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Man accepts role as 'astronaut's wife', rebuffing claims that his Mars One astronaut candidate wife is abandoning their family

August 3, 2015

TL;DR: Man accepts role as 'astronaut's wife'.

Yes, these kinds of examples are low-hanging fruit but I believe a good old fashioned wince-inducing reminder of what you could have been had you'd gone down a different path never hurts.

I'm not gonna bullshit by going into deep analysis where there is no need for any - I'd say the lesson from this is to be a self-respecting man, especially in dealings with your plates, LTRs, and wives.


The (probably a huge scam but that's for another time) Mars One mission invites candidates to travel on a one-way mission to Mars. This apparently provoked accusations on a particular candidate for 'abandoning' her family.

There are inevitably the 'you go gurrl' set, as evidenced by the article, but the woman is also supposedly being shamed for spurning her duties as the mother in her family.

There are no links or citations of any of this criticism she has supposedly received - the feminist crowd is often all too enthusiastic to cry at criticism that isn't really there.

The media and blogosphere immediately jump to this strong independent woman's aid, and the husband weighs in with truly sacrificial beta provider style:

"This was bigger than me. It raises existential questions far weightier than how much I'd miss Sonia and whether I remembered who our plumber was or knew where she kept all the passwords."

Look, love is great n' all and I'm all for a woman chasing her hopes and dreams. But I recommend you read no further if you just had your lunch:

"Maybe she'll wash out on the technical training. Maybe she'll find the isolation of a simulated Martian environment unendurable. Maybe Mars One will find 24 other people better able to handle the public role of being an astronaut in the media age. Or maybe she'll grow gills and turn into a mermaid. Playing the odds has not worked so far, and it's looking worse. So it's time to accept my role. Her name is Sonia Van Martian, and I'm the astronaut wife. We're just an ordinary married couple in an extraordinary situation, and we're taking it one small step for man at a time."

Needless to say what the lesson is from this - if you do get married, be my guest, just be a self-respecting man.

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Title Man accepts role as 'astronaut's wife', rebuffing claims that his Mars One astronaut candidate wife is abandoning their family
Author newls
Upvotes 50
Comments 65
Date August 3, 2015 8:16 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Let's flip this around: maybe he's the smartest guy in the world.

He knows she's a wanderer who doesn't want to stay at home. What are his options that won't result in the immediate loss of at least half of all his assets followed by decades of child support and alimony and loss of significant time with his children? If she leaves the planet never to return!

He gets to keep everything! And chase new women. Is it too late to apply and can you send in an application of behalf of someone else?

[–]50pluspiller29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why bother divorcing? She is on a one way trip, he gets any pay of hers, and any death benefit,

[–]1Snivellious[🍰] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This was my thought also. That's gotta be the easiest custody hearing in history:

"Well, your honor, she's probably a far better caretaker than I am. But I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that she's on Mars, and she's never coming back."

So yeah, he's being a bitch now and talking about how he's the "astronaut wife". Because he knows that if this works out he's getting freedom and a sob-story/devoted-husband/connected-to-power trifecta to hit on women with.

[–]BlackHeart890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The first sentence scared me for second. I thought you had gone mad. Lol

[–]SCROTAL-SACK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All of this. Hell if I were trapped in a legally binding marriage in this situation I'd be the most emotionally supportive beta sonofabitch ever. This guy is getting a get out of jail card to total freedom. No child support, no alimony, no bitch ex to deal with, keep everything you own. She's just removed entirely from the picture. Fucking winning.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger77 points78 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Shit. I wish my wife would go to Mars. I'd be balls deep in younger, skinnier, tighter pussy before the countdown got to 6.

If I need one, I can find a plumber on the internet on account of being literate.

[–]ColdEiric16 points17 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"Mars 2020! For women only! A place where the sisterhood can live without any mansplaining dudebro! Sign up now!"

[–]kanji_sasahara5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It would be hilariously appropriate if the ship crash landed on Venus instead of Mars.

[–]ColdEiric3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is a spaceship full of women, so I'd be surprised if they landed at a planet.

[–]1Snivellious[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oxygen is a tool of the patriarchy.

[–]RedWagonChronicles 27 points27 points [recovered] | Copy Link

As a married man it's my dream that my wifey blasts off into space with no hope of return.

[–]Philhelm16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

My dream is that my wife blasts off into the sun, or a black hole, or detonates at launch. Drowning, defenestration, being mauled by a pack of chimps, and C02 poisoning are also acceptable.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She'll be long gone in the void when I'm done with her.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd prefer my first ex fall into a black hole and enjoy spaghettification as she snaps in half, then halves snap in half, then those snap in half down to the cellular level. Nothing but the best for my ex.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

CO1 is more toxic. Just sayin'

[–]Philhelm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Touché. It would take too long to kill her in a non-ventilated greenhouse.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The institution of marriage certainly inspires the most intense feelings towards one's spouse.

[–]Philhelm14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'd rather my wife just go to Hell. Far less travel time for her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Depending on what side of Mars they land on, Hell isn't far off

[–]veyron30031 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Edit: Its 35C max closer to 95F and 145million miles.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Where on Mars is that? The atmosphere is so thin you need a pressure shuit to be outside, and summertime equatorial high temps are around 60f from what I read. The solar radiation isn't stopped by a magnetic field so humans need constant shielding. That's why the atmosphere is so thin, it's being striped away by the solar wind. Venus would be worse at 900f on the surface, but Mars is a truly desolate hell hole.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are you not doing it? Seems like you would prefer that life.

[–]1DRMMR7618 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There will be no "Mars One" flight. It's all conjecture and wishful thinking. None of them will be astronauts, ever.

[–]Riddick_9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This. Mars One will be at best a simulation. As in, they will be locked in a secured environment to see what they can do on a time limit. And if they put Mars One on TV it will be the show everyone will be watching...

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They're currently doing it now on The Big Island "Hawaii". Had a professor who is one of the project team leaders. It's up in the mountains with lots of red dirt on barren wasteland.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock15 points16 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I'd love to see intergender dynamics at work there when the only government around is through the radio. No feminist nonsense bombarding the crew, and everyone subject to direct consequences of their failures, no subsidies for the weak and ridiculous.

This is a one way trip, pregnancy is mandatory to sustain the population whether it's through consensual sex, artificial insemination, or rape, especially to take care of the old (Unless they have secret artificial wombs I don't know about). And multiple women will need to get pregnant, but not too many or else they'll have much to all the female staff out of commision for 8 months at a time all while needing special care from the men who have other jobs. Women will need to be pregnant in alternate phases. The kids will need education in such a hostile and technical environment. How does the decrease in gravity affect fetal development? How does the space diet affect fetal development? They'll need kid space suits of varying sizes. Whos going to deliver the babies? They'll need medical professionals who also specialize in something space or engineering related. No more child support cases or legal fathers. A woman is gonna have to make herself useful, which she probably is if she is on the mission. Sooo many politically incorrect questions are involved.

[–]Philhelm11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In other words, the mission has failed before it even launched.

[–]KarYotypeStereotype6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If they're sending first world women, yeah, it's over before it started. If I were running that thing I'd pick a bunch of smart fit guys and a bunch of submissive Thai women.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'd be safer with artificial wombs instead of women.

[–]unassumingusername77 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure they're just intended to die there. No returning, no creating a new society, just subsist and research then die.

[–]The_Nekt5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its going to be a glorious failure, i just hope they manage to get there first so i cant watch it happen.

[–]kanji_sasahara2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If it was only possible to make a live stream show out of it. Not scripted reality TV garbage, but a pure, unedited recording of life without first world noise.

[–]Ovadox1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

There is no way enough resources could be sent to Mars in one trip to successfully set up a sustainable colony.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If all goes well, they will probably send in a second ship with fewer people in more supplies.

[–]Ovadox5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I would like to see a manned mission to Mars, but we will not have a colony there because, just like the moon the costs far outweigh the benefits. To be self sustaining they will need to make everything they need from Martian resources. Right now that list is rocks, water, CO2 and sunlight that is 1/4 the strength of that on earth. To turn those things into something useful that will take a lot of energy. Solar won't cut it. Nuclear could keep them running for several years. At the end of the day though, permanent colonies won't happen until we have fusion.

[–]NidStyles2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Cold fusion is theoretically possible on the moon. Lot's of helium-3.

[–]Spidertech5000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Tritium? Or is that hydrogen still?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The amount nuclear sheilding required would be too heavy to transport and build. You need bulldozers and cranes for that. Not to mention the staff required to maintain the facility and dispose of the waste all while using oxygen tanks and space suits.

[–]dreckmal14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"My other woman is an astronaut".

[–]Philhelm15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She's 36 years old and the mission is planned to launch in 2026, so she will be 47 years old by then. Why the fuck would she even be considered? Unfortunately, it looks like the husband isn't out of the woods at all. How long until she initiates divorce in order to get some spending money before the launch (which she will never go through with - mark my words).

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I commented that she would cry as soon as she got there and demand rescue, but you're right. They would never even get there. They are just claiming to go now because of the current validation boost.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What kind of idiot sends a post-wall woman on a one way trip to create a colony?

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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, a lawyer could still represent the other side and she wouldn't need to physical attend the trial.

[–]Philhelm10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If children were involved, it's not like they'd be sent to Mars (or would they? lol).

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No LOL, I believe in my lifetime this will happen. A woman will run to the Mars Colony with the kids and the court will order them to stay because, patriarchy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The point is many trials happen with absent defendants or plaintiffs.

[–]Philhelm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, sure, but this would be a new scenario. A divorce can be enacted without the other party's knowledge if the petitioner is unable to locate the spouse; usually they will issue a notice by publication, and proceed with the divorce after a period of time. This is a stranger scenario though.

[–]Brian_Official5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

$5 says she still gets at least 25% of your income

[–]js2719510 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, at least he doesn't have to worry about her taking his children and suing him for child support the rest of his life while telling his children he's a deadbeat.

[–]libertypole9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

did you guys catch that in the article?

her family consists of her husband and STEP-SONS......

[–]1KyfhoMyoba-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's called 'retroactive cuckoldry.'

[–]hirjd6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If they're her step sons then they're his kids though.

[–]libertypole0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah. i think he missed the point. you'd be a fool to assume rental mom cares about the kids like they were her own.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This man is a RP genius.

He's playing all his cards right to rid himself of the wife.

He might only be foiled by Mars One being a scam.

[–]KarYotypeStereotype5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he's the smartest guy out there. What does he lose by sending his wife to mars? If his marriage is average, and statistically it is, his wife makes his life harder, not easier. This is a way out that doesn't involve a divorce settlement, and he gets to look like a feminist hero. Win win, in my book. If she doesn't go, he supported her and looks like a great guy, for however little that's worth. If she actually does go, he wins the jackpot.

[–]NidStyles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would go to Mars. I don't give a shit about the rest of your post. I just wanted to let you guys know, that if I were capable of going, I would be on one of those flights.

[–]narazz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Little off topic but the martian is a good read. just got to sol 97 the other day. :)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh; I'd go if I could. (I don't have any kind of a family; but that kind of journey would be worth potentially trying to start one. I know that it will never happen though; I'm bad enough as it is, and with no real worth or skills, no one would send me anywhere on earth, much less to another planet.)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh stop these women are gonna cry and beg for a rescue as soon as they get there.

[–]dicklord_airplane0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm biased since i'm a professional geoscientist with a huge stiffy for planetary science and space travel, but I tend to agree with the guy; this project is bigger than our petty little feelings and egos. if my wife was chosen to take part in something as big as the first fucking mission to mars, i'd let her go without a thought.

Besides, you'd get the opportunity to date other women, and you'd probably have no trouble considering the minor celebrity status that the situation would give you. lots of women would be happy to chase a guy who was so graceful about his wife leaving him for a scientific cause.

[–]DrScientist8120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we stop using the word "shaming" to describe dissent? It's a word for the weak

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This will never materialize anywas, and mars one is a scam.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol I hope he likes the experience of a major testosterone drop when taking care of his step-kids.

Also I bet the space sex will be awesome for Sonia. All aboard the astronaut carousel.

[–]hirjd0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They're actually her step kids.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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