Stoic Meditations And The Internalization Of A Masculine Frame

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-03-24T09:56:43+00:00

My fucking god! This is the best post I've ever read on here.

This is like, Red Pill on crack. Just cut down to the essentials, awesomely explained, and put in a process you can shoot right into the vein.

Your included links round this out to required reading, in my opinion.

The idea of not trying to control or react to anything outside of us is huge. I think too many guys are still stuck at trying to control shit outside of them. 'How do I get her to go out with me?' 'How do I avoid rejection?', etc. 'How do I pull her into my frame', type stuff.

This (with the links) shows that one's power should only ever be focused within oneself. The ability to hold YOU, regardless of outside things.

You've given a great explanation of why mindfulness meditation helps the process. The internalization.

Don't give your power away.

This is sidebar worthy.

inf0rmme · 2019-03-24T08:51:02+00:00

Great read, I’m relatively new and I’m trying to wrap my head around the theory of TRP and coupled with your links this is the most I’ve understood how to internalise the ideas.

In regards to frame, the other day I was on a coach and a girl was sat in front, from boarding I had noticed she was fairly cute. I attempted to get her number, on the basis that I could try and I wasn’t actually fussed if I did get the number or not, I was focused on the attempt. Is that maintaining frame?

bulletproof0616 · 2019-03-24T09:27:15+00:00

David Goggins. His speeches and his book all about standing boldly in the face of adversity and always choosing the hardest path possible to callous your mind (build an unbreakable frame)

tb0n · 2019-03-24T15:37:02+00:00

I have been practicing stoicism for about six months now and it has had a profound impact on frame. Before stoicism, trying to demonstrate a strong frame was an exercise of trying to remind myself to "be alpha" or that "I am enough" whenever I felt anxiety come up in conversations with women and other people.

Stoicism teaches you that your negative emotional reactions are un-constructive; that you should be indifferent to the opinions of others; and that you are supposed to have compassion for others, as they too are humans struggling.

The end result of that in a social conservation is that if someone challenges something you say, you shrug your shoulders; you don't need to defend yourself and you don't have an incentive to lash out at the other person. In fact, one major tenet of stoicism is to respond to insults with humor such as "you're right, and you don't know the half of it." If you think about it, that is just another way of saying "agree and amplify."

Frame is just one tiny way that stoicism has helped me though. The whole philosophy is wonderful and has applications to every part of my day. It has made me much happier and more satisfied with my life, while also helping to increase my SMV.

Hyperf0cus · 2019-03-24T12:20:49+00:00

This is absolutely on point. You've put the way I've been thinking and acting lately, into words. I am feeling relieved and confirmed for the frame I've build up during the last weeks.

It is so wonderful to see and feel how this works. As of today I am more happy than ever depite having a hard time through deep depression with suicide thoughts not long ago.

Having a strong focus while lifting and executing your exercises helps so dramatically - you do not owe other people your attention. You are the center of origin and should act accordingly.

I've internalized the center of origin aspect into my daily life this year and I am feeling more alive than ever.

randomTATRP · 2019-03-24T12:12:44+00:00

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Ryu-Hayabusa · 2019-03-24T13:19:02+00:00

Well said sir this help dearly!

2019-03-24T18:37:34+00:00

APA-Accredited universities are churning out toxic feminists from undergrad and grad psychology programs. These shills then go out and create this "toxic masculinity" diorama by pretty much being unbearable and intolerant.

centaursg · 2019-03-24T19:11:42+00:00

Great post. I have chosen ,many a times , to look at things from stoic perspective but often I get emotional , lose frame , become a victim to the instant gratification..this post definitely helps to be mindful about my emotions and my actions

chrisname · 2019-03-24T17:09:21+00:00

I think you misunderstood the article. For example, they aren’t using stoicism in the classical sense to refer to the school of philosophy, but in the common sense of not displaying any emotion at all. They even say stoicism is good when it is used to face down a difficult situation, but bad when it causes the person to deny having any feelings at all. I don’t really see how you can disagree that that is harmful. Men on this sub will say “talk about your feelings with other men, not women” and advise you not to suppress your feelings. The APA is obviously not going to advise men to keep their feelings from women (which we should) but that doesn’t mean they’re saying stoicism and masculinity are wrong.

I honestly didn’t find anything particularly bad in this article (which was surprising). They don’t say aggression (in the sense of pursuing one’s objectives even when competing with the objectives of others) is bad, they say violence is bad. Idk how you can disagree with that, either, except to say that violence is good when it prevents more violence (or when it’s consensual between all affected parties).

Heremhd · 2019-03-24T21:50:50+00:00

Well said I wasn’t sure what frame was but you have helped me I believe frame is just serving your own purposes the way you want to. To stay in frame is to be able to control how you react .

newacc4newlife · 2019-03-27T18:31:39+00:00

Thanks for this one, good read

I believe your description should be enough for a person new to the concept or looking for a more detailed explanation of frame to start contemplating the ways to build it on their own. For if this one doesn't spark the desire to live in their own way, doing what they want then no guide will help

Managicall · 2019-03-24T15:34:18+00:00

stoicism, competitiveness, dominance and aggression.

The only problem with those books is the soft retranslated global language lacking the full power of a native English tongue.

stoicism: deadened sensation

competitiveness: rage quitting

dominance: friendly fire

aggressiveness: all or nothing

NormalAndy · 2019-03-25T09:42:34+00:00

Great post. Thanks.

Funny- looking back, I don't think that I was ever angry about hypergamy. I was angry that I had allowed myself to be duped by the lie that it didn't exist.

It would be nice if there was an easy way but these days I welcome the fact that there isn't. All meningful growth is painful Sisyphus is happy.

Blenor · 2019-03-25T17:38:30+00:00

Serious question, how aren't you sick all the time when you're taking cold showers everyday?

Son0fMan · 2019-03-29T03:52:12+00:00

Adding a note on meditation here from a zen buddhist perspective...

Mindfulness based meditation is all about awareness, I agree. However, the ironic, and some would even suggest mystical, thing about it is change occurs only when you are bringing a nonjudgemental awareness to your thought patterns and feelings. You will find that judging yourself for 'beta thoughts' or even attempting to 'think alpha' is counterproductive. Once you get particularly adept at achieving a truly meditative state you'll find that your mind wanders to all sorts of things and you're kind of just along for the ride, however these thoughts will have a marginally reduced effect on you.

On an almost completely separate note, through meditation and mindfulness I am developing a philosophy about the self and free will. A quick rundown would be that your subconscious aka your instinct is actually in control, making decisions on the fly. Your limbic system aka your emotions are actually the commentator. They work in conjuction with the observer aka your conscious mind.

Example: I need energy so my subconscious is directed towards getting food and makes my stomach growl. My limbic system makes me start feeling very faint anxious/excitement about the concept of getting food while amost simultaneously I am consciously thinking," Man I'd like some tacos right now."

adeptintact · 2019-03-25T18:54:09+00:00

I had recently started meditating, but an unintended consequence is your third eye will open. When it does, you may start hearing and seeing things in the 4th dimension that can be interpreted as ghosts. From a Christian perspective, this can make you more susceptible to demons attacking you. This is why Christianity forbids this type of meditation where you clear and focus your mind. I believe meditation does help, but this consequence is something to consider. I've stopped meditating as a result.

yottaminx · 2019-03-25T09:22:15+00:00

I am glad you retards got banned. Get a life! get out of your parent's basement

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