this exact thing almost word for word. one guy who's in the navy, this drives him absolutely insane.

[–]Marr0w13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only benefit (for us at least) is that generally performing better gets you more deployments/perk trips.

For every other metric, it's basically just time based (due to courses only being run once a year, and pay scale based on time at rank)... There's really only two ways to deal with it 1) You 'check out' as well, and focus every spare ounce of energy on your side games and/or 2) You show up to work and kill that motherfucker out of personal pride (and hope that over time you'll at least work your way to the list of people they trust with the perks/trips)

[–]EnragedParrot9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I first started college to be a teacher. Within the first year I realized what bullshit it was. Changed to engineering. Never looked back.

[–]gabilromariz4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you me? I now teach math privately (parents are allowed to sign a paper excusing kids from class if they take an end-of-year exam to prove they're being taught elsewhere, I provide this service) to make ends meet until I graduate. The kids are so poorly taught it really makes me sad.

[–]EnragedParrot2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Congrats on finding a way to make a difference. I too realized I could have more influence outside conventional education - at times I've been a tech trainer and a leader. I try hard to promote the idea that anyone can learn what I'm teaching.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same. I wanted to be a History teacher but went a 180 and went to a tech program.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you have savings? How much money will you earn from your 'art'? Will it be enough to cover your monthly expenses and lifestyle? Does it even have any market value? If not, you are a naive and impulsive dumbass to lose it all over a tantrum. I'm guessing very young also. Yeah, the system is corrupt, that witch was a bitch and the principal a pussy, but that shit happens everywhere in life. Your job is to focus on your interests and well being, and play the game. Not fucking run from it. Impulsive decisions are for women and children. Quitting your job and well being because some cunt was a cunt is retarded. You could have worked on your art outside work, or simply apply for a different job and quit after you signed the papers. The upvotes won't put food on your plate.

[–]nofilmynofucky34 points35 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Pretty unimpressed that you'd deface a historic artifact with that trash scribbling. If that's the sort of edgy shit you consider art I'd recommend you take this opportunity to change career paths

honestly who the fuck does that?

theory of fuckativity

Are you 12?

[–]Nicolay7714 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes. The fucking irony of that action.

Sets him on the same level of his former co-workers.

[–]TheEnglishman286 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Government education, not even once.

Teach at a private school.

[–]SaintHolland8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There are three types of education

  1. Working class education.

This is the conveyor belt education in the modern west. Basic literacy. Original thinking is punished while conformity and obedience is rewarded.

  1. Middle class education.

This is the professional education you find in universities like law, engineering, health etc.

  1. Ruling class education.

This is the leadership education for the top 3%. Private one on one tutoring. Read the classics. Learn history inside and out. Understand the trivium (grammar, logic, and rhetoric) in depth. Learning how to run a country as a statesman.

... realised this year that I had only recieved a working class education. Teaching myself grammar and logic at the moment (which makes your thinking precise af) and reading the classics (homer, plato and so on - teaches me how the world works, how power is used etc) and biographies of great men (washington, t.roosevelt, napoleon - which teaches me what it is possible to achieve). Highly recommended.

At the very least, learn the history of the west. Knowledge of the past is crucial.

[–]TheseNthose1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is some Illuminati shit, bro.

[–]Paladin29030 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hit the nail right on the head. The ruling class education teaches them how to obviously be rulers — the ones that lord over others, call the shots, and it teaches them useful information/skills to get navigate life. They are always reminded that they are the “chosen” ones.

For the impoverished below average “minions,” the conveyor belt teaches them how to be a good little sheep. Obedience and authority are embedded in their brains. They are subconsciously reminded (over and over) that they are sheep.

The middle class education teaches this class how to be successful in life as mid-level managers. A few might grind their way up to upper levels. Generally, many will make an extremely comfortable living, filled with traveling, and a nice 401k, and some stock options, but 99% will never be part of the ruling elite.

[–]VasiliyZaitzev4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The catalyst. I found out that there was another teacher complaining about how it is not fair that I teach an extra class and other teachers don’t. Not once has this teacher asked if she could teach an extra class ... and instead of minding her own business, she tried to throw a monkey wrench on my after school art class.

This is fairly typical - what she thinks isn't fair is that you are making more $. Fuck the work that goes into it. She doesn't want any part of that. She just thinks "No fair!" Probably complains about the "wage gap" too.

She is old, rotten, ugly and her husband is always out of town working on some aerospace project avoiding Dame Edna and nailing younger, hotter women.


[–]shwadevivre3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Principals, in Canada at least, aren’t paying lip service to... whatever group you want to blame. They’re bottom level administrators who answer to school board who try corporate metrics to determine the worth of a school. Passing rates and satisfaction rates are more important in these than actual education, which is why they kiss so much ass - it makes the school seem better, which makes them look like a successful administrator, which catapults their career.

The problem is the administration, lack of properly allocated funds or incentives for good teachers to stay, and the way education is a plaything of posturing politicians to get elected while actual teaching is left behind.

It’s too bad that you’re not strong enough to be that good teacher in a sea of terrible ones, because these are important too, but it doesn’t reflect negatively on you because that is a largely thankless task until you meet your students 10-15 years down the road who remember you and your efforts. These beautiful moments don’t pay the bills or ease your current stress.

Good luck.

[–]bkrugby780 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that pretty much describes education in America. And here I tend to think that other countries have a more clear view of education than we do here.

[–]GayLubeOil4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's an interesting question: How can a group of people who shun innovation, hard work and are basically power point readers and rubric followers inspire children with a a love of knowledge? What were dealing with here is slave morality.. Slaves belong on a plantation not tending to the most valuable resource we have our children.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My sister taught for 5 years and just quit for literally all the reasons you mentioned. Even the same story of getting a call 5 minutes later from the superintendent.

Came to the realization that 19/20 teachers are just people OK making $50k for the rest of their life, which tells you something. They’re crabs in a bucket who hate their life.

She taught summer school, started their engineering classes, assistant coach on the basketball team and was at every football/play/extracurricular event.

Got stonewalled by leadership/other teachers at every turn trying to improve anything and everything.

Realized the education system was built on the backs of people like her who were “doing God’s work” donating their talents to the “noble profession” of teaching.

She’s going to make >2x salary at her first private sector job, will have better hours, and can donate her time to helping kids in other ways.

It’s so fucking broken.

[–]uwey6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

These people you hate seems to get on top of power curve by ignoring what appear to be social rules that people pre-establish. They focus their time on how to net personal favor effectively.

The fat slob PE teacher may suck dick and get his position secured, money talks, don't take my share of the pie.

Just kissing ass to the vocal minorities and destroying standards

Learn to read the social narrative in the trend, or you will get public hanged as the scapegoat. People love to watch the scapegoat suffer...

Most teacher I know had the different path, either private elite school or college tenure. The power struggle is much worse, almost Mongol-level of brutality.

Good luck

[–]midgetpooooo16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You gotta play the workforce game better rather than rant here. Not that I don't agree, it's just that you should have some actionable insights other than e=mc fuck youuuu lol.

One would be to play the PC politics well and in your favor at work. Never talk about politics at work, never bring up anything controversial, but do use the same tactics the ugly cunt does to your advantage, Game of Thrones style (Cersei and Littlefinger as inspiration) to get what you want.

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I don’t know how else to play. Better to eject and not look back.

[–]trulytrulyisay2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

While I agree this can be a good course of action, it takes someone already in possession of dark triad traits to successfully manipulate and navigate through social environments. If OP doesn't have this disposition already, his best option seems to be to remove himself from the environment.

[–]midgetpooooo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true. Those environments seem to have pervaded many places now though.

[–]PhaedrusHunt23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My children's school is run by disgusting SJW type lesbians. God help em

[–]RobotAntidote1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do your best to teach your children that a person's worth is not defined by her orientation and that we each follow our path through life. Each's life is different, can you find a reason to hate someone else's life?

[–]Entropy-73 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I had a nightmare posting to a school where they were more concerned about papering their files and covering thier ass rather than about teaching the kids anything.

I am a Canadian ex-pat in China.

[–]EvigSoeger2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a late Millennial/early Gen Z, and even here in Europe, you hit the nail on the head. Almost every teacher I've had was either a passive or bordering on feminine man, or women of varying degrees of bitterness, all preaching the same old shit.

The only teacher I've ever had really stand out was an older women with a clearly conservative mind, who taught religion and philosophy. Even though she was obviously way past her prime, this woman embraced traditional femininity in her attitude and style of teaching so much that you could feel it when she walking the classroom. She was happily married with kids, highly educated, traditionally spiritual (but absolutely loved fostering discussion with us edgy atheist teenagers) and was 100% passionate about her field of work.

That's the kind of teachers kids need. Traditional role models with actual competence.

[–]seducter3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This hit too close to home, only I’m an accountant. I used to wonder why every publicly traded company I worked for had a shitload of old erp software that was never kept up to date and always required the digital equivalent of duct tape and hope to keep it together.

It’s the leadership.

My last company I was at, the Controller quit within a month and left me in charge of 3 direct reports. I had no idea what to do but I told everyone we were going to get through this and that I was going to help them clear whatever obstacles were in their way.

-I shut down sales guys entering po’s wrong in the system by meeting with the sales managers who these lazy fucks reported to (seriously, these guys couldn’t give a shit if they entered a $1M po as $800k or $1.3M. If you enter a po as $800k you leave $200k ON THE TABLE! If you enter it as $1.3M YOU DON’T GET PAID!

-As a result our customers were now paying (I got AR down from $25M to $600k) by developing processes that ensure we get paid

-I was crucial in upgrading their ancient ERP software

-I fixed so many audit issues (seriously, how the fuck does PWC sign off on a $2M variance between what your books say you have vs what you have - think they got some leadership issues of their own).

I fixed so much shit they said the books have never been better, unfortunately it was oil and gas so you know how that story goes.

But back to your point, the next company I joined is right back to doing things willy nilly. Every day they do the same thing 5 or 6 different ways. I fix something but overnight they circumvent it.

It’s the leadership.

As a leader I saw the power you truly have to change things, but now that I’m back to a normal accountant role, I no longer have the “title” or sway that allows me to do that, but the ones who CAN change things here, the leadership, well they act like the changes should come from the ground up. But those sales guys taught me you talk to the top and enforce change down.

Enjoy the decline.

[–]F_Dingo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You hit straight at home with the ERP software! This company I interviewed at for an internship last month was using software that was 25 years old to do their cost accounting. I asked when the hell they were going to upgrade software and the person I was interviewing with said it was going to be around 5 years before they moved to SAP.

What the fuck!

[–]ReddJive2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have a disability. I am not afraid to bring it out into the open.

I cannot work in a corporate environment. I can't. I have hard time dealing with the drones. I also have a slight issue with authority. Mainly because if I feel I can do the job better than my boss? I lose respect for them and frankly I am more qualified for my bosses job then he is.

I also tire of the baby sitting style of leadership. You know the one. Where you uncover an issue and you bring it up, then the boss flips the script on you instantly telling you that you need to get this done. Like...mother fucker I just told you it needed to get done and the plan to do it. THEN you get an email from him to the next senior leaders how he tasked YOU to do x y z. MOTHER. FUCKER.

Yeah I could quit. Leave behind the reputation, respect I have built in the community because...well I just couldn't deal with some fucks. Or I could figure out what's up with me. Why I can't deal with these issues. How better to use these obstacles I have for better ends. I mean there is a 48 Law moment in there somewhere right?

Any way why should I let what my boss do bother me? I am not looking for a promotion. It's a long story but like I said I can't function in a corporate environment. I am well paid for what I do. I have some flexibility in my time. I am working on exciting projects and work directly with the bleeding edge of military and law enforcement.

IN all things in your life. There is one common denominator. The irritations of the world are not going to leave. Quit your job, burn it all down, and start anew. You are still there in the middle of it all. You don't have to fix the world, in fact I advise against it. You still have to live here.

Rage at them.

Laugh at yourself.

It's all bullshit in the end.

[–]SKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is just for this situation that Law 24, "Play the perfect courtier" exists.

After having being the corporate world and seen everything, I've concluded that money, skills and experience on your resume are the only honest motives for working, in that order.

Money's the most honest.

[–]red_matrix[🍰] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn dude, I feel you. But - never make a decision when you're angry, that goes double for BIG decisions. The thing is - this problem you see is everywhere, it's in the corporate world too. You can't escape it. I want to quit as well, but I'll end up right back at square one. The entire system is infected and I don't know what to do.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

High school student here, my school is 95% fucking retards who somehow got a degree to teach. I haven’t learn a single thing in my 4 years at school and I have a 3.5 gpa. All of the teachers and staff are just out to get the students. It’s ridiculous.

[–]askmrcia6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Our education system is a complete joke. When I was in HS (08) I could give about 40% effort and still get straight A's.

A lot of students were handed grades just so the school could inflate numbers of their graduation rate. My graduation class was 300 and I truly believed that less then 100 should have gotten a diploma.

The teachers didn't teach shit. Example: They didn't teach what a thesis statement was until my senior year of high school.

College? Honestly you have to be an idiot to not get a college degree or you truly don't care about college.

All you have to do is show up to class, be active in class and talk to the professors and you will get a passing grade.

Flunk a Test? Professors will curve it. I've seen cases where students got 50% of an exam, but it got boosted to 60 to 70% because it was curved.

Yea the system is screwed.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My school spent 3/4th of every single fucking year focusing on state tests so we could get funding. Beside the social aspect and memories made in highschool, I didn’t learn a god damn thing.

[–]bettermyself1 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah these people irratate me, just cuse you got something they want to take it away so you can be even. Bit they dont want anything for them self's,

[–]daymi2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, the crabs in a bucket. There are very few people who don't do that. I try to hold on to those few for dear life. The others, I ignore them as well as I can - it's scary how quickly they drag you down otherwise (I tried talking to them - wow, I really don't have enough mental kung-fu to protect myself. Any tips?).

[–]TitanUcheze7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Those who cannot do, teach. Those who cannot teach, teach gym.”

[–]jimbad052 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Off topic, but it's good to know that cool art teachers exist.

I always sucked at drawing and stuff despite my best efforts. My middle school art teacher agreed while providing no tips for improvement. I got a C-. Why the hell gets a C- in art when they're actually trying?

To this day I have no use for art or creative types in general.

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Any art teacher that doesn’t incorporate mistakes, effort or risk taking as part of the art process doesn’t do art

[–]Damien_Scott5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I recall being in 8th grade and our young female art teacher had us spend two week using crayons to color in coloring book pages.

I was so insulted by the whole thing that I refused to color inside the lines, or follow any sort of conventional 3 year old coloring standards. I failed every assignment for that time.

Now we have adults giving adults adult coloring books.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You just described every place I've ever worked. It's not just within the school system. My ex wife was an art teacher and couldn't understand why the other art teachers snubbed her. She would get passed over constantly for classes she wanted to teach. She couldn't understand that the reason was those other women were spending their down time bonding and gossiping and otherwise securing their place in their group. While they were doing that she was off campus coaching diving. It probably didn't help that she was hot and flirtatious.

She quit coaching a couple of years after we divorced and last time I talked to her she said she got that class she had been wanting to teach for the last 8 years.

Anyway, the point is, in any work environment you need to know how to play the game. Sounds like you had a pretty good set up there. With as frustrating as it might have been rage quitting isn't really to your benefit.

I don't know if you'll still be interested in teaching. Maybe a private school would be better for you. They are actually held accountable there rather than functioning as a babysitter.

There will still be incompetence and idiocy anywhere you work. You just have to learn how to let it shed off your back like water over a duck.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately this is more widespread than you know. All those kids go into society and spread the same mentality. The root is Marxism, plain and simple. Western Classics education posited the idea that anyone could become great through the manly application of reason, physical fitness, and moral character. Marxists said “that’s racist” and the state gave in. Why? Because if you believe that as long as you’re not a mediocre piece of shit you’ll be fine in society, then that necessarily implies that people who are dumb, lazy, fat, etc. DID IT TO THEMSELVES—gasp! Personal responsibility? No!

The first step is purging every semblance of Marxism (i.e. feminist theory, queer theory, critical race theory, moral relativism, multiculturalism, postmodernism, transgenderism, social constructionism, etc.) from the education system.

The second step is reintroducing the Western classics and Western Civ courses as MANDATORY in every grade and every school/university.

[–]blister3331 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What schools are you guys going to? Mine was pretty competitive about grades and sports, there definitely wasn’t a theme of mediocrity at all.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What percentage of your school was white?

[–]SKRedPill6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

One of my professors once taught a class in a well known university in the US. He wrote a basic equation related to something : x2+bx+c = 0 (Quadratic stuff).

Half way through, some students get up and ask him, "Why did you put that 2 over there?" When he narrated the story to us, our whole class burst into laughter.

My prof would tell us any Asian kid in 3rd grade would know what that meant. While he also saw some true geeks and some brilliantly talented students (I mean the MBA schools and the best researchers are in a different category), he said the average level of the class was really low. So much for rigor.

The fate of America's schools reflects the future of a feminine primary society - a communist approach that serves sentiment, incompetence, no concept of winning and losing, and a total inability to discipline kids (especially boys) -- or let me be blunt, full blown retard.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

under communism (at least in ussr) the schooling system was years ahead of the states. i was on my 4th year of physics and chemistry in the 8th grade when i moved countries, and in the states they didn't even start chemistry until the 10th grade and that was only in the advanced placement class. i barely did any work here and i graduated top of class.

[–]MormonRedPill6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Teacher demographics are largely a function of economics. You have some people on either end of the curve who either are over- or under-qualified to be there, but most teachers are simply qualified. And what are the qualifications? Not genius-level thinking. Not a highly specialized skill set. Not out-of-the-box brainstorming that pushes humanity forward. Not the openness to risk taking, to expose oneself to failure. Not the fortitude to work 12 months of the year. In short, excellence is not demanded, and in general, the people filling the positions reflect this.

You make some good points in your tirade. People often complain about low teacher salaries, but there's no reason to increase compensation if performance remains static. One simple tweak that would alter teacher performance is the threat of termination, just like virtually every other workplace.

I personally don't think we'll see any big changes toward increasing instructor competency in the education environment so long as education is essentially a government monopoly. People follow incentives, and currently the incentive is, "extraordinary performance will be compensated at the same rate as mediocre performance." Universally increasing teacher salaries (like many propose) won't do anything to increase teacher performance unless salary increases are performance-based.

[–]jimbad058 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Universally increasing teacher salaries (like many propose)

Namely, teacher's unions and the spineless administrators spending other people's money.

[–]maggieG424 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

But what is performance based criteria for teachers? I ask this as a genuine question because your not dealing with a set standard of students that every teacher is teaching. I just worry it will end up with teachers who teach at schools with students who behave, whose parents respect education getting pay rises. While teachers in schools with students from homes with drug abuse, abject poverty, mental problems and extreme behavioral problems brought on by those factors will not. When in reality the teachers working in the schools with problems are actually working twice as hard.

[–]MormonRedPill2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a great question, and there's probably not a single answer. Part of the problem with poorer communities is that groupthink can lead to the stigmatization of being (or at least acting) educated, which obviously throws up significant hurdles when trying to implement schooling.

Another issue is that we force kids to learn subjects that they'll never think about again. Imagine that for thirteen years of your life, auto mechanic school was mandatory. You'd have a subset of the population who loved it and excelled. The rest would resent it and become middling mechanics.

School, for the most part, is teacher school. It appeals to the portion of the population that enjoys teaching, and everyone else hates it. I personally believe that educational optimization would require an institutional overhaul. You ask about disadvantaged communities and cashflow to them. Well I see it sort of like buying a more expensive saw so you can hammer nails better.

[–]Joe_Grows2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

More qualified people will compete for higher salaries.

[–]notonlyplace1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand where your coming from, and you should look out for you and you alone because you don't owe the world anything but believe me when I say this you saved more than few young boys lives.

Having a TRP teacher in the system saves fucking lives, now it's not your job, but realize that those children are trap in the same bullshit and boys growing up hating themselves.

Good teachers like you are rare but they make the fucking system

[–]tincock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol my middle school was a hell on earth run by three of the most miserable cunts you could ever meet. The only thing that made it fun was that the leadership instilled a spirit of rebellion in my friends and me. These absolute cunts man the My were so bad hahah

[–]u_dwg1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For the most part teachers aren’t solely doing it for the “kids” but love having full benefits and only having to work for 7 months of the year.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

and these motherfuckers want their pay raised. the idiots that taught me 20 years ago were already worthless and careless. there was maybe 2 teachers in the whole school that actually gave a shit. now these "teachers" fill half of instagram and tinder with their drunk ass partying pictures, dumber than a fucking monkey when you do actually talk to them. my friends that are parents have to deal with these people because of their kids. i hear nothing but horror stories about these people that are entrusted to teach children - the future of our society.

[–]father_goose67661 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You really hit the nail on the head when it comes to education.

It's really sad that quality teachers like yourself are hard to come by these days

[–]masteryimain341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the last bit, without leadership mediocrity rises to the top. If you aren’t leading your life, your lesser mediocre lazy self will rise back in place

[–]teeekuuu1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My last boss was a complete sheep to the corporate office, no need to say that I work at the corp office now, he is still dokng the same thing.

[–]listenhereboi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Always interesting hearing from other teachers.

I teach science at a super expensive private boys school in Australia and love my job. Teaching can be a nightmare depending on where you work though.

I'm assuming there is an incredible amount of disrespect for teachers in the US? I'm blown away by how many on here are saying stuff like "those who can do, those who can't, teach".

[–]NoChatNoNaCl1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This might explain further on what you described, Schools were never designed to teach kids, it is meant to dumb them down, deliberately

The Ultimate History Lesson: A Weekend with John Taylor Gatto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8

[–]Turtlphant1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you can complain here, but us at MGTOW feel ya too! we share more than we think.

[–]AllahHatesFags1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Any man who is thinking about getting a career in education right now is insane.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Principals have no agency and they do what the school board tells them, and my best educated guess is that the schoolboard has no agency and does what the government tells them to do, and then the government does whatever the corporate lobbyists pay them to do. And corporate lobbyists do whatever the corporations tell them what to do, and corporations do whatever the elite psychopath bankers tell them what to do. Hmmm.. alpha males are being destructive to workplace productivity? Time to turn everyone gay and put em all on meds so we have no workers unions and no resentment towards the psychopath bankers that run the world

[–]Bergatario1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Guy ruined a perfectly nice Albert Eistein letterhead and envelope. Isn't the "angry white man" rant getting old? Don't like your job. Quit. I'm sure there's some private school out there that's a better fit is this one is too "liberal".

[–]boom_bostic1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I hope you don’t mind me saying what I’m about to say. I don’t mean it to be offensive or anything negative, I just think you’re a man and that we men shouldn’t sugar coat anything (especially between like minded men).

I read your post and it is very true that there’s no real leadership in our schools. What got to me though is the fact that you just quit & gave up because of this problem. It seems like you’re actually displaying some of things that are wrong with schools. You change people and situations not by bitching about it but by being the change that is needed. What I see here is a man who was wore down (impacted) by this toxic environment and quit. It’s sort of like losing your frame with a woman...once you do that...you’re playing their game. To sum it up, you’re a red pilled man & I think you could have maintained your frame a little better is all I’m saying.

[–]McRoddy4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Your a boss and I really feel sorry for the kids who will have to deal with some poser bitch teacher. I had an airbrush teacher who really cared for me, she was like a hippie grandma and she encouraged by dope artwork littered with blunts and trippy effects :D

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Shit, check out what I do: http://ww.instagram.com/mredthefed

[–]McRoddy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

yoo, that's some fire shit man. Digging the Aztec Samurai

[–]Revolution8851 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just LOL at this. Teaching is a pretty sub human profession in general. Those who cant do, teach. Youre quick to accuse others of being this, but have you looked in the mirror? Youre in an inherently beta profession and you want to make it less beta? Get outta here.

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Socialism is ALWAYS a race to the bottom.

We have arrived.

[–]redpilledcuck0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

Enjoy your 40k tuition fees and 15k ambulance rides. Guess how much that costs you in Germany? Zero. I wish Amerilards would stop falling for the "-ism" bogeyman that their ever richer 1% overlords spoonfeed them and would realize that there is a better way.

[–]JourneyofDoves2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Guess how much that costs you in Germany? Zero

TIL: money magically grows out of thin air.

You are paying for those services ever since you got your first job, and you will be paying for those services long after you've used them.

[–]redpilledcuck0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I find it ironic that in a thread about the quality of the public education system, you're arguing for less funding for it.

In any case I prefer a society of more educated people versus one where people believe "evolution is just a theory", dinosaurs walked the Earth with man, the Earth is flat, and that Wakanda is real. In Germany, every title is listed before a person's name who earned it ("Prof. Dr. Ing.", etc.) and such people are treated with respect. In America, "PhD's aren't real doctors".

[–]Incel9876-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In any case I prefer a society of more educated people versus one where people believe "evolution is just a theory", dinosaurs walked the Earth with man, the Earth is flat, and that Wakanda is real. In Germany, every title is listed before a person's name who earned it ("Prof. Dr. Ing.", etc.) and such people are treated with respect. In America, "PhD's aren't real doctors".

Germany is a country of lemmings, which is why unless something radical changes it will cease to exist, in all but name, in 20-30 years. Your social "freebies" are given to your Muslim colonizers, taken by your state with force from your sterile, servile population. Germans would be better off questioning all authority like Americans; yes, like those dinosaur bones and all the soft tissue they keep finding in them, almost as if they're only thousands of years old, not hundreds of millions, and yeah, even questioning whether the Earth is really a globe rather than flat and enclosed under a dome, and whether the space program was faked.

[–]redpilledcuck0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

and yeah, even questioning whether the Earth is really a globe rather than flat and enclosed under a dome

You must be an absolute retard to even believe this, have you ever even flown in a plane? That's not "questioning", that's being too stupid to interpret information.

Germans would be better off questioning all authority like Americans

Yes, because that's exactly what Amerimutts do.

*watches Fox news*

*listens to TV preacher*

*comes in on Sunday because boss said so*

Fatclaps also get extremely butthurt if you tell them anything that contradicts what they absorbed as a child ("muh patriotism!" "muh jeebus!" "terrorism!" "muh guns"), how is that questioning authority when they unquestioningly cling to what some authority told them, in the face of reason?

[–]newName5434560 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

how much that costs you in Germany? Zero.

TIL in Germany you don't need to pay taxes at all.

[–]redpilledcuck0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would you care about taxes if you're a student?

[–]newName5434560 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You will when you start working. Actually, you should already, since sales tax is a thing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What an idiot. You still pay for these things. It’s just hidden in your taxes. And soon you’ll be paying for a whole lot more of it now that your country is overrun with Muslims who will demand services and contribute very little. Enjoy your socialism you fucking cuck.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This should be on a fucking billboard. Still mostly “better dead than red” cucks up in here. Spoonfed indeed.

[–]SKRedPill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women's brains are socialist. Men's capitalist.

[–]Greendende0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There needs to be serious reform centered around principles and gearing people to be ethical , moral people.

[–]Bear-With-Bit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing. I hope you fucking kill it in your art from here on. I have a sister who is also a teacher with a Ivy League Masters in Ed. The amount of the BS and drama she has to deal with amongst other teachers and administrators is unbelievable. She just wants to teach and help kids for fucks sake.

Power is the option to walk away.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Is this in private or public education?

[–]tincock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

For sure public I would assume at least

[–]AlfredKinsey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mind blown. You just peeled back the matrix.

If you're interested in teaching in any capacity still, look into tutoring, small classes, private education, etc. I'm making an assumption that you taught art at public school, but this is only based on personal experience and prejudice. I assume you jumped off the boat with another job or at least a reasonable safety net, but this kind of work can often be fit into anything, especially if you are teaching art classes.

I know doctors and other science teachers who earn many tens thousands of dollars to teach a single summer course. I also know private educators who earn in excess of $50/hr with a very nice workload, often working wherever they please.

[–]Chadster1130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Would like to see more of your art work!

[–]goatwithbeergoggles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If the democratic extension of opportunity is made a pretext for lowering standards, democracy is, insofar, incompatible with civilization. - Irving Babbitt

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

When Art teachers are in a majority of your persuasion, thats when Western Civ is fixed. Too many people go into the Arts because they are failed everythings who suck at life and are a waste of carbon molecules, then they congregate and achieve real influence. Business has allready been overrun by the same mediocrity, full on retards who spend 99% of their day on office politics and bully out the performers.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

maybe they're not retards and are just misguided. Many people have been taught since birth to have an activist mindset, rather than being guided towards attaining real useful knowledge (ie STEM). I think if there was more guidance from the top, and the government said "liberal arts is useless, our country needs more engineers", we would probably see a decline in arts graduates and a rise in engineering graduates. Singapore is a good example of a country that has better top down guidance. Lee Kuan Yew made a famous comment about how studying poetry is a luxury that Singapore cannot afford. They need people with real skills. The result is that Singaporeans mostly have useful degrees and their skills have given their country a good standard of living. In western countries, it's not simply that there is no guidance, but the government will also subsidize studying bullshit. I talked to a chick in a bar last night who is studying Shakespeare. Her specialty is something like "the super natural in literature". She also read Harry Potter. I'm listening to her and I'm thinking "wtf is going on in this country". And, she's getting all sorts of grants and scholarships from the government to study this nonsense. A good government gives good guidance. Smart people studying useless bullshit and going on to become deranged activists is a sign of bad leadership.

[–]djexit0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

theyre laughing all the way to the bank with all the money they wont have to pay you cause you wont retire with them

[–]djexit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

you need to stay and retire i think 6 years is a lot 4 more years, and make it all about ur afterschool class about "well mrs.whateverthefuck would you like the kids to not take a class afterschool? its totally within the rules you should teach a class afterschool too why dont you? do you not care about kids? why do you work here? and put her on the spot because fuck her

my dads a teacher and he's told me stories about how the "system" tries to get rid of people about to retire all the time and just in general try to make their lives hell to the point they either quit or get fired over a technicality, its horrible, because they treat the teachers like prisioners or slaves, if it gets too expensive cut the fat no matter what

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only rational response to the exploitation and sub-professional status teachers are saddled with, along with the massive quantity of mostly bullshit work they have to do, is non-participation. It’s the only thing that will bring about change. Until then it will be the ken of half-witted beneficiaries of cronyism/nepotism who can afford to keep the job because their partners are...aerospace engineers n shit. The “leaders” are pure beta, often tall betas, but pure BBBB’s who would shit their pants and run before ever standing up to a parent on behalf of a teacher or to a female teacher on behalf of a male. Don’t even get me started on Spec. Ed.

I’m done after 20 years. Got out and collect my pension before the dipshit state legislators take it away (It’s coming, see Oklahoma). Occasionally I consider a return to service and look at jobs—mostly offering the same pay as when I got my degree in 90 fuckin 6.

[–]SirKolbath0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh man. It's like I wrote this. I went through the same realization as a PE teacher a few years ago. After nine years in the classroom teaching everything from computer science to creative writing, I had enough and went back to school to get my master's in counterterrorism studies.

When I coached football, I ran sprints with my team. In PE, I lifted weights with my classes. I tried to do everything with my students so that they knew I was just blazing the trail, never asking them to do anything I wouldn't or couldn't do.

My administration changed grades for kids whose parents complained. I was ostracized by my colleagues for enforcing school rules they were supposed to enforce. I went to school board meetings and pointed out the hypocrisy and mismanagement - spending thousands of dollars on televisions for the elementary when the middle school didn't have a functional gymnasium... I was the bad guy. (Later, I realize I violated the 48 Laws)

You made the right choice. But man, every day I think of the kids I walked out on that I might have helped. The only consolation is that a drowning man has to save himself before he can save anyone else.

Good luck.

[–]Ill_Will70 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice work on the letterhead. Makes me feel a lot better that people like you exist out there. Your hard to find amongst all the fucking drones. You inspire me

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

John Taylor Gatto: Against School!

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're in for a world of hurt man.

It doesn't get any different. The military has had it for years. Brain drain, promotion to your level of incompetence etc.

I don't think you're going to see this absent anywhere. Best learn how to thrive within that environment

[–]FOldGG0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We are doomed. Leadership without vision and balls has us fucked. And, just step up and share; watch what happens. I certainly hope you will find a way to share your gifts that is meaningful to you and those you work with.

[–]Deep_freeze2020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go find a private school to teach at, you'll make more money and education is the actual goal.

[–]THEMIDLANDMAN0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read.....It's your time your wasting by Frank chalk. Outstanding inside expose on the modern education system.

[–]FrogSkater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Our university, along with many others, offers a PhD in educational leadership. Alas it may well be full of the kind of posers you describe. Public education is pitiful.

[–]justinjj10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a high school teacher as well, so kudos to you doing something that I've often thought about doing in just walking out. However, it's April, if you would have hung in there until the end of the year you could have resigned and been able to find another teaching job down the line if you wanted. At least here in Texas, it's almost impossible to get hired again after quitting mid-year. Right now you're probably thinking of never going back, but you never know what you might want to do in the future and it's probably not worth burning a bridge over IMO.

[–]-Samg381-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm proud of your decision. I recall High School being some of the worst years of my life due to the red tape and scare tactics, and am glad I'll never have to step into that building again. The incompetence in schools is absolutely abysmal, and I can safely say 98/100 teachers I've had the displeasure of being confined with have been underqualified, egotistical, inhumane intimidators. Everything about the average American school drips with sleaze, and something needs to change.

[–]supernaturalsecrets0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That school had 1 bad ass teacher and 100 slobs. Now? I feel sad for the kids

[–]drkinferno720 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go learn a trade, I guarantee the work is too hard to ever see these types ever again

[–]TheDevilsAdvokaat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to give free English classes after school for special students. Students who actually wanted to do extra classes. I would do it for free. And I would have total control - no naughty time wasters and class wreckers here; I would only teach the students I wanted to. Which means I would be able to teach at a more advanced level.

Then I found out the headmaster planned to charge parents for classes I was going to do for free.

So I cancelled and never tried to do it again.

[–]fakenate10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you can go into private schools.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For a long time, teaching has been female-dominated with Leftist doctrine being pushed throughout their education to become teachers. It's no surprise that teaching attracts a lot of Socialists and crazy feminists. Guys like /u/notadaddy will be driven out, if they don't self-select out of the career even earlier on.

[–]FrankieGGG0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

School isnt for smart people, or for dumb people for that matter. It's intended for the vast majority that are incredibly average.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gotcha, well I hope they gain more traction because I can only foresee violent backlash here in the future. Hope you guys have a turn for the better like we did here in the states. I wish the best of luck to you and your family. Dues Vult

[–]FlambeausGhost0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was position to teach at a university.....until the red-pilling process radically changed my politics. At that point I became persona non grata in my community and will have a hard time defending my dissertation to my PhD committee as a result

[–]corystereo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All I have to say is, posts like this are why I support charter schools and school voucher programs.

As someone who has a relative who teaches in an elementary school and has heard plenty of horror stories about the bureaucracy therein, my kids are absolutely not attending public schools.

The sooner they rot, the better. Go DeVos!

[–]Chaddeus_Rex0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

and not once did the principal say, “hey bitch, leave notadaddy alone and mind your own business.” The school system as is caves in to these horrible teachers,"

I do not understand this. Is the Principle a pussy that he can't tell them to piss off? Is it really that hard? Its one of the causes of school shooting tbh, administrators not being able to stand up for themselves and enforce their boundaries. Obviously they cannot pass this onto the kids and then the kids do not know what to do when they get bullied, have shitty self confidence and end up shooting schools.

Also, who's idiotic idea was it to allow young girls out of university to teach kids? What the fuck do they know about life? I do not care what degree they have, it doesn't mean shit. I have long been a proponent of having community elders teach kids - instead of having old people languishing after retirement, bring them into the schools, have them teach the kids and pass on their knowledge. Put them through some courses so that they can teach things like the sciences, this will keep them motivated to live and will keep them socializing and will keep their brains active. It will solve many of the problems we currently have with older people as well.

Or bring in some vets, give them jobs and make them valued members of society.

Or just adopt the Chinese education system. Cowardly fucking minsters and administrators.

[–]karmayogi2340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are actually doing your job with a sense of excellence... Good on you for quitting. I admire your integrity. This post is awesome.

[–]redlittleboot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you had no back up job, the only one who lost in this situation is you.

[–]ASQC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And then it hit me: I should become Heisenberg

[–]ExistentialDump0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

precisely the reason i'll be teaching overseas and avoiding the hell that is Western teaching.

[–]mikesteane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

EDUCATION IS FUCKED BECAUSE THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP No, it is doing exactly what it was set up to do: impede learning. Read John Tayolor Gatto's Underground History of American Education for more information.

[–]WholesomeAwesome0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

real education is in the freemarket. Not in the halls of the state.

[–]BluepillProfessor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I still don't get why you couldn't STFU and keep your head down. The vile cunt is a poser, most of them are posers and the system is rotten to the core.

But none of that has anything to do with you having a good job with great benefits for you that you like.

You let a nasty feminist throw you out of your job. It is like a wife 'forcing' her husband to sleep on the couch. Fuck that shit. Never leave your bed or your home, and I have to think we could add 'your job' to that list. Never leave your job just because a woman is making waves. Stand and fight don't quit.

[–]Gozsayin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's crazy how when we finally get an alpha guy in the school system they are the outliners, and often rub up against the "poser" already there. We need teacher like you but if it's time to move on it's time

[–]Zenitco0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like most PE teachers are terrible. Seems like they only care about their sports teams instead of the entire student body.

[–]bigbodybuilderr0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Should I put my future sons in private schools?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to play the game get to the top and THEN make the changes. Until then you should've bit your time. As for that old hag you could've made her life hell until she quit and for the principal?? Well I'm not going to teach you the dark triads. Instead you quit a great job with ample opportunity to make changes later on. I did it too man but I was much younger than you and it was some shitty call me center job

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah i know a guy who became a teacher to help the kids... then he fell out of favor with it.

sucks man he is good at it too

[–]PurplePheonicks0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I hope when I have kids I make enough money to homeschool them. Every teacher I've ever had has scaled from terrible to plain mediocre, spare a few actually good ones.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

is there a way for me to see some your art ?

[–]notadaddy 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]EvolvedA0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great rant about a system that has seen better times but what is your consequence? You quit your job? Really? You demand more responsibility and better leadership and your consequence is to throw it all away, to do the exact opposite of what you say that is needed here and leave the place for them? Do you have some backbone at all? You quit a job that you loved and that you were paid for well for what exact reason now?

And with that drawing you really showed them, that will teach them a lesson!

Wow, red pill lessons and role models all over the place here... /s

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[–]Scandinavianredpill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck finding another well paying job as an artist. This will be the worst decision of your life.

Here is a redpill for you: work isn't always rewarding, you some times just do it as.. you know... your fucking job. Doesn't mean you have to hate it, but this shit happens everywhere in some shape or form. Now what if you own your own business? Well after it has become successful you make the rules, but you will be working far more than you are doing currently and it's a big IF.

[–]ieatsoggytoast-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I loved your piece of art. As a junior in high school who got a 1400 on the SAT and felt like I haven’t been taught anything I relate all to well to your post.

[–]WhyStayInSchool-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Principals today are in the business of pleaseing everybody, the gays, the non-English speaking kids, the free lunches that end up in the trash

yeah god damn those people who want the human and civil rights protected!

"the gays?" are you serious man?

[–]jinglebells89-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can relate to this. I had a job that I got a promotion at. I beat out this girl who was a feminist, liberal lesbian. She made a big deal out of it and got me fired for getting people to say I was making sexist comments. The only time in my life I ever really seriously pondered the pros and cons of spending the rest of my life in jail over taking that b*tch out.

Thankfully, I didn't.

[–]Dmva100-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Most teachers, especially women, are scum of the earth. Thats why I laugh at school shootings.

Every once in a while a white knight man's up to his sacrificial duty to the chiilldrennn. Like that coach.


[–]GLADmyNAMEaintDICK 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Bro, you should see a psychologist.

[–]Dmva100-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do. I fuck her on that chaise lounge thing too

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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