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On cats and dogs - the guitarist...

July 6, 2022
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I saw there's a new trend around here on rehashing old MRA bait posts from the past. The classics, stories of good men that were crushed by female nature and an uncaring society.

Now while that is definitely great for breaking through to newbies that think "red pill" is either the right wing's "woke" or even more ignorant still, thinking it's a 2000s Sci-fi meme, these posts don't really evolve Red Pill understanding. If you're here, and read the side bar, I would assume disparity between women and men in terms of cultural perception and legal treatment isn't new. And for the sake of your soul, I hope you understand men are not women, and will never be women - because society already has women to act as women.

So I though I'd contribute with random insights that helped evolve my understanding of male-female differences and potential ideas on how to take advantage of them. Promise to make these short so you can easily read while on a cig break.

Today's story is that of a guitarist. Gentle soul but awesome player. He got into a band during humanity's sabatical. As you would expect he got female attention while doing gigs and because of his kind nature he got engaged with a pudgy finance major that "wasn't like all the other girls". Fast forward a few months, girl is frustrated boy has been on tour for months making money for their wedding, while she is left doing preparations. Our boy came home yesterday to find his bags packed and broken engagement. Reason: he is selfish. He leaves elegantly and doesn't say a thing and finds a bar while waiting for an out of town friend to pick up his shit. There he meets yours truly and shares his tale.

The thing that struck at my red pill heart was his argument that: "I worked so hard to make money for the wedding she wanted, I passed on countless opportunities to cheat, the whole reason why I proposed was to make her happy, and still I am selfish?"

Yes, yes you are buddy. Because the truth is - she wanted the life with the artist on stage in front of crowds. She didn't want to wage slave, the struggling artist. She wanted the life of being top groupie, the one that satiated the rock start, not the guy that thinks of her as the only one. She and women - want the life they imagine having with you. THEY DO NOT WANT YOU - the person. When women say you are selfish they mean you baited them with glimpses of an awesome life, and now you're bringing it down with problems and struggles.

Yes, it's dumb. But try understanding - women feel, therefor they believe it's true. Men think in terms of systems. Being a rocker isn't just performing on stage, it's work, sweat, tours, weeks on busses and vans. It's a process. FOr women, being with a rocker is parties, female competition (the overcome obv) and exciting nights of back room sweaty grimmy sex in between sets. The process - does not make them feel like the girl of a Rockstar. The actions you take to become great - do not make the woman feel like she is living the great life she hoped for.

Learning - advice, call it whatever: Never promise, never make an effort - you do your own thing, and at each stage there will be women that fantasize about being with you at that point in your life. When the reality sinks in that they were just projecting... Let them leave with a smile. It was just their turn.

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Title On cats and dogs - the guitarist...
Author zino193
Upvotes 61
Comments 29
Date July 6, 2022 7:57 AM UTC (4 months ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–]sussykeke 22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm kinda gonna glide over your original point in order to elevate a secondary, completely different piece of advice that arises from your story (that you might've not intended for):

There's a pareto principle of hobbies in regards to how attractive they are. There's hobbies and things to spend time on that are *sexy* and then there's the rest that are not.

When you've got an autistic obsession with trains, it doesn't matter than you know everything about the history of trains in the US from 1827 onward, that you know the model name of every rolling stock AMTRAK uses and that you could maybe even fix one up if the pantograph got disconnected.

While all of this might make you one hell of a train engineer, at a party, you're gonna lose out to the guy who can play the guitar, and he doesn't even have to be insanely good, like you are with whatever your hobby is. Girls might act impressed with your knowledge if they already somewhat like you, but having a sexy hobby can help you cultivate attraction.

Other examples of sexy hobbies (some of which aren't exactly hobbies) include: Playing in a band, Muay Thai or just regular boxing, having tattoos or even better - being a tattoo artist, dealing drugs, being social media famous or being famous in general, being a pilot (knew a friend who was a pilot, ugly as shit, girls were all over him as soon as he pulled out his phone and started showing photos from the cockpit).

[–]1zino193[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No problem man, it's just the internet.

Not familiar with that pareto principle. In my experience "sexy" at a profound level means being of influence over the world. A man's power, strenght, money, looks... They influence effortlessly the world. Those hobbies, apart from the train one... influence the world and others - leave marks even if you think about it.

I would say that when your knowledge and passion for engineering reaches a point where your influence is undeniable, engies become sexy. After some SpaceX launch I hear quite a few women, women that had nothing to do with science talk about how sexy rocket scientists are. And they were saying it excited, like their fantasy found a new fruit.

[–]sussykeke 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You might be onto something with the influence thing. But always be on the lookout for what girls do, who they actually fuck as opposed to who they say is sexy.

[–]1zino193[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say these women went out the next day with the QA engineer. I said that the impact of the work of THOSE engineers' made them notice them.

Hence it's about influence. As I mentioned in this thread before. You can be a cucked senator that lavishes your woman, or a senator that lives a life of power and just lets the woman tag along, or the OP. It is not the man, the job, the wealth, the max bench, it is the life of the man that has those, that women want.

[–]RedditSlayer2020 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Thank you sir I just found out that I don't have any sexy hobbies. I love internet infrastructure design. I love deep philosophical conversations, I pursue minimalism, anti-consumerism. I love logic.

[–]sussykeke 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

At least you can get that CISCO money. No but for real, notice how all your hobbies have to do with thinking and being deep inside your head instead of doing something in the physical world. Maybe changing it up a little and exploring that physical side of the world would be a nice change for you personally as well.

[–]RedditSlayer2020 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I love cooking and celebrate eating too. Wow I guess a sexy hobby

You are right with the head action it's disproportionate

[–]RedditSlayer2020 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the harsh truth.

I once had a girl that pursued the 4 pillars of love with me: marriage, real estate, car, baby. I didn't make an effort to provide any of that so she left me.

I provided for her for 5 years (she didn't had to work the first 4 years) but apparently it wasn't enough. She didn't love me, she loved the idea of a lavish life with the 4 things mentioned before.

[–]prettyawsm 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahh this is a good point. Thanks for sharing too.

[–]videogames_ 17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Your post and story can be summed up as women want to be with a winner that is on top. He stayed on tour too long and the frame became starving artist working too hard and being too distant.

This is the same reason why you cannot ever show vulnerability with women including your significant other. Human nature is ruthless and women need men to be masculine. If you need to rant and cry find a close male friend or if you’re lucky a close family member. Show high value by having talent and then making it seem as effortless as possible. The guy in the story made it seem like too much effort but he probably dodged a bullet anyways.

[–]RedditSlayer2020 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

For me it's simply to annoying to hold frame for a woman, I'd rather be alone.

[–]2319Skew 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Instead of saying that you need to pack your stuff and drive in the morning to the gym, switch it to this will be some nice quiet time for me.

Instead of focusing on how sore you are and how long it takes, focus on how your getting stronger and challenge yourself to have fun with it. Bring a friend. Make it a competitive game.

Instead of trying to play the role and "hold frame" try to change aspects of your character that causes you to lose frame.

If you don't want to because you enjoy the quiet solitary life then power to you, but if you find this action as a cope because "it's too much work" or it's "hard" then you're still holding onto that blue pill fantasy.

You still need to change your mindset.

[–]RedditSlayer2020 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I chose the quiet solitary life instead. I like the way I am so to appeal to the female mindset and trigger her subconscious tingles I have to push certain buttons and behave in a certain way that for me would be like acting/role playing.

I never dived into the philosophical side of red pill much but is there like a natural state of mind that you can reach through training that makes interaction with women effortless and also changed your mindset to the better for yourself?

I know that mrditation helps on your path to enlightenment if you chose to pursue that.

I despise the opportunistic mindset of women. Beside pussy they don't bring anything to the table that is appealing to me.

[–]ChrissyCash1980s 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cringe. Imagine chanjng your frame for a whore

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe on top - the guy was a stand in guitarist.

It's not about money - it's about lifestyle. But yes, once the fantasy was clearly not happening for her... She checked out of the relationship.

[–]Amund_Jaeger 25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The things you vs who you are.

I had a plate who, after only seeing me for a couple of weeks, said that she loved me because of how I made her feel, because she was so comfortable around me.

Well, she barely knew anything about me, so she could not love me. She fell in love of the idea of me and how I made her feel. I barely showed up, her hamster did the rest.

Women don’t like YOU, they like the IDEA of you and the THINGS that (she thinks) you are. Things like that you are tall, good looking, dominant, ripped, pre-selected etc.

Understanding this will help any man in here: - They don’t give a fuck about YOU and what you think you are.

[–]1zino193[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spot on - up to the "think you are". Although I think you meant it for guys that think they are good people that deserve a woman.

I would say that "Who you think you are" is the source of what "the idea of you" is. This is why women get douped by confident men so easily or why absolute messes get models. Until she sees you fail, the best thing she can use to inform what her life with you is - is your frame, how much shit you put up with and how clear you are with regard to your place in the world.

[–]RedditSlayer2020 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Another one:

Women don't love you, they love what you do for them.

I'm sure get banned for saying this here on other subreddits for misogynism when they check my comment history.

[–]AreOut 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

THEY DO NOT WANT YOU - the person.

we should write this on the mirror so we could remind ourselves of it every day

[–]Rjw12141214 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

TLDR women don’t actually want to be happy they want to be entertained

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

See what happens if you TLDR...

This can be misunderstood as being a woman pleaser. While if you are a female entertainer - then you suck at being a cool rocker boy, a powerful senator or a rich dentist.

[–]Rjw12141214 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Everything you listed excites and entertains women but doesn’t necessarily make them happy so I believe my tldr stands my good sir. You can entertain a woman without being a soy boy circus act.

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If that's what you mean by entertain - being part of a senator's life vs having a senator husband that lavishes you, but is essentially a pushover. Then sure, we agree.

[–]modTheRedPike 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You had me there. I once removed a post titled "What I learned about women from my female cat." Yes, really. Nope, not kidding. Thankfully this isn't that post...

[–]1zino193[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, as long as the point of the post is for men to grow up, why not learn from a cat, can't be worse than a online marketer.

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[–]ManHasJam 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]R_O_Brother 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol can't fault my man's logic

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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