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Meditation is the most 'Red Pill' thing you can do besides fucking and lifting.

January 21, 2017


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Title Meditation is the most 'Red Pill' thing you can do besides fucking and lifting.
Author PlantNutrient
Upvotes 36
Comments 18
Date January 21, 2017 6:42 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5pc3m4/meditation_is_the_most_red_pill_thing_you_can_do/
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[–]themachiavelliprince points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Meditating put me on the path to developing a truly don't give a fuck level of calm.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Buddhism has a reputation for being something crusty old hippies and SWPLs are into, but the actual core of real buddhism is hyper-masculine. I would highly recommend people look into Zen Buddhism especially.

Before you let your prejudices get the better of you (IE, assuming Buddhism is only for faggots like Richard Gere and Moby), know that the Japanese suicide pilots were Zen Buddhists.

Yoga too has been warped in the West, but it is underrated for men. Don't take a Yoga class, go look up some of the real exercises and you will be surprised at the subtle strength and peace of mind you build that will help you lift more.

[–]PlantNutrient[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I practice Zen Buddhism and yoga as well. I kept that out of the initial post because even TRP isn't immune to rejecting something beneficial based on our preconceptions.

Through regular yogic practices, meditation, and lifting I am stronger, more flexible, and more resilient than I ever was before.

You don't need to go to sit on a mountain with an indian monk and meditate in silence for a week (something that me and my local org actually do), but being aware of the ideals of Zen and how they can relate will really help anyone.

[–]Koryphae_0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

I am a beginner in meditation and I dislike your method a little bit. In my opinion, you can't start at 10 minutes. It's not efficient. It might work if you are already a man with a lot of habits. But to be safe, it is good to start with only 2 minutes for example.

I tell you, I started with 2 minutes, moved up to 4, 6, etc. and now am finally on 10 minutes, moving up next week to 13 or so. You can't start big. For me, the initial 2 minutes was already so difficult.

But this works. Even if you do it for a few weeks, it works. I did not meditate for 3-4 days and I instantly felt the difference, I was again easily getting angry. Meditate, guys, you really need to meditate.

edit: to get my point across better

[–]PlantNutrient[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

"I just started meditating and my way is the only way" is roughly how you're coming across here.

I teach meditation classes. Yes it is hard at the beginning, if it was easy, then anyone could do it.

Whatever works for people is fine, I meditate for 40-60 minutes at a time, typically we tell people to start with ten minutes because that is the minimum time that has been proven effective by research.

If two minutes a day got you to get into it, that's perfectly fine, and I'm glad you started. I have OCD so I understand how hard it can be to sit for extended times, it took me years to get to this point, and no one will give you shit for whatever way works for you.

[–]Koryphae_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, great point, I wish you stated why you picked this length in the main post.

I am sorry if you feel that I come across saying that my way is the right way. English is not my native language. I do not think that way myself because I try to explain myself why the shorter time (if you do not have a lot of habits). Different activities stick to people at a different rate. I guess word 'efficient' is a poor choice, my bad.

Thanks for your input!

[–]Jake420Blaze points points [recovered] | Copy Link

How does it not get to be wasteful to spend 40-60minutes of your day doing literally nothing? For those who aren't meditation instructors.

[–]PlantNutrient[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Think of it as a way you clean out all the neurons and brain pathways that are cluttered with noise from all the crap you go through each day. When you meditate, (which certainly doesn't have to be an hour) you improve in ways that many others aren't.

No one is going to make you, just like no one will make you go to the gym. Ask any of the RP elites here and they will tell you meditation is important.

Why do you work out for 40-60 minutes a day. You don't accomplish anything.

Same logic as to why you're on here reading philosophy, why you exercise, why you improve anything. Just because you don't understand how it works doesn't mean it isn't improving your life. If you decide to just reject it straight up, that's just another form of ignorance. Research has repeatedly shown how important meditation is for mental health, longevity, and efficient thought.

I understand that it's hard to see why, because we haven't really figured out how to make neuroscience easily understandable by people who don't study it. Like I am a cognitive neuroscience major in college so it makes sense to me, but it would take a while to effectively describe the exact effects, especially since we aren't quite sure yet

[–]Jake420Blaze points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I'll give meditation a shot. Do you recommend any authors/books for learning the basics of neuroscience?

[–]PlantNutrient[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly you've probably seen some basics of overarching neuroscience just reading through TRP, this is exactly what got me into my major.

I've been working on a blog to teach basic Neuroscience in context of applicable skills like you see here, but have been way too busy to publish enough to open it up.

As for basics of neuroscience, that's a tough task honestly. We know so little about the brain that generally you need the real nitty gritty biology understanding first for a lot of things.

What I can recommend is free online courses on Coursera, Edx, etc.

I think this series of lecture PDFs is one of the most simple class lectures you might find that has stuff you would like

In case link breaks http://www.weizmann.ac.il/neurobiology/labs/ulanovsky/intro-neuroscience-behavioral-neuroscience-2009-2010

Go through the ones that sound interesting in your free time, and don't worry about the specific brain region names, you don't really need to memorize all of those. Just read through and see what information you absorb, and just wikipedia any parts you want to know more about.

Especially anything about 'behaviour' or 'cognitive' is going to be less science-y and more applicable to your own life and interactions.

Let me know if you have any other questions, but feel free to just google around about general behaviours and keep following blue links in wikipedia that seem interesting.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd like to note that all the benefits you mentioned are associated with transcendental meditation, not mindful meditation, which is what's suggested to people like 99% of the time. I'm pretty sure mindful meditation is just a meme.

Edit: Looks like you have to pay thousands of dollars to learn TM and it's like a cult/scam or something? Nvm about that I guess.

[–]PlantNutrient[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gonna be honest, meditating at all in any form reaps insane benefits for the time commitment it takes. Whatever ideology you follow is more of a personal preference on your aims, getting people to just start is more important than what specific sect they follow.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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