I am a recovering blue pill addict, and am slowly coming to terms with the reality of the dynamic between the sexes. I have a lot of questions, as I'm sure most men do immediately post swallow.
The gist of swallowing the red pill to me seems largely a matter of lowering one's expectations of the benefits of a romantic or sexual relationship with a female. Iron Rule of Tomassi #6 and Briffault's Law come to mind as reasonably succinct quintessences of the idea.
Accepting these rules as true (and boy do they explain a lot), doesn't this vastly decrease the perceived value of every woman period? It feels an awful lot like I have been saving up my whole life for a race-car, only to find out that all cars max their speed out at 15 MPH, and are twice as expensive as I was lead to believe (shitty metaphor, but I think it makes sense).
To put it bluntly:
Given that a woman is incapable of the sort of dependable, long term love most men seem to crave, and given that this inherently increases the maintenance cost of what ends up being the female version of love (if it is transient and conditional, it needs to be maintained constantly), is it still worth it to pursue women as mates for anything remotely serious? What makes it worth it?
Also, given that consistent sexual strategies have been proven to be successful amongst many different women, isn't the actual gratification received upon success substantially diminished? Whenever I have success with a girl via game techniques, the success feels superficial and dishonest. After all, I often find myself needing to suppress actions that I genuinely want to engage in (being significantly less romantic/mushy at times, hiding interests in socially unacceptable hobbies), and needing to engage in actions I find boring at best, and reprobate at worst (pretending to enjoy obnoxious social events and pop culture, insulting/ostracizing perfectly nice 'beta' guys to establish Alpha).
How does the cost-benefit analysis work out for you all?
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