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Invoking power words like Respect and Honor

April 11, 2016


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Title Invoking power words like Respect and Honor
Author beachbbqlover
Upvotes 53
Comments 13
Date April 11, 2016 10:34 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–]Modredpillschool[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link

You brush on the subject but never touch it. Please elaborate before you post.

[–]herewegoaga1n17 points18 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

"All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." -Winston Churchill

We live in the shadows of great men. We aspire to be like them in a society that rejects greatness for conformity and mediocrity.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So many great lines from Churchill. "The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

[–]AircraftWelder4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love that quote. It's one that keeps me going.

[–]MonkeyDFreecs5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People also seem to confuse respect with basic human decency towards one another.

I've seen a lot of "You have to earn my respect type" people, and from my experience it really is just an excuse for them to be assholes to people they don't get instant value out from.

[–]robertpaulsontitties1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Honor is one of the most misunderstood ideas of our time. As understood through modern pop culture honor means something akin to adherence to an ethical code or fulfilling some set of requirements. This isn't what honor means at all. A weak man doesn't have honor, even if he says his prayers and eats his peas. If someone has honor, it means that they have a particular dispensation of their reputation such that other men cannot insult them or strike at them with impunity.

[–]beachbbqlover1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You'd have to have a reputation to begin with, and that's sort of my point. Be more than a basic bitch thug. That's your value.

It often serves better if a friend defends you on your behalf. A bit demeaning to get in the mud every time some impotent asshole has an opinion.

[–]robertpaulsontitties0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are things in life of value that are not honor, but I would still exclude those things from the meaning of honor. Honor means you have a reputation of being capable of defending yourself and your own. It is very much closely tied to potential or actual interpersonal or group conflict.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or, alternatively, they are morally charged words used to manipulate people into doing what you want. By themselves, they have zero power. It all depends if you feel bad when someone says you owe them respect or they demand obedience. I encourage everyone to make up their own minds on this issue, and act on what they think is in their best interest, not because a powerful, sacred set of words are invoked.

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

they are morally charged words used to manipulate people into doing what you want.

Your reputation/honor/respect is no more morally charged than your SMV, and the two are pretty close. SMV factors in more how pretty you are.

By themselves, they have zero power.

Like any other communication or idea.

when someone says you owe them respect or they demand obedience.

Kind of clarified that neither case is sensible already.

not because a powerful, sacred set of words are invoked

Way to miss the point.

The words people use have meaning. When everyone says "apple" every time a round fruit comes to mind the word becomes less meaningful. When all of the words that define mens value have this happen, not only is it harder to talk, but the concepts don't distinctly exist.

[–]lakalahehe0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

men have no intrinsic value. Don't abuse or allow people to abuse this word against you, because it is the true value of men

What do you mean by abusing this word against a men?

[–]beachbbqlover0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sidebar teaches that women have much higher intrinsic value than men. Man's value (not just SMV, but general value) is closely related to his reputation/honor/respect. Without any sort of reputation or honor, you're basically just another ugly mug.

Devaluing your reputation/honor altogether is about as effective at making you worthless as portraying a woman as a chlamydia infected fat skank.

So my point was to define and mind your reputation, and avoid abusing words that destroy your own value. It's painfully like a chick accidentally blurting out skank every time she meant steak.

[–]RedSugarPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I heard that language is purposefully vulgarized to change the meaning, and therefore the interpretation of common knowledge. Vulgarities are the work of Satan, and should be vigorously resisted--to keep common sense with the commoners. Thanks for the lesson.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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