If Squats Aren't A Part of Your Lifting Routine, They Should Be, or Why You May Want To Try 5X5 Stronglifts

erpii · 2014-11-12T07:03:40+00:00

I know of at least 6 people irl that do Mehdi's 5x5 strong lift (also has a nice app, btw). You do become bigger, but this program is aimed at beginners strength. You're not going to become huge by following this program, but you are going to become strong.

Every one of them, except for one who switched over to the wolverine, don't look like they can lift a lot. They look 'skinny' for lifters, but once they hit that squat rack they start squatting 120kg 5x5 like it's nothing.

So this program is arguably the best out there in terms of building a solid base, but I recommend switching over to a program like the wolverine where it's more isolation and bulking based so you can start becoming bigger and even stronger.

Edit: Because 5x5 stronglifts is a full-body workout, you will gain muscles evenly all across your body. This will help in daily activities and will get rid of back pain because your posture improves. Which is another huge reason to pick this one.

Remember, full-body workout first and isolation after.

ruckus17 · 2014-11-12T04:10:05+00:00

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GayLubeOil · 2014-11-12T05:05:10+00:00

None of you fuckers are eating right. Eat more steak and eggs. Food is more important than programming.

[deleted] · 2014-11-12T10:09:21+00:00

Believe it or not, doing Squats cured me from S-Scoliosis (16°).

After training for a few months with fairly heavy weights (~120kg) my back muscles became strong enough to push my bent spine into place (cracking sounds, felt reaaally fucked up). Now for the first time in my life I can wake up in the morning without having a locked up lower back and pain the entire morning!!!

redpillbanana · 2014-11-12T05:33:30+00:00

I'm a huge advocate of paused squats: http://www.wellbuiltstyle.com/how-to-build-unreal-squat-strength-with-the-paused-squat/

These are even more effective than normal squats, while also reducing the amount of weight on your back.

The one thing about squats - if you get good at them, you will have trouble finding pants that fit.

[deleted] · 2014-11-12T12:46:49+00:00

Solid post and I absolutely agree with the point that Squats are essential to any weightlifting program. I follow a hybrid program of SS & SL as I’ve found that it provided me with the best means to achieving my goals strength and aesthetic wise.

I haven’t made any posts about lifting as I assumed that lifting was step 1 in any man’s dabbling in TRP. I’m glad you brought this topic back to the forefront because it seems that a lot of guys didn’t know this.

While I’m blown away that this is common knowledge, maybe a few guys will add it to their lifting regimen.

More to the point of where I’m going with this, MEN you need to be lifting weights. If you aren’t deadlifting, squatting, bench pressing, and throwing in some running or bodyweight exercises; what the fuck?!

You need to be a confident male in today’s society to keep from falling victim to the trend of feminized males. Lifting weights, gaining strength, and looking better is the path to increased confidence. There is a body and mind connection that it is critical to develop. Work your body and your mind in order to reach your full potential.

Squat!

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yesisaidyesiwillYes · 2014-11-12T08:00:08+00:00

"There is simply no other exercise, and certainly no machine, that provides the level of central nervous activity, improved balance and coordination, skeletal loading and bone density enhancement, muscular stimulation and growth, connective tissue stress and strength, psychological demand and toughness, and overall systemic conditioning than the correctly performed full squat."

-Mark Rippetoe

p0tts · 2014-11-12T05:57:46+00:00

When I see stuff like this, while I recognize it's probably true, it's so disappointing to read.

There are a lot of people who, for health reasons, cannot do squats.

I had some pretty bad problems in my back. My doctor has specifically said that squats are forbidden for me, or any such motion.

The vast majority of stuff I read about weights is about how we have to squat. "Starting Strength?" Squats every day. Stronglifts? More like squatlifts.

I love(d) lifting but I medically can't do squats or deadlifts or any such compound movement that requires such a motion with your back and legs. Yet every single thing I read says that those are the only things that count.

AntixD · 2014-11-12T06:04:43+00:00

Great post buddy,I don't know why the fuck people are bitching and saying that there are fitness related subs,as if you shouldn't have posted this here,this is more useful than "fr:got pussy,am alpha" We need more information like this especially for the new comers

masturbator9000 · 2014-11-12T08:20:07+00:00

Squats are a great exercise, but honestly they're not "that one exercise that will change your life". You should be recommending compound lifts in general, not just squats. If you focus too much on Squats, you're headed for T-Rex mode.

Also, I always roll my eyes when I read someone posting about "do this exercise/routine and your body will release more testosterone". I mean seriously, the difference is insignificant. If you want to raise your testosterone levels, sleep plenty and eat right, that will actually make an impact. Switching from leg press to squats won't.

Oh and your 5x5 routine is great for increasing strength, but if you're a hobby lifter who just wants to pack on muscle and doesn't care about strength, you should do a hypertrophy routine (8-12 rep range). Not a strenght routine like this one. Hypertrophy routines are NOT "bullshit routines". They just serve another purpose.

gohammer3 · 2014-11-12T06:20:04+00:00

This doesn't work for everyone. Personally I can gain tons of strength on these type of programs but my muscles won't grow unless I increase the volume and intensity. My legs didn't start growing until I increased the reps to 8-12 and lowered my rest time.

riverraider69 · 2014-11-12T08:14:15+00:00

Plus ass, of course. One of the most looked-at by women body parts - if you have it.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-11-12T12:42:22+00:00

A post about improving yourself, in my subreddit. Outrageous.

Came to chime in excellent choice of routine. Be prepared its going to get tough at the end both physically and mentally when you are reaching the point that you can't just keep linear gaining.

Depending on your body fat and goals etc at this point, id recommend switching to the lean gains reverse pyramid style of training for a cut. Get down to 10% and then bulk away again. You can use the lean gains template for working out, or another good intermediate workout is texas method.

Please be careful with your diet. Dont follow stupid bodybuilding.com advice with 500+ surpluses a day, id recommend start at 100 calories and work from there. Essentially what you want is the minimum number of excess calories that allows you to continue to recover and progress.

Can't think of much more advice than to go out there and kill it.

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Relevant Resource

myschadenfreude · 2014-11-12T14:06:43+00:00

Another vote here for StrongLifts. Great program for gaining usable strength.

TL;DR - SQUAT MORE

ruckus17 · 2014-11-12T19:09:47+00:00

I bounce between squat or DL as the best overall exercise for anyone to do.

Squats are probably "better" for you for a variety of reasons listed here, but there is just something primal about the DL.

You cant' fucking cheat the DL. You can have bad form, and fuck up your back, but there is no 1/4 or 1/2 DL like there is a squat. You have to pick the damn weight up, no short cuts. It's more of a test of your will and determination than it is your physical capabilities. I get so psyched up before every lift, that I feel like taking on a sabertooth tiger with my bare hands. Few things compare to the accomplishment feeling you get when you set a DL PR.

CognitiveVortex · 2014-11-12T07:26:51+00:00

Great info. Squats or Deadlifts every day boys. Start your workout with squats, its the most surefire way to get the testosterone pumping, which in turn increases your gains and gets you pumped for the rest of your workout.

You want a visible six pack and adonis belt? Squats are the answer. Think about it, you have a heavy as fuck weight on your shoulders, you're working everything below your chest.

At first they will suuuck, focus on form and keep increasing your weight, the payoff is worth it.

[deleted] · 2014-11-12T05:13:27+00:00

Fluctuations throughout the day/=actual testosterone increase.

In general the lifts you list are great for maximizing efficiency and activating more muscle groups, but they aren't any more "necessary" than progressive overload during any range of motion that activates the targeted muscle group.

VegasHostTre · 2014-11-12T06:11:21+00:00

I don't know I like going to the gym. This program says to go only 3 times a week. I know people who do this type of training though, they got pretty good results so it's good if you don't have alot of time.

SquatsAndEggs · 2014-11-12T06:25:42+00:00

Squats may be the best full body excersize, but they aren't the best for pure leg hypertrophy. If your main goal is size over strength, do what Dorian Yates did:

Well, I was a big squatter in my early days. That’s what everyone did and it was macho exercise as well. It was like if you don’t squat then you are not even a real man. That was the attitude in the gym. And, of course, Tom Platz was the big guy around back then, with his massive legs and his preaching about squats. But there were times when I was forced to look at alternatives – from the free weight squat anyway. I would always pre-exhaust before I got onto the compound exercises, but I did leg press, and hack squatting, or squatting on a Smith machine instead of going to squats. And I found I got much better development from these exercises than from just heavy squatting. It depends a lot on your structure, but it (the squat) didn’t suit me. So hack squats, leg presses and pre-exhaustion with leg extensions.

1761 · 2014-11-12T07:24:51+00:00

I just started stronglifts about a week ago, I had never done squats in my life before that. Not too far in yet but I've heard it's a great program, and it's simple enough to stick to. That's the biggest thing for me.

dabayer · 2014-11-12T08:23:38+00:00

Always combine leg day with the muscle you want to train most (Abs or biceps for example). Leg day is a huge stress for the body if done right, also because it is the biggest muscle group in body. So the body will produce more testo and growth hormones. Use this to make your training more efficient.

UserNumber47 · 2014-11-12T10:34:47+00:00

Squat or Deadlift -> Push -> Pull. Throw in some accessory movements if you feel like it but that's pretty much all you need to do. Doesn't get simpler and more effective than this.

dakkr · 2014-11-12T11:28:32+00:00

Been doing 5x5 for about 10-11 months, can confirm, is awesome.

You'll hear a lot of people trashing it for "plateauing" - You'll need to actually do it 3 times a week at full effort for 6-18 months to reach this point so don't worry. Has been around for a long time - Arnolds mentor developed it (I think).

Goldfulgore · 2014-11-12T12:48:28+00:00

Great post ! I have added squats 1.5 times a week in my program because I learned this 6 months ago. If you're a natural then this along with fat consumption should be in the top priorities to maximize volume. (Along with adequate protein consumption)

Ex_Nunc · 2014-11-12T12:56:31+00:00

I agree with OP about squats.

Concerns about turning into a T-Rex on SS or SL are valid. I did SS for a long time, which caused me to burst out of my pants without the equivalent happening for my t-shirts.

Once you're past the ultimate noob stage, Greyskull Linear Progression is worth to take a look at. The program places squats and deadlifts last instead of first, never together on the same day and most variations have you doing 2 upper body lifts (1 push/1 pull). This causes the upper body to be worked with both more intensity and volume. I'm quite happy with my own results so far.

Moneybags99 · 2014-11-12T13:15:59+00:00

Been doing it for 9 months now, feeling and looking mich better, getting compliments is pretty cool too.

ocho-muerte · 2014-11-12T13:31:07+00:00

spread your focus to all squats not just high bar back squats. Stretch all the time, practice 3rd world squatting to help get in the hole (I see far too many people 1/2 or even 1/4 squat), do high bar and low bar back squats and front squats. Also hack squat! Too much of just one focus will give you an over development in one area, and you'll end up having weird looking quads like DLB.

but that's just my 2 cents

alpha_n3rd · 2014-11-12T13:48:08+00:00

Great post, and apropos, I was just reading up on stronglifts 5x5 yesterday.

satanicpriest13 · 2014-11-12T13:53:46+00:00

Finally a fitness thread for like minded people. I have a question.

I've always been a strong advocate of squats, doing 5x5 for 6 months now. I feel my arms and back are lacking, and want to start the 5 day a week power muscle burn.

Any advice? Reviews? And are heavy squats once a week enough?

MetacognitiveMan · 2014-11-12T14:13:08+00:00

Also, don't limit yourself to back squats. For me, front squats are just as important. I include Olympic Weightlifting in my workout, though.

Slydermv · 2014-11-12T14:42:23+00:00

Strong Lifts is a great starting program.

But once you get past noob gains and are really putting up weight doing these compound excersizes the same day will destroy you.

Squats and deadlifts the same day, just isn't possible, in my experience. The below advice is how I've advanced in the last 4 years of lifting

Get some sort of split maybe after about of year of strong lift and ensure your program has SQUATS, DEADLIFTS, OVERHEAD PRESSES and BENCHPRESSES and ROWS

Split the days up accordingly so you aren't killing your shoulders or lower back, use proper form (toss the ego and use lower weight if you have to), and do your compound exercises first.

On a chest day, do bench before isolation exercises like flys

On leg day do Squats before a leg press or leg extension. Make the key exercises above the core of your lifting program and add in whatever isolation stuff you want where you feel weak and in a way that makes sense.

I started full body 3 days a week, then started push pull splits once I wasn't able to do full dead lifts and squats on the same day, and now am into a 4 day a week chest/bi - leg - shoulder/calf - back/tri split so I can do more work on smaller muscles in the arms and strengthen shoulders for my heavy lifts.

It's a progression. 5x5 and starting strength is awesome for beginners, but listen to your body and make changes as required.

Rhad42 · 2014-11-12T14:54:10+00:00

I injured my lower back in a deadlifting accident, and it took me years of physical therapy to get back to normal. I still find it painful to squat, and I have to go lighter on deadlifts than I used to.

It's no big loss, I always hated squatting, tbh.

Occams_Shiv · 2014-11-12T14:54:42+00:00

Great Post. I've been thinking of making a similar one myself. I'm in week 9 of SL now, and it has changed my life more than any other workout program I've ever done. The linear progression, where every time you lift heavier than you ever have before, has me leaving the gym with a dopamine high I never got from weightlifting for "burn" or "pump."

I literally can't wait to get back to the gym.

I think SL5x5 and Starting Strength should be on the sidebar. The advice to "lift" is simple and to the point, but not specific enough. If you already lift, it merely serves as validation. If you don't currently/never have, then one of these programs is absolutely what you should start with.

One small piece of advice I would add: in addition to practicing form with the empty bar, I practice dropping the weight on the spotting bars as part of my warmup. I practice this every time I squat. You don't want the first time you dump the weight to be under a bar too heavy to lift. You want to have done it before, and repetition is the mother of skill.

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[deleted] · 2014-11-12T15:35:49+00:00

Squat, close deals, date a plethora of women. What I live by.

Dr_Wally · 2014-11-12T15:37:28+00:00

Thanks for the post. I think I'll give it a try in my apartments gym.

youngbulker · 2014-11-12T16:25:48+00:00

I literally see myself and maybe one other guy at my gym squatting (properly).

There is no way people are actually squatting right. If you're doing SS or SL there is no fucking reason you can't squat 350 full ROM after 3-4 months of work.

No one is going to do this though because it fucking sucks to squat a whole lot of weight.

Farabee · 2014-11-12T17:12:24+00:00

I love StrongLifts. It has literally changed my life. I've lost 45 lbs in 2.5 months with SL5X5 and fasted cardio and I look 100% more amazing than I have in years.

GuitarHero07 · 2014-11-12T18:22:32+00:00

Already asked in another thread, but the more opinions the better. I've been lifting religiously for 2 and a half years now. Is this program well suited to people who already have a decent amount of lifting experience?

I'm 5'7, 155 and I can squat 265 x 10 x 3 right now (90 second break). I'm a little bit concerned about squatting and deadlifting heavy ass weights up to 3 times per week.

I've plateaued and I'm looking to change up my routine.

RepostTony · 2014-11-12T19:32:34+00:00

Since starting this sub, I'm now benching 315 lbs and squatting the same. I have to do a FR, but I have so much to write. Need to set a little time aside to describe how much this sub has changed my life.

Its fucking incredible!

egoisenemy · 2014-11-13T01:32:01+00:00

Stronglifts is a great program: simple, efficient, effective. But remember, 80% diet 20% exercise: more work is done in the kitchen than in the gym.

let_terror_reign · 2014-11-13T02:06:34+00:00

First time squat two 6 weeks ago, struggled on empty bar. Yesterday, 135lbs. Progress progress. And yeah, it's not visible OP. Takes more time. But you are getting stronger.

[deleted] · 2014-12-08T15:51:22+00:00

I started 5x5 a little over a month ago. I used to avoid squats because I had bad lower back since I was little (something wrong with my spine). Now I love squats. Increased my squat weight from 120 to 205 in a little over a month.

Plus the added benefit, I've never felt better, or looked better. Fat just seems to melt off and you're left with a strong chiseled all around physique. Old school is my new thing.

RP_Student · 2014-11-12T04:43:56+00:00

I'm a little past the point where starting strength makes sense but I make sure every exercise has at least one (usually 2) of: Deadlift, Squats, Military Press, Bench Press, Pullups, and Bent-Over Row. These six, preferably with a barbell but mixing in dumbbells is a good idea, are all a beginner need to do to start out. The 5X5 aspect isn't a bad idea but I usually just do a warmup plus 4 sets and do a 10-8-6-4. I've gotten pretty good results.

Nynx12 · 2014-11-12T05:19:49+00:00

I've been using the strong lifts program for about a month now and have seen more progress already than I had in the whole year I spent doing lower weight and max reps. Definitely recommend it.

rptastic · 2014-11-12T07:57:01+00:00

I did Stronglifts for a year. At its base it's a modified version of Starting Strength, and the dude who came up with it milks it for all its worth.

It produces results, but don't sign up for his bullshit members site and don't follow his warm-up advice at high weights. You'll end up exhausting yourself and spending an hour before getting to your actual proper lift weight.

I've since switched to high rep/low weight standard 3 day split and have noticed better results tbh but your mileage may vary.

usku · 2014-11-12T06:31:22+00:00

Strong lifts 55 is a fantastic base to any workout regime. I use an expanded 55 3 days a week and arms/shoulders three days a week.

It'll change your life to lift a little weight. You feel good, you look good, and when the testosterone levels climb, your attitude changes. You're a lot less likely to put up with shit tests from women and men.

garlicextract · 2014-11-12T06:42:31+00:00

Anyone do dumbbell squats, and have tips for them? I can squat about 75kg/170lbs, but haven't done dumbbell squats. It's not like I can hold up two 85lb dumbbells, what's the technique here?

ruboski · 2014-11-12T07:36:12+00:00

I'd also recommend ICF (Ice Cream Fitness) - it's an altered version of the 5x5 with a few extra accessories and incorporates more muscle groups.

Although it takes a bit longer to complete compared to the 5x5.

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pl231 · 2014-11-12T17:56:34+00:00

Recommend starting strength not stronglifts. Guy behind stronglifts is a pussy that has trained for 10 years and squats like 400. He essentially just stole the ideas without understanding them. All for 5x5, not for SL

boscoist · 2014-11-12T18:13:04+00:00

You missed the most important part of SL 5x5.

Did you make 5x5 of ___ lift last time?

if yes, add 5lbs

if no, maintain weight

---if this fails, pull 10% and build up again.

winnnnnnnnn · 2014-11-12T18:58:37+00:00

I 100% co-sign this thread... but admittedly have a love affair with lifting now thanks to you guys and the fact that it consistently raises your SMV in real time makes it addictive. This has pretty much been my routine since the beginning but I did a lot of research and wanted to shit on my ex lol petty I know but I figure its how lots of young guys get into lifting in the beginning. I also wanted something to be confident about that people couldn't deny me. Something that exist objectively in reality. Again petty but I get off on the primal response people have to seeing visible cuts and muscle separation. Rather its admiration, fear, or acknowledgement of strength. It gives you a sort of smug confidence. Good for new guys. I started about maybe 8-10 months ago at 146 lbs and just the bar on all major lifts. I'm now at 157-161. For maxes 225 on squat, 315 on deadlift, 175 on bench, 115 overhead press and I'm proud to say lifting will most likely solidify itself as a permanent positive outlet in my life and progression as a man. I saw it a lot when I came here and now I'm part of the cult new guys do yourself a favor and lift. The guaranteed health and strength benefits are immeasurable. If your a skinny guy like me that's naturally cut then it'll be real easy for you to get addicted to gains because the mirror will motivate you and bring out your vain side lol. That said I'm upping my game after I accumulate 12 months total strength training. I'm giving this bullshit regular gym 2 more months and I'm out and moving to a hardcore blacktop barbell/powerlifting gym. Learning the snatch and going full force at bulking. Excepting the bit of body fat that comes with it then cutting so I can reach my ultimate physique and strength goals. I honestly can't fucking wait... The gym clearly taught me a thing or two about discipline and the rewards that come with it and I'm smiling because I know that body is mine and all I have to do is keep climbing the proverbial strength mountain doing what I'm currently doing.

[deleted] · 2014-11-12T20:46:33+00:00

I concur. I've been doing 5x5 for a few months and I'm squatting at 135.

My. Calves. Are. SICK!

In my other posts I talk about my increased confidence so I can vouch for this as well.

beepbeepwow · 2014-11-12T21:45:09+00:00

i had lower back problems before is there any other alternatives to Squats?

TheDarkTriad · 2014-11-12T22:04:13+00:00

I've been doing a 10x10 routine myself. Definitely see the gain in mass.

stickfiguresk · 2014-11-12T23:03:59+00:00

SL 5X5 and SS are good starting routines, but two things:

Rippetoe is the best person to learn to squat from hands down. His break down of technique, and more importantly, his explanation of why it's good technique is sound. Say what you like about strength programs and rip's take on diet, but the above is undeniable.

Practical Programing is a book on how to build a routine. It is mandatory reading for anybody looking to get past the novice strength level. Any strength routine that's worth a damn is based on the principles laid out in Practical Programing. If you squat over 315 and you haven't read PP, you're doing yourself a disservice. MADCOW 5X5 and 5/3/1(to name a couple popular and proven routines) is built around the same ideals laid out by PP, which is based on Bill Starr's 5x5.

[deleted] · 2014-11-12T23:35:30+00:00

Since it's sort of relevant: is Ice Cream 5x5 a good program? I'm a noob who started with stronglifts two months ago but then switched to Ice Cream after two weeks because I read that it is better for aesthetics/hypertrophy.

watersign · 2014-11-13T00:51:37+00:00

I always used to do legs on Mondays to get those TESSS levels up. One thing ive noticed is after doing these workouts is that I would be ridiculously horny.

[deleted] · 2014-11-13T14:31:24+00:00

There are good things to be said for high rep/low weight and low rep/high weight lifting.

If you're a regular Joe, the 5x5 program is perfect.

If you have been lifting for a few years incorporate those heavy barbell exercises sure, even do them first in your workout, but add isolation exercises with high rep low weight afterwards.

PM me if you want to talk routines, I'm down to help out. I've been lifting for almost ten years. While I'm by no means an Adonis I've clearly made and kept gains.

Squat, Pendlay Row, Over Head Barbell Press and focus on your diet! When it comes to losing weight and getting cut as with most things there is a hierarchy Diet>Lifting>Cardio

thenarrrowpath · 2014-11-13T17:19:49+00:00

Started the 5x5 four weeks ago and I feel great. I definitely recommend lifting on Fridays. Most people don't get out to the bars until 10 anyways, so time shouldn't matter. Plus you feel so much energy. I feel in state by the time I get home and if I keep up the energy and goofiness I get better reactions from people throughout the night. Don't do the machines, there useless.

CapitalG · 2014-11-13T17:20:55+00:00

I started the 5X5 app solely because of TRP, and I have had some incredible gains over the past four-five months. Thinking of switching to madcow soon, but I can't recommend the 5X5 app enough. I moved to 3X5, but I'm currently squatting over 400 pounds. Stuff that I used to fail on is now a warm-up set for me.

Newbies - download the app and get lifting. Make the investment in a good gym - not Planet Fitness, a gym that has free weights and benches. Trust me, it works.

Thizzlebot · 2014-11-13T22:05:02+00:00

I've done a few programs over the years and 5x5 has made me stronger in a shorter period of time than anything else. Highly recommended.

forgotmydamnpass · 2014-11-12T06:59:01+00:00

One bad thing about squats is the number of pants and jeans you'll have to go throuhg, you'll also probably have to deal with the humiliation of popping your pants at the gym, happened to me twice

Dillett7799 · 2014-11-12T14:04:38+00:00

All this information, 5x5 is only a starter workout, it's only 3 times a week. Dude, I lift EVERY DAY. I want to lift every day. There's so many muscles in your body, you can lift every day. I take Sunday's off sure. But I can't find a workout that fits me. 5x5 seams too easy, and I'll do it, but the 4 other days I'm gona smash my chest biceps calfs forearms shoulders and traps. I need some guidance to get away from my current routine which seams to be doing great

Chest/tris Back/bies Legs Forearms, shoulders, traps Rest Chest tris Back bies Repeat

Saizo · 2014-11-12T14:10:07+00:00

What about the rule of thumb for working on a body part and letting it rest for 48 hours before working on it again? From doing squats everyday, all you do is put strenuous pressure on your lower back and legs, with little time to recover.

ValarMorghulis90 · 2014-11-12T04:49:02+00:00

I hate deadlifts, don't do them. Kept getting shin splints. Not about it. Squats are boss though, I def recommend them and bench press (or dumbbell press). I don't feel deadlift is needed personally. I think two mins between sets is a shit load of time too. I'd shoot for 1 min or 1.5 at most. Push yourself.

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Indianbro · 2014-11-12T17:07:13+00:00

The bigger your quads the smaller your dink bro. Girls will not be mirin'.

Edit: yall are sick kunts

Enjoy_The_Decline · 2014-11-12T20:36:57+00:00

I hate these lifting posts on here, theyre fucking retarded

Lifting will not take you from 500ng/dl test levels to 1,000ng/dl levels

Squats are not greatest exercise, i squat 500lb and dead 600lb and have SHIT legs

Leave the lifting posts to r/weightroom and /r/bodybuilding, and hormone talk to r/steroids

Title	If Squats Aren't A Part of Your Lifting Routine, They Should Be, or Why You May Want To Try 5X5 Stronglifts
Author	JP_Whoregan
Upvotes	180
Comments	302
Date	November 12, 2014 4:03 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2m1gtt/if_squats_arent_a_part_of_your_lifting_routine/
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