President of a country in my region considers introducing "a bachelor tax"

Rasalom72 · 2016-01-27T16:01:58+00:00

And this will force more men to abandon all efforts at being part of the society they are in. Want to tax someone with zero incentive to be productive? They will just stop working, and become a burden on society. This only hastens the collapse.

IllimitableMan · 2016-01-27T16:47:55+00:00

Any man rich enough to pay any serious degree of tax is rich enough to say "fuck this shit" and relocate. With cheap international travel and online banking/the internet, it's never been easier. Helps if you have location independent income too, eg: you're a trader on the stock market or have an online shop/business.

But yes, the general theme of unappreciated male necessity yet utter disposability is a recurring theme when you look at TRP/feminism and how society/government treats men and has treated men throughout the course of history. How government treats men is really a macro representation of how entitled women treat men - as people who aren't worth shit if they don't toil for others.

Basically in a nutshell: the elites want to ensure the average man is productive whilst not being too powerful. Going back 3 or 4 decades here in the UK, we had a good balance of not giving men too much power, but giving them enough freedom and wealth and legal rights to want to be productive and raise a family/hold up society.

The thing is, elites (politicians, govt and the people lobbying them) get greedy, economy changes, politics change... and this whole storm ends up with eroding the purchasing power and morale of everyday men to a point where they think "fuck this shit I'm gonna masturbate, watch porn and play online games for the rest of my life, it's fucking fun and life sucks!"

Trust me, that last quote I put in there... A LOT OF GUYS of differing ages feel like this. Especially those who are isolated (lots of guys are isolated) and don't really have much of a proper family.

You never hear about this shit from these people themselves because people are proud, guys know they are going to be disrespected, mocked, ridiculed and shit on if they talk about these things openly or make it obvious they opt for this lifestyle, but if some of the emails I get even represent a fraction of the bigger picture, I'm inclined to believe this shit is very common in the west with young disenchanted men and older divorced men alike.

On a further tangent, towards the fall of the roman empire when feminism ruled (women could own property, become lawyers etc) there was hedonism, lots of divorce and the family fell apart like we are seeing now. Men did the same shit then as they are now (history repeats itself) and what did the Romans do? Implement a bachelor tax to "encourage marriage" (more like punish men/force them to "man up" into marrying combative masculine whores who aren't worth a can of piss)

When the fuck will humanity learn.

SgtBrutalisk · 2016-01-27T17:38:06+00:00

Its coming , and here's why.

Tom Leykis made the observation that a bachelor can live very well on what would numerically be a shitty salary. Making 50,000 per year as a male/female/ one child family in an urban city like Los Angeles is poverty level standard. Make $50k by yourself as a dude, and you're living fairly well.

The model doesn't work for women, because they're still a slave to the Hypergamy engine. She's always going out, meeting friends, being sociable because a woman by herself ain't making any quality kids or meeting quality dudes to make and raise them with. Add in a compulsion to shop, and a woman making $50k per year is generally in consumer debt of $20k+ and living paycheck to paycheck. Married folks have it worse, as after the ceremony hubby is legally obligated to support his wife and her shopping habits into perpetuity. Its not unusual for married dudes clearing six figure incomes to be in obscene amounts of consumer debt thanks to Wifey

Now let's return to the Bachelor's example. Not many high SMV dudes reach that point these days; all the hot guys get poached off by women via marriage, divorce, or child support long before they earn big money. The medium and low SMV dudes however are in some cases high earning bachelors by default. They never got taxed via marriage or an expensive relationship, because they can't even get a date.

That incel engineer dude who's always whining about women going for the assholes and keeps getting cheated on is making $100K per year with nothing to spend it on except cars and video games, and women want that filthy beta lucre. They don't, however, want to actually put up with his company.

Enter the bachelor tax. This way the growing class of socially inept adult males who are both wealthy and single can be forced into paying for the spawn of the women who reject him. It also means high SMV guys who both know the hustle and have some coin don't dodge what women perceive to be "their responsibility" to help The Tribe.

Itll end up like Domestic Violence laws; on paper both unmarried men and women will be subject to it, while in practice the authorities only enforce it on men. Id guess the government will sell it as a family equity law because so many thugs keep dodging the Child Support authorities and someone has to think of providing for all those babies.

catacamas · 2016-01-27T16:26:33+00:00

Another example of the trend toward states forcing men to be cucks at gunpoint - and a rather blatant one at that.

This kind of thing is going to keep getting worse, much worse, until men start organizing and pushing back and saying, enough is enough, roll back femfascism.

Unfortunately, people who think we can ultimately separate our sex lives from politics are mistaken.

The state is like the farmer and we're the livestock.

The__Tren__Train · 2016-01-27T16:37:30+00:00

I wonder if women realize the gravity of this... Men are SO hesitant to marry them that the government actually has to step in and legislate.

I wonder if that gives them the briefest moment of pause..

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-01-27T16:29:53+00:00

They should call it:

Pre-emptive Child Support

...all beta slaves must pay the child support tax so that the idea of actual marriage leading to Divorce Rape doesn't seem so bad.

We can imagine someone saying:

"Well I'm essentially already fucked as a bachelor so why not marry the slut?"

RichardBelmont · 2016-01-27T17:25:00+00:00

We already do this, but we call it a marriage discount instead of a bachelor's tax.

https://ttlc.intuit.com/questions/1894449-is-it-better-for-a-married-couple-to-file-jointly-or-separately

If the government actually calls it a bachelor's tax, it's a sign of how bad things have gotten.

Archwinger · 2016-01-27T17:14:20+00:00

Is this bachelor tax for men only, or for all singles age 35+?

The_Man_on_the_Wall · 2016-01-27T17:54:30+00:00

I am not a John Galt / Ayn Rand type. Quite the opposite. But if the USA ever tried to institute a straight up tax on me because I fail to see the value in a one way contract then I will be forced to cash out all of my American investments and move to somewhere civilized.

Reddthrown · 2016-01-27T19:30:06+00:00

There already is a "bachelor tax" in most the world. It's not called that, but it's the consequence of married couples getting a tax discount.

Tamazin_ · 2016-01-27T17:29:14+00:00

So with 44% unemployement rate, your president want to fix it by forcing more people to have more children? Way to solve the problem! ._.

Fuck_shadow_bans · 2016-01-27T17:48:39+00:00

This actually has historical precedence. Before the downfall of Rome, there was a bachelor tax instituted because men weren't getting married. Women were such huge sluts that there was no point in risking anything to have sex with them. The army obviously needed soldiers to support the empire, and so the bachelor tax was born. It didn't stop the inevitable downfall though.

Snivellious · 2016-01-27T17:02:50+00:00

I'm surprised by the amount of surprise here. As an economic matter, fining bad behavior isn't significantly different than rewarding the corresponding good behavior. After all, giving some people more moves prices to the disadvantage of everyone else - look at Saudi Arabia, where the benefits system has produced wage slavery for everyone not on the dole.

Plenty of countries have strong economic incentives to get married, or to have kids in the context of marriage. That's everything from tax breaks in the US to direct cash payments for having kids in Russia. Every country will do what it takes to shore up the population, with no real respect for its citizens. This is just a more explicit and easier-to-flee version of the same principle.

I think the biggest story here is just that it's become acceptable to talk in terms of fines rather than payouts for married people.

GunsGermsAndSteel · 2016-01-27T17:25:43+00:00

There's gonna be a bachelorette tax as well, I assume?

alclarkey · 2016-01-27T18:00:46+00:00

I fucking called it. Institutionalized misandry is real.

MeatCurtainRod · 2016-01-27T20:38:44+00:00

this is old news and a major part of why TRP exists. Men pay into the state via taxes of all forms. If they don't, they are considered useless and pathetic, even if they can't afford to pay said taxes. Women are married to the state via institutional dependency. This means women leech off the tax money that men are forced to pay into, which is something they have all taken for granted.

This is fucked up beyond belief. This government system got voted in by hanging a carrot off a stick in front of all the ignorant yuppy women promising them independence from the man. The only problem is, this selfish dream of independence only transfers dependance from a working man over to the government, all the while taking even more money from the man, skimming a chunk off the top, and giving whatever small leftover to the pathetic woman. The result is a few generations of useless angry and depressed women who can't figure out that they are in such a pathetic state because they choose to live adult life like dependent toddlers, and with no achievements to show for since they grew up with nothing but handouts. The repercussions are a super high divorce rate, and generations of dysfunctional children and families.

This also brings into life the whole pathetic debate between "career man" and "career woman". The problem is that every man is expected to work, and expected to NOT be stay-at-home, so his only option is to become a career man. Women, on the other hand is rare to be a career woman because she still has the freedoms to be stay at home and jobless and child-raising without any burdens of social stigma.

HappyScribe · 2016-01-27T16:55:48+00:00

I identify as a woman, and feel a spinster tax would be discriminatory.

noobforlife · 2016-01-27T20:44:05+00:00

Sounds like what Rome did during its collapse. Haha let's see how well this goes for them. They want to push B&H into the broken EU. This coming from a guy who was born there before the war.

hke12 · 2016-01-27T19:07:04+00:00

Something like this was planned in Hungary

After the outrage they didn't talk about it anymore

MuhTriggersGuise · 2016-01-27T23:11:10+00:00

"The beatings will continue until morale is improved"

What flawless logic.

mojo_juju · 2016-01-28T03:31:39+00:00

Just one look at the deadbedrooms sub is enough to make me shudder and reaffirm my understanding of martial "relations"

holy fuck. i want to puke every time i visit that sub. yet I cant help but snicker. reminds me of this 19 year old guy I know who has a child. I'm thinking along the lines of "uhh... how could you not see that you were totally fucking yourself over, way in advance?" or "why not donate that brain to science, if you're not gonna use it, smart guy?"

it makes me want to interview married guys. but, i figure I see enough postings on TRP to corroborate the DBR trend. ...still, it would be cool to have a documentary on the effect.

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[deleted] · 2016-01-27T18:10:39+00:00

How in the absolute fuck does this "stimulate people to get a job"??????

mfkrspeaksenglish · 2016-01-27T19:28:17+00:00

Make sense. The government, as ultimate alpha, fucks women in the ear to gain votes and all men, betas, bucks for all this fuckery.

ktchong · 2016-01-27T19:29:13+00:00

Does the bachelor tax apply to only men or both men and women?

Blackierobinsin · 2016-01-27T21:16:29+00:00

I would marry another man who could satisfy me

bat_mayn · 2016-01-27T22:24:12+00:00

So it begins. Many people have been talking about this, that due to the falling marriage rates, and the general unwillingness of the modern man to be totally shit on, that western countries will start with a single male tax.

It's not enough that men do the most work, and that some men just want to live their lives in peace. They have to be reminded with a slap in the face they are beholden to a gynocentric statist tyranny. It is evident that western countries are failing rapidly, and nations around the globe are going to start to fall - with a very eager globalist state ready to bring them into the fold.

What a disgusting world, it is absolutely undeserving of any quality man.

BannedBandit · 2016-01-28T04:22:25+00:00

It entertains me that there are friends of mine, and some posters on this sub who think this won't happen in just about every western country in the next few decades unless we have a serious revolution.

The amount of people who think women should be paid the same as men for the same damn job is growing. SJWs have infected the education system and the millennial generation will be the biggest bunch of cucks history has seen.

nzgs · 2016-01-28T10:15:47+00:00

Typical low-IQ leftist politician sadly. His country's economy is in the dumps and his solution is to tax the most productive members of society more, just wow. Not to mention a lot of those bachelors would simply emigrate away ruining the economy further.

gizmozed · 2016-01-28T12:13:18+00:00

As if the reason for the high unemployment rate is that no one wants to work. Sure, creating such a tax is certain to create jobs. In the mind of idiots.

Avskygod0 · 2016-01-27T16:56:26+00:00

I am confuse

On one hand, it's Dodik mađija, on the other this isn't nice

Bosnian women aren't shitty like modern western ones tho

Etbidlepro · 2016-01-27T23:28:23+00:00

Man you do understand almost no one takes Dodik seriously at this point? The asshole has threatened secession at least twenty times. A bachelor tax ain't never gonna happen.

alritealritealrite · 2016-01-27T23:33:00+00:00

Only tax single men? No women? That's crazy

shelcod · 2016-01-28T02:55:16+00:00

Well considering the only people who benefit from marriage are the government, marriage counselor and divorce lawyer. I wouldn't be surprised if more countries start implementing bull shit like this.

VVictisVVdWVud · 2016-01-28T03:26:42+00:00

The way I see it the US already has a bachelor tax. If Everyone who is not a bachelor pays less tax, its pretty much the same thing right?

their gain is my pain and vice versa

Philhelm · 2016-01-28T04:06:07+00:00

I think that the people who are stating that they'd marry a dude in order to evade taxes are looking at things the wrong way. There comes a point when a government may simply need to be put to the sword.

garlicextract · 2016-01-28T04:20:41+00:00

I mean, is the bachelor tax 50%? Seems like you're still coming out on top paying it.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2016-01-28T12:36:39+00:00

Don't women also have to pay a bachelorette tax? This point is really important.

[deleted] · 2016-01-28T15:50:08+00:00

The United States already has a bachelor tax, they just hide it..

If your a single male do you receive: Earned income tax credits? no Child tax credits? nope

By not getting a discount your paying more

beginner_ · 2016-01-29T09:35:22+00:00

I don't know about US but here you actually already have a3 bachelor tax or let's say a childless tax. Albeit it's the same for both genders. Depending in with region you live you actually pay more taxes if you are married because your salaries are added up. The actually amount per $ earned is lower.

Still married and no kids is very stupid of course also for other reasons. However if you have kids you get extra money per kid and you can deduct expense made on them from taxes. Plus even if you are unmarried you now get taxed by the "married rate" which is lower. If you have a high income you will save thousands a year on taxes. of course less than the kid costs but it's still a hidden bachelor tax.

SgtBrutalisk · 2016-01-27T16:54:34+00:00

Question: What have you done as a civicly responsable person to take action against legislation against you?

Or did you just sulk, and go to the internet to rant.

great, idiot mouthed off an idiot proposal, did you do anything about it?

Skandalous · 2016-01-27T21:16:27+00:00

A lot of whining for TRP. The world isn't fair, endure and get over yourself. Your embellished anecdotal evidence is garbage. Ignore anything that has to do with taxation as people don't list where they live and are vague as fuck.

Title	President of a country in my region considers introducing "a bachelor tax"
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Date	January 27, 2016 3:59 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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