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One trait that distinguishes alphas from betas

January 14, 2021
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Doing whatever the fuck you want. That’s it. Allow me to elaborate.

I have read countless threads on asktrp that could simply be solved by asking OP: well, what is it that you wanna do?

Alphas make their own decisions and they make these decisions with confidence. They don’t seek the approval of others before making their decisions. They trust their intuition, they know exactly what it is they desire and their decisions back this up.

Let’s consider a hypothetical yet very practical and common scenario: you match with a bitch on Tinder

Beta behavior: running to the asktrp sub and requesting advice on how to respond, how to ask for her number, whatever.

Alpha behavior: responding how you like and then moving on with your day regardless of the outcome. Those of you who have actually read the sidebar might call this... outcome independence.

I see so many guys consult the asktrp sub about what how an alpha would respond, whether or not this is beta behavior, how to handle that situation as an alpha, whatever.

Let me tell you, you’ve already lost the battle once you reach that stage. Think of the chaddiest most alpha motherfucker you know. Do you think he’s bitching about how his date went? Or do you think he simply learned some lessons and moved on to his other options? Do you think he’s spending his time and attention mentally masturbating over trivial details regarding a social situation? Or do you think he’s too busy killing it at life to give a fuck?

True alphas aren’t running to an Internet forum to seek approval before they act. They aren’t consulting strangers on the internet to tell them how to handle a certain situation. They don’t need to be told what’s acceptable and what’s not. You know what’s really alpha? Making your own fucking decisions because it’s your fucking life.

Next time, before you consult the sub or anybody in your life for that matter simply ask yourself: What is it that I want to do? Then go fucking do it.

The asktrp sub is designed for you to obtain different perspectives so you can gather information that’ll ultimately help you make better decisions on your own. It isn’t meant to hold your hand and guide you through all of life’s decisions. It’s designed to teach you how to fish better instead of gently placing the fish into your open hands.

Do whatever the fuck it is you wanna do

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Title One trait that distinguishes alphas from betas
Author KingGerbz
Upvotes 541
Comments 85
Date January 14, 2021 6:10 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–][deleted] 261 points262 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Damn you just killed the subreddit bro

[–]Endorsed ContributorRPU_mike77 points78 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

“There aren’t a lot of hard and fast rules of the red pill, but this is one of them: be your own judge.” -u/rstonept

[–]lefty92913 points14 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

u/rstonept had an emotional hissy fit over on MRP about a month ago because he disliked some guys post and has steadily fallen off over the last few years. its funny some people still quote him just because he wrote some good stuff years ago.

there's quite a few authors in the sidebar like that. anthol kay wrote great work a decade ago but his modern day work is absolute trash. thats stone in a nutshell so take what he writes currently with a grain of salt. the guy gets more triggered than a fat sjw these days

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT15 points16 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

because he wrote some good stuff years ago.

What was your favourite?

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

ah, class is in session. gather round boys, this is called Fogging.

[–]Thismawfuckaritehere-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Was that a post or are you suggesting he’s fogging?

[–]i-am-the-prize1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

read "when i say no i feel guilty" and you'll know. but yes, he personified the technique via replying with only the portion of the volley he found relevant to his worldview (frame) and let the rest of the comment go past him and into the fog behind him.

[–]lefty9296 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

shit, I can't even remember... you've been irrelevant for quite some time now.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRStonePT5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

So you're holding a grudge and can't remember why?

Dude, this is pretty funny

[–]lefty9293 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Where did I write that I held a grudge? You've just fallen off mate, and your occasional emotional outbursts on MRP come off weird.

The irony in you being triggered enough to argue here is great though

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you say anything? What was the point and purpose? If you disagree with the statement, tell us why. If you are attacking someone, it's because you have a grudge.

[–]mikrodizels0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There can be things you want to do but you don't know how to do them, sometimes your way is way off the best way

[–]Buzz13255 points56 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. I still like to ask friends for their opinion on ceratain topics, sometimes you get in your head to much and it helps to see it from a different perspective. If u consider their opinion valid and let it influence your actual decision is up to you in the end.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 50 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very few things in life are dogmatic with no exceptions. The CEO is the top dog in a corporation. However, he still consults his other executives and employees before making decisions just to gain their input and perspective. But like you said, it is up to the CEO to decide how much influence these outside perspectives have on his decision.

At the end of the day it’s his company just like it’s your life, and it’s up to you to decide how strongly you want to consider outside influences in your decisions.

[–]Ensifror20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do what ever you want, but also take responsibly for your actions and their consequences.

If all you want to do is sit at home and play world of warcraft for 16h, then consider the consequences of doing that before you actually do it.

[–]urbanfoh61 points62 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh I don't like posts like: "One way to be a man - heres how!"

Masculinity is such a complex topic with multiple facettes. You say an alpha is so confident he doesn't need to ask for advice. Well lets take it to the next level of abstraction:

Where does his confidence come from? It did not evolve in a vacuum

To become confident and show a level of competence you need to learn somewhere whats a masculine mindset and how to do things in a socially calibrated way. If you have no experience with women you need to make some mistakes to learn or ask more experienced people for advice.

[–]ImNotSue25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah the post is being uselessly dismissive.

You can 'do what you want' and do the wrong thing for your goal because you're unskilled and lacking knowledge. You can browse TRP all day and do nothing with just circling around anger and 'what ifs' without acting on it. Resorting to stereotypes of the chaddiest Chad who ever chadded and saying asking for advice is wrong just to push a 'rule of thumb' about behavior, misses the point of TRP existing to provide a library of theory and knowledge that isn't easily grasped by yourself.

[–]prettyawsm5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's nothing wrong about asking and only stupid doesn't ask. I think OP simply meant that this sub gets so cringe sometimes kiddos asking how do I respond to x while all the stuff is already given to them.

[–]KingGerbz[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree and that’s why my post isn’t titled “The only differentiating trait between alphas and betas” but rather “one trait that distinguishes the two.”

As another commentor said, it’s still good to seek advice. I’m constantly asking questions all the time whether it’s to customers I’m selling to or professors I’m learning from. The essence of my post isn’t advising men against using their network and asking questions.

More so it’s along the lines of doing what it is you wanna do because only you know what your desires are. You’re the only person who has the live with every consequence of every decision you make, so they might as well be your decisions.

This post isn’t meant to be the end to be all guide to masculinity. Just a mode of thinking that can help some guys make better decisions for themselves and live a more confident life

[–]_nein_danke14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is true EVENTUALLY, but I don’t get why new guys who want to ask for specific info on askTRP get burned so much. We get it, you know TRP, but why act like you can just read something and automatically start acting that way? Reality doesn’t work that way. This is some Mark Manson level “hey man, just stop giving a fuck, okay?” Yeah it looks cool when you can give advice out made for a reality that is completely binary, like psychology, culture and personality doesn’t exist.

Also if you just all of sudden start acting like this, people will know you’re full of shit.

Edit: that isn’t to say that acting like this isn’t the end goal, because it is.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t get why new guys who want to ask for specific info on askTRP get burned so much.

You answered your own question. They want a todo list, not truth and observations on the world around us, whereby they can make their own list.

Look, folks, learn from me, but don't do what I did. You'll fuck it up and it'll end in disaster.

[–]_nein_danke1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree to an extent. I mean genuinely nuanced information, I don’t mean the guys who ask for cheat codes/easier ways of doing anything.

[–]VintageSpecialist769 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

Alot of the stuff on this subreddit is about women and how to control/use/hate them

It's not about them.

It's about you.

Focus on yourself and all the other shit will fall into place.

[–]Jcorb8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thing is, people don't come to this sub because they're alpha; but because they're trying to become alpha.

Society isn't particularly helpful to men today, or giving them the sorts of lessons they need. My dad wasn't the best father figure, and it's because he didn't have a father at all. So he did the best he could.

I don't fault him for that, but it left me going through life without much in the way of confidence, not knowing how to handle myself in different situations. It's what eventually lead to me finding this sub, and honestly over a couple of years now, it's legitimately changed me in a lot of ways, primarily for the better.

But I'm also not "alpha". Truthfully, I don't know if I'll ever be, or even if things are just less black-and-white as you get closer to your goals. I'm certainly in a much better place than I ever have been, though.

I think people post here in the hopes of answering, "am I at least on the right track?"

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is wrong. "Alpha" and "beta" are not descriptions of men.

They are descriptions of behaviours.

There are alpha behaviours and there are beta behaviours, and all men are capable of both.

Furthermore, both alpha and beta behaviours have uses in your life, depending on your individual circumstances and goals. If you're avoiding using beta behaviours because it feels shameful to you, then you are only using half of a full toolbox.

[–]Vegas_TP66 points67 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry about being Alpha or Beta or whatever. Alphas are generally born that way, not made.

Just be masculine, and have masculine traits and behaviors. I.e. lift heavy, do cold approach, have financial freedom etc. The rest will follow.

[–]SatyaNi83 points84 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. They were raised that way in my opinion.

Even dogs can be changed when their master know what he’s doing.

An alpha can be destroyed, a beta can be transformed.

[–]Waitzkin29 points30 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't have a solid opinion on being born an alpha or being raised as such; but I have to say that a lot of alphas get sabotaged in their infancy.

I say this because I used to display alpha traits growing up, but attending a religious school quelled those same traits, that is until I learnt of the rp, and had to undue a lot of behavioural systematic education.

Submissive education is a risk for children, and they should learn why they are being disciplined, and not punished for getting what they want.

[–]SatyaNi20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I strongly agree. Public schools are also at fault. And I think it one of their primary goals to tame the young boys into submissive citizen. Being raised around « strong » women achieving the deed.

[–]koolkat18214 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

it can really go both ways. thats where i find my issues - constantly working to better myself and then occasionally letting it slip, which of course fucks everything up.

girls i fuck with want the bad guy but constantly push to see the vulnerable side, and i cave too often. traumatic childhoods screw shit up more ways than one, and sometimes its hard to push all that to the side just for some pussy when someone is really pushing you to open up.

i try to keep a rock solid frame, but we all need someone to vent too and they always make a great case to be that person. slowly finding out they dont really give a shit lmfao

[–]redditisnowtrash1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I relate to this and I'm pretty sure most of us fuck up in revealing too much about ourselves, it's just part of the journey. I had the same experience with this girl who kept pushing for me to open up more and more and when I did, she gave me the blankest stare in the world and the coldest way of speaking to me from then on. I learned my lesson and realized she lost attraction as did I from her response as it showed me her true character.

There was one post on here that made me realize something though: If you come across as vulnerable and show her that you're still feeling suffering from what transpired in your past, she'll still see you as this child who never got over their emotions.

If you have the same conversation but show the bitch that you overcame that shit with your own hero story then her tingles will activate.

It's all about the perspective you're creating of you in her mind.

[–]partyboob30510 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Watched my brother become a beta real quick when he got his chick pregnant, started smoking weed nonstop, and completely stopped working out

[–]cosmichyperlapse5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm convinced smoking weed has an extremely negative impact on Red Pill mindset and alpha mentalities. I've read it is estrogenic, so I am not sure if that plays a major part or not.

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[–]java-util-hashmap3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I literally do whatever the fuck I want, whenever I want. That’s because I have the money to do it.

Guess what, I can’t talk to any girl that I actually like. I’m scared shitless of failure and being rejected.

The problem is that I never learned to fail. I never failed in school and never got rejected for a job I wanted. Didn’t even get denied when I raised money for startups.

[–]Pres-Bill-Clinton2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just start talking to girls. Every day, every opportunity. It can be about anything. Ask which isle has the peanut butter in the supermarket. Anything just to get use to it. What the fuck is the worst that will happen.

Eventually it will become natural and boom, you are a player.

Kind of like writing Java. How do you learn Java, by coding Java. Same thing. Think of this sub as the StackOverflow of dating.

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[–]java-util-hashmap1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Replying to point out that you can be alpha in other aspects of life but a beta when it comes to girls.

I’m a social butterfly. I just have a hard time asking for number from a girl that I like. If I don’t care, it’s easy.

Absolutely agreed on social parties. I’m a member of SoHo house. It’s basically HB8+ galore.

If you look at my post history, I throw parties all the time. At my place and on boats.

These days I take a little help from ❄️ and nothing is scary anymore!

[–]bmcapers7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha and Beta are social constructs, like masculinity. They’re just as meaningful as jtdniitgiijf. So go forth. Grow. Self sustain. Doesn’t matter if the rest will follow, follow your will.

[–]-ThePathIsTheGoal-4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Completely agree. About 99% of questions on asktrp and various topics written about on here could all resolve themselves with doing whatever you want and not caring.

The key to all of it is not caring. Genuine outcome independence.

Paradoxically life seems to reward you more for this disposition.

[–]Zech4riah4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You somewhat said this in your post but let me put it short:

You need to have abundant mindset and be outcome independent before you can apply "Do whatever you want".

If you DON'T have the correct mindset as foundation, "Doing what you want" will lead you to behaving like a pussy.

[–]SlickBlackCadillac0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Doing what the fuck you want only works after you have fully embraced abundance mentality. Because only then will what you want to be line with what is considered alpha.

[–]DillonDockery4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is true although the vast majority of men who find TRP are not naturally Alpha. They are Beta's who want to know how an Alpha would act, and that's why this sub exists. Once you have internalized TRP concepts you really shouldn't need to ask for advice here.

[–]rad_dynamic4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be One.” – Marcus Aurelius

[–]RottingVillain66610 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually do what i want and don’t give a fuck. Extra alpha trait: you are successful in what you decide to do, you actually will go offline and don’t give a darn about responding to people

[–]jdutches133 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Or maybe the real question is: what do I truly want? For me, this has been the most difficult question I ask myself.

I think I want something until I get it. You dont know what you want until you get it. You dont know what you want till it's gone.

There is no external thing that can make me feel fulfilled internally.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I posted something similar on the seddit subreddit recently. I will reproduce it here:

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This subreddit, like much of the internet, often becomes an exercise in overthinking and mental masturbation. And yes, I am guilty of it too. But we should all take a step back and remember:

An attractive man does whatever the fuck he wants. He says whatever pops into his head, he goes down whatever path he thinks will be most interesting and fun, and he does not give a single solitary fuck what anybody thinks. And not only are women ok with that, they actually like it. Most people, and especially women, live in a mental prison where they feel like they are afraid to be themselves, so seeing somebody enjoy themselves without giving a fuck is thrilling.

A “natural” alpha does not sit in his mom’s basement memorizing a bunch of scripts or long rules of dos and don’ts. He just says and does the right thing in every moment and he ends up smashing some broad at the end of the night, and he usually couldn’t even tell you what he did to successfully smash.

Unfortunately, however, most of us are not “natural” alphas. We were trained to be needy, operate in womens’ frame, and to overthink our every move. The best thing you can get out of this subreddit is to 1) understand that you, like every man, have these tendencies, and 2) you should build yourself up to avoid falling into these traps, so that you can 3) get back to the point where you can do whatever the fuck you want.

In other words, you should look at the literature as a series of “fences” around your behavior. You can do whatever the fuck you want, so long as you stay within these guidelines:

1) Take the lead and take responsibility for the interaction.

Sorry, you just cannot depend on the woman to take the lead. You must be creative, smart, and funny to find some subject matter that is interesting and emotionally resonates with her. Ultimately she needs to contribute something to merit your attention, but the responsibility to make the interaction fun and interesting is on you. This requires practice.

2) Maintain your frame and your integrity.

“Frame” is a complicated concept, but it essentially means “the rules that govern the interaction.” If you find yourself worried about whether you are conforming to her “rules” then you live in her frame, which will cause her to lose attraction. Ultimately you decide what is right and wrong, fun and not fun, cool and stupid, and she should feel worried she might not stack up. Of course, this means that 1) you must have rules and 2) your rules should not suck. Unfortunately, figuring out what your rules are requires thinking.

By “integrity” I mean “don’t sacrifice what it means to be you.” Don’t change your rules or boundaries based on what she wants. Don’t change your opinions to match hers or pretend to enjoy something that sucks. If she is being boring, stupid, or insulting, put an end to that shit. Women are constantly testing your integrity, and the moment she realizes you are sacrificing your beliefs, boundaries, opinions, or fun for her (or anybody else), she loses attraction.

3) Don’t be wanty

Wantiness is when you ask her for anything or do anything to display you want something from her. If you stare at her too long, tell a boring ass story about something she doesn’t give a fuck about, brag, or do any other selfish shit, you are being wanty because you are subconsciously communicating that you need her validation, attention, and acceptance. When a woman realizes you want something from her she immediately wants to flee because she feels pressure to perform.

Wantiness comes from ego and scarcity mentality. Part of our psyche wants to have fun, but a different part of our psyche is often afraid we are going to die in the jungle alone with no pussy, so it causes us to act foolish. But if you had no scarcity, you could just act normal and let the fun part of your psyche take over.

There is one exception to this rule: You can ask for her stuff after she has emotionally invested enough in you to WANT to give you that thing anyway. For example, if you have been talking to a woman for 45 minutes and she wants to continue to hang out with you, you can say “hey want to go to the next bar with me”? If the women is emotionally invested in you, you asking that question doesn’t feel like wantiness to her - instead, it feels like you are accommodating her wantiness. But if she does not give a fuck about you yet and you ask her to go to another bar with her, she will interpret your question as wantiness.

4) Don’t do more for her than she has done for you.

Humans evolved to view relationships as reciprocal transactions, so when you do stuff for her she hasn’t deserved, her subconscious mind senses that something is “off” and wants to get away because it now realizes that she owes you. Do not do anything for her that she has not done for you first, including giving her attention, and only in proportion to what she has done for you. Unless she has done something to deserve it, do not buy her anything, run any errands for her, be her therapist, be her emotional tampon, wait for her, and so forth. Doing too much for women is the same thing as being wanty: men do things women don’t deserve because they are seeking their validation.

5) Have fun.

Having fun means you are curiously pursuing whatever is fun, funny, interesting, or exciting at any particular moment with no regard to what anybody thinks. Life is short, you should be enjoying it. No woman ever decided to not fuck a guy because he was having too much fun. Just don’t be a jerk.

There was a great book a few years called the Book of Pook, and it was basically about how men learn to remember how it was to be a child again. Children just go after whatever they think is fun without worrying about pleasing or being censored by women. If you can somehow recapture that, you will be attractive to women.

[–]cliffy3488012 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

making decisions where you are confident and wise=alpha

knowing your limits // valuing your time and asking for help= also alpha

ie- yes I can replace my spark plugs but can i do something else with that time and hire a mechanic?

or

asking an attorney, hey what's the best way to deal with this legal situation

betas won't ask for help when they need it.

fix it and move on. knowing your limits is wisdom, not beta.

[–]Don_Draper271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's still smart to use your brain before committing to every little interest that pops in your head.

Wake up one day and decide that you want a Tesla? Do you go to the lot immediately and try and drive off the lot with your new Model S? Or isn't it alpha to take a few weeks to do research and check out some of the finance subs for car buying tips?

I think I'm diving too deep into OP's post but overall I agree. Just clearly knowing what you want and being able to follow through that interest adds major points to your value. Hanging out with a group of friends and everyone's like, "wHaT iS tHeRe To Do?" And you being the guy who is like, "Man I'm up for some skinny dipping." And you can take it one step further if you have a following and be like, "I'm gonna go for a swim. I guess you guys can come with."

[–]drv120211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the main things that these blue pilled kidults haven't learned or learned from watching those dumb "how to pick u girls" videos on youtube, is that you can't force people to love you. If she likes what she sees, then she will like you. Money and looks help you beat the odds. That's why TRP advocate so heavily on strict diet, gym sessions, and becoming a valuable asset.

[–]C0untry_Blumpkin1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rare good advice from a trp post? Crazy. Though for the most part you shouldn't worry too much about Alpha vs Beta shit, just don't be a bitch.

[–]kevintheredneck1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just like to read what the betas are worried about. “My girlfriend is mad at me, and I don’t know why.” Who give a flying fuck? I couldn’t give a one single flip who is mad at me. Do your thing, everyone else can kiss your ass.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Think of the chaddiest most alpha motherfucker you know. Do you think he’s bitching about how his date went?

I bet he did at one point in his life. Then he figured stuff out (possibly with the help of others), and later developed attractive qualities and thus abundance.

Figuring out what works is an essential step to becoming more attractive to women.

"Do whatever you like" only works when you have the skills and attraction in place.

There's a billion "I do whatever the fuck I like" men out there that are getting zero attention from women. Develop the skills and the attraction as well as the attitude so you don't become one of them.

[–]r32_skyline4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

OP you sound like the YOLO folks over the years until COVID hit and then suddenly they wear masks and are scared to shake someones hand. IE; Fraudin on your cool and calm personality until it really gets tested.

[–]fonkybeing0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Bro he just means to be natural. You guys are overthinking I was there once too. No man is naturally beta, just act like you are dont give too much fuck, wanna say a joke say it, want to kiss her kiss her.

[–]r32_skyline1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No he means -

Doing whatever the fuck you want. That’s it.

Which is a spectacular social media trait that someone who says it never measures up to in real life unless they are a criminal and can take the heat -- which ironically is the only time a girl will feel natural tingles compared with the other 80% of men she needs to be around.

[–]fonkybeing0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Idk man it works for me. I just have my opinion, am not scared to fight and get into conflict. Girls call me bad boy or someshit which I never was and I am not. Just being myself and acting like my father raised me.

[–]r32_skyline2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

am not scared to fight

Well you really should be, because fighting is brain dead stupid and the lowest form of problem solving.

[–]riggedved3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What kind of nonsense is this.

If someone asks advise from a person who has been through the situation, nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong with asking for guidance from an experienced person. The advice can make the journey less cumbersome and less painful, use less resource and achieve target easier.

However, offering unsolicited advise, like how the OP is doing, is definitely an unadulterated Beta trait.

Just saying.

[–]Ask_For_Cock_Pics1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How so? I wouldn't really call posting advice on an advice forum "unsolicited".

[–]rockyp320 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree I’ve asked questions for years but I’m still in the frame Of almost asking for permission it does you no good. The answer is simply to go after what u want how u want to do it

[–]JohnZoffman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How did they become that way in the first place ?

[–]RacerxCC0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is like one of those "you just gotta have a positive aura" kinda posts. BS.

Guys having trouble and asking for help don't know what they're doing wrong so vague shit doesn't help one bit.

There's been a few posts lately by karlmalone that are good because they outline trp theory but then also give actionable steps that guys can take and make actual progress.

Stuff like that builds confidence and helps guys turn into the men they wanna be which is idgaf and outcome independence.

Theory, how to apply it, progress, competence, confidence.

[–]Gamedragon3450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

is there a discord for TRP

[–]pappo4ever[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Do whatever the fuck it is you wanna do

Sometimes is not easy to know what do you really want to do. A way to find out is to imagine yourself taking the decision and living with it, if you are happy with that, do it.

[–]ImOscarMike960 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the type of posts lurkers must read. No matter what you choose to do, atleast embrace it.

[–]69odin4200 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for this. I’m leaving this subreddit lol

[–]winstonreefers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good to see some solid posts popping up here.

[–]1chopping_livers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also remember, that true Alpha is a mythical creature.

Just... be attractive, guys. C'mon.

[–]Long_Requirement97890 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well doesn't that come with experience? Requires feedback too or ...

[–]KingGerbz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to allow the trp brothers to discuss my content amongst themselves without me jumping in to DEER. You’ve came after the rush so I guess I’ll bite. This response could apply to multiple other commenters on this post:

Many of you have misconstrued the overall essence of my message. Never was I advocating being the lone wolf. It can be immensely helpful and save you great headaches and time to consult experienced mentors on key issues. In fact I meet at least one of my professors every week during their office hours to pick their brain.

It is foolish not to take advantage of your resources and the network you have at your disposal.

It is useful to seek insight of an experienced entrepreneur if you want to start you own business. Ask them about lessons they learned along the way, what they would have done differently. That typa information is yuge and invaluable.

Then there are the typa questions that are relevant to the point I was making: questions only you can answer. To simplify for the sake of discussions, some examples include:

  • what should I eat for breakfast?
  • which girl should I spend time with?
  • should I drive 30 minutes to hangout with a girl?

Nobody can answer these questions but you. Well what the fuck do you want to eat? Which girl would you prefer hanging out with? Do you think the girl is worth a 60 minute round trip?

Questions of this nature are the ones I am referring to. Reflect on what it is you desire, weigh out the pros and cons according to your personal valuation of involved parties, then make the decision that pleases you the most. Deal with the consequences regardless of what you choose.

A girl hits me up to hang, I’m not going to run to this subasking you guys how to respond, whether or not it’s alpha or beta to hangout with her, whatever. I’m going to respond how I like and decide for myself if I want to spend my time and investment on her.

You guys don’t know how much I like her, you don’t know how much I value my time, you have no idea what I prioritize in my life. Why would I expect you guys to tell me which decision is going to be best for me? Only I can do that, so only my opinion has weight on my decisions.

The more life experiences you gain, the more lessons you learn the better you become at assessing your desires and decisions. Make the decision you like most, learn from it if you fuck up, rinse and repeat.

That is the essence of my message.

[–]zino1930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And I would add this works when you look for a mentor or attach to some red pill preacher. If some other dude is calling the shots for your life - even if they are the right shots, you're not actually in the driver seat and learning how to drive.

[–]Red_Cat690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, good one.

Asking question is not totally useless though, since people can first build some social intelligence to be more effective at getting what they want.

[–]holytrpbatman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are asking yourself "Am I acting like a beta? Should I ask TheRedPill?" Then yes, you are.

[–]usedtimecapsule0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true, real alphas don’t give a fuck.

However, put the right girl in front of them, and they’ll cave right into the asktrp sub.

[–]beepbopbitch10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

hurdurr this is what ALPHAS DO

Replicate so we can become ALPHASSSSSS!!!!

says the beta

[–]MariaCDS0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you make it so difficult for yourselves? The idea of alpha and beta males does nothing but destroy your egos, saying you have to be this and this to be alpha (the stronger and better) means that if you aren't those things, you're weak and lesser of a man. People who buy into that stuff are setting themselves up for failure. Majority of women hate the "alpha/beta male" stuff, hearing it is a really big red flag for most of us.

[–]CareIsMight0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome post. I think a lot of men growing up never had a father figure they could look up to, or a father who had these traits and so they've grown up not knowing how to take the lead. All of my success has come down to initiating the first move and leading them into whatever it is you want to do. If they want to join or follow then they will. But they won't follow or join a man who isn't taking initiative. There's no room for hesitancy. Women can read this from a mile away. I recently missed out on a new plate because at the time I just didn't go in 100%. They'll give you a window of opportunity and it's up to you to take it by the horns. Another missed opportunity, I was waiting for the bus with a women and I initiated a conversation. Could see that she was interested but I didn't continue or take it to the next level by asking her for he number. Even if she had a boyfriend if she really wanted to give it she would. Missed opportunity but if YOU want it then only YOU can get it. You need to fight for what you want. Sometimes you may get lucky and a woman may fall into your hands but most of the time you need to prove yourself worthy. Understand and pinpoint what it is you want in life and set up achievable goals to make it a reality.

[–]kalar_saheb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Doing right things in right way at right time is more important than doing whatever we wish. Be wise.

[–]pamperons-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Does anybody know where the non-retards who used to post actual useful stuff went

[–]impostelite-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beta behavior: being on fucking MGTOW reddit typing a response similar to yours

[–]thisaintitchefff-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Beta: goes to medical school to become a doctor Alpha: faking his degree and trusting his intuition when doing a surgery

Your argument is flawed.

[–]generic_commenter99-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This a pretty meathead, simplistic view. Which is fine; you are more than welcome to live with narrow, simplistic views and opinions. If it makes you content and fulfilled, then go for it.

I think most are a little more intellectually curious about these philosophical questions and navigating the modern world.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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