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My Experience With Prostitution (Obese Virgin)

June 10, 2016
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Summary: Morbidly obese, 27-year-old virgin fucks 10 beautiful women and has a threesome.

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To start, this post will be useless to most of you. If you are an attractive male, then this isn't for you. If, however, you are sexually marginalized for whatever reason (physical or mental), this story might shed some light on a possible strategy.

Let's get this out of the way- I weigh 300 lbs. I know how you guys feel about that, believe me. If you want to rake me over the coals for being such a fat ass, I totally understand and I deserve it; I will not attempt to defend or excuse myself. However, the purpose of this place is to discuss "men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men." For me, that meant exercising a sexual strategy that most would consider immoral and well outside the acceptable cultural norms.

I felt helpless and hopeless as a 27 year old virgin. That is a long time to go without female intimacy. I had a lot of self-loathing and disgust with myself, I constantly felt worthless and like a total failure. I tried (and failed) to lose weight many, many times. I always ended up fatter and lonelier than ever.

I'm not here to discuss why I failed to lose weight. You can chalk it up to a lack of discipline, a flaw in my character, binge eating disorder, my failure as a human, or whatever else you like. I won't argue against you- I accept total responsibility for my obesity and as I said I will not defend it. The point is, for whatever the reason, I found myself extremely fat and extremely frustrated.

I had always figured that eventually I would lose the weight, gain some confidence, and get a girlfriend. But as the years went by, and it started looking less and less likely, I became more and more frustrated. Should I expect to never experience sex, since I am obviously unable or unwilling to lose weight? Will I go my entire life without being physically intimate with a woman?

Eventually, about six months ago and at the age of 27, I decided that I wasn't going to "wait" any longer and I was going to do something about it.

I live in California, so I decided that my best bet would be to head down to Tijuana. Some research indicated that the Hong Kong strip club would be a good place to meet some lovely women and lose my virginity. I am pretty anxious by nature and averse to risk, so it sounded sketchy at first. My best friend of many years agreed to be my wingman. Eventually, we mustered the courage and drove down to the border, parked the car in a lot, and crossed by foot into Mexico. We got into a taxi and had the driver take us straight to Hong Kong.

Hong Kong stripclub: http://www.hktijuana.com/

We checked into our room, which was a penthouse suite in the hotel that sits on top of the stripclub.

Hotel Cascadas Penthouse Suite: http://hotelcascadas.com/rooms/penthouse-suite-room-2

When I had reserved the room, I had emailed them and negotiated a discount ($300/ night for Penthouse 1). Mind you this was for Friday and Saturday, which are a little more expensive. When we checked in, they gave us a free upgrade to the Penthouse Suite 2 since they had double booked the other Penthouse. So it cost us $150 each per night and we each got our own room.

The way this place normally works is, you don’t need to be staying at the hotel. You usually go down to the stripclub (which was amazing by the way) and if a girl catches your eye, you negotiate prices with her (standard rate is $80/ 30 min, and usually only includes one nut). Then you take her upstairs, and rent a small room for the 30 min. (not sure how much this costs, I think it’s pretty cheap).

However, I didn’t want to do it this way. First of all, I was very worried that I would come quickly (which I did) and I wanted a longer session where I would get to nut twice. Secondly, I wanted to have the comfort of being in my own room. I didn’t want some guy to come knocking on the door telling me time is up, and I was hoping to shower with her first.

Anyways, we get there and it is awesome. Awesome room, very clean and comfortable. Awesome club, TONS of women. Beautiful women, especially if you like latinas with a nice ass. Right off the bat, there is a tall blonde, all natural, with big nipples dancing on the stage. My buddy and I walk around the club, and return to find that the girl is gone to some other corner. We get some drinks and start scoping out who looks hot. I want the blonde, but can’t see her. Several women approach us, and we turn them away. Eventually my buddy gets up to look for the one that had caught my eye, and he finds her and brings her over. Her English isn’t great, but I ask her for a lapdance. I think I paid $20 for two songs, and she had her top off and I was sucking on her big nipples. Song ends, but I am ready to go. I ask her for 1 hour, and she quotes me $140. I agree, and we go up to my room.

Now, I am a bit of a germ freak. I’m still worried about STD’s and I don’t want to risk anything. I am also completely inexperienced. I never kissed any of these women on the mouth. When we get to my room, she is impressed that I have my own room and I don’t think she’d ever seen the Penthouse Suite. I ask if she wants to shower with me, and she is happy to. We shower and then she gives me a blowjob with condom on. It was my first blowjob, and it was delightful. I looked down and couldn’t believe that such an attractive woman (extremely hot body) was sucking my dick. I came in about 40 seconds. Lucky for me, I had plenty of time on the clock and lots of condoms. So I put on a new one, still rock hard, and she blew me some more, and then we fucked. Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, missionary. I found it to be kind of difficult, actually, because of how fat I am. A lot of positions were awkward because of my fat, but she was great about positioning herself for the best possible result. I was too much in my head, but I would stop and just be amazed that this was actually happening. We fucked for about 40 minutes, and then she sucked me to completion. We showered and I gave her a big tip and walked her downstairs back to the club where my friend was waiting. First experience: 10/10

Over the course of the next two days, I fucked a total of 5 women. Some of them were unenthusiastic and just trying to get me to come as fast as possible so they could get on their way. Some were great, and I enjoyed fucking one in the shower, the bed, and the bubble bath I prepared in the hot tub. I had put some beers in the mini fridge, so we drank beers in the hot tub while I recovered my strength, and then started all over again. Sunday morning we packed our shit, took a taxi to the border, and returned to our car. I was in a twilight zone. Three days ago, I had never been naked with a woman. Now I had fucked five women, each one hotter than I ever imagined I would be with. By some miracle of life, I had been able to watch a beautiful young woman twerking on my dick. A woman who I would have been scared to even talk to, let alone hook up with. I felt like I had discovered cheat codes for life!

After losing my virginity, I was pretty happy. I went about six months before the desire to go back down there became too strong to ignore. However, my friend had a girlfriend and would not be joining me. That means that I would need the courage to make the trip solo. Last week, that is exactly what I did. This time, I reserved a Master Suite for two nights.

Right off the bat, I found a gorgeous young woman who agreed to 1 hour for $110 (it was Monday, so prices were lower). She blew me and we went to the hot tub. After a while, we went to the bed for sex. This time around, I was MUCH more relaxed. I also lasted alot longer, and I was able to get out of my head and really enjoy the experience. She had started licking my shaft without a condom and I stopped her to put one on (I probably shouldn’t have, but I’m still scared of STD’s and I don’t want to become accustomed to no-condom blowjobs, since I already enjoy covered blowjobs just fine and most of them won’t do it without a condom). Anyways, after fucking her she invited me to take off the condom and come all over her tits, which I happily did.

So, things had gotten off to a great start. I didn’t think things could get any better, but they did. Later that night, I took a gorgeous blonde with an amazing body (named Barbie) up to my room for an hour ($140). She took her time and gave me great head, and we sat in the hot tub drinking beers. She starts talking to me about how important it is to be positive and encouraging me not to let my weight hold me back. What is this Dr. Phil? We are so relaxed, almost the whole hour has passed. When we get to the bed, she starts massaging me. And this is a legit massage- she does my arms and legs and feet and hands. It was such a surreal experience, having this gorgeous woman naked in my bed, massaging me. We have sex, and it is the best sex I’ve ever had. I prefer just laying back and having the woman ride me, and that’s exactly what she did, in several different positions. I just propped up my head with some pillows and let her go at it. She definitely knew what she was doing, and it was a beautiful experience. By the time we shower, it has been well over two hours. And she never once mentioned the time or money. That is exactly the type of relaxed session I enjoy, so I gave her a very big tip.

The next day, I had sex with two more women. Then, late that night, I hit the club for the last time. I run into Barbie, and sit with her and a beer. She starts massaging my scalp while I rub her ass and breasts. A lot of beautiful women all around. One in particular stands out- a tall, beautiful brunette with an ass that is literally as nice as any other I’ve seen. I wave her over and get her a drink. She only slightly knows Barbie, but they get along fine, and she is very sweet. I invite her up for an hour and she agrees. I walk out of the club with my arms each wrapped around a beautiful babe, as I’m leaving a nearby table of guys give me a cheer and applause haha.

I take the girls up and have the greatest experience of my life. I cannot describe the feeling of fulfilling a fantasy with such attractive women. I am the biggest loser that I know, and yet I would not trade positions with ANY of my friends who have girlfriends. There is something about having two bombshells taking turns riding me that has permanently altered my mindset. And the ladies were super cool and friendly, just dedicated to making it a great memory for me. First threesome: 10/10

The next day I returned to the border, balls and wallet both utterly drained. That was a week ago, but I cannot for the life of me stop smiling. I have this stupid silly grin on my face. I can’t get over how blessed I am, and how happy I am to be a man alive today. It is a beautiful life.

Lessons Learned:

  • You do not have to be attractive to have sex with beautiful women. If you are very fat or disfigured, there is still hope for you!
  • Yes, I know 100% that I need to keep lifting and stop overeating and lose the weight (for MANY more reasons than just pussy). In the meantime, I implemented a sexual strategy and it gave me a wonderful experience.
  • Spending cash on pussy is expensive, but I paid a lot less than Leonardo DiCaprio did haha!

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Title My Experience With Prostitution (Obese Virgin)
Author chazthundergut
Upvotes 291
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Date June 10, 2016 4:54 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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[–]TRP VanguardCyralea30 points31 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to start off by saying I'm legitimately happy for you. You took initiative found some personal happiness. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. I used to know a lot of guys who dealt with the struggle of lack of female companionship, well before TRP was a thing that could have helped them. Escorts would have helped them.

That said, consider these words. Fucking beautiful women is the first step. You can cross that off your list, it's no longer the over-valued thing in your head. What you've never had yet is real female desire -- women who genuinely want to hop on your dick and go to town. It's something every man should experience. Trust me when I say that there's no shortcut. You can't pay a woman to desire you.

What TRP offers is an avenue for cultivating that female desire. I'm sure your experience has left you happier than you were before, but following the measures laid out here will give you a more permanent form of self-fulfilment.

Cheers.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yea for sure. I would definitely choose sex with a woman who genuinely desired me, if that were an option. Hopefully one day it will be, and I will be here sharing a different kind of field report!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

first off great post. but dude go for it! drop the weight, I believe in you.

Unfortunately, my opinion doesn't count for shit, and nothing will happen unless you have the drive and the desire to take control of your life

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One good thing about escorts is that you're safe from false rape accusations. My friend made a joke once - "You don't pay escorts to fuck them. You pay them to leave your place and never call you again."

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang175 points176 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the upbeat FR.

Fucking good for you man, it's your birthright. Nobody gives a shit how fat or ugly you are, especially women - if you can afford them. And you ALWAYS pay for pussy, in some form, some way. No exceptions.

Now you just gotta be a little careful and watch for the resurgence of that blue pill brainwashing, which may start making you think you met "the love of your life" and you're going to marry the stripper ho, and give her a good life with you.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 44 points45 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man. I didn't really see it as my birthright- as I said, I don't think any woman owes me anything. But I do see what you're saying- sex is an awesome part of life that we should all enjoy. Some men never get to experience it, and I know the bitterness that comes from going so long without. I guess now that I think about it, I did have to make the conscious decision that I deserve to be happy, even though I am unattractive. It was demoralizing to feel "unsexworthy" or "unfuckable" for so long. On that front, my mindset has definitely improved.

And you are right about "everyone pays for pussy." That was one of the first realizations I had when I was linked to The Rational Male and started to discover the hidden cost of sex. A lot of my friends have given up quite a bit more than a few hundred dollars for access to their girlfriends' vaginas. It became a lot easier for me to justify hiring a prostitute when I have observed women so openly using men for their resources through practices like gold-digging and divorce-rape, over and over again.

Lastly, I appreciate the advice about falling for them. I did genuinely enjoy my time with some of those ladies, and many were friendly and seemed sincere. Some will definitely be at the top of my list when I return. But going for over a decade without any female intimacy at all has burned the Red Pill deep inside my sizable gut. I never ever ever can forget that no woman loves me "for who I am inside." I have experienced the cold side of female hypergamy too many times to let my guard down. It doesn't stop me from loving women and enjoying the shit out of the time I spend with them, but not for one moment did I ever suspect that I am anything to these girls beyond a wallet. And I never will. Still, thanks for the reminder.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang45 points46 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I've got to disagree with you on that last point slightly. While that's a nicely guarded stance that lets you keep your head about you (important), I assure you that all those girls are human too and can absolutely "develop true feelings" for you. They're all the exact same and respond to game in the same way. Especially if you find a way to make them a teeny bit jealous, somehow...

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/the-sixteen-commandments-of-poon/

In other words, just as you discovered that you're not unfuckable, you can also discover you're not un-loveable. Don't ever let it go to your head man!

For me, the bottom line is that women's true feelings are always too flighty and too self-serving to really matter in a big way (blue pill movies always keep preaching the exact opposite, it's quite hard to get away from the annoying idea). This isn't a bitter position either, it's simply the recognition that she is your ward, you take care of her but not the other way around. Our ancestors always knew this, and knew how to treat women right - they are for recreation and procreation, they're just not the right outlet for drama-ridden chivalrous love-plays and quasi-religious "want to spend eternity together" type of crazy oneitis.

Blue pill brainwashing deliberarely creates this massive emptiness or hole in men's hearts, their self-worth. So that they will blindly look to a woman to fill it in for them, for most of their life. Meanwhile women are horrified by this, they are niether equipped or willing to serve as that which is going to permanently seal such a psycho wound for some man. Girls just wanna have fun.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, good stuff. I like your perspective- I really like women and do not want to be bitter towards them. It's hard not to be sometimes. As you point out, we need the right level of expectations for what role women perform in a man's life.

I personally will never trust that a woman truly loves me for who I am since I am who I am now, and have been for so long, and never received such love. On a fundamental level, I have become aware of the conditionality of women's affection.

That doesn't mean that I won't ever be in a loving relationship. But in the back of my mind, I will always understand that her love is conditional upon me being XYZ.

Also, reading the 16 commandments you linked. Solid!

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"Women are for procreation and recreation only "

I am gleefully stealing this line. It playfully shatters the misguided bluepill dream that truly hurts men

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In reality its just going to convince people you are mysoginsitic. It's better to lead with everyone is out for themselves.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's one of those things you can believe but never reveal to others.

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

looks like someone has found there new life motto! fuck this is good.

[–]RedEyesBlueShades2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If we were at a pub having a chat right now, I'd buy you a beer. Instead I'm simply gonna upvote.

Really simply and well put. I like it.

[–]aanarchist6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

you have some pretty low standards for humans.

that's a curious statement. blue pill brainwashing creates this massive emptiness in a man's heart. is this really brainwashing? i've never been one to be swayed by the herd. only reason i was ever blue pill was because my own father was such an alpha that he beat the shit out of me to put me in my place, and his frame was so ironclad that he was basically a robot, making me decide to become his opposite. i swung too hard the other way and became a nice guy which thanks to trp wisdom am getting out of my system. i don't see anything wrong with wanting warm hugs and having her treat me with the same consideration i would treat her. i mean i'm not gonna wife up some dumpster slut just cuz i'm lonesome, it's just kinda sad that women are so unevolved and unenlightened, they seem like they're literally the reason wars and conflict exists.

either way fair is fair, if she doesn't wanna be the seal for my psycho wound, then her value as a person basically limited to how much utility she can provide, and most women are a net cost rather than a net gain.

[–]VoyPerdiendo15 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your father wasn't an alpha, he was a narcissist. Nice guys are created by narcissistic parents.

[–]aanarchist-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

narcissism is an alpha trait, or at least, narcissists display many alpha traits. they certainly get the king treatment despite being terrible people, kinda like your average chad.

[–]Soraman361 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Is the hole in men hearts blue pill brainwashing?

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I proved it to myself. All I had to do was observe that, as we speak, all over the world women are getting knocked up, babies are born, families form - humans do what humans do, without having the slightest idea what "romantic love" or the proverbial hole in a man's heart is supposed to be.

The men living in more natural circumstances just don't know what it even is. It puzzles, amuses them when they see how Western indoctrinated men act and feel. What's more, it makes those more barbaric men seem a lot more attractive in Western women's eyes.

And the women are fucking RIGHT.

Romantic love is our unique decadence, our poison and our ego disease in which we revel like pigs. Worshipping the golden calf, the golden thigh, and the golden pretty little foot - all up in our own heads. Women niether deserve nor desire this kind of fucked up ego-dependent love. Yet it's not as if women are unloveable. If you love them simply and directly - like a natural unindoctrinated manbrute - then everyone is happy and lots of babies are made.

[–]cariboo_j2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women niether deserve nor desire this kind of fucked up ego-dependent love.

I watched a nature documentary a while ago. It was raining and some gorillas where grabbing handfuls of twigs and grass and shit and putting it on top of their heads in a feeble attempt to keep the rain out.

At the time I was in the depths of loneliness and depression, and drinking far too much. I threw a party at my house, some girl stayed late and we hooked up. She threw herself at me. Whatever, no big deal. But I had a moment of weakness in the middle of the night. I was like, "just lie here with me. I need to feel close to someone. Stay for a while in the morning." I think buried my face in her boobs. The look on her face totally changed. She got up and left at 6 am without saying a word.

I felt like one of those stupid gorillas, trying to cover my head with twigs and shit to keep the rain out.

[–]grewapair23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 15 percent body fat, 5'10 rich as hell, and I can assure you, no woman has ever loved me for who I am either. They all use you.

You haven't missed anything.

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[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. I am definitely not falling into any honeytraps!

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great story man.

Next Step: stop being fat.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbogeyd60 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely is failing the whole don't be unattractive part.

[–]Bielzabutt9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly just think how much money you would've spent on 5 or 6 dates with U.S. women and they probably wouldn't have even kissed you (yet). Keep up the attitude and follow through.

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[–]I_Need_More_Space_51 points52 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Way to go, man. Blue pillers and feminists will say there's something wrong with prostitution. That is false. Prostitution is the oldest profession for a reason. It's the most honest relationship between men and women.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Thanks! It was certainly mutually beneficial- I had sex with beautiful women, and they made a VERY good hourly wage, especially considering the country they live in. Win win! Plus, I didn't go there to degrade or mistreat them- I genuinely like women, and I was just sick of not getting any.

[–]cariboo_j-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn't go there to degrade or mistreat them

Sounds like a bit of lingering white knightery. You must completely excise the blue pill cancer from your mind. So what if you did? Who gives a shit? As long as you're both consenting adults and they agree to accept payment.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, maybe it is a bit of lingering white knightery.

Honestly, I enjoy myself more when I am happy and the people around me are happy. And hurting or degrading anyone has never really been my thing. Why not treat everyone well and enjoy life? Isn't everything better that way? This has certainly been the case in friendships and professional relationships. And I see no reason why I should be rude or unkind to a woman, just because she is a prostitute or a female or whatever else.

Anyways, that's just me. I am probably still a little BP White-Knighty about stuff like that. I do really love women and I love having sex with them. Plus, from a perspective of simply maximizing my own enjoyment, it worked out very well for me in this case. And I still fucked their brains out.

[–]trpthrowaway185212 points13 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Feminists, BP and SJW's will all say sex workers are victims of male oppression. Fuck them all.

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[–]nixedreamer4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Just out of curiosity, where did you get this idea? I am here from being linked on BP and have 0 issues with prositituion (as long as the person wants to do it and it isn't a human slavery type situation). Literally every other feminist I know feels the same. I know a few feminists who are sex workers too (it's legal in Australia)

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What does society think of men who visit prostitutes?

I'm sure they are all very supportive of the women in the situation. That's not what 1852 is referring to. What about the men?

Go tell your feminist friends that you paid a prostitute to have sex with you, and see what reaction you get. They have zero issues right? Might as well be telling them you had peanut-butter on your sandwich. In fact, post it on facebook, as a social experiment, and see what the discussion looks like. I am genuinely curious.

On a very basic, fundamental level, you know that men in the equation are viewed as predatory/ oppressive/ perverted. It is one of the many double standards of the feminine imperative. Or, prove me wrong, and I will admit that I was wrong. I'd be very interested to know if these feminists (or even society at large) viewed male customers as regular guys, engaging in consensual sex, without negative connotation.

[–]trpthrowaway18527 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm based in north America. I once described my trip to Thailand where I saw escorts were everywhere (I wasn't visiting any providers back then), and one self proclaimed feminist said it is disgusting to have older white males (not directed at me) hiring young escorts. Pretty much everyone else in the room agreed with her, saying these young girls were all victims. My retort? "Hey, it's a free market, and there are buyers and sellers. It is completely legal in Thailand, no one put a gun to the heads of these young girls, so who are you to judge." That shut her up good. Funny thing was, she gave me a smirk afterward. I guess she likes it when someone disagreed with her.

[–]BossLaidee13 points14 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Prostitution isn't actually legal in Thailand, and unlike Australia, that county is a really shitty example because extreme poverty, corruption, and sex tourism has led many children--not even young women but children--to sell themselves so their families can eat.

If you're gonna give an example, don't be ignorant and use Thailand.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have seen it too, among today's feminist writers and so forth like on both news sites and blogs, etc. So the mentality is definitely out there.

Not surprising to me, at least not anymore.

[–]aanarchist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

yea if society would stop being sexist and give them real jobs they wouldn't have to sell their bodies.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The amazing part is the hypocrisy we've seen so often: men are "perverts" or "predators" for paying for sex/etc. with women who freely provide the service, yet women are allowed to "explore their sexuality", at least until the moment when the narrative changes and then they are "victimized" or "oppressed" and no longer responsible for their own decisions.

Exhausting...so just do whatever, and keep it under wraps, I think.

[–]MagmaiKH16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

TL;DR but 300lb is a year away from being in decent shape.
It's not like it's a 10 year project to win an Olympic marathon.

Being fat doesn't matter as much as being confident and you'll have that rolling off your new found sexual exploits and it gets easier to get laid without outright paying for it.
Don't let guilt or shame set in - it'll probably come at some point and you'll be asking what you're doing with your life spending money to fuck whores and lamenting that you'll never get a real woman. For a guy in your situation you did what you absolutely needed to do.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I must admit that I've experienced quite the opposite. I thought I would feel dirty, or ashamed or guilty. The truth is, I feel amazing.

A part of me suspects that this could just be cognitive dissonance, protecting me from negative views of myself. A certain amount of this is, of course, inevitable.

On the other hand, I had several occasions where I stopped and my jaw dropped open with wonder and joy. I couldn't believe what was happening, or how lucky I was. It was very, very pleasant, especially this second time around. I always try to appreciate the good things I have in life, and this is one of those wonderful experiences where I am so happy and grateful. I feel blessed to be alive.

[–]forcevacum5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Massive congrats. The thing that strikes me is that you seem smart enough to be able to overcome fear and get outside your comfort zone, can you go into more detail about how you can't lose weight? If you download my fitness pal and start tracking food today, eat at a 500 cal deficit for 7 days you'll be 299 pounds this time next week. Probably a lot more because of water weight. There's a lot of people on here that have a lot of goodwill for you and will help in any way we can.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I didn't want to get too much into the weight because I don't want to make excuses or have it seem like I blame anything or anyone but myself. Also, this was more about presenting a viable strategy for the sexually powerless men in TRP, not all of whom are able to pick up women for whatever reason.

But, since you ask, I have a binge eating disorder. I know it sounds stupid, and believe me I am not saying it to abdicate responsibility. I have discipline in every other area of my life. I exercise, at least 40 minutes, once every day, 6 days a week. I have impeccable hygiene (always been terrified of being that fat guy who smells like shit) and shower multiple times a day. I am also a very hard worker and have a reputation for being so at my job (again, I am terrified of being the stereotypical, lazy fat guy). I am good at budgeting myself and saving money. I do not drink alcohol at all, and when I did I always exercised moderation. I work full time and go to school to move up in my career.

I say all this to illustrate that it's not a matter of being lazy or undisciplined. At least I don't think it is, but I could be wrong. I do have anxiety, and it is closely tied to my eating.

When I get stressed out, I start to feel overwhelmed. And then I seek out food and start eating. I totally lose control and will stuff myself well past the point of being satisfied. I will eat until my hands are shaking and tears are coming out of my eyes. It's pretty disgusting, and I really hate myself for it. Of course, such feelings tend to only make myself feel worse, and I end up eating to shut them out. Vicious cycle continues.

I have gone on every diet I can think of and many exercise regiments. However, the problem isn't really eating too much sweets or spending too much time on the couch. One serious binge is enough to set me back several days.

I have gone to therapy, group sessions, support group meetings (overreaters anonymous), and everything else I could think of. I have been prescribed anxiety medications, but that is the one thing I never tried.

In the end, I was able to get a handle on my anxiety through mindfulness and breathing exercises. This has had a huge impact on my eating, and eventually I stopped gaining weight and then slowly, very slowly, the weight has been coming down. I was actually around 325 lbs at my heaviest, so I've lost a fair chunk already.

Still, the process is very slow, and is often two steps forward one step back. I will be doing fine with everything, but then some stressor crops up like my dad is sent to the hospital and I end up going back to binge eating for several weeks.

Anyways, that's the story of my weight. Again, I am not making excuses or abdicating responsibility or blaming anything but myself. I understand that losing weight and being healthy is 100% my responsibility, and if I want to make a change it is up to me. My life is not controlled by the people around me or even an eating disorder and there is no one else to blame- in the end, it is all up to me.

I will continue to focus on dealing with my anxiety in healthy ways. I will continue to exercise 6 days a week. I will continue to use portion control and moderation in my eating. And, hopefully, I will continue to lose weight.

[–]forcevacum2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep fighting the good fight. As someone who used to have anxiety I made peace with my demons are realised the world doesn't care about my problems. There's a simplicity and beauty to that. There comes a stage where you decide that problems of your past are in your childhood and you either overcome them to preventing them interfering with your life or wallow in them. Best of luck pal.

[–]TW_RPAwake1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Excellent story, thanks for sharing. When you get stressed, eat, and then beat yourself up for it, that cycle makes you your own worst enemy. It is clear that your goal is to overcome these tendencies. I would like to recommend a book; and in particular the audio book for "The Firth Agreement". Check out the reviews and audio sample; this book may be a terrific resource for you.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the tip- I will add it to my Amazon list right now.

[–]TRPMaidenSlayer2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You seem smart, so you HAVE to find the system that works for you.

Seems like you know your triggers. Replace the food with whatever you can. Perhaps get into problem solving mode and figure out how to first solve whatever is stressing you.

Maybe there is someone you can call when you are getting overwhelmed and are about to binge?

The reason I care is because if you love sex, wait till you have it when healthy. Harder dick, better stamina, pure fucking GOD mode. It's worth the diet struggles, trust me.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, having sex and really enjoyed it definitely adds an extra bit of motivation- imagine how much better this would be without my gut getting in the way! More stamina, the whole nine yards!

I am definitely working on it, and I am confident that I will succeed in losing weight! I can't wait to be smashing women who actually like me!

[–]LethalShade0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean this in the least insulting way possible but your issue is mental illness, not an innate of discipline or will power. There's an enormous social stigma of mental illness in contemporary western society and it's ruining a lot of people's lives.

Spending years thinking you're facing the same issues as everyone else and for some reason, you're just unable to push through them because of a lack of self-discipline or accountability will destroy one internally.

[–]Shankar_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Massive respect bro. Keep it up. Great post too.

[–]Fat_SMP_peruser30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I read the title wrong. I know I'm in the minority here but I would love to fuck an obese virgin prostitute.

[–]1RXRob18 points19 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

What a story. I love it.

We've reached a point where we can eat what we like, exercise as little as we like, and simply cross the border to live out our fantasies on a whim. This is a great time to be alive.

[–]notachadthunder7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

lol good points! I was an average looking guy up until around age 35, then I started putting on weight. Up until then I had been with about 6 women.

After the age of 35 I started frequenting massage parlours and traveling to Cuba (I live in Toronto) and the Dominican and had sex with dozens, heck hundreds of women 18-25.

My weight nor looks were an issue with the 3rd world hotties that begged for my attention.

I felt like a 270lb stud.

[–]1RXRob6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I haven't used a working girl yet, but I went Amsterdam in January (I'm in England) and the 10s on display opened my eyes.

I no longer fear getting old, fat or ugly.

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you remember the going rate for the 10s?

[–]1RXRob0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't enquire. But a night in a hotel and two days of non stop eating, drinking and smoking only cost me about 170 euros

[–]Auphor_Phaksache20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I've got game and this beat my Tijuana experience of fucking Lupe on a dirty mattress on the floor with a statue of mother Mary watching for $20. So I'd call this a 10/10 win.

[–]chris_sydney2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dirty Mary approves your wand skills.

[–]GoRedBad 6 points6 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I would just like to offer a counterpoint to the notion repeated oft in this thread that "we all pay for sex in some fashion or other".

Yes, you may spend money on drinks, nice clothes, club entry, taxis and such like. You may spend time chatting her up, and dealing with obstacles and logistics. You may spend energy developing your personality and body. You may have a tremendous emotional cost if you ever deal with breakups, cheating, her playing games and suchlike.

However, these are only "costs" if they are things you are doing specifically to get women that you wouldn't be doing otherwise.

If you are working on yourself for your own satisfaction, buying drinks because you want to, and basically doing all this stuff for YOU, then it is not a cost if that time/money/energy also happens to net you nice women to fuck. And you can avoid emotional entanglements if all you are looking for is a wet hole. Just don't invest.

I get that you are in bad shape, physically and emotionally, and probably it would take you years to get a fuck if you hadn't resorted to hookers (it took me two long years from the moment I learned about game to KISSING a woman, and I'm not even fat). So good for you spending that money (which I'm sure is hard earned) practically on a real need.

But do not rationalise continued spending as being equivalent to the behaviour of more successful men. It is simply not true.

A masculine man can get hot girls for a tiny fraction of the investment you made, or indeed none at all. The best men pursue their own interests for their own sake, and women are merely a side benefit of their drive and ambition.

Now you need to utilise the temporary boost you've gotten from these hoes, and let it carry you through a few rejections in the real world to toughen you up. Go ahead and empty your nuts in Tijuana a couple more times, but only on the understanding that it is an artificial boost. You could even have a threesome, then ditch the hoes and go try your luck in a regular nightclub. Think how good you will feel having blasted your balls over a couple of hotties an hour prior, and with a penthouse waiting for you, it'll be a lot easier to find the confidence to make some real moves.

If you put any stock in the idea of social proof (you should), you might exploit it by hiring a couple of hoes to merely accompany you in the club.

If I were like you, with money to burn, I'd buy a ticket to an RSD bootcamp.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for the thoughtful post. The theory of "everyone pays for sex" did help tip the scales when I was first making the decision. However, that was never the main justification or rationalization. I just simply wanted to have sex, and this was the only means available to me.

I know that attractive men don't have to pay hookers. But I also know that I'm not an attractive man. So, am I never going to get to experience what it's like to have sex because successful men don't have to pay for it?

Anyways, I get what you're saying. And I've watched some RSD videos, it does look like a very solid program.

[–]NietzscheExplosion7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This post is tremendous value to RP, Many men who have been married for 20 years never had this good a sex experience.

And then they pay 1000X for their long drawn out denouement, and you just walk across the border.

Remember you are paying them to go away not for sex.

[–]chris_sydney5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I gave advice to some random guy here in TRP. I said that he should pay to lose his virginity but he should do it ASAP. First, it makes you more relaxed. It's much easier to sleep with 11th woman than 1st. Doesn't matter if you have paid for some of them on the way. Second, even the free women cost you something. Drinks, cab ride, your own time, lost nerve cells, etc.

But for you, my dear OP... You need to drag your fatass to gym. And google ketogenic diet.

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[–]_eskimo_brothers_2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

This read like all of those landing pages that in the end ask for a totally refundable (wink) low monthly fee of $69, no wait, act now and only $29 a month for weight loss secrets. I know it wasn't your intention, but it gave me a laugh. I applaud you helping this guy, with the right direction he's on his way to becoming the man he wants to be.

Good on ya OP but to echo prostaddict below:

"It's good that you got those experiences - but eventually sex will be a normal thing. Imagine working on yourself to the point that a hot girl will keep chasing you, sleeping over with you, doing whatever it takes to hold onto you. A shallow 1 hour romp where the girl leaves with your hard earned cash and fucks the AF club owners for free in an orgy after is not worth it man. Be glad you experienced that fantasy - but open your eyes to the real world and work to own it. As Robert Glover in 'No More Mr Nice Guy' says - learn to dwell in reality"

Read - No More Mr. Nice Guy and Rationale Male stat. Great sex is amazing, but learn to acheive the goals (like losing weight) women are simply a byproduct of a happy and successful life.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Then post a thread about it or something you jolly african american

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW165 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Firstly, great field report OP. It was fun to read and you pulled no punches on yourself or your situation. I hope you keep writing progress reports.

Over the course of the next two days, I fucked a total of 5 women. Some of them were unenthusiastic and just trying to get me to come as fast as possible so they could get on their way.

No offense but one of the reasons I never fucked any prostitutes--despite living in Bangkok and taking frequent trips to Pattaya (aka whore mecca)--is because I know that 1000s of too fat, or too old, or too maladjusted, or diseased men have been in that pussy before me. The HIV/STI rates for these women is scary high, and they are just broken ghosts inside. Some have to be drunk or high to perform. It's the act of a clown; they have to pretend they are enjoying it and sometimes they just can't pretend that night and you are getting a glimpse of how they all really feel.

But, I ain't judging you. Or, maybe I am. Now that you've had this great experience you ought to consider putting in the blood, sweat, and tears to improve yourself to earn genuine attraction. I think many men would agree that there is no substitute for when a girl is so addicted to you she begs for your cock and wants your cum inside her--when she finds you so irresistible that she will risk all the hazards of childbirth because her feminine essence demands the best--and she thinks she has found it in you. This is a great dynamic worth the price of admission.

Or maybe you are pleased where you are at. There are lots of guys that stick to pay-to-play action 'til the day they die. I've seen guys that look about 90 in Pattaya with some little Thai hooker assisting him out of a wheelchair. It's hilarious and sad at the same time. But I have to admit, if you are getting what you want out of life then have at it. No one can tell you what to do. Do keep writing, though, on that point I must insist.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man I appreciate it.

For sure, I would like to keep improving and eventually fuck regular women who actually like me.

I enjoyed sex so much (it really seems to agree with my constitution) that I can only imagine how great it will be with a woman who wants to fuck me!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, hygiene and STDs are something that worries me the most about prostitutes. Also whether they're just broke students looking for some extra income or heroin addicts doing it in order to feed their addiction. Yuck. Also escorts are always lying about their age. If she says she's 30, add 10 years on top of that.

I wish prostitution is legalized and regulated everywhere like it is in Germany for instance. Government is making billions in taxes, prostitutes are safe from any form of abuse, clients know what are they getting for their money, safe from tricks and STDs. Everyone's satisfied.

[–]RageLionRising17 points18 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

All men pay for sex one way or the other. The sex you don't pay for is the most expensive sex of all in the long term. I would suggest a financial arrangement as opposed to a straight up hooker though.
 

But yes, you do deserve to be raked over the coals for being a fat ass. Keep lifting. Buy yourself a home weight set so you can work out when you want. Compound lifts especially. Bench press, squats, and deadlifts are the most important. Squats and deadlifts increase your testosterone which will burn the fat off quickly. Then do your overhead press and barbell rows.
 

Even hookers prefer to fuck a guy who is fit. But don't lose the weight for them. Lose the weight so you become strong and look strong, burn off the frustrations of life, and have more energy to make more money.

[–]trpthrowaway185222 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

If you look at Depp's divorce and his $40 million dollars loss, he could've gotten 9 $5,000 escorts every night, for 15 months, and he would've been in a lot happier place.

[–]RageLionRising40 points41 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

His balls would have been so drained he would have looked like an Auschwitz victim.
 

Gaunt face, ribs and limbs completely emaciated. Imagine looking into those poor sunken puppy dog eyes.
 

"Day 421. Escort #3,789. I'm dehydrated. One more month to go. Can't go on much longer. I have no strength. My scrotum looks like a raisin."

[–]trpthrowaway185226 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."

[–]1Ronin11A6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

he could've gotten 9 $5,000 escorts every night, for 15 months, and he would've been in a lot happier place

He would have been Dan Bilzerian.

Go check out Bilzerian's Facebook some time. Look at the number of white knights insulting him for his "whores" and mocking his "small" legs. The seething jealousy is hilarious.

As if multiple dinners, gifts, flowers, pretending to care and so forth is so much more honorable than just giving the girl $1,000 and cutting to the chase.

[–]RedPillRedemption0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is compound lifting enough to lose weight? I absolutely hate cardio of any form, but love lifting.

[–]RageLionRising2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's absolutely good enough to lose fat. I gained muscle weight in my thighs, upper torso, and arms; but lost fat around my neck and stomach. There's a guy who looks like George W. Bush on Youtube who talks about why cardio is not the best for men (it can apparently lower testosterone), and why they should mainly stick to weights primarily. George W. Bush muscle guy is somewhat full of b.s. because he's obviously on test and human growth hormone, but based on my own results weight training is sufficient enough to start losing significant amounts of fat. Weight lifting acts like an all around mild drug that improves your social standing and power in the real world. It's pretty fucking cool.
 

But yes, stick to compound lifts the most. The big three (bench press, squats, and deadlifts) and then followed by the last two (overhead press and barbell rows). The fat will go away and the muscle will build rapidly. Even more important get the weight set at home.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I highly recommend prostitutes for any man who is objectively, really, unattractive.

Why?

Because being unattractive can be a vicious cycle... you're unattractive, so you're unconfident, so you're unattractive, so you're inexperienced, so you're unconfident... etc.

Spending money on gorgeous whores can break the mental part of that cycle. It's impossible to be intimidated by that decently attractive 7.5 on campus when you've banged a different 9 every week for a month. When you have it ingrained in your soul that you can have a beautiful girl for $200-300 (or an acceptable one for $100-150), you'll never be tongue-tied or over-eager again.

And you'll never get tooled. If 250 is the price of pussy, then 250 is the price of pussy. Any woman who wants you to buy her a ring is just gonna get laughed at.

I also recommend prostitutes for very wealthy men, since they charge a flat fee, and dates/LTRs tend to try to gold-dig for a percentage.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yea, I definitely agree. I've been noticing little things. I am a lot less intimidated by my female classmates, like you said. I hold eye contact longer, and just feel a lot more relaxed and happy around them. Obviously, this whole experience has taken place alongside my swallowing of TRP, so I'm sure it's not all from the hookers. Plus, I haven't actually converted any of this newfound confidence into getting laid, so right now it's just hot air. But still, I definitely notice a difference.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The confidence is actually more important than the getting laid.

Why? Because you've realized that pussy is a commodity. And like all commodities, it has a price. And like all prices, those who don't have good market information get taken advantage of by those who do.

Right now, you're not much to look at. Probably feel like a loser. With a fair amount of justification. But here's the important bit... you no longer use "can or can't get laid" as a measure of loserdom.

A man who measures himself by, or others, by volume or quality of pussy, is a man who has conceded to women the total and undisputed power to judge what is admirable, and what is contemptible, who is worthwhile and important, and who is not.

And yet you have just seen this is a lie. The price of pussy is 50-500 dollars. "Can get 500 dollars" is not much of a criterion for living your life right.

The truth is that women are terrible judges of character. That's why they sleep with failures (so long as those failures are Chaddish), and why preselection works... because if you don't how to judge, you take a consensus from others and hope.

So now you know a secret. Being awesome might get you laid, but getting laid does not make you awesome.

In fact, you know two secrets. Pussy is just a basic biological need... it's nice to have more and better, but at certain point, enough is enough. You will never build a happy life solely out of pussy, no matter how gorgeous and plentiful, any more than you could build happiness from fine food and wine.

Happiness comes from a feeling of connectedness and accomplishment. Acquire friends and goals.

[–]Shankar_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is beautifully written.

[–]trpthrowaway18528 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nicely done. I've finally took the plunge this Monday. It was quite a liberating experience, as it was a smooth transaction.

Now that you have experienced what most men can only dream of, do not get complacent, remember this feeling when you carry on your daily life. As someone legendary once said, "don't be a sad cunt, be a sick cunt."

[–]Banned_For_Opinion2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It makes me sad after reading your amazing story that obese women can still pick and choose for the most part who they get to have sex with.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh... I say, good for them! It sucks to be sexually powerless and marginalized. Just because I had to be miserable does not make me hope that fat women do too.

The more people who can feel sexually satisfied and empowered the better, IMO

[–]pilledwillingly3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good on you, mate. What's going to happen now is that you've fucked all these 10's, you're going to not give a fuck about what the 6's and 7's in your home life have to think. And then you'll start getting their attention and you'll know how to deal with it. As you get fitter and a better mindset you'll be fucking who you want and the price will be a movie ticket.

[–]Thaway321333 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

One word for you man: Bangkok.

Forget what you read about ladyboys, that's bullshit and after a few days there you spot them easily (unless you're wasted drunk).

They don't care about your looks, only your money. It's really cheap, the girls are high quality and they are really really nice to you.

[–]ChadThundercockII2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A city that has the words Bang and Cock in it is certainly worth a visit.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea, I keep hearing that I should book a trip for Asia. I probably will in the future. To be honest, I am more physically attracted to White and Latina women than Asians, but I look forward to trying new things and seeing what's out there!

[–]trp-sama0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would say Pattaya over Bangkok. More condensed and cheaper in my experience.

That said either one is definitely worth a visit. Also for OP if you are flying out that way (SE Asia) you should look into Angeles City in the Philippines too. Even cheaper and some of the sweetest girls I have ever paid to fuck me (they will be staying with you for the whole night for the same prices you talked about in TJ).

[–]LeftShark863 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Awesome FR. Welcome to the world of women. Not only are you more sexually experienced, confident, and just plain happy, but you now know the true market price of pussy. Every time you decide to pursue a girl you're attracted to, you'll always compare the time/effort/money you're spending to what the actual market price is. You'll have a pseudo abundance mentality and this will naturally lead you to be more successful with every woman.

You also have great stories and perceived social proof. Drop into conversation that you've had a threesome (you don't have to mention you paid for it) and she'll be surprised and now curious as to what's in between your legs.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks man!

It's weird, because I actually do find myself more confident. I haven't forgotten that I had to pay prostitutes, but for whatever reason I feel much more confident and comfortable than I did when I was a virgin. Still haven't had any real success yet though, so I better not let it get to my head.

[–]DouglasPR2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also the next girl you fuck without payment will not have power of life and death over you. It was going to be the case if you were the previous inexperienced guy.

[–]MeedoGunt5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

How did you deal with the fact of being forced to pay for sex, for losing your virginity?

I'm 24 years old and I'm kissless virgin. I considered many times the "hooker factor" but, leaving aside financial problems, I would feel bad and sad about it.

Not because of moral ideas, but because of my own self image.

I would tell myself "why should I spend money to "simply" lose my virginity, something that every normal male gets easily? why should I spend money to have adventures, when other men have it without prostitution?"

It's true that you always pay for pussy, one way or the other, but I can't shake the feeling that 'randomly' meeting a girl in normal life situations and then fucking her, would be a real triumph, a giant "take that, life". Paying for hookers wouldn't.

Did you ever have these kind of thoughts?

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The fact that I shouldn't have to pay for women to want to sleep with me! was the last obstacle to overcome. In the end, it just went away with time.

I eventually realized that I was actually unfuckable and that I actually did have to pay for sex. Think about what a depressing, bitter pill that is to swallow. But, it is better to be honest and realistic with yourself than be delusional about your own value. At that point, my ego was dead and my self-esteem was at 0. From there, it was a simple decision- what do I do about it?

And, once I did it, I realized what a great decision it was. This was not about ego any more, or the bragging about getting laid. It was about getting to experience something wonderful that had been denied me for so long. It really wasn't a big deal in the way I thought it would be, and I haven't felt any guilt or shame whatsoever. Quite the contrary- it was absolutely fantastic. I am still grinning, and it has been a week since I got back. Fucking five girls multiple times over the course of two days will do that.

As far as wanting to bang a girl and say:"take that, life!" ... yea, that would still be cool. Doing the one does not preclude the other. If I was able to just go out and bed an attractive woman, I probably would have done that. But now that I've experienced how awesome things can be, I doubt I will ever not fuck prostitutes, even if I do become attractive enough to fuck regular women. Again, it has to do with ego and its absence- this is not about proving anything to myself or others anymore (since life already proved that I am woefully unattractive)... it is about having an awesome experience. And yes, having great sex with a girl that is actually attracted to me and I don't have to pay would probably be best. So, when that option arrives, I will take it.

In the meantime, I am not going to let my pride prevent me from having sex.

[–]MeedoGunt4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah man, that's pride. I coudln't find the right english word before.

thank you for your answer. I feel I could learn a thing or two about pride.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for you man. Nothing wrong with prostitution. I believe that as long as both parties are consenting to it, then it should be allowed.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

something that every normal male gets easily?

The only males that lose their virginity easily are Gay Men.

why should I spend money to have adventures, when other men have it without prostitution?"

I pay for sex. Not directly with money but I still have to buy shit to keep her entertained and I have to spend time doing stuff I don't want to do in order to get laid.

Everyone pays for sex because demand outstrips supply for sex.

If you don't want to pay for sex, download Grindr and put a pic up, say Hi, and ask if they're a top or bottom, and work out logistics.

Done.

If you want to fuck Girls, you have to pay for it.

[–]MeedoGunt0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

what about the field reports talked in seddit? Or like hooking up with a girl on Tinder and having sex? A friend of mine did that with little to no investiment, if we don't include the time he spent meeting her and talking with her a couple of dates. (that might be also enjoyable per se).

On the other hand, moving on long term relationships, I can imagine what you mean in terms of investment.

[–]chaosmech2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He still had to invest in himself, becoming an attractive man that women want to fuck.

Whether you're paying directly with money, with emotional/monetary investment in the woman, or in investment of time/effort into yourself to become Chad, you're always paying somehow to fuck women.

[–]ChadThundercockII2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

and fucking prostitutes will give you a short cut to abundance mentality and stoicism.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In that case you are paying with your validation of her as a sexual being.

They're just setting the cost very low.

[–]prostaddict4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Be very careful. I lost my virginity in Amsterdam, and I proceeded to sleep with 9 prostitutes within those 6 months. It gave me variety and experience. I was able to score a girlfriend with a 10 body but maybe a 7 face later on - note, I was still very overweight (and she was a single mother).

A year later, I was beta bux for a 10 - and I found out she was cheating on me with a chizzled 6'2 chad. Went back to escorts, and I found an all time favorite that I would visit. She then disappeared and moved - her agency told me 'her gangster ex boyfriend got out of jail and found out what she's doing now' .

After years, I started developing immense shame around seeing prostitutes - and I've conditioned myself to go to them as opposed to trying to attract a pretty girl on my own merits. It becomes a miserable reality when you believe you aren't attractive enough on your own.

It's good that you got those experiences - but eventually sex will be a normal thing. Imagine working on yourself to the point that a hot girl will keep chasing you, sleeping over with you, doing whatever it takes to hold onto you. A shallow 1 hour romp where the girl leaves with your hard earned cash and fucks the AF club owners for free in an orgy after is not worth it man. Be glad you experienced that fantasy - but open your eyes to the real world and work to own it. As Robert Glover in 'No More Mr Nice Guy' says - learn to dwell in reality

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW163 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great wisdom you are dropping on OP. This is the kind of real world experience men come to TRP to learn from and share. Also, relevant username.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man. I appreciate the advice, and will definitely heed your warning.

[–]samurai692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You made a wise choice, my friend! I used to see escorts regularly, one more beautiful than another, for the same price every time! Financially makes much more sense than going to bars and clubs, at least for ugly guys including myself.

But be careful, it's addictive!

[–]DBsix2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post got me thinking. Is it possible to train men to exercise their willpower and just fucking start losing weight? I remember I was fat for a long time but there was a moment where I just went, "this is it, I am going to seriously attempt this and lose all this fucking fat!", went to the gym and paid a costly one year membership uptop just so that I had the greatest leverage I could have to go. What is that emotional event that gives lazy asses like the past me and the present OP that kick in the butt? If someone can figure that out and train it, there's service to be done and money to be made.

[–]Eidolon34362 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I would just like to give you a solid "well done bro"! You wanted something and took the steps effective to make it happen. Many a dude in a similar position would still be sitting in the USA saying "well its not real if I paid". Bullshit. What you did was fitting, admirable.. and most importantly..not the slightest bit fucking squeamish. Props. Next step... you can now get your wick wet...so focus on getting healthier weight wise...more years of whores if you dont stroke or M.I. right?

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. That is a good way to look at it haha!

[–]HAMMURABl2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

At some point you realize every woman is a whore. Some just want cash up front, others want promises of you to pay for all their expenses, others want you to work for them for free. You are paying either way.

And that ain't even coming from an ugly duckling. I have tons on 7s and 8s on Tinder, but I just cant be bothered to go through the meeting process just to have a CHANCE at fucking one of these. Rather put in some hours more at work and bang a HB10 that makes my dick rock hard just from looking at her.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well done. Remember, your life is yours alone. Enjoy it as you see fit and fuck the haters, The only person ever responsible for your happiness is you.

[–]Davemgi2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I myself have always been extremely overweight and have used prostitution many times to get my fix, some good experiences some bad. About a year ago I decided enough was enough and got serious about my health, went straight monk mode!

I was 35 years old and 370++ now 36 and 240 and still loosing, lift hard (strong lifts 5x5) and can do things in and out of the gym I never thought possible.

Let me tell you from real experience sex is insanely better now, girls want to have sex, I can be powerful and dominant in bed. It's worth the effort to take care of your self for a million reasons, a good sex life is just one!

[–]askmrcia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I went to tijuana Mexico and Hong Kong club two months ago for spring break. Any man reading this, let me tell you, it's the greatest thing on earth. The woman are flat out gorgeous. And honestly I got discounts out of one girl because I think she had a crush on me. Paid her $60 for an hour and she was telling me her whole life.

But tijuana Mexico is paradise. Everyman should go. I really wish prostitution was legal in the US. You'll see much happier men.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbogeyd62 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I really enjoyed this read. You know what your problems are, you half owned your shit, and you did something about that. You know where you need to go, that's better than most men ever get.

[–]thomascoopers2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fantastic report.

Be careful about slipping into the BP mindset that you're a disgusting human for using a sex workers.

It's fucked - we're forced to believe that sex work is a legit and wholesome type of income. If we attach any stigma to sex workers, we're pigs. There's apparently nothing wrong with being a sex worker.

But if you're the client, not the worker - you're a vile human.

Fuck that heat - get your own, mate, and never look back

[–]NE555se4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

OP i can relate to you in some way, currently as far weight goes i am in better shape with 180cm height and 88 kg. I was when younger,around 21/22 150kg for a short period. I am a year older(28) still a virgin. I have just as you an eating dissorder(binge eating). I am not looking for excuses but it takes some very hard will to combat that shit. And the more shitty you feel, the more you feel like eating. The more you eat, the more shitty you feel.

I appreciate your FR as it is very actual for me. For me virginity is a mental handicap. I will probably go visit a hooker within 2 weeks.

A bit of advice, i still eat alot. But i also move a lot. Now lifting while it has benefits it doesnt burn so many calories and you cant do it for 2h+ (i do lift). Now diet is the main thing. You cant out-train a bad diet and since your full of energy and enthusiasm atm do that shit NOW. START TODAY. Start counting calories and you will be suprised just how much more you eat then you need. Also it is very important what kind of food you eat. Anyway food is much harder thing to combat then working out.

Ok as far moving goes i like hiking and cycling. I hated any kind of sport as a kid. You just need to find a sport you will like. Also with that weight any sport is hard at beginning but its gets better with time. I also like hiking and cycling because once on bike and going somewhere you have a goal and then you also need to come back, you cant just give up somewhere cuz you will be stuck.

However i cant say from experiences, but while sex may be overpowering i think you might start to fell empty over time. Because getting a prostitute to fuck with you will be a mather of $$, while you will know that these females dont really desire or genuinely love you. Yeah, yeah i know trp advocates females cant love you the way guys want, but it still feels good for all these fuckers to be desired by females. I had some looks here and there and i can tell you it does feel good. Didnt act on them because of low self-esteem tho.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks brother! I appreciate the advice.

  1. Good luck with losing the virginity. I will tell you, being fat is no obstacle to getting as much sex as you can handle, from very beautiful women (as long as you have the cash!). It is strange to realize, but goddamn it feels good. Also remember that she is there to please you, not the other way around. Don't worry if you're "performing well" or anything else. Just be present in the moment and enjoy it!

  2. I understand your warning about the feeling of emptiness. However, for me I have started out at 100% empty to begin with. Being a 27 year old male virgin will absolutely kill all ego and self-esteem, as you well know. I already know that they don't desire or love me- but no one does now anyways so who the fuck cares? All of that goes out the window when she is pressing herself against you as you fuck her.

Anyways, good luck brother, and godspeed! Let us know how it turns out!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good on you.

What was the total cost for your holiday? I wonder how it'd compare to a "normal" holiday in terms of costs and experiences.

Love the username. Now when you lose weight and deal with regular Women you know that it's really just the same thing.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. Both times I went there, I ended up spending a little over $1000 U.S.

This included an excellent hotel room with jacuzzi tub for two nights, taxis to and from the club, drinks, lapdances, tips, food, and of course lots of sex with five different women each trip. I definitely spent more than I had to, but I was looking for a certain type of experience.

However, you could do the whole trip much cheaper. If you don't mind a simpler room, and just do 30 minute sessions, you could spend as little as $200. Also, you could stay at a different hotel altogether and spend way less by picking up street girls. Plus, not every guy wants to have as much sex as I did. I ended up fucking most of them twice each hour long session. That's 10 times I came in two days, which may be excessive for some.

Was it worth it? Depends on the guy I suppose. For me, it was definitely worth it. I need to stop for a long while and replenish my war funds though.

[–]Glennus6261 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Save your money and do two weeks in Thailand, you will not be disappointed

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very well written OP. I like how you started it with admitting to your flaws. That got the reader to be more sympathetic (at least for me). Great read the rest of the way as well. I have to say for a fat guy, you sound really good in the sack. Taking on 5 women in 2 days. 3 in one day is something for someone who doesn't get laid often or maybe that's why. You saved up all that stamina. Good on you. Best of luck on your continued journey to self actualization.

[–]Mitchell781 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well done man btw i have been fucking prostitutes occasionally for more then a decade (must be close to triple digets now). Losing weight, getting in shape will make sex better, so let that motivate you.

[–]rapthorjesus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude this is awesome! It really took some balls to do it, glad you did this man! Overweight or not you're a better man than most of these blue pill earing wearing phucboi's! Dude I spent a 2 grand on my ex-Girlfriend just for her birthday we always pay for pussy in one way or another. This isn't about me this is Chazthundergut goes to Hong Kong Tijuana and slays!

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Really interesting post. I speak fairly good spanish so this makes me really consider a trip I'd never thought of before.

One of the more interesting things I've discovered is that I've started dating younger women, it wasn't until actually getting first-hand real world experiences that the blue-pill programming that my dating wasn't "age appropriate" (as the male shaming expression goes) for wanting women in their mid-to-early 20s.

However, actually going out and doing it rather than being afraid changes you a lot.

I'd considered using "hired girls" lol to really get more experience with younger women in a shorter amount of time. I've noticed a few really cute younger/beautiful women advertising as sugar babies or part-time hookers.

Something to think about.

By the way, look at it this way: you basically only have nowhere to go but up once you lose the weight and dress better. You just got some serious experience with women so all the better you get your SMV up and use what you learned.

Thanks for the post!

[–]ChadThundercockII1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

but I cannot for the life of me stop smiling. I have this stupid silly grin on my face. I can’t get over how blessed I am, and how happy I am to be a man alive today. It is a beautiful life.

I laughed my ass off at this, OP. I know what it means. I have the same wide grin on my face whenever I walk on the street after nutting in a beautiful girl who won't give me shit or stress me out. It's surreal. More reasons to work hard and get those 100$ bill.

Keep on trucking, my dude. Also, lose the weight to enjoy better sex just workout. Go into a gym and lift some weights, fuck around and enjoy it. Don't worry about losing weight. Worry about getting strong.

[–]0h50dr0w5y1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, I lost my virginity at 20 to a prostitute as well. While I've never been as obese as you, I wasn't in the best shape.

When I started seeing K-Girls (Korean Girls,) I realized how much I wanted to be good at sex, and i lost bunch of weight hit the gym and started getting thin and healthy. Now these girls practically fuck me for free.

[–]DouglasPR1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great story, bro. If I may: 1- cheap places equals bad experience. The good thing is expensive but rewarding. You did right. Wait to have some good money and get the real deal. 2- Keep using condom for oral sex, be safe. Herpes is real. 3- Keto diet may help you on weight problem. It helped me get under 200 pounds. 4- Empty your nuts with professionals calms we down, diminishes the power hoes have on us. Your game is gonna be better once you start to see theire so entitled and not all that attractive. You always have the alternative so you keep your self respect and confidence.

[–]trp-sama1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great report OP. I think you did the right thing. I know most of society will try to tell you something is wrong with prostitution but I think it is a great tool that every man should keep in his bag. While I am able to get 'normal' girls at home I still like to get some 'pros' when I have the time/money.

I am actually really for prostitution and think all guys should try it at some point. There is a certain attitude or mentality that comes with having already slept with a 10 and knowing you already had more crazy sexual experiences than most men will have in their lifetime. I accept that I will never be a Brad Pitt or whoever else, I won't be getting the girls they get without either becoming a lot more successful than I am now or paying for a pro. And thats ok.

Good luck going forward from here. I hope in the future you will be posting a report about how you lost the weight, but in the mean time I am glad you are able to enjoy yourself!

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post, man. There are, sadly, lots of men that still have a moralistic comme-il-faut stance regarding prostitution. I really don't know wtf these guys imagine a realistic end game to be, having written-off prostitution.

Also, you are so cool handling the covert shaming attempts! You seem to have got your shit together, and I enjoy your guiltless, pragmatic disposition.

-Adam

[–]TWYW1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is this real life? It this really TRP?

Ok you paid for sex. Nothing wrong with it. I just don't see anything RP in your post. No self improvement, nothing. This post adds zero to the board. Nothing personal man, if you're happy good for you. I'd rather read you working hard on yourself and in the meanwhile seeing hookers. Not just accept your obesity. But in the end you're missing out cause you can't pay for true female desire.

Hope you can find it one day. You will have deserved it by then.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is RP in that it discusses one possible sexual strategy for men, which is TRP's stated purpose.

This is a strategy that most are not interested in utilizing, and I understand that (I'm not trying to convince anyone to start fucking prostitutes). But I found it transformative for my own life and I'd wager there may be one or two men here who might benefit from knowing that they do not have to suffer as a virgin into their late twenties and thirties. That they don't have to let any physical or perceived deficiencies hold them back from lots of sex with beautiful women.

I am talking openly and honestly about an option that is there, which carries a lot of negative social stigma, and sharing my own experience. That is all.

[–]BlackHera1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Takes alot of balls to post this, even if its on here. Like the top rated comment said, women cost, no matter how you look at it. Keep striving to become happy with YOU. Love YOU and the world will fall at it's fucking knees.

[–]1StoicCrane1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As a ripped dude 5'9 178lbs ripped and lean like an aspiring model I want to do this! Have a tough time getting lays lately because chicks in my parts are predominantly land-whales. I have no drive to plow free-willies. Can't get sprung to that. OPmakes banging escorts seem like a stay at a luxury resort! Kudos OP, this is a story of triumph!

[–]BlueNoMore1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucking great post man. This was baptism by fire. You got wonderful pussy, and a threesome with 2 hot girls. The beauty of this is now you have abundance mentality and you will treat the average girl for what she is, a non-exclusive source of pussy. You had the best, you are unplugged, I honestly don't know how to word this. Average girls can't top that shit. Happy for you.

Now, back to your weight. I was fat myself. At the age of 13 I was 200 punds. I lost 55 in a year. Let me quote you on this:

Mindset A:

I felt helpless and hopeless as a 27 year old virgin.

Something changes

I became more and more frustrated

and here you have Mindset B:

Eventually, about six months ago and at the age of 27, I decided that I wasn't going to "wait" any longer and I was going to do something about it.

Mindset B got you laid. You decided that you weren't going to wait any longer, you changed your state, and you took massive actions.

The only reason why people don't have what they want in life is the story they tell themselves about why they can't have it.

Now, your mindset A about weight:

since I am obviously unable or unwilling to lose weight

It's your job now to change this lie you tell yourself to:

Mindset B:

I can lose weight and I will do it, not for getting pussy but for myself. Pussy will come as a natural consequence.

You can do it dude

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thumbs up for the thoughtful and powerful response! You are absolutely right. This is a really great way to look at it, and I will use it for sure. Thanks!

[–]dunny7771 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post man! Genuinely happy for you. I'm in a similar position and am considering doing this, any tips for a first timer?

[–]kouklamou921 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just want to say, while I'm glad you had a good time, that you might not have needed to do that. I've fucked dudes who, if they weren't 300 lbs, they were definitely over 250 (and not in a muscle-y way). They key was confidence. Not being a douchebag, mind you, but confidence. It sounds like you are very unconfident, and I now that's hard to fix (I had to do it myself) but it's SO worth it and I think you'll feel better and have more success in general in your life, not just your love life. The guys I hooked up with wanted me, were comfortable with themselves, and friendly. That's seriously all it takes. Not every girl is gonna go for it, but TRUST me when I say there's a good number of us that will. Just be friendly, confident, and not creepy.

Oh, and before you go into that "everyone pays for sex" bullshit I see you commented down below, ain't nobody paid shit for me. Once or twice I let the one guy pay for my Uber to his place because I was dead broke and literally couldn't afford it, but I cooked for him several times so I didn't feel too bad about it. We kind of became friends as well as fuck buddies so it was more like a favor from a friend when I couldn't have come to see him otherwise.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Well done - I think every virgin needs to do this even just to see what they are missing.

On the fat thing, change your diet - read ingredients - nothing with fat or sugar. Eliminate alcohol. No takeaways. Start a couch to 5K. If you're 300 lbs, fuck lifting for now.

[–]Ultimate_Failure9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Start a couch to 5K. If you're 300 lbs, fuck lifting for now.

If you're 300 lbs, I don't think you need to be trying to run at that weight. Lifting, on the other hand, can be done safely at any weight, as long as you can do the movements.

But really your priority should be to lose weight. Diet is paramount; exercise at this point is relatively unimportant. I suggest a ketogenic diet, which has its own subreddit, but I can't mention the name due to the idiotic rules of this sub.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Walking is fine, but even that should be limited at this point.

[–]forcevacum2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, this guy will increase his smv by two points at least without ever stepping foot in a gym though. At his weight he only needs to focus on diet and scrap the idea of gaining muscle for at least six months.

[–]pedler2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Those prices are ridiculous for Latin america. But if you can afford it more power to you!

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know that there are a lot of clubs, even next door to the one I was at, that have girls for cheaper. There are also lots of street hookers on that block who could've cost me much less.

The convenience of taking the girl straight from the club up to my connected hotel room was one major factor. Plus, the quality of women. You wouldn't believe how hot some of these women are. The ones on the website are the lowest quality, bottom-of-the-barrel who are willing to have their pictures out there. These are the ones doing the shaving cream and dildo shows at the stripclub. But if you are a genuinely hot girl selling your body in TJ, you are working at Hong Kong. It really blew my mind. I have been to stripclubs in Vegas, San Diego, and Los Angeles, and I can honestly say that there were many (but not all) girls in Hong Kong stripclub that were as hot as anywhere else. Except here, you can take them upstairs and fuck them.

Lastly, my rates were all for one-hour sessions, rather than the 30-minute standard ($80 at Hong Kong). And most of these ran over the clock, but since I had my own room it was of no consequence. I wanted more than just a quick fuck, and in most cases, I got it!

But yes, all that being said, I am sure I massively overpaid. I spent way too much money. And I do not regret a single penny haha- it was a dream come true!

[–]juliusstreicher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But yes, all that being said, I am sure I massively overpaid. I spent way too much money.

Oh, you must have taken Greyhound. Otherwise, you underpaid for what you got.

[–]KartagoPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I spend high amount of time and money for my LTRs and didn't get awesome sex like you. I'm jealous, jelly.

Gotta try it like u :)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We are animals, and as animals our brain is limited. Even us humans, who have the magnum opus of brain power in the animal world, have a limited amount. Understand that I'm not judging you, you're struggling to loose weight because your brain uses less brainpower to eat more and unhealthy foods than less.

The problem is exacerbated by depression, which drains even more of your brain power into negative self-defeating thoughts.

I have Asperger's syndrome, but luckily enough for me my special interest was people. I studied people's behaviors for the longest time, learned how other people be social, observed body language, and ever since I was a kid my favorite hobby was to just sit down and stare into space thinking about why people act the way they do. I'm 19 now, a very social, if quirky guy. I stutter a lot, but am happy to keep a conversation going. I'm great at introductions and people don't even register most of the time that there is something wrong with me.

I used to have depression because as much as I liked people, middle school doesn't like spergs. It drains you, believe me it does. I can understand people with no willpower, but understand that you can get through it just like I did.

If a sperg nerd like me can become the life of the party, and actually learn to understand social dynamics better than the average person (The main reason I'm at the red pill) then trust me dude, you can loose weight.

Anyone have advice in reducing my stuttering though? For the life of me I can't figure out how to stop.

[–]Stythe0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's good you got to do all this. It's something everyone needs to do and we all start somewhere. Do yourself a favour and stop making excuses about your weight. You mention it a ton and clearly know it's an issue you're avoiding. Just deal with it. I say this not to bash you but to point out that with how good you feel after all these women, the next step is to focus on yourself and start building that feeling from within. That's the key to all this in the end.

Anyway, glad you had a good time and good luck.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks. I have tried to take 100% responsibility for my weight and not making excuses, but I can see why you'd say that. I am just trying to be honest and straightforward and lay all my cards out on the table.

This is what I did, and this is why I did it

[–]Stythe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's fine. Knowing why tou did what you did ia only half the battle. Changing it is the other half. Realistically you can do whatever you want. I just focused in the weight because I get up really fat and it crippled my self-esteem. When I lost a lot of weight I saw a real difference in how I was treated. Now that I'm putting on muscle I see the attention from women. It's a real phenomenon and more than that, it makes you feel capable.

Anyway that's all I have to say on it. Keep on keep on.

[–]Jakei340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Quite the enthusiastic post

[–]creepinglikeacreep0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Was it a cash only place?

like were you in there with a wad of 100s or was there some kind of credit and bill at the end?

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cash only. I think there were ATM's, but I just brought the cash I needed.

[–]probpoopin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't want to take you across the coals. Just curious. What is holding you back from getting in shape? That is pretty much the cornerstone of trp.

[–]SHURIK010 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Prostitutes, as a means to get pussy, have always given me a rather sour feeling. To me they seem like the easy way out - instead of fixing your inner problems you decide to fork out cash.
Still though, this was an excellent read and I'm sincerely happy for you dude! This sort of classy optimism is what I come here for.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I understand that very well- it took me a long time to get comfortable with the idea of it. I'm so glad I did though!

And I'm not going to use it as an excuse to ignore my problems. If anything, this has motivated me to redouble my efforts!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Interesting FR. Curious, have you considered getting weight loss surgery?

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, I have. I considered getting the lap-band or stomach staple or whatever it's called. A man in one of my Overeaters Anonymous groups had one. The problem is, people like me don't overeat little bits and 100 calories at a time. We binge out of anxiety, and when we do we tend to lose control.

So one day this guy had a relapse, even though he wasn't hungry (he was eating out of emotions and not hunger), and he had a big binge. You can only eat small amounts of food after a surgery like that. Long story short, he stuffed himself too much and ruptured the staples in his stomach and ended up in the emergency room.

Luckily, he recovered from it. But that's when I decided that I really needed to solve my emotional and anxiety issues before considering anything like that.

[–]starkhalo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Guy with universal vitiligo reporting in (36 yo.)

I admit the thought has crossed my mind, and I recognize that one way or the other men pay for sex.

Still, I cannot push myself to go to a prostitute. I don't want to touch or be touched by someone who finds me repulsive, it would haunt me forever...

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry about your skin dude. You are 36 years old- are you a virgin?

Do you know about Scott Jorgensen? He's a professional MMA fighter who has the same thing. He is pretty well muscled (obviously) and has some tattoos. I'm sure he has no problem with the ladies!

Anyways, prostitution definitely isn't for everyone. If the thought would "haunt" you then stay away for sure haha! For me, it was the right choice, and it was overall a wonderful experience.

I'm sure the girls all found me repulsive, but that hardly matters when Barbie and Mercedes are grinding in the hot tub, taking turns swallowing my dick you know?

Anyways, good luck brother!

[–]redolas0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get the Four Hour Body from Tim Ferriss. Get on his diet right now. You will get in shape quicker and easier than you ever thought possible. You're never hungry. And if you build your own diet, you never have to eat anything you don't like.

From the diet you can go into the exercises. You can practically build your own program for your life, what you like.

[–]givecake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure I've seen anything constructive in this post about losing weight, but it's a good thing to do, for your health primarily.

But it's hard. It's especially hard when you're fighting against the current. You have to level the playing field to give yourself a chance. That starts with cutting out sugar. No sweet drinks, just water. And even white rice and carbs that turn into sugar instantly are good to cut down on.

[–]doctorlw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This story was great. Happy for you, and sounds like you learned a lot through this entire experience as well. Good on you man.

[–]Luckyluke230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

what I liked most about this fr is how positive op is. i mean, I never thought about getting a prostitute before because....well... fuck who pays for it right?

but after this, It's definitely an option. I haven't had sex in... shit... i can't remember too busy with school.

[–]blackierobinsun20 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

$140 American money or $140 in Mexican money

[–]ravinggigalo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"27 year old obese virgin" what a surprise you're a redpiller lmao

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, since the point of the redpill is to empower men and to provide them with the tools, information, and perspective to successfully navigate the sexual marketplace for their own benefit, it makes sense that a sexually marginalized loser such as myself would seek out such a place.

I was a morbidly obese virgin before finding the redpill (and other similar communities). And I am still morbidly obese- the only difference is that now I've had sex with ten gorgeous women.

I am so glad I found this place, and I am happy to share hope with any other sex-less men who have been mocked and shamed and misled by people such as yourself.

[–]crimsonpowder0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You've spent less money to have more and better sex than most men can dream of. Well done there.

But you have to get lean. Life is so much better when you're not carrying all that extra shit around. Prepare your mind for the fact that it will take 2-3 years if done properly.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks. And yes, I totally agree. Getting healthy and fit is imperative.

[–]2Occams_Shiv2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I won't argue against you- I accept total responsibility for my obesity and as I said I will not defend it.

This right here is the difference between men and women. You will never see a woman own up to her own failure this way. There is always a rationalization for why their current level of fitness/attractiveness/poverty/motherhood isn't their fault.

See a doctor who specializes in nutrition about losing weight, and develop a long term strategy that you can implement. Jumping in to a crazy diet/exercise regimen is a recipe for failure.

Regarding lifting, a lot of people here will recommend Stronglifts 5x5 and/or Starting Strength, but I wouldn't jump into them unless you have access to a good trainer who can train you on proper squat form without damaging your knees. I'm not a personal trainer, and other people on here who know what they are talking about my disagree.

I would check out Power to the People, by Pavel Tatsouline as a way to get your body used to lifting heavy before doing 5x5 under supervision.

The men here won't bullshit you that you are fine just the way you are. (This is always an insult wrapped in reassurance anyway. Which is most female communication) But this is the most supportive place on the planet when it comes to improving yourself and improving your life.

[–]epixs0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I know here on TRP, it's not looked down upon for using escorts and shit, but I believe "you always pay for pussy" isn't true. I've met women (and many others too) who I/they fucked within the same night and didn't spend a dime on them or even in the future. We would fuck and that's it.

I want to try using escorts since you say they really are 10/10 women, but i don't understand why a lot of people say you always pay for pussy.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you LTR you pay for pussy.

[–]peterson20040 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because a man's time is worth money.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Make no mistake these women despise you, and but for the undoubtedly impoverished lives they came from would not be spending one iota of a second with you.

Congratulations.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 17 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Thanks! It was amazing!

Funny how the girls who have liked me the most never wanted to fuck me. Always telling me what a great guy I was and what a good boyfriend I would eventually make, and how lucky my future wife would be. I wish they had despised me and sucked me off and massaged me and played with my balls while their friends fucked my brains out like these hookers did! I would've had a much better time in college haha!

[–]Sol_Install3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Girls who tell you shit like what a great guy you are and it's variants are lying to your face. They want nothing to do with you but in order to spare your feelings, they lie instead. Make no mistake, those same women will come crawling back if you become rich or they have thug spawn with the wrong kind of men.

As people say on here, they see you as a Beta. You'd be surprised how many stories are like what I said above and how many men are outright baffled as to what is going on.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see myself as a Beta- Betas are at least fuckable. I guess I see myself more as an "Omega" or totally removed from the sexual marketplace... Before all this, I would have been happy to be the "provider male" but even that was closed off to me.

As far as whether those women really liked me or not... I don't know. I hesitate to say that they didn't like me or care about me as a person (based on my experience with them), but they definitely didn't see me as sex-worthy. And in the end, even if they did like me, what good did it do me?

[–]tairos2 5 points5 points [recovered] | Copy Link

That just makes it better tbh

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88-3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

This post is pathetic, why is it getting upvoted?

So you went down to one of the biggest shitholes in North America and paid for sex. Whoop de fucking do. Congratulations. Anyone can do that shit.

Isn't the whole point to better yourself and maximize your SMV so you can have sex with beautiful women for free instead of spending your hard earned cash? Without having to travel to a 3rd world shithole like Tijuana?

I am sorry but all of this, in my opinion, seems to go directly against what a lot of this sub stands for. You should be lifting and slimming down and actually spending your money on shit that is important instead of wasting it on dirty 3rd world hookers. Paying a prostitute for sex is just a way of hamstering so you don't improve yourself to the point where you can have it for free.

There is nothing red pill about any of this.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

TRP's mission is to discuss men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men.

Not every man is as successful as you. Some guys, like me, end up almost 30 years old never having experienced sex. I exercised a sexual strategy (one that obviously disgusts you) and had sex with a bunch of hot women.

No words of shame are going to impact me the way that going 27 years without sex impacted me.

There are a lot of men in this world who have been denied access to pussy or are sexually marginalized. I am sharing a sexual strategy that they can consider, and reporting how it went for me. I'm not saying that anyone should stop improving or start fucking hookers. But here is a viable option. It happened to work out well for me, and I am glad I did it.

Sorry you don't approve.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_881 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm just saying, there was nothing red pill about your post. It could have been posted on any other subreddit. What exactly was red pill about it? What red pill principles were applied or learned or exhibited? None.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP's mission is to discuss men's identity, sexual strategy, and options in the context of our current global culture for the benefit of men.

I discussed one possible sexual strategy for men (which I fully understand you don't agree with) and I shared my experience in utilizing this strategy.

I'm getting this mission statement directly from the guidelines here, by the way.

[–]zpatriarchy-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i don't approve either. this post is bullshit. lose the fucking weight. you aren't entitled to pussy. no man is "denied access to pussy" nobody stopped you from losing weight & becoming attractive to girls. the only one stopping you is you.

this isn't a "strategy," anyone can pay for some whores. nbd.

what you need to understand is that there are plenty of unemployed & not handsome men that are also able to have plenty of sex. they do the things that make them attractive to girls. all you did was spend money on whores. you are literally "beta bucks."

the only good thing about this is that no you see that girls will bang for any reason. there isn't a magical barrier keeping you out. now lose the weight, learn more, read the sidebar, become a better man & bang some girls while spending little to no money.

[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It absolutely is a strategy for having sex. You are letting your emotions limit your logical abilities.

Just because a strategy is simple or easy or anyone can do it does not mean it isn't a strategy. In fact, one strength of this particular strategy is precisely that anyone can do it- even fat losers like me.

If I tell someone that one strategy for accumulating wealth is to set aside 10% of their check every month, would you chime in and say "that's not a strategy! ANYONE can do that!" ... what kind of poor logic is this?

I was not having sex. I wanted to have sex. I had sex. In this post, I simply detailed my experience. Now, if you don't like this approach, for moral reasons or because it costs money or it does not lead to the type of sexual relationships that you'd prefer or whatever the fuck else, that is fine with me. By all means, stay away from hookers. But don't pretend like it's not a viable option for attaining sex just because it's something you would never do.

But yea, next time I have a beautiful twenty year old Latina twerking her ass against me as I fuck her from behind, I will make sure to stop and remember that prostitution is not a strategy for sex.

[–]zpatriarchy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

next time I have a beautiful twenty year old Latina twerking her ass against me as I fuck her from behind, I will make sure to stop and remember that prostitution is not a strategy for sex.

why don't you remember that the only thing stopping her from vomitting is the things she will buy with your money.

this is more of a penthouse forum letter. i don't care what kind of sex you want, but this is the red pill, not mgtow. mgtow use whores because they have given up.

stop defending this purchase as a strategy. stop thinking of yourself as a loser. change who you are. don't give up.

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[–]3chazthundergut[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sorry you hate yourself so much for doing it. Maybe you should stop? If I had the feelings you do about it, I would definitely stop doing it and save the money. If you are not happy and experiencing the best out of your life, then what the fuck are you doing with yourself man?

I am proud that I went solo because it took courage. I was nervous about doing it, but I did it anyways, and I had a great time and was glad that I took the chance. I know that most men wouldn't have the balls to do it, regardless of the morality.

Again, this isn't me saying "oh I don't want to bother increasing my SMV so I'll just skip it with my wallet" although I don't see anything wrong with that either. This is about a fat virgin with no options, completely frustrated and fed up, exercising an effective strategy to get laid. It's nothing more than that.

Lastly, I don't think these hoes fancy me now, let alone when I am 50. I understand the situation quite well- I pay them, they fuck me. It's not about me feeling wanted (that would be great, but you cannot buy that). It's about me being able to experience something that I have been otherwise unable to for 27 years.

Again, the choice wasn't between a nice regular girl LTR and hookers. It was between no sex at all and lots of sex with beautiful women.

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