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Red Pill 101 – Ep. #27: The 9 Iron Rules of Tomassi

May 20, 2019
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Title Red Pill 101 – Ep. #27: The 9 Iron Rules of Tomassi
Author Rugby11
Upvotes 70
Comments 60
Date May 20, 2019 3:40 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]red_matrix27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The Red Pill stuff on YouTube is getting a little cringey. But Rollo’s The Rational Male is still the best thing I’ve read on this topic. Take the good from the bad. Don’t overdose.

[–]whuttupfoo12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah The Red Man Group was a bit cringey. Bunch of old ass dudes talking Theory but when you look at the girls they’re banging, they’re ugly as fuck.

[–]Rugby11[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Take the good from the bad. Don’t overdose.

What does an overdose look like?

[–]Was-Erlauben-Strunz64 points65 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Theses guys don't look well at all, their overall vibe is awful.

I agree with most of rp theories but I start to think we are following the same path as feminist, to a certain extent led by anger and resentment..

I think all of this without spirituality is still meaningless, and people hang to (very true) rp theory as archetypes to fill that void.

Good reminder this.

[–]Polishrifle36 points37 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I left this sub a long time ago. It’s good to start your journey and there are valuable lessons to be gleaned from the sidebar, but there is a lot of TRP that I take with a grain of salt. There’s just too wide of a spectrum of what people want: some want to spin plates, some want to find a woman to start a family with, some just want to go their own way. Whatever the case may be, it would help a lot guys that visit the main sub if they defined their endgame with honesty before embarking on the journey.

[–]Tek_Analyst40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a ton of ups and downs in this sub for about 2 years. What did I learn in the end? That women were the way they were with me because of me.

If you care about yourself, and take care of yourself in every way like you cared. Then women will also “love” you.

[–]TheRedPillMonkey21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think this is the best thing anyone can take from this sub.

[–]OutToAllenBANG5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I’m glad that I’m reading more of this here.

I dip in every now and then, and TRP is like everything in life - evaluate what you’re told, as it’s not gospel until you find out that it works for you.

TRP helps people, but it damages them too if the information is taken the wrong way. I’m glad it’s still around as it definitely helped me once I learned to understand what it was trying to say.

[–]Illiaan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but that’s it. A grain of salt, the gems need to be dug out of the dirt, they no longer jump at you.

[–]Modredpillschool3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I left this sub a long time ago.

As you post on this sub.

There’s just too wide of a spectrum of what people want: some want to spin plates, some want to find a woman to start a family with, some just want to go their own way.

This is a toolbox. Your personal goals are your own.

[–]Polishrifle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A pedantic mod; don’t see those everyday.

[–]Onein1024th16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP isn't a dogma, it's a toolbox. You need to find your own purpose outside of sexual strategy theorists

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's okay though. Once you realize how stagnant the rage and "the void" are necessary to go through and above who you are, in any sense of the phrase, in any increment you can. Speaking from personal experience only.

[–]Rugby11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think all of this without spirituality is still meaningless, and people hang to (very true) rp theory as archetypes to fill that void.

Good reminder this.

100% Great thing to ponder about.

[–]CaptainBW2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Concern trolls are out and about and trying to discover themselves it seems. You either never read the books, or even the sidebar and top posts, because this has all been addressed in different ways by different people.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Getting very sick of it and on a banning spree.

[–]Emerald__Faith51 points52 points  (28 children) | Copy Link

I've always wondered why we take advice from a guy who doesn't lift and is married to a unicorn.

kek

[–]Flying_Wingback17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As long as the advice works, it doesn’t matter where it’s coming from

[–]Thunderbird933 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

St Augustine made the analogy of a plate and food. Your arguing that as long as the food is good the plate is irrelevant. Would you rather take lifting advice from Kevin Hart or Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson? They both lift but obviously the Rock would be a better messenger

[–]WaterHound0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your scenario only supports his point. While The Rock is clearly the more experienced lifter, I doubt Kevin Hart would be handing out bad advice. Also, if you're a beginner lifter, there's not much Dwayne Johnson can do for you that Kevin Hart couldn't. The message is more important than the messenger.

[–]MatSapientia11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He lifts. And lifting isn’t a rule but it helps a lot.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ad hominem. A brilliant coach does not have to be a perfect player.

[–]kylerosa219 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He’s the reason we have all the good advice we have today. Respect him

[–]Thunderbird936 points7 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Bruh because betas are numerous and alphas are in the minority. This sub is filled with guys for the most part who are either ignorant or posturing online. Its like the whole crying feminism bullshit you see here, talk about competing for victim mentality. Its literally men crying "nah but divorce rape, I'm the victim." There should be some sort of vetting process for this sub, similar to Trump and the wall in the sense that if someone can contribute and provides value they are welcome. Screen against losers and have mods who actually maintain a high standard here

[–]MilkMoney1116 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, divorce rape is probably the most jagged red pill a man can swallow. I appreciate it when those guys share their stories. It’s a great reminder of perspective because no matter how bad things get or how special that unicorn was... at least you didn’t give a woman half your life for her to ruin while hers is improved significantly. Add kids to that and you’re a slave for a good chunk of your life

[–]Thunderbird931 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What about personal responsibility? Look at Cristiano Ronaldo, he went the surrogate route because of FORESIGHT bro. He gets full custody of his kids and his money is on lockdown for himself. If a guy is stupid to get married without protecting his assets why should I feel sorry for him? I went to a christian college and I cant tell you how many betas were pumped to display their weddings to some average ass broad all because of "love". Its thinking emotionally not logically that leads to divorce rape, no pity for such fools who got their nut and allowed a 3 second thrill of an orgasm to dictate their lives.

[–]MilkMoney1111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree but unfortunately men don’t realize they should’ve already been that way. Due to blue pulled conditioning. It isn’t until shit goes really bad that they wake up. Least they can do is warn others. But I do agree, the end goal is to be accountable for yourself.

[–]5Imperator_Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that claims of oppression by feminists are a lie and claims of oppression by men who have been divorce raped by the state are true. Minor difference.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

YUP. Most guys on this sub are beta as fuck r /asktrp proves that everyday with the dumbass questions being asked.

“ a girl looked my direction and smiled what should I do”

“ a girl said hi to me, how do I respond”

Definitely need to start vetting maybe making users send mods verification that they actually lift and have plates. Because right now this sub is becoming over ran with incels. But that’s just my two cents.

[–]kaolin2242 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Not only that.

There was a thread here a few days ago where a Tinder thot puked and shit all over a guy's couch after a date, got super embarrassed, promised to pay for cleaning, then proceeded to ghost him.

More than half of the responses were to simply eat the loss and pay for the cleaning himself, or a new couch.

A week before, some dumbass suggested intentionally playing the role of the pathetic simp cuck to avoid the woman coming after him with "possible" sexual assault allegations.

Then, they're trying to sell their philosophy by pretending to be far beyond standing up for yourself.

"I don't place value on validation from a woman, or anyone, so whatever..."

No shit, Sherlock.

That doesn't mean you roll over and eat the bowl of shit of your own volition. That's not you taking the higher road.

That's you being a pussy.

And people are eating this nonsense up like it's gospel.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL. I bet you soon we going to see a comment thread like this soon.

“ Bro just send her 1000 dollars and act needy as fuck so she doesn’t say you sexual assaulted her” - AlPhA male.

“ yeah man just send her money I do it all the time” - alpha 2

“ why the fuck would you send a girl bribe money basically” - me

“Bro you’re beta as fuck I don’t need validation from you or anyone im alpha as fuck I don’t care what you think pussy” - alpha 1,2,3,4,5,6

[–]urbanfoh4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Today we had a guide posted here how to be submissive in bed and how to screen for dominant women.

"An Alpha does not have to lead all the time" he said

I mean wtf. Is every retard now allowed to post on this sub?!

[–]Thunderbird934 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Your spot on man. Cant believe guys like Roosh wrote a book called "Bang" Its like pussy is the endgame of life for some guys and that shit seems pathetic. Something else I've noticed is the aggression towards theories that are not gospel around these parts. For example the idea that sexual strategy is amoral. I simply suggested that it has a morality, that of hedonism the pursuit of pleasure. I got roasted by guys calling me a dickwhad all for proposing alternative theory. Have you also noticed the victimhood premium? Everybody these days wants the moral highground by claiming to be aggrieved and TRP guys fall in line with that shit. I see so many upvotes for posts that depict men as victims, that shit is retarded

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

YES MAN. People come to asktrp to ask advice, I’ll give some sound advice that isn’t the “norm” and I’ll be downvoted and attacked for it BY THE PERSON WHO ASKED FOR ADVICE. Like wtf, it’s like everyone has this notion that if you don’t agree with them, you’re wrong, you’re beta etc.

And like you said no one seems to have end goals, it’s just “pussy” a lot of these fuckers think they can live with mommy in the basement have no income and somehow are going to pull 8,9 & 10s just off of some sexual theory they learned on the internet shit is hilarious.

Then when it doesn’t work they play the victim claiming all women are evil etc. when they didn’t take a second to look in the fucking mirror and see maybe why no women wants there ass. ( fat as fuck or skinny as fuck, face bumpy, no income, teeth yellow, living with mommy, etc. )

[–]Thunderbird933 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

lmfao, your keeping it real. They said Roosh got tracked down and actually still lives with his mom in the DC area. Another thing is the lack of empirical evidence. You rarely see statistics on this sub, its mainly bullshit theory that hasn't been mathematically modelled whatsoever but just because it sounds good its true, hence feelings over logic. Talk about sophism

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet you if I recorded myself cold approaching women and each time used a different theory . No matter which theory had the most success, there would be hundreds of ppl on this sub claiming that their theory works better, every women is different etc.

But then these are the same people who claim all women think the same. Lol.

[–]jackass_punk4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Roosh is fun as fuck tho. He doesn't give a shit and always gets into trouble about random crap. I don't think he's bitter and he seems like a carefree dude.

Rollo on the other hand is so bitter that it wouldn't surprise me if he admitted worshiping Ted Bundy, lmao.

[–]red_matrix0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just take the good with the bad. Other than the sidebar there isn’t much more to read - just execute. Come here and ask specific questions, that’s about it. I just lurk from time to time.

[–]urbanfoh-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair asktrp is meant to keep the low quality content out of the main sub. And of course the most successful among this sub ask the least questions there.

[–]majani1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Those who can't do, teach. That's the vibe I get from a lot of red pill leaders.

[–]Rugby11[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

How do you know he dosn't lift?

[–]ture_tupp7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He doesn't look like he lifts and, if he does lift, he needs to change something so he looks like he lifts.

[–]The_Red_Trooper12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why are guys shitting on rollo? His rational Male book is fuckin gold. It seems like this sub is turning to a dick swinging contest. People are always hating on other men here for no reason. Why hate on rollo because he is married? He got married 21 years ago. Not in today's cucked out age.

[–]AlexFC104 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Red Pill Retards should be the the term for these people. How are you gonna irrationally and blindly hate on the guy who wrote the book that is referred to as the Bible of the red pill.

If their criticism had any validity I’d be all for it but it doesn’t. A lot of them also seem to have never heard Rollo speak and judge him based on the fact that he’s built like a twig and looks like he’s 70.

[–]jackass_punk7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The red pill is great for improving your self but I find that the members of this sub have more to offer to me.

These guys seem bitter as fuck. Their vibe repels everyone not just women.

Besides who is better to take advice from? A guy that has a wife and is bitter as fuck but claims to know everything about women because he “studied them” or some natural care free guy who has dated tons of women? The answer is obvious.

I’m thankful for the advice but no thanks for the bitterness. I trust more the members of a community than any “godfather”.

[–]Rugby11[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I trust more the members of a community than any “godfather”.

Not sure hes bitter but as long as your happy and doing your best.

[–]AlexFC100 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rollo dated to a of women. During his 20s he had a rock band he played in. He is also very intelligent and is able to break down a complex idea into something much more simply consumed.

Don’t understand the blind hate that so many people are giving him based on his appearance. The dude wrote what is often referred to as the Bible of the red pill ffs

[–]LeastConsideration6 points7 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

These definitely seem like people we should all be taking advice from lol

[–]red_matrix5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Rollo’s videos aren’t the greatest, but his book, The Rational Male, is still bar none the best there is on the topic. It’s helped thousands of guys and really the only thing you need to read. Almost everything else in TRP is a rehash of his book. Have you read it?

[–]LeastConsideration0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I must admit that I haven't. I may check it out. I think there's a fine line between being red pilled and being angry that you can't get laid. It doesn't really discredit his ideas, but I just can't see this guy being my spiritual guide.

[–]Thunderbird933 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude I hear you 100%. I've been thinking like that for abit too

[–]someonesopinion69693 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

from my redpilled rage causing some fucked up fallouts, i would advise to think very carefully from what you take from these kinda people.

[–]FatmanO-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Do you know who he is? He is litteraly the founding father of The Red pill. You must be new and young.

[–]Thunderbird936 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Whats with this worship? He is just another man. Its like Ragnar Redbeard in Might is Right said, be skeptical of the "truth" and slow to accept what is considered as fact

[–]AlexFC101 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He’s the man that laid down many of the red pill truths. I understand being skeptical, but this isn’t a random clown with 0 credibility that we’re talking about. No worshipping going on here but he wrote The Rational Male and that lend him enough credibility to take him more seriously than some random red piller in the anger phase.

[–]FatmanO1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but, he does have a lot of experience. Like talking hunting advice from a veteran hunter. Altrough coach redpill is much more wiser.

[–]EdvardMunch 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy Link

I recall it being said once that if a woman was aware of their nature many would struggle with it.

And in my mind a large issue is with letting submissiveness always be seen as lesser, as oppressed. But many men know when some girl with ass tats once you to choke them out this is potentially her control over you in a manner on the surface that seems submissive. And it is submissive in its action but it has been granted sensitively through that girls request at her request, beyond how much that guy wants to risk cutting off oxygen to another human.

So today we face potentially, an epidemic of awareness and how roles are viewed and applauded throughout society. The woman's natural instincts are considered outdated, apart from the pack, even in support of the patriarchy at times if you wanna play the role of submissive woman.

If anything it seems natural for the stakes to become even higher. When you used to be able to hold frame when confronted by fear you now face shaming by the masses. I personally think its still a shit test. Women arent so much raving about personal independence as much as theyre also hunting and raising the stakes on who they top males are, the alphas. And if youre not you should know your place as a beta who provides and supports and submits to her frame.

Again it seems the biggest issue is how we view these roles. For an alpha male could submit to a beta role and only ever live it by personal choice, the illusion would be that his partner would have the power while he could leave anytime.

And this is why its all a hairy mess. Our realities are truly instinctual and learned projections about the future and past. If we had no memory storage in conscious awareness we would just be operating off instinct. No thought would go into getting someone pregnant, child support, marriage, abortion, it would all be something that may happen that is then life.

We have become such control freaks of our realities that many aren't even real now. The real truths about power and control are being buried beneath the interplay of surface conversation. We will likely eat each other like rats in a cage instead of working together to get out. Who controls the governance? Money. The ultra wealthy.

[–]Rugby11[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Our realities are truly instinctual and learned projections about the future and past. If we had no memory storage in conscious awareness we would just be operating off instinct. No thought would go into getting someone pregnant, child support, marriage, abortion, it would all be something that may happen that is then life.

We have become such control freaks of our realities that many aren't even real now. The real truths about power and control are being buried beneath the interplay of surface conversation. We will likely eat each other like rats in a cage instead of working together to get out. Who controls the governance? Money. The ultra wealthy.

Ultra Money... Porn seem has the same effect an a cultural context.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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