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Restore My Faith: A Heart-Broken Man Turns to The Blue Pill

April 20, 2016
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This poster has experienced something unfortunate, but common.

His GF who he cherished and loved, who seemed so sweet and kind, turned cold on him and cheated on him with her ex, a bad boy "abusive jerk" archetype. We all know the story, but what's interesting is that he's posting to TBP, a parody forum of TRP that talks shit about us and sends hatemail, and maintains that low SMV / pussyless males are should not try to use strategies to improve their SMV. He's asking them, "Guys, I'm feeling tempted to admit the Red Pill is real; I mean, my god, look at what I'm seeing before me. Please convince me to stay BP. Help me keep faith"

Read it here: https://archive.is/Xs6Yp

And some highlights:

"I'm numb right now, my fingers can barely type. Gf of 7 months (my first everything) left me for an ex-boyfriend whom she said she hated. This guy cheated and gaslighted her throughout the relationship so badly that she tried to overdose.

The last 6 months I've tried to be the best boyfriend, because I genuinely loved her from the bottom of my heart. I honestly thought that we were growing closer together because we were supportive of each other, healing from the past, etc...

"Turns out she doesn't give a shit. She explained to me sadly yesterday that she sees me more of a friend and that she misses her ex..

I was planning to surprise her next week for our 7-month anniversary with a homemade cookie cake.

Now, I'm not making fun of this guy. I don't really give a shit, TRP needs more subscribers like a teenage geek needs another pimple. If he wants to deny the rawness of his own life lesson, so be it. But I do want to focus on the idea of him returning to his BP brethren and asking them to "restore his faith."

Because that's really what it is. He has faith in a certain system, a religion if you will. More than a religion, it's a sense of mathematics that as a med school student fits in with his "work hard, do the right thing, and gradually accrue benefits and awards" type of thinking. He believes that if you are nice to women, you love them and cherish them and dedicate yourself to them, then that earns you something. That gets you their loyalty or at least decent behavior.

He believes in that sense of moral calculus like a capitalist believes in the invisible hand, or a weightlifter believes in the mathematical nature of caloric management + progressive overload. It just should work - it's written into the universe.

He gets this girl who's a alpha widow and he knows it, and she's really sweet with him. He falls way too deep in love way too quick; he's celebrating a 7 month anniversary by making a cake.

Now look - 7 months is too soon to be celebrating an anniversary, and celebrating "month"versaries is so incredibly beta, it's like saying "I baked you this to show you how glad I am you kept me around for a month."

I mean, you can imagine what this guy is like in bed.

By his own admission, he's made his life about pleasing her, and she seems so wonderful and unique. But of course, she's trickle truthing, she's texting / chatting with her ex, and then when he catches on, she says she feels NOTHING for the BF and dumps him for the ex. Just like that.

That shatters him. He's depressed; he says he is sobbing and can barely hold on. His whole world is wrecked.

She probably listened to some T Swift and rationalized her behavior as "well, me and my ex never go out of style. The med school guy is sweet and dependable but I don't need to be thinking about settling yet and I want to have fun with the cool guy." She isn't going through any pain, she's not losing sleep and trying to force herself to eat and go to work. She's not "just going through the motions."

She's A-OK. In fact, she probably gave OP a very doctored story - she's probably been fucking the ex and potentially others the whole time, not just towards the last few months.

This entire concept of a relationship - look at how it exists in his head in a completely different way than it does in hers.

THAT, gentleman, is what the BP is all about. The blue pill represents the fantasies you sell yourself, the created worlds that exist in your head alone, the systems of lies you repeat until they seem true.

He was solipsistic; he assumed that because within the confines of HIS mind there lived this great love and narrative surrounding the two of them, that surely that same world / story existed in her mind. That is real solipsism.

Now, when that gets challenged, as it did for me and for many of you, in many different yet similar ways, a man is put in a unique place. He's given a choice, although he often does not interpret the situation as a choice.

He can try to cling to his faith. Cling to the illusions and the indoctrinations in spite of what he's seen. He can try to deny that he just witnessed something deeply and systematically wrong with the "system of equations" that society was supposed to run by. He can recruit others (usually friends and family, but also internet echo-chamberists) to help him reach the conclusion that everything he thought WAS right, and she was just an anomaly.

"It was all her fault, not his, so no need to change. But at the same time, you can't blame her, she's a wonderful snowflake who's acting on her sexual agenda to be liberated and empowered, and you gotta support her decision, if you love her, you gotta want her to be happy."

It doesn't really make sense logically. It's just a way to pass around the blame and responsibility to nobody, and declare everyone free of sin, and begin fresh with nothing learned and nothing changed.

It's not logical at all, but it's kind. It feels nice, it feels like how you viewed the world as a child when you were a champion of good and your just reward was one quest away. It's a reassuring way to view the world, and although it does set you up for failure next time, you know you can count on the same excuse and rationalizations and support systems being there for you next time as well.

Or you can blame yourself. OP has already decided he doesn't want this. He doesn't want to think about what he could have done differently or how he can become more alpha to avoid getting cucked in the future. He also doesn't want to hear people insulting his GF.

In fact, when even TBP is criticizing his GF - that's right, even when the Portland of the internet is saying his GF is a dysfunctional, manipulative, alpha widowed chick - guess what he says. I kid you not, he edits his post with:

"Everyone's trying to tell me what a bitch my girlfriend was, but you know what? She wasn't, she was maybe one of the most understanding and kindest women I've ever met. And that's what makes this nauseatingly worse, that a woman like that would flatly tell me "I feel nothing but indifference when I'm with you" and then go sleep over at her ex's house the same evening."

This is a grade-A insight into the mentality of a cuckold. It's that pedestalization of a woman, combined with this kind of "Only I can judge her, she's so wonderful and kind and I don't know why she fucked other men behind my back and treated me like shit, but she's a good girl. I just want her back."

And you can see how much damage that's doing to OP. He's miserable, he's upset, he's lost. But he's decided that he only wants to have a crises of FAITH not a mental engagement with the issue and subsequent life vamp. He wants to use TBP like a dumped girl uses Ben and Jerry's rather than using TRP to actually start getting respect and great treatment from women.

What's sad is that a part of him wants to let go. A part of him is saying that maybe TRP is right. But he doesn't want to see where logically unravelling that thread takes him. He's afraid, he doesn't want to change. His whole identity is that he's a nice, stable, successful, well-adjusted guy. He has the potential to be free, but instead, he wants to be swallowed back into the fold. He'll be doomed to repeat this shattering experience until he actually loses his religion, and cannot be pulled back into the BP faith by your typical fantasies and promises.

The point here for you all to learn is to study your painful experiences. Learn from them. Identify where you are choosing to cling to a faith-based belief (not religious, I'm talking faith as in something you believe without real scientific or objective evidence), and ruthlessly assault that part of you, no matter how painful it might be. Find people who will tell you the truth, not tell you something that will make you feel better.

And lastly, understand that we may not make you feel better, but we can help you help yourself get laid. If you want to feel good about yourself, ask for TBP's help. If you want to get pussy and get respect - starting with SELF-respect - then we can help. See, I know OP because I have a lot of friends like him. For 25 years on this beautiful earth they think "well, it's more important to think of myself as a good person than it is to get laid a lot or have a sex-charged relationship where the girl actually enjoys worshipping my dick."

But one day, something interesting happens. They wake up extra hard. Maybe they see a girl that just screams to them. Maybe they get so fed up and tired that they just cannot live with themselves anymore for being so lame. They decide "I would rather win than be right."

"I would rather get laid than feel morally superior to other people."

And to OP, when you realize that, we'll be here. Get your ass on a workout plan and STFU until you're done skullfucking yourself with the sidebar, because homie, you need it.

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Title Restore My Faith: A Heart-Broken Man Turns to The Blue Pill
Author Thotwrecker
Upvotes 206
Comments 83
Date April 20, 2016 8:00 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/restore-my-faith-a-heart-broken-man-turns-to-the.57891
https://theredarchive.com/post/57891
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/4fmb5u/restore_my_faith_a_heartbroken_man_turns_to_the/
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[–]Modredpillschool[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (18 children) | Copy Link

The top comment on that thread really demonstrates the blue pill mentality too:

Your GF left you not because you're a "beta" (the amount of utter horseshit that comes out of TRP is staggering), but because she's a broken person. Her ex is a predator that knows exactly how to pull her strings, and she has such massive self esteem issues that she not only lets him pull her strings, she wants him to. It's awful, but she finds it familiar, and we all tend to drift towards what we're familiar with.

If we look into this, what they're saying is: it's not you, it's her. The circumstances in your life did not align properly for there to be a happy outcome. Wait around, maybe next time it will. Do absolutely nothing, learn absolutely nothing.

This is the hallmark of blue pill advice. When the central theme is that you are not an agent in your life, and that outcomes are not in your control. It sounds comforting until you extrapolate to the logical conclusion, which is that if nothing you do affects the outcome, then you should do nothing to attempt a better outcome.

Hugging her to death had nothing to do with it. When the next woman comes along, play it the same way!

Meanwhile, that "abusive" ex who is getting his dick wet and completely verifies red pill theory? Ignore it.

Ignore those who manage to get laid. They know nothing about getting laid. Do what you've always done, which so far is get dumped. It will work!

It's not that obvious in their fantasy speak, when they offload the blame to others. But the extrapolation makes no sense. It doesn't take a terribly critical mind to realize that's what's being said.

Even without TRP, you should be able to reason why that advice is shit.

[–]pennywise2103112 points113 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Now he can have his cake and fuck it too.

[–]body_massage_10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think Rihanna wrote a song about this.

[–]The-Ban-Hammer5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL. I'm sorry. This is the winning post.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If I knew you were cumming I'd a baked a cake, baked a cake. Bahahaha! Douche bag got what he deserved. Lesson learned who the fuck celebrates 7 month anniversaries and what real man bakes a damn cake?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Idk, there might be some alpha bakers. Gordon Ramsey maybe? Don't know if he bakes.

[–]longbowfosho0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You think Gordon is even remotely beta? Dude. That guy is the Alpha Chef

[–]Swallowed_the_pill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not about baking or any activity for that matter. You can be a ballet dancer and still be alpha. It's more about why you do it. Do you do it to prove to other people you are worthy or good? Do you do it to impress? Is it because you want autention? If you do an activity for any of those reasons you should most likely stop doing it.

[–]darkrood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that......gotta be the bottom of your relatinoship.

Or a nice frosting of a new one :D

[–]IVIunchies27 points28 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Just learned about rp and BP. If BP takes themselves seriously why would they call themselves tbp? It's like admitting they're choosing to live in a fantasy? Honestly I don't think I agree with this theory entirely, but it just doesn't seem to make sense for them to argue you are all deluded and then take up the blue pill name?

[–]riverraider6915 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the very beginning TBP was a parody subreddit, making fun of TRP but still friendly. I read it and occasionally commented. It was fun. Then it got taken over by SRS and ... well... here it is. I actually miss the humor.

[–]2IVIaskerade8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TBP likes to pretend they're just pointing and laughing, and that they aren't at all becoming personally defined by their opposition to TRP.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I don't understand your shock. Atheist routinely describe themselves as infidels. It's not uncommon for groups to adopt the derogatory terms used against them in a joking manner.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

well said mysogynist shitlord

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not exactly how it works ..

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From my perspective that is exactly how it works.

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

IDK, the Tumblrinaction sub does literally that as their flair.

[–]DforDeadpool4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If BP takes themselves seriously why would they call themselves tbp? It's like admitting they're choosing to live in a fantasy?

Hey, hey, hold your horses. It was the liberal, feminist and progressive thing to do.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like satanists calling themselves so just to spite christians

they don't actually worship satan

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet16 points17 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't get excited - it looks like trollbait to me.

If the guy really is in need of help, he knows where to find this place.

[–]prodigy2throw0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. I'm holding my breathe until I see more.

[–]2IVIaskerade0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

it looks like trollbait to me.

If it is, they've bitten hard.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not hard to froth up a cesspool in a middle of a hurricane.

[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they have. Tell me now you can't picture the exact types of people who would subscribe to that dumb place. The fact that they consider themselves morally and intellectually 'above' everyone else only sets them up for easier trolling.

[–]1TheJunkieMonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

99% this is trollbait bro. Check out the time the archive link was captured.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

BP: what have i done wrong ? 1- mindset (subconscious clue: nothing! stay still) -

TRP: what could i do better ? 1+ mindset (subconscious clue: a huge lot! keep moving)

These questions would logically be very close but they expose the toxic mentality in between. Someone who feel guilt and want to deny his share will take the first route. Someone who feel guilt (in trp, i believe it's self-directed) but accepts his loss will take the second.

Interestingly enough, most BP'ers take the first path. It's part of the narrative to feel yourself an unlucky, underdog kind of guy who could possible do no wrong. As a woman perceives this self-image of yours, she knows you have not half a single ball and will plan accordingly.

[–]_Ronaldo 11 points11 points [recovered] | Copy Link

One of the most impactful changes to my thinking TRP has given me is whenever I fuck up my first thought is "why did I fuck up and how can I do better".

Example: pumped to try to hit 225 on bench for the first time and aaaalmost got it. The old me would have hamstered that I got little sleep or my shoulder wasn't feeling 100%. But now I know all it means is that I have to train harder, tighten my diet, and give it time. And that's a powerful tool.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'll give you encouragement. 225 is one of those spots that I found pretty hard to get through. Once I got through it I exploded through it and went quickly to 265 then 315. I maxed out there. There is a particular pleasure in feeling the bar bend when you're lifting. Those days are long past and probably my max is more like 250 now.

But you will be in a place in the future where this hurdle of 225 becomes your comfortable weight for multiple reps.

You have the right attitude. You're challenging yourself and failure is giving you fuel for success. That's the best thing you can do for yourself mentally, out of everything possible.

[–]2IVIaskerade5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

225 is the mental barrier. It's where you're loading up two full-size plates on either side.

[–]1legedu1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Three plates is an incredible feeling. You can feel others in the gym looking at you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This sorts of fall onto the victimization of the current generation. People actually want to feel helpless, and feel that everything isn't under their control. Spoiler alert BP, everything in life is your fault. Once I accepted that everything is my fault, I know that I can improve my life, because I can act on my weakness. BP-ers' want to feel they're victims because they don't have to look inward to themselves, and do the uncomfortable thing, which is to improve themselves.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The fact that your archive link is just when the post was made makes me think it's a troll post by you.

The timestamp literally says "just now", and there are no votes.

I hope I'm mistaken.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope I'm mistaken.

Good catch, it is an alt account with only this posting. If it is OP, he's playing them like a Stradivarius. Excellent Deep Cover TRP game.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I linked it, it had 150 upvotes and like 100+ comments, many of whose were him responding. I think I just fucked up the link - go check it on TBP now.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Favorite comment.

TRP and similar philosophies at their core believe they can negotiate attraction.

Actually completely opposite.

Play enough dread game, pass enough shit tests, lift all day and you'll be rewarded with your unicorn girlfriend.

Unicorns don't exist, and none of those have to do with negotiating attraction.

It doesn't work that way. She made her choice, and there's nothing you can do about it.

At this point yes, but if he would have been lifting, fucking her properly and not being a pandeting bitch she would not have left.

What you have to keep in mind is, it wasn't about you. You admittedly did everything you could -

Except for what works.

you were kind and freely gave love to this girl who desperately needed it.

Exactly

Which is awesome, good for you!

Feels over reals.

It was about her. She didn't feel comfortable accepting the love you gave and chose to return to something familiar that she understood.

Understood? You mean was attracted to

It's her life and her decision. You too have a life you can go out and live, so do it!

Great advice, bitches aint shit. Goals over girls.

Hope things get better for you. Just avoid any Morpheuses offering you colored pills in the meantime.

Because it is better to live in a fantasy so long ad you can claim a moral highground.

Others are saying it's not his fault she went back into the cycle of abuse. Ok, so what is it about the abusers which makes them able to have women wrapped around their fingers so? Couldn't there be something about their behaviors which can be examined and used without taking it to an extreme which can be called abuse?

But that really gets into the trp's biggest fault, it's unwillingness to allow discussion on morality.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, attraction is not a choice.

And about morality, you can discuss it here, you just can't be a moral fag about it.

For example, if I want to type up a logical argument on why it's beneficial for men to follow the moral idea of "don't fuck married / LTR'd up girls" then I believe that would be permitted if I approached it from a "this is why you'll reap more benefits in the long term if you do it". If I approach it from a "you should do this because.. well... it's just RIGHT!" then that's where it will - and should IMO - get modchopped.

[–]HYPERGAMY_UPPERCUT10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Med Student...

I'd bet the dope farm that she'll be hitting him up no sooner than he starts his residency. Hopefully he's a little wiser by then.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this lesson is potentially the best thing that ever happened to him if he's willing to learn

[–]LasherDeviance0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

He's the kind of guy that would fall in love with cancer patients.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The-fault-in-our-stars ass nigga lmaooo.

[–]2IVIaskerade1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hopefully he's a little wiser by then.

Yeah, there's plenty of nurses available for the residents' use.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Actions reveal preferences. If she dated an abusive guy before, she likes getting abused. Trust her actions.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

these girls always paint half the picture anyway. They talk about what an asshole the guy was to the new guy because they don't want the new guy to think of the old guy as competition. Meanwhile when they're fucking the new guy they're thinking about how the old guy did it better.

[–]Il1283 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Also I guarantee you she loves rough sex.

[–]2IVIaskerade4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You could guarantee that by virtue of her having a vagina.

[–]sir_Preacher5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Everyone's trying to tell me what a bitch my girlfriend was, but you know what? She wasn't, she was maybe one of the most understanding and kindest women I've ever met. And that's what makes this nauseatingly worse, that a woman like that would flatly tell me "I feel nothing but indifference when I'm with you" and then go sleep over at her ex's house the same evening."

Some people need to ''die'' more than once before they can be awakened from their blue pill grave.

It will take maybe one or two more devastating heartbreaks from ''sweeter and more understanding girls'' before this guy can swallow the redpill.

I ''died'' more that once before I was able to fully swallow the pill.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, you sort of have to understand that these are deluded, brainwashed kids at the end of the day. Some lessons just have to beat you over the head multiple times before you finally wake up and smell the coffee.

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[–]eddiae3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

may chad be within you my child

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That guy, when I read this fucking pussified bullshit of holding her for 40 minutes while she cried and telling her that he can be strong enough to carry 50% of her weight if she will carry the other half... I lost my mind.

I wanted to stick a knife in my brain and give myself a lobotomy to get that memory out of my fucking head, that someone would say that in the real world. This is grade A hollywood bullshit. That guy was fucking masturbating in his own head over his fucking nobility.

And that shows you what nobility gets you. She doesn't want some asshole holding her for 40 minutes while she cries and saying he's strong enough to carry half her load. She just wants to be near someone who feels like a rock and isn't going to be a huge massive pussy when she throws a fit.

This kind of thing encourages her to throw these fucking fits because it gives her a lot of temporary attention but ultimately she judges such a man as being a weak ass fucking loser not worthy of her respect.

This guy held this bitch for 40 minutes while she sobbed and her return was that she felt indifference. She felt dead with this guy.

He is a tampon.

And he turns to the blue pill to tell him that it's OK, Jesus loves him, just keep the faith. This is a one time occurrence. Because this girl is broken. It's one time until the next time. The fact it happened for everyone to some degree doesn't matter. It's just one time. Everything is OK.

Keep being a massive fucking douchebag and it will all work out.

[–]imadazhell3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like another unicorn galloped out of the corral.

[–]CrodudeClassic4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeesh. That was a rough read, but I feel for him, seeing as I was that guy in high school. The title was a bit of a giveaway, but had I not read that "The last 6 months I tried to be the best boyfriend.." would have been my first red flag. OP, if you're reading this: next time strive to replace that line with "tried to be the best person I could be."

[–]Chinny4daWinny7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit that makes a hell of a lot more sense when you spell it out like that.

TRP tells you to work on improving yourself so that at the end of the day the possible outcomes are all positive:

  • She leaves you for X reason but it doesn't matter because you were more valuable and can replace her.

  • You decide to leave her because you feel you can do better/you don't like the way she's behaving.

  • She sees your improvement and decides to up her game also. She might even ask you for advice or decide to follow your activities as to improve herself (eating better, going to the gym).

No matter what the end game, you end up with the better deal.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the possible outcomes are all positive

Excellent insight; it's nice to see someone really learning TRP's lessons.

[–]CrodudeClassic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's along the lines I was thinking, but much better said. I believe this is a prime example of the skewed viewpoint guys have these days in terms of relationships. Just because you found a girl willing to call herself your girlfriend does NOT mean you stop working out, eating healthy, etc. etc.

The most important lesson TRP has taught me is that self improvement should be a permanent life change, not a temporary one you strive for until you find "the one," or get a good job or something similar.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He thinks he's a woman. He wants a woman to be that way with him. So he's all confused and doesn't yet realize that women want you to be a man. And they are all confused about it because of the blue pill lies.

Wake up guy. Your girl wants a man, and you really do want a woman.

[–]big_foam_shocker3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing makes a girl's pussy wet like baking her a cookie cake on your 7 month anniversary. This guy is a fucking boss.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

From the comments:

Her ex is a predator that knows exactly how to pull her strings, and she has such massive self esteem issues that she not only lets him pull her strings, she wants him to.

You know, one of those predators that preys on people by giving them what they want.

And if you had gaslighted her like her ex did, maybe you could have terrified and manipulated her into remaining your girlfriend.

"TRP theories maybe would have worked, and she would have chosen you, but that wouldn't be her fault, because women aren't responsible for their actions."

It's like they don't even realize they're confirming TRP themselves.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You know, one of those predators that preys on people by giving them what they want.

Which in this case was Alpha dick, as opposed to some fat/scrawny kid's shrimpdick which he could never get up.

[–]KainXhun2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I admit.

As soon as I've read your archived post I went to the actual post to see the comments, I thought maybe I could give a comment that would make this guy see the truth, that maybe would bring him understanding.

Then I've read the comments, and that again proved "You can't make someone swallow the pill, they must do it themselves"

[–]scromboidfish 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I used to think that it was the rising feminist agenda, and society's pandering to the meek, that was responsible for the abundance of beta males in the world. But now, I am more of the opinion, that men have had it good for so long, that many have become soft retarded pieces of shit.

For those of you who scream for a return to a patriarchal existence, fuck all of you. It was a system that allowed blue pill men to exist unchallenged. The archaic system that is marriage, is in my opinion, a blue pill construct, that allows weak men to retain a bitch.

The bitches, eyeing the opportunity, turned this against us, creating the perversely incentivized system that we are currently beholden to.

Fuck him in blue pill ass!

Let the bitches have the world.

So long as I have what they need, I'll be the one who is winning!!!

As our dear compadre' pennywise2103 put it..."Now we can have his cake and fuck it too!"

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The main purpose of marriage is raising children. If you abolish the traditional family you are abolishing society itself.

You know who will replace your society? Other societies that still hold on traditional values.

wink wink muslim communities

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Precisely. We say enjoy the decline, but really it is just going by the Stoic principle that you have to distinguish between what is within your control and what is not, and not concern yourself with what is not in your control. We can't save Western society, I highly doubt that it is saveable at this point. So, we do what we must, and master the skills and attitudes that allow us to do well personally even in such times. It is still a decline, though. When barbarians overrun civilizations so much is lost. Imagine what happens when muslims take control of Europe, with their attitudes towards representational art, apart from anything else. The wealth of culture in the Louvre, the Uffizi, the Prado, the National Portrait Gallery, etc, how much of it will be treated like the museums in Baghdad, or Palmyra?

[–]dmystery1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great analysis of his post OP. It really hit a few points home regarding the mindset I was in during my first relationship and reinforces the new viewpoint from which I plan to live my university life.

On a seperate point, you touched on OP being a med school student and thus having BP tendencies. I think you've touched on something bigger there. So many BP Doctors not wanting to tell Patients hard truths regarding self-inflicted conditions because of feelz.

Situations like the obesity crisis in the Western hemisphere are worsening because doctors don't want to tell people the truth (i.e. "your misery is of your own doing") for fear of looking bad. Even as a last resort Doctors aren't using the best medicine: a cold hard sharp dose of reality.

TRP places agency back into our own hands; if *we* are responsible for our past failures then *we* can be responsible for our future successes too. If a patient ate and lazed their way into obesity, a patient can diet and exericise their way out too. If OP BPed his way into this mess, he can RP his way out.

I wish his ex had been harsher on him for his sake.

[–]PissedPajamas1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope he sees himself in this post like a reflection, and then proceeds to spit on it like a true bluepiller.

[–]1TheJunkieMonk1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My gut tells me this might be fake. The archive link says it was posted "Just now", so you were there at the exact moment when the guy posted it?

Also, the account was created like.. 24 hours ago.

Edit: This is now way means that things like these do not happen, something similar happened to me which lead me here and now I breathe red, but the post archived here seems pretty fake.

[–]LasherDeviance0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It might be. But the fact still remains that this is a perfect blue pill example if I have ever saw one.

[–]CUNTRY1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Skullfuck yourself with the sidebar"

LOL.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He already knows about this forum. He said that he posted first in some other forum and people PMed him links to TRP.

[–]nimrodx 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy Link

He made a mistake asking his question in that sub (I'd like to think the purple pill would be a good middle ground). I was a late bloomer just like this guy and made similar mistakes. Hopefully he reads your reply and something clicks.

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[–]dking1680 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ironic part is that if he accepts TRP and becomes alpha and asserts his dominance, she would be crawling back apologizing and begging to jump on his dick.

[–]Gawernator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

God that was so pathetic to read through on "TBP"

[–]NotUpToAnythingGood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP doesn't require that he stop being that nice, stable, successful, well-adjusted guy. It just requires that he own his shit, stand up for himself, and be a damn man.

[–]1PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

TBP is probably the biggest personafication of loser sluts and neck bears you could find. These people can't see past their emotional haze. Every single point raised in that sub is stupid and having an argument with any of them makes me think I'm talking to a woman- which is probably true.

It's funny to. TRP no matter your outlook has some sort of objective of self improvement and betterment of life. TBP is nothing but pointless bitching and whining. One sub is a worthless time sink while the other is the opposite.

[–]NeoreactionSafe-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There is an old saying:

"He was wearing Rose Colored Glasses."

...the idea that one can be fooling oneself and presenting a rosy picture that "only you can see" is a very old one that is very human.

Think of the Garden of Eden metaphor:

  • Adam and Eve in the garden... life in innocence and paradise.

  • Snake creates rosy picture of how reality will function based on a proposed action.

  • Action taken, but the mythology is exposed as being invalid.

  • Red Pill wisdom gained as the first Game in human history is exposed as a lie.

 

[–]1TheJunkieMonk0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Gimme some of watchu smokin bro. Just kidding.

I really like your metaphorical stuff like this comment right here.

[–]NeoreactionSafe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Game is a Rubik's Cube... you spin it around a million different ways.

Magic is always creating new illusions... never get boring.

 

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[–]shagoth2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

TRP does already. The very idea of plate spinning is polygamy as it fits within an alpha framework. TRP accepts female hypergamy which is polygamy within the female mental framework. Polygamy that doesn't accommodate these fundamental concepts is just a Blue Pill rationalization fantasy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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