Letting women misbehave

Rian_Stone · 2018-10-03T16:12:17+00:00

Wonderful expectation management. Can't remember if it was PFP by James franco, or something older in the PUA. The idea of signalling short term or long term behaviours needs to be congruent with what you want, otherwise women get mixed messages.

If you want or have a fucktoy, stop worrying about her cooking skills.

JamesSkepp · 2018-10-03T16:09:12+00:00

Very good post.

Remember that plating works both ways. If you're having "casual sex" with her, she's having "casual sex" with you. That's the point of having a plate in the first place. If you want a plate behaving like an LTR, you don't want a plate - you want an LTR, which means you are still in the scarcity/BP land.

You THINK you want a plate, but your emotions tell you you want an LTR. This means there's work to be done, especially in the department of inner game: watch out for signs of oneitis, it's often connected to one specific plate, not all of them ("out of 3 plates, she's the coolest, hottest etc." - then you begin to project your own bias from comparing her to the other 2 plates, it's almost like a feedback loop).

Auvergnat · 2018-10-03T19:20:05+00:00

I am reporting this post immediately for lack of misogyny. As the sidebar says, this community is dedicated to highly offensive content. Please stay on topic.

Quaternionz · 2018-10-04T01:01:09+00:00

Great post. I highly agree. This is the attitude I have now with three different plates, and it's wonderful. If a plate snaps at me habitually or tries to go into bitchy controlling shrew mode then I'll drop her. But if being around her is fun then I don't try to fix her or groom her for an LTR.

My thought pattern is usually like this:

Oh, you had cake for dinner and you're drinking soda. Fine, I'll keep you around while you're still young and naturally thin, but as soon as you start getting fat we're done. So go ahead and wash down that cake with your soda, enjoy.

Oh, so you never work out, and you're not down when I suggest hanging out at the gym. That's fine, you're physically attractive enough now at 24, but when you start aging and getting flabby I'm done.

Oh, so you never finish meals and you're a picky eater. Or you're a vegetarian, or a vegan. That's fine, but I'm not having kids with someone who is malnourished. I still like spending time with you and having sex with you though. Eat how you want, I don't mind.

Oh, so you're 30 and you're still complaining about how horrible men are, and about how there aren't any good men around. You bailed on four decent loving relationships in your 20's because you have "high standards." That's fine, I'll listen to you vent and just nod along. We'll have some wine and have sex. You're still hot for 30. Enjoy dying alone with your cats and your high standards.

Starfuckingman · 2018-10-03T22:50:23+00:00

The fact is, the overwhelming majority of women in the world are not girlfriend or wife material.

Honestly, so many guys miss this. Since they've only dated or plated garbage BPD thots then they see guys who are dating beautiful polite classy women, or guys like me who've been married for 15 years to a sexy respectful obedient wife and their brains get turned inside out.

99% of women are varying degrees of worthless. Do not try to turn a hoe into a housewife, hoes don't act right. Take the hoe to a hotel.

Also, it's not my fault you haven't met a high quality female (who wants to fuck you) yet. That's your problem, bucko.

HumanSockPuppet · 2018-10-03T18:16:04+00:00

Expecting women to behave like good girlfriends when the overwhelming majority of women are simply not girlfriend material is a recipe for disappointment.

That's not a reason to give up on your natural role as bitch herder.

I've just completed a guide on how to train women to be the servile manservants they evolved to be. As soon as the top links have had some exposure, I will post it.

TruthSeekaaaaa · 2018-10-03T18:52:13+00:00

I think most men have the same issue I have. There's a gold post on how to manages bitches hero on TRP, where basically stated that ANY girl should start at a level 'plate' and she gotta climb the ranks. The error I commit is to autorank the girl as FWB or better if we just have casual sex. This is a recipe for disaster clearly because you assign a rank she doesn't deserve probably and you'll get disappointed, every single time. Obv she isn't her mistake, it's mine

JamesSkepp · 2018-10-03T21:18:07+00:00

This is pure genius. Absolute gold.

I've had a similar experience... we both agreed to just be fuck buddies.

However, she then added an extra clause... and demanded we both be exclusive... i.e. no fucking anybody else.

I agreed with this, but then she misbehaved and stayed at another dudes house, so I cut her off.

I believe that sometimes, cutting your losses with your dignity intact is important.

But I'd be interested to hear another strategy I could have used.

2018-10-03T16:38:09+00:00

Lots of valuable posts on RP today. I think what you say has broader implications for life itself - in some situations, the more we wrestle with control, domination, and bending reality to our will, the greater we increase our chances of being punished when things unfold out of our favor. We create our own suffering by this means.

2018-10-03T18:22:35+00:00

She’s talking with other men. Possibly having sex with other men. She talks about other men around him. She’s glued to her phone instead of giving all of her attention to him.

I think that men here tell "Next" not because of these reasons but because the girl is 1. Not showing enough interest, 2. Exaggerating her value and acting like she's a little princess (and so you might end up investing too much considering her REAL value), 3. Her wanting you to be her beta orbiter.

Ultimately, she’s just not very respectful of him.

I don't think that respect is the right word. Thinking that girls will only talk to you, sucking only your dick and so on is BluePill thinking. You can't expect that to happen. That's just hypergamy basics, and we need to accept that and do not let these behaviors upset us. (This is clearly more true for plates, but AWALT)

But I get what you mean.

Many guys (me included) when they get shit-tested hard they lose interest in the girl, that's probably what you are referring to. Honestly fucking a girl who treats you like shit is just a part of scarcity mindset. Again, guys here tell other guys to "next" so they start learning to be the prize and being able to walk away.

You can fuck her and just let go her shitty behavior (which could just be a shit-test), I guess that choice depends on each individual.

DeeplyDisturbed1 · 2018-10-04T12:06:13+00:00

This may be the simplest, clearest, most raw and harsh red pill I have ever read here.

If all men learned this simple life lesson from day 1, and worked hard on themselves, there would be no need for this sub.

omega_dawg93 · 2018-10-04T13:00:57+00:00

what i tell women when the dating starts: "you will have every opportunity to show me EXACTLY who you are... just be who you are."

you'd be surprised at how most 'bad' girls just act 'bad' from the start... and i enjoy them and appreciate their honesty.

other girls, who want to be more than fuck buds, act in a much different way.

the hard part is when they want to be gf's but HIDE, LIE, AND DECEIVE because they don't want to exit the cock carousel or live without all the constant (and different) attention from multiple men.

jedicreed · 2018-10-04T00:11:16+00:00

My points exactly.

As a matter of fact, it's very easy to conclude this when you take ego out of the equation.

2018-10-04T15:09:34+00:00

I think this is a really good post. If you want to have causal relationships, you need to be somewhat disengaged. She's in a casual relationship because she doesn't want drama, she just wants simple fun.

If you're in a casual relationship, you shouldn't really be all that emotionally invested in it. The idea of a casual relationship is that you have a bunch of shit going on for you, so you enter something casual so you have fun to fill in the gaps.

Freevoulous · 2018-10-05T07:22:18+00:00

TO anyone interested in the underlying idea behind OP's post, I wholeheartedly recommend googling "Alpha Male 2.0"

Luckyluke23 · 2018-10-05T06:17:31+00:00

great post man.

this is a good example of guys wanted to go back to those old contracts from the 1950's and things...

times have changed and i think this does a great job of explaining that.

2018-10-05T21:13:55+00:00

Isn't the expression "Let the crackers fall where they may"?

Feelinggood702 · 2018-10-05T23:48:26+00:00

Wow, very reader friendly. Thank you for this!

immaculacy · 2018-10-06T00:31:11+00:00

I agree in the start. You can't be having casual sex with a girl and expect her to give a f*ck about you. Short term girlfriends aren't going to care that much either but they should at least be decent. The way she'll be really good to you is if he wants to marry you.

But don't have casual sex. You're degrading yourself.

Ananonguy88 · 2018-10-03T19:29:10+00:00

Ok, you've described me.

Demanding respect is quite tricky thing though. I'm not going to be a friend or a buddy to a person that is not respecting me. It relates to both male and female. It can easily lead to opposite side of spectrum which is taking disrespect for the sake of getting or keeping getting laid which is ultimate blue pill and shit test fail. She can fuck around with other men, allright, but trying to fuck your bud on the night out together when you are present is a no no and nexting trigger. Or talking shit behind your back, despite still having sex with you is also a deal braker.

Low expectations and "anything goes as long as I get laid" are blue pill standards, if you are fuckable to women because of gains+genetics then you are going to end up a silly toyboy she flakes most of the time and calls last when other chads reject her for this night.

Very good post though and upvote from me, just balancing the perspective on this.

Title	Letting women misbehave
Author	CainPrice
Upvotes	301
Comments	70
Date	October 3, 2018 3:25 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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