On Censorship and Some News on our New Platforms

January 13, 2021
215 upvotes

As you've likely seen in the news, censorship on the internet is in full force and effect right now. It's happening far faster and worse than I predicted just a few months ago. Currently it appears to be happening along USA party lines but don't be fooled about feeling safe.

The Trump era and the populist movement that occurred in the past 4-5 years is most likely the only thing that got the targets off the back of men and masculine issues.

You see, once upon a time, TRP was the boogeyman of reddit. We were the big bad guys looking to free men and exchange ideas without oversight. And that was really fucking scary to the powers that be. But with the rise of the donald subreddit, we were temporarily shielded by something even more dangerous to the powerful.

Well, as it appears the entire system has now activated to rid the nation of Trump and co, there's only one place the system can focus its sights back onto. And that is, once again, men. It should scare you how coordinated the efforts were. Left, Right, Center, all politicians came together to damage actual conservatives. Domain Registrars, hosting platforms, social media- youtube, twitter, facebook, discord, etc, google play, apple app store, they all colluded to remove an element from the internet they do not like.

And now that we no longer have this shield, I believe it is a matter of time before the fight comes back to our doorstep.

During the shitstorm, the biggest competitor to reddit also shut its doors (voat). This is something I was aware might happen- but it's also the reason why I was (and still am) ardently against our subreddit simply trading one boss for another platform. We are not safe unless we take matters into our own hands.

If you've been here for any length of time, then you know we've been hard at work on our trp.red and forums.red platforms. Part of the difficulty for us was negotiating with vendors ahead of time to find pro-free-speech vendors and locking in deals that should prevent the same shuttering that's affecting so many other platforms right now. It's not the cheapest hosting, but it is (imo) the safest at the moment.

A lot of what I've been doing has been out of pocket. The entire development of the platform, scaling the services to handle tens of millions of monthly hits, and keeping it maintained has been an expensive but necessary project for me.

To keep men communicating is my passion. I do not do this for thanks or cash. I do this for one reason: because having a safe place for men to communicate is the most important value I have and without it I believe the world loses something great.

Our Patreon and Bitcoin donations: 1Hyyva2G5aCJwNqYToGoCCGATVNMB81zk7 have greatly helped in our monthly costs, and for that I am very appreciative. Currently we are not covering the monthly costs but it does take a chip out which helps me.

I am not writing this to beg for donations, but instead I have decided to announce my next initiative.

Due to the rest of the internet going woke it is my opinion that we are not safe as long as we rely on any woke company for our communication.

The Fraternity's discord server has already been banned once, they are on borrowed time. Joe's youtube channel is behind enemy lines, and they've just committed to banning hundreds of thousands of videos and thousands of channels. Regardless of your view on politics, it is now a known truth that if you listen to a podcast on youtube, the members and videos that remain only do so through a form of self-censorship for an ever-changing rulebook.

This ever encroaching censorship on all platforms is unsustainable. We either continue letting big tech shut us down at every turn, or we act proactively.

I propose an initiative to move podcasting and video directly under trp.red's umbrella to protect the speech of men, and to protect the history of speech for all to see in the event that youtube goes dark for our movement.

This isn't to say that we shouldn't still use these platforms for outreach. New ideas can reach new people outside our walled garden. But relying on these platforms is foolhardy knowing what we know now.

As a proof of concept, I have already invested some time in spinning up a peertube instance as a basis for a video platform ( https://video.trp.red/ ). It's not open to registration yet, and there is only one test video, but it gives you an idea of what we can work with. My intention is to integrate user accounts with trp.

My first goal is to backlog the entire TRP official youtube channel onto our platform: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmkSUIOMkwiLiQEhzcZS4wg

Afterwards, we will start accepting applications for uploaders. This platform will be tightly regulated to prevent liability issues / copyright issues. However, anybody with a red pill adjacent idea should have no trouble securing an upload account.

However, these goals will cost real money. This backlog is large and the undertaking will not be free.

I think it's an immeasurable good for the community, but I will not be able to do this one alone.

If this is something you think would bring value to our community, please consider voicing your support here and consider donating to our cause:

Patreon | Bitcoin donations: 1Hyyva2G5aCJwNqYToGoCCGATVNMB81zk7


Edit: Feel free to comment on the video hosting platform idea rather than bickering about trump...

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Title On Censorship and Some News on our New Platforms
Author redpillschool
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Date January 13, 2021 3:02 PM UTC (4 months ago)
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[–]Modredpillschool[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (4 children) | Copy Link

Feel free to comment on the video hosting platform idea rather than bickering about trump...

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike32 points33 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

You've brought up some interesting questions around censorship, controversy, and community. I'm going to speak to a few of these things that relate very directly to what u/realjoedee and I have been working on for the past year that you named directly: Discord and YouTube.

There's simply no substitute for the amount of reach that those two platforms have.

There's no question that these two platforms bring in a ton of new eyeballs from outside of Reddit. The combination of the two has created a far higher caliber of community and conversation than r/theredpill. That's thanks in large part to our incredible mod team - u/realjoedee, u/itiswr1tten, DTC, Fuckall, and the rest of the mods - who have put in a ton of time and effort into building a very valuable community for men, by men. We have backups in place for Discord and YouTube, so The Fraternity and Red Pill University aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

To your point about self-censorship, and speaking strictly for myself, I'll stand by the things I've said on YouTube. Authenticity generally resonates better than people that pander to the mainstream, but it just so happens that I'm a more moderate guy and and that seems to draw less controversy. I have no interest in censoring myself or walking on eggshells just to avoid the powers that be at YouTube, and the chips will fall where they may. If that means we get de-platformed or de-monetized then I guess we'll lose out on the $25 a month that we're bringing in right now.

Don't get me wrong. TRP.red is awesome, and I see the need for it. I'm all for participating there.

I'm just not so sure that TRP "going underground" and moving away from the mainstream to our own "walled garden" is the best move, or the only move. If anything, you've stressed how much you believe the red pill ideas should be in the mainstream. If you strip out the jargon, most of the things Joe and I talk about on YouTube resonate with the average guy. There are advantages to being in the mainstream, and if you're savvy about it there's no such thing as bad press.

Maybe I'm out of touch here, but I think most of the things we talk about on TRP aren't exactly highly controversial. We can talk about hypergamy and the feminine imperative all we want, but in practice it comes down to this: go lift weights, don't be needy, learn self-mastery and leadership, and find a woman who is hot and not annoying. That's the big scary red pill secret, and if lifting weights and not tolerating bullshit makes me a misogynist I'll have to accept the consequences.

Having said all that, I guess for me your post brings up more questions than answers.

Should the red pill be mainstream or not?

Is bringing in new (and more) guys really the goal here?

Is it better to be centralized around a single platform, or federated amongst many?

Is our message forbidden fruit, or is it common sense once you know the rules of the game?

If we don't answer these questions, we're all just going to be running around in a million directions.

[–]Redpiller7711 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

The answer is simple, decentralize and make trp.red the main page, and use Discord/Youtube/Twitter as a type of "normie trap". There is no reason to go hardcore about the topics that really matter in mainstream places. Those places should be what TRP has become, stupid lists for spergs on how to be alpha. But from there people who really are interested in this stuff will gravitate to the real actual shit.

Idk though, just giving out my thoughts on how to avoid bans and continue reaching people /u/redpillschool

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's my thought- my goal wasn't to take the red pill channel off youtube- only to have a safe place to subscribe to for people who find it on youtube.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Comedians are getting millions of views, unmolested that are way edgier than what people here are spouting.

I have a hard time believing guys like Ryan Long can put out a skit on CDC regulations say the governor gets to bang your wife and somehow guys getting the dick wet and realizing that the same skills that get him laid also give him the charisma to get him success will be the boogeyman.

It's idiots like roosh who try to use RP to answer the JQ, Roissy who decided mudsharking was the biggest issue among americans, or other nonsense that guys with too little time IRL come up with to maintain their identity of 'muse of forbidden knowledge for men'

To put it in news cycle terms. If you don't video tape you going into the capital building and stealing a podium, chances are you won't get arrested. We just aren't that important and the outrage media cycle is a lot more sophisticated than it was in 2014.

[–]RedUncleCad1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

may not get arrested but you can lose your livlihood

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Everyone can. One can sit here and worry about HR and ME TOO, censorship and online mobs or politics and purges all day. Worry about a girl leaving with divorce rape and sperm jacking you and globalism ruining the middle class and every other risk that comes with living a life better than being a fitness coach at planet fitness our whole lives

But I'd rather approach it as a risk to be mitigated then worry about it if it happens. Maybe swap some notes about what we are doing, did, and how it played out.

I mean, what good with this place be to anyone if it was constant fear mongering about all the dangers in the world instead of actually navigating the world with a positive male identity?

You know, the placard at the top of this subreddit?

And I'm not trying to he snarky here. How does it do a poor bastard any good when he comes in here because he can't get laid, his wife doesn't like him, he didn't have a dad to help him get started or he just wants to get laid so he can focus on ANYTHING else.

It annoys the hell out of me. Whether it's an income stream or a hobby, people in here asking for a counsel of elders, completely missing the fucking point.

Instead of learning to he their own mental point of origin they are desperate to find a new demagogue to follow, dad 2.0

Fuck, when people did that with Peterson we used to bait and purge them from the fucking place. All of a sudden it's cool as long as he has a flair?

I know this is a bit of a rant but fuck, most guys are talking about women in the abstract, and that should give anyone in here pause. This is simply the economic and political version of the same mental masturbation that mystery, or RSD or Roosh had back in the day. Rember when being aloof and trusting in these tools to overcome problems was the MO?

The more things change the more they stay the same

[–]RedUncleCad0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not saying I am worried. Saying I am rightfully cautious. There are few uncensored places where men can share this type of info

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True and we balkanized our own space worse than any SJW ever could. Our resident Jester plastered Austrian painter memes from the 40s around here until every faired content creator left and declared himself kind of the RP. It was supposed to be some feminist cunt who did that.

I don't think they are our enemy, I think shit-tier men are. And because of that we now have 5 platforms spread out over the internet doing private and discreet unfiltered conversations. If anything, it would have been better if it was some censorship fem enemy. Guys can rally around an enemy and would stick together much better.

Being cautious and having a risk management strategy is good, just don't forget who is a threat to your want for content on positive masculinity. Guys like Cernovich and the afformentionned jester have caused more damage than the Daily Beast did when doxxing Mr. Fisher ever could

[–]StarchRunner0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

We just aren't that important and the outrage media cycle is a lot more sophisticated than it was in 2014.

Lol, I think it’s dumber than ever. As are the stupid outrage crowds that follow this shit.

Go to any mainstream sub on reddit, not only hyper-leftists, but ones arguing against reality. Like politicalhumor now, arguing not if cancelculture is good or bad but whether it exists! They have people listing examples while simultaneously denying anything.

A lot of that crowd hate the free speech that puts up with their inanity, and they’ll fully embrace the next round of tyrants that will take away their rights and shoot them as useful idiots.

They’re supposedly atheists but deep down want religion, original sin, clerics who tell them what to think and do and all that, but they’ll just give it different names.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mainstream

Reddit

Pick one.

[–]Keith_Valentine6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

honestly imho it is time for y'all to hold a summit , Lord of the Rings style. The message has become so diluted and the leadership seems quite fractured so that new people i see here dont even agree on what TRP is. People spam 'read the sidebar' but maybe 1/20 actually do that judging by the stupid posts and threads here. It rarely helps or accomplishes anything.

Theres also so many factions. Dark triads who wana watch the world burn and selfishly reap the gains. MGTOW who may or may not hate women. Blue pill rejects who limp in here after they get divorce raped or walk in on their unicorn riding their best friend. Etc etc . the only real consistent message is lifting weights and physical fitness which predates TRP by decades. Even as a 3+ year rp noob i look at the current trend where.. in some help thread there will be a bunch of assholes attacking the guy by calling him a beta billy or queer. I actually saw a guy say a RP example was just some dude bragging about having sex , and it had 70 upvotes. I was so surprised. Frequently when a tag makes posts and threads some bitches come out of the woodwork to try to argue and fight for 5 cents worth of rp clout. Its fuckin cringe and im highly resistant to cringe.

*yours is a good post btw asking the right questions imo

[–]RealJoeDee2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

A red pill summit of the various leaders in the manosphere to meet and build a framework for interoperability would be nice.

[–]Keith_Valentine2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It would be great content as well, possibly epic. The scene is a clusterfuck. Smalltime gaming youtubers have snatched the format and get 200k - 1 million+ views dissing IG thots to youngsters while they play Call of Duty. Theyre making bank and its just redpills for teenagers. They dont know who the fuck Paul Elam , Rollo Tomassi , Rich Cooper (insert rp og) even are but the interest is there.

These young guys are seeing firsthand how some women act , their sisters may have OnlyFans and simps and they are virgins who get shit sandwiches. Their dads got divorced , they dont know who to look upto , I could do this shit all day. It is extremely fertile soil and i cant remember the last time a thread on this sub got 1k upvotes. That aint nothin. Did you see that Bartender pt 2 thread for example? Shit like that is a fucking embarassment to this sub.

[–]RealJoeDee0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a format I want to try for a while as well.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree

[–]StarchRunner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

MGTOW who may or may not hate women.

Most mgtows hate the system. Their individual opinions on women is really quite irrelevant as to why the system mocks them so.

[–]__fulpp__1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We're dependent on mainstream platforms for visibility, and we have free speech guarantees for TRP.RED. I don't see why we can't stay just on the right side of the line on mainstream platforms, then link back to TRP.RED for the stuff we're not allowed to talk about.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's my thought- my goal wasn't to take the red pill channel off youtube- only to have a safe place to subscribe to for people who find it on youtube.

[–]skuttt22 points23 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Are there plans for when the domain registrar and cloud provider ban us too?

We may need to look into more decentralized technologies.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 26 points27 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

We have negotiated free speech terms with our providers and registrar.

For the record, the registrar has a pretty good track record.

[–]Darkbrother7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Unless the hardware is actually owned, the same thing that happened to Parler will eventually happen to whatever gets set up...

[–]jd2fresh2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would recommend looking into offshore hosting. Maybe offshorededicated.net

*edit - For registrar use njal.la

Created by the founders of thepiratebay

[–]botet_fotet2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Gab has its own servers or is at least separate from AWS

[–]FieryDuckling670 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Make the site available through alternative DNS eg the Ethereum Naming System. That way your domain can never be held hostage and you can freely change webserver host (or decentralise that too with IPFS/Siasky/etc).

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the idea. I was actually thinking it would be cool for a free speech alt dns / registrar to pop up and start converting the internet to www2.

[–]niceguyputin22 points23 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Please use locals.com over patreon. Also please use odysee.com (blockchain) over YouTube. Take your time but still, we need to fight back against the monopoly.

[–]Rock_Granite8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Please use locals.com over patreon

Amen. Patreon is one of the most SJW places. I'm shocked that they haven't kicked u/redpillschool out yet.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to check out locals. I'm not on patreon by choice it's just that we literally can't even get money out of subscribestar

[–]Yharnam_Queen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would blockchain-based youtube be better?

[–]anonymouscausefuckU5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep in mind though, that it is extremely important for us to maintain a presence on mainstream platforms such as this and YouTube. Censoring famous people like trump is relatively easy. Millions of anonymous or semi-anonymous randos? Basically impossible.

The worst thing we can do in a time like this is to hide. It’s more important now than ever that the world knows about us. You’d be amazed the amount of people in your daily life who are red pilled but closeted. It’s like cocaine in a bar, lots of people are doing it, yet they’re all being secretive about it. We need to make our presence known. Don’t stay silent. Keep doing what you do. And remember that in the end it’s US who will he on the right side of history.

[–]sowhattwenty2081 points82 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

I believe the red pill should remain as apolitical and amoral as possible. It is based on understanding hypergamy, female nature and intersexual dynamics. However, I think having a backup platform is a great idea. In my view, the more we can stay out of the rabbit hole of political ideology the better.

[–]Endorsed Contributoritiswr1tten33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to think this way regarding politics, but ultimately if you believe the core tenets of TRP - you are directly (expressing) or indirectly (receiver of political action) participating in a political stance. If your livelihood is at stake for expressing a viewpoint that there are biological differences in men and women, you and those beliefs are in the political sphere.

I am still strictly amoral.

[–]Redpiller7719 points20 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

If you're individualist and pro-male you're automatically right whether you actually are or even want to be. You can disagree with everything else of the right and they will still ban you for this stance alone.

[–]sowhattwenty202 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Maybe that's the common social assumption. Call me cynical, but I think most real "bans" of forums/content anywhere come down to what's "bad for business." If this forum is perceived as a threat to ad revenue, valuable data mining, etc., that's when the hammer is most likely to drop. Follow the money.

[–]Redpiller776 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You were saying that TRP should not be political, I'm just saying that just by its nature alone it will be perceived as that whether you like it or not.

TRP is quarantined, how much money it generates? You're right that as long as it doesn't threat ad money they might not mess with it, but you're only looking at it from an economic perspective. Why do you think Twitter still exists if it operates at a loss? I don't think the executives at all this social media websites are dumb enough to not realize that they can basically control public discourse. I don't think that they wouldn't ban anything just because it threatens their agendas.

[–]RedKingRising1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP isn't political. The people who came here over the years brought their politics to TRP. I saw the writing on the wall with Roissy. He pandered to the disgruntled white male demographic and they ate it up. I knew right then that it was doomed. I'm not a white male or a conservative and I see the value in TRP. I don't associate with it in any way in real life because the base has dragged TRP into the manosphere and the manosphere and even the term redpill has been dragged into right wing politics. Yall made this bed and now yall gotta lie in it.

I'm in the 'TRP is a tool box' and the 'you find TRP, TRP doesn't find you" camp. You can't wake people up from the matrix. If more people in the mainstream become redpilled (god i hate even using that term now as it's been cooped by right wingers and treasonous fucks), then TRP will cease to be necessary in the same way feminism is no longer necessary. As the maxium goes...

Law 47: Do not go past the mark you aimed for; in victory know when to stop

Feminism didn't know when to stop and we see what it has become. TRP has to know when to stop. Sacred knowledge is not something that is shared and promoted to the masses, it's sought out by those who are ready for it.

[–]bruh_what_the_f6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes follow the money, what is money -> a representation of power, what is power -> a force, what is a force? a force is something that changes something either intentionally or unintentionally.

You can say it's about the money but even places like Wikipedia do it, it's about something much more fundamental than paper, it's the reason paper exists as a transitive representation of power at all.

[–]thenonwamen1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

if your talking about midsize social media like reddit then yes but Twitter and youtube has so much money and power they could legitimately effect what is the popular oppinion, theyre is more money in that then the amount of money we give them through ads.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree wholeheartedly with you. I an very pro-male and outspoken about it. I have plenty of longtime female friends that know this and I have asked them if it bothers them that i've somewhat Machista.

Flat out no, because I'm not out there disrespecting women that do not deserve.

Im not out destroying the sweet ones out there, I'm there destroying the seasoned bitches and putting them in their place.

You can make it political if you want, but human beings have long been playing this game before anyone decided to label it.

[–]Kowinsky_NotNice12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

"dont wanna get political too much" i understand that but its not even speculations or some kind of opinion, its really obvious of what they are trying to do, and is insane, i think everyone would agree.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That’s the thing. Everyone would not agree.

[–]d3g4d010 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I'm one of the folks who don't agree and I've been here half of a decade. Political discussion really has no place here. It's honestly annoying as fuck. There I said it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah exactly. I don't agree. Stop making it political.

Keep it simple, sexual strategies for getting some pussy. We're not inciting violence, we're helping other bro's get laid.

Stop crying about censorship within private companies.

[–]DareyFathom9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

First, I don't think it's possible to be apolitical in 2021. Politics are massively polarizing and an undeniable part of an individual's identity. Secondly, while I acknowledge this subreddit is focused on sexual strategies, that is a corollary effect to the broader societal causes. Ignoring the source and focusing on the symptoms is ass backwards to problem solving.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

undeniable part of an individual's identity.

The whole fucking point of this place is to develop an identity based on a positive masculinity, and not to latch onto some branding and political tribalism that everyone else is demanding men do.

If you don't think that's important, ask yourself if any of those guys arrested in DC will be getting a pardon from their 'identity leader'

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is the only RP community I know that even pretends politics don't play a major role in society. It's also by far the most liberal. Perhaps that is Reddit's influence. It's DELUSIONAL to believe there will be a laissez-faire approach to RP practices if the libtards win. Your sexual strategy mandated by the government will be getting pegged by a self-harming tranny when those lunatics have their way.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Look, there are dudes on both sides of the spectrum. Our goal was to discuss sexual strategy, not abortion.

But a majority of the top contributors here are conservative, it's pretty obvious.

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a textbook example of missing the forest for the trees. Most here will be conservative because RP is entirely incompatible with modern liberalism. Eventually the Orwellians WILL be coming for you and any independent minded man. And then sexual strategies will be the least of our concerns.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A great example is how the political world forcibly inserted itself into men's lives this year and locked down restaurants, bars, clubs, and dating.

You can ignore politics but politics isn't going to ignore you.

[–]sowhattwenty201 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good to see my post generating discussion. I would add that aware that intersexual dynamics to not occur in a vacuum, and politics both influence and are influenced by these dynamics.

I believe we live (at least in most of the West to varying degrees) in a gynocentric social order. One only needs to look at the family court system (largely a political construction) in most places for many examples of how the deck is stacked against men.

I just find that aiming to steer discussions out of political and moral waters leads to more useful education, especially for men who are still blue pilled and trying to digest all of the harsh reality of the red pill.

[–]bruh_what_the_f0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're absolutely right in a sense, but wrong in another.

You cannot convince someone who actively takes the bluepill that the red pill is bliss, it was never touted to be (just look at things like religion and how popular it is compared to its alternative).

However, as a crucial integral piece of the puzzle, you must inevitably (and will shortly thereafter) understand how politics isn't some scary word but simply rather an ideology for life, and how the moment you've taken the red pill you've fundamentally shifted your own ideology.

Which if you follow logic (which ultimately is critical for the redpill) then you must acknowledge the truth when there's overwhelming empirical/anecdotal evidence.

[–]kyle_fall2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is this really possible though? We've now clearly seen how sexual strategy and mating patterns are deeply affected by different political ideologies. Seems like it's all connected and whatever happens out there affects here too.

[–]bryoneill114 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Then you will never understand the root of the problem, wont help men, boys and children, and you are helping the opposition to complete their mission of wiping you out of existence. In fact, this approach you are proposing is why it went so bad in the first place.

[–]DareyFathom5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why this is being downvoted. It's entirely correct. Ignoring the underlying causes will just allow the issues to exacerbate.

[–]bruh_what_the_f-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Seems like a moral justification for using logic instead of using logic as a justification.

"Why can't we all just get along"

[–]DareyFathom2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

We can't just get along because we have irreconcilable differences. Like a bad married couple that SHOULD be going through a divorce. What conservatives and liberals want for the country are diametrically opposed.

[–]bruh_what_the_f0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The whole point to what i said is that someone saying "Why can't we all just get along" is childish and fails because it fails to acknowledge the core aspect of exactly as you explained, that is -- Why do conflicts arise, to begin with?

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In this case, conflicts will continue. There will be no "healing." Nothing is coming together in unity. 90+% of Americans are lemmings that will do nothing in real conflict except appease whoever applies force. However, it doesn't even take 10% of a population for a successful revolution (Army counter insurgency manuals always called for min. of 3% of the population to be actively engaged for a successful insurgency). Definitely think we could get to that threshold.

[–]RedKingRising0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no what fascists and conservatives want for the country is diametrically opposed. Fascists want an orange god king. Conservatives want the status quo. Democracts want the status quo. Progressives want systemic change.

[–]Quo2100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

nothing is apolitical because everything exists within a society

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no censorship on TRP.RED. You might ask GLO why he deleted his own tribe, but don't you dare come on here spreading false information. Commie

[–]ThrowawayOgleks46 points47 points  (40 children) | Copy Link

Idk I'm RP but I hate Trump and his band of spergs that stormed the Capitol last week.

Only thing Trump was useful for was that Trumptards took the spotlight away from TRP. Now they will come for TRP.

[–]1arakouzo66 points67 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Trump was an interesting phenomenon that really never should have been. The entire Trump presidency was 99% hype.

If you ask the left, Trump was supposed to be the next Hitler. He was supposedly going to roll women's rights back to the dark ages, round up and deport every single person who speaks Spanish, burn down every inner city black neighborhood, make it illegal to be gay or trans, start world war 3 with nukes, and turn the US into some kind of nazi ultra-nationalist white supremacist paradise.

He never did any of that. In fact, he really didn't do all that much and had a pretty ineffectual presidency. All he did was act like an asshole and say stupid shit all the time. The real Donald Trump was kind of a do-nothing president. But the IDEA of Trump, the hype, inflamed the left. The idea that "that man" could become president and so many people voted for him made people feel like their world was falling apart, they were living under a dark cloud, and they couldn't breathe. The reality was that Trump was kind of just a rich asshole who said stupid shit. But the idea of Trump petrified the left.

Meanwhile, the right thought Trump was practically the messiah. They thought they had finally found a strait-shooting, strait-talking outsider who wasn't part of the career politician deep-state system that was going to save everybody from the evil Jewish illuminati child raping satan worshipping left. Even the less radical right were very enamored with Mr. "he's my president!" and felt connected to this extremely rich businessman asshole who they thought somehow would serve their interests. The reality was that Trump was just some asshole who said stupid shit all the time. But the IDEA of Trump as this savior fueled the right.

The entire past four years has been about this idea of a man and how terrible or great the idea is, when the reality was he was just some asshole who said stupid shit all the time.

[–]generic_commenter998 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This times a billion. I hate when either side tries to intellectualize him. It's as if they haven't watch one goddamn second of the news in the last 5 years. The man cares about one singular thing: assuaging and stroking his own ego. That's it. That is the ONLY thing he cares about. I'm not a doctor or diagnosing him but I'm like 95% sure he has a pathological narcissistic personality disorder.

[–]dartyszn411 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure if you follow basketball but this is an accurate depiction of how the Ball Family rose to fame and prominence in the basketball circuit. Social media hype, creating Big Baller Brand (BBB) and making ridiculous claims.

[–]andAutomator3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a fantastic description.

[–]d3g4d03 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone who disagrees is on a side which is hilarious. Actually thinking republicans or democrats give a fuck about you is absolutely hilarious. Funniest shit I've ever heard. There are only the haves and the have nots.

[–]Pelon014 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, he did as much as he could given that there are restrictions on his power. His totally inept at legislative deal making.

[–]RedKingRising0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

inflamed the left.

But his nazi troops stormed the capitol. GTFO.

[–]1arakouzo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. This old rich asshole who spent 4 years doing nothing much and saying stupid shit publicly has a cult-like following who think he's practically the messiah.

He's sitting at home eating popcorn watching people break windows and wave guns around in his name.

He's just some asshole who says stupid shit. But the IDEA of Trump drives the radicals forward, same way the mere idea of Trump has kept the left feeling like they're living under a cloud for four years even though Trump hasn't really done much.

[–]Guybrush_Threepweed23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You don’t have to like him or that type of politics to see the writing on the wall for anything that doesn’t align with the social justice push.

[–]DareyFathom11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Anyone that doesn't push Orwellian policies is more acceptable than a politician that does. Unfortunately, nearly the entire Democratic party is at that stage and it'll only get worse from here.

[–]DareyFathom14 points15 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I didn't really like Trump either. Though I am very conservative and generally approved of his policies. As an individual he is far too unprofessional and ego-driven for me to respect. I still much prefer him over most anyone from the Domestic Terrorist Party.

[–]Herdsengineers2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Very close to my own thoughts. I didn't like him personally, but he was a better advocate for my values overall though than Hillary or Biden.

I keep telling people - vote based on values in the general election, even if you don't like the candidate closest to your values. Vote for the best person in your view in the primaries, though. If conservatives didn't like Trump or were turned off by him, they could have found someone to challenge Trump for the nomination and voted that guy into the nomination in the primaries instead.

[–]DareyFathom1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Universal suffrage is the worst policy in western civilization. Most of our problems would be solved if voting control measures such as naturalized immigrants must meet. You and I vote on policy as the founding fathers intended the electorate to vote on. Many Americans do not.

[–]Herdsengineers1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Totally agree. I think only those that either pay taxes or are true public servants (military, cops, firemen, etc.) should have voting rights. Anyone pulling in the earned income tax credit should be barred. The contributors are being out voted by the non-contributors.

[–]RedKingRising0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

America has had a great track record with determining who cna vote and who can't. somehow it seems that women and minorities get disenfranchised. Everyone knows what you mean when you call for an end to universal suffrage. You're calling for only white men to be able to vote in America. We all know that dog whistle.

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

The dog whistle for personal accountability. I know that's a triggering concept and rayciss/saxciss to the degenerates that want every freebie without making any investment. After all, all the best systems operate on inconsequential decision making. What could go wrong?

[–]RedKingRising0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do all those buzzwords make you feel smarter young man?

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you had a fully functioning brain you'd know that someone as unprofessional as Trump would never get elected without universal suffrage. That also means most libtard handouts won't pass either.

[–]RedKingRising0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is english your first language? That was almost good! Keep practicing!

[–]generic_commenter992 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He wasn't the one pushing those policies. He doesn't give two shits about policy. He offloads a lot of stuff he doesn't care about onto other people in his admin.

[–]DareyFathom1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IDGAF what his personal policies are. Every President delegates and the OUTCOME is all anyone should care about. His policies helped stave off the Orwellians. That is the important factor that matters. Many Democrats now are openly Orwellian policy makers that oppose the US Constitution.

[–]RedKingRising-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Only domestic terrorists are the ones invading congress. Stop projecting and really look at actions, not words of your party. Don't simp for the GOP.

[–]DareyFathom0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Any consistent standard would identity any of the Antifa, BLM, and those that invaded congress as domestic terrorists. But of course MSM lemmings such as yourself selectively target some groups and willing encourage others based on your political preferences rather than any logical consistency.

[–]RedKingRising-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They didn't. There was only trump supporters invading congress on Jan 6th and you know it. The cognitive dissonance is eating you guys alive. Republicans are traitors to the republic. Eat it. Swallow that pill.

[–]darkstar10317 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Hate is too strong a word really. I'm indifferent to Trump. He's weak, unintelligent, and spends far too much time bitching instead of doing. He's not a doer. He doesn't really do things. He bitches and moans like a fat suburbanite Karen. He's a terrible businessman, and a failure in every aspect of his life. Even his mail-order bride is disgusted by him, and he has to pay money for any affection he gets.

To my eyes, he's the ultimate beta bitch. All that coke he did while he was riding high on his father's dime in the 80's fried what little he had in mental acumen, and even his whores don't really want to be around him. He's the poor man's idea of a rich man, with all the flashy pompous absurdity to boot. He probably would have made a hell of a Roman senator in antiquity, but he really has no business being on the modern political stage. To top all that off, his behavior of late relegates him to the likes of the many tin-pot dictators of the 20th century, with echoes of Slobodan Milosevic.

Of all the men available to use as a role model, Donald Trump might be the worst choice available.

[–]thenonwamen3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i think its very difficult for me to call someone who manage to achieve becoming president an idiot. theyre are many rich kids who want to become president. at the beggining of the 2016 campaign he was bullying other politicians, calling them names saying things no other politician would. at the end for whatever reason has become much weaker.

[–]SalporinRP1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He is a president that is endemic of American society. A reality TV president that went viral because of "sick burn" soundbites. He and his campaign team did an amazing job of tapping into the nostalgia reservoirs of Middle America.

That being said, when things leak like Trump asking why South Korea doesn't pay us a fee for having American Military bases in SK, and Rex Tillerson and General Mattis not being able to get him to understand that those bases are important for national security, it's hard to not think he's a complete moron.

[–]darkstar10310 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think Donald Trump was a product that some very powerful people sold to desperate Americans in the rust belt who cannot compute that those manufacturing and coal mining jobs aren't ever coming back, and instead of innovating solutions they appealed to authority. And who can blame them? We've spent the better part of a century ramroding them into an education system that punishes critical thinking in favor of conformity. So there are millions of them in poverty with no real way out and here comes Trump, promising to soothe all that ails them. He'll bring back the factories. He'll reopen the mines, and he'll punish the Mexicans, after all it's all the Mexicans fault in the first place.

It was that promise of ascension out of poverty that got him elected, and, ultimately his failure to deliver that cost him reelection. Those mining and manufacturing jobs are gone. They aren't ever coming back. The mines are closed and that's a good thing anyway, because it was a horrific working environment.

Those who fail to adapt are doomed to oblivion. No single person of authority will ever be able to fix these problems. The people have to find another way.

[–]skuttt17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you hate him you read too much MSM. If you like him you‘re a fool.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good point. I'm left fiscally and disagree with a majority of his policies (getting rid of the bad trade deals that decimated the working class, and getting out of wars were points of his I agree with). That being said, vitriolic hatred towards the man seems to be the polar opposite of the kind of behavior we talk about here. Libs are always crying about him and I think that sort of behavior is weak willed and knee jerk reactionary.

[–]laredditcensorship8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

We live in a pretend society.

Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation.

Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent.

Free merch > Free speech.

Corporate, what kind of free manufactured merchandise must be in your goodie bag to consent investing into paradise?

Corporations through governments and vice versa are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. Have you heard of focus groups? Now with always online/big data collection. You are in focus groups. Except you don't get paid for it. You get exploited and you pay to be part of it. Nothing is free, except the energy from the sun, but some get a bill(skin cancer) for that. Thanks to always providing industrial surveillance corporatism.

Social credit score indoctrination

Urge or go well.

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[–]DS_19000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh so I left my tin-foil hat at your place, might be best if I pick it up later today, what you have said whilst wearing it is a little ... creepy...

[–]Scout_XYZ1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Supported.

Only qualm I can share is: why not make TRPRED super simple and easy to use, like a carbon copy of Old Reddit UX/UI?

Those were the golden age of posts and discourse, due in part by the low barrier of entry to make an account, navigate, and discuss.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no censorship on TRP.RED. You might ask GLO why he deleted his own tribe, but don't you dare come on here spreading false information. Commie

[–]Protocol_Apollo2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Anyone who thinks we can be buddy buddy with the Reddit admin by just wiping the words “trump” “republican” “Democrat” “pelosi” etc from the sub has their eyes closed.

Trp has had targets on it since 2013/14, long before trump even came into the picture.

The manosphere was never welcomed by the establishment.

Look at your favourite red pill youtubers. Why have they gone to patreon with only a minority of videos going on YouTube?

[–]Gamedragon3451 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

have the red pill YouTubers open an only fans account where they talk about TRP instead of showing nudes.

[–]oldskoolflavor3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm red pilled asf since I was a child and I hate Donald Trump. Idk why many of the RP community keep seeing him and his retards as their saviors. They ain't shit and don't represent me.

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[–]oldskoolflavor-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Who said anything about being Democrat? Wtf does being red pilled have to do with politics? Even the GOP have had their fair share of blue pill bullshit. Go do some fkn reading before you speak to your elders kid.

[–]Mrsupreme19891 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is how it started in Germany in the 30 s

[–]Glassland0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a communist take over now. It has nothing to do with NS.

[–]Mrsupreme19891 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ideology different same playbook

[–]trinitrotolueneblast1 point2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Stop following politics outside of election cycles fellas! It’s all theatre and posturing. Focus on yourself

[–]urbanfoh22 points23 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Stop following politics outside of election cycles fellas! It’s all theatre and posturing. Focus on yourself

Lol. We're experiencing the closest the US ever came to a totalitarian society via deplatforming and cernsorship and your parroting : "its all theater fellas"

[–]throwaway2222aa31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is all theater, but the real news is that the whole country is convinced that it isn't.

[–]MrBateman2-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

the closest the US ever came to a totalitarian society via deplatforming and cernsorship

Are you insane? It's called representative democracy: you may have heard of it. He was voted out, and we have more than two centuries of precedent for normal, orderly, non-violent transfer of power.

[–]urbanfoh4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We have more than two centuries of precedent for normal, orderly, non-violent transfer of power.

And the turkey said: "Are you insane? We've been fed well by humans for years! Nobody is going butcher us!"

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So they are going to unban everyone after the inauguration?

Yeah, probably not.

[–]OurBoyPalutena1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also an Italian NEWSPAPER journal (libero) got banned from twitter this is the end of free speech my guys

[–]AceMav210 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are we going to be able to have profile pics?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Profiles have pics right now.. https://www.trp.red/follow/redpillschool

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What stack are you using? Who are you using for hosting?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LEMP

[–]seekfirst1st0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Join the .win family. Be Theredpill.win

[–]modTheRedPike2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

While I personally totally respect what they do, we have chosen to remain independant. It's safer for all involved.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1

[–]guccibans0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck do I join the discord

[–]RavelsBolero0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps consider using a federated social media service? i.e something decentralised. Whatever you do, try to avoid plugins and leaks of data, and try not to need real user data for signups as there's no need for it.

You better make sure all passwords are hashed and salted too. People will be looking to hack the platform and leak user data.

If they can't shut down your host, they will try to go after your domain name by reporting you to your domain registrar, so be ready for that also.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z2uzEM0ugY

My favorite speech on free-speech.

Let's not become 1984, ok?

[–]King_dom_cum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

/u/redpillschool

Maybe I'm slow on catching this but you can no longer find this sub via Google. I'd swear I could at the start of 2021 as that's how I've always found the sub on new devices.

Still showing up on Duckduckgo

The reason I was looking for this sub via chrome is I was having trouble confirming my username on trp.red via Brave Browser.

[–]1LowCreddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your sentiment, but video hosting of any real capacity is a money hole. You are unlikely to even come close to breaking even. A good alternative would be audio-only podcasts. They are much, much smaller and what most people want anyhow. You can supplement this with a slideshow framework that coordinates audio with images. This gives you 99% of the videos' communication benefits with 1% of the costs. If you can hack in small video clips into that framework, then video becomes unnecessary.

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[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

We haven't censored a single contributor on trp.red. Tribes are self-moderated. GLO decided to delete his own tribe. Get fucked

[–]GGrub80 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There needs to be a global movement against this nightmare. Something incredibly artificial and dumb like BLM managed to recruit so many supporters across the globe, why can't we do the same? As long as we're fragmented we don't stand a chance. There are political parties everywhere in the world that share our values, we need a temporary alliance (it would degenerate in something undesirable if it overstays its welcome) to make the pendulum swing back before it breaks. This has to happen NOW while we can still use the Internet, which is the globohomo's instrument of propaganda but also its greatest weakness and they damn well know it, hence the massive censorship.

[–]usedtimecapsule0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if it’s because a lot of conservatives say “take the red pill” but they aren’t referring to this sub they just mean see the truth in politics. So maybe that’s why they hate trp. I honestly dislike when conservatives say that because their “red pill” isn’t the full truth.

Cause let’s be honest trp isn’t political at all it’s mostly about making men successful. If anything I’d hope most trp people see the truth in politics.

[–]greenricegod1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

RIP free speech. Will be missed

[–]plaudite_cives0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think that the cost/benefit ratio is food enough to justify running your own platform.

Even though it's quite cheap to spin up your own PeerTube instance - when something breaks the costs / downtime wont look as good.

If I were you I'd just diversify ( and upload it to e.g. to BitChute and some other similar platform)

[–]willthedj-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you elaborate more on assessing your relationship with your father

[–]Quo210-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Talking about how crazy was the group effort pulled off by big tech in silencing Trump and the conservative party just gets apathetic answers on how "if they got banned they were doing something bad"

Too many people out there don't grasp the severity of what just happened. If they can do that to the POTUS who also happens to be a billionaire, what's left for anyone else?

The predictions on this subreddit early in the year seem to be happening at an accelerated rate. Sucks to be right for the guy who painted the most bleak year and was right on this one

[–]Herdsengineers-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Facebook, Google, and others are even now laying their own privately owned long haul cable systems and plan to sell excess capacity. Won't be long before the Big Tech companies have a monopoly in every way over telecommunication, and to communicate at all remotely, you'll have to conform to their views and agendas. And as all totally privately, non-government entities, they'll have a right to censor you as they see fit. And just think, Mark Z. started FB as a platform to rate women hot or not.

Anyway, at some point, we're going to need our own physical infrastructure or we won't be allowed to even patch in to the telecom lines. What's coming is scary.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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