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The Great Trad Con, and How Not to Get Conned.

March 2, 2018

By this time, the only men who don't realize that marriage has mutated into something ugly are the truly stupid, or the delusionally hopeful. Since we are not Captain Save-A-Bro, either, we're not interested in preaching on streetcorners, trying to save idiots from themselves.

But there is a segment of the more clueful who are still making a serious mistake: They agree that Marriage 2.0 is a trap, but they want Marriage 1.0 back.

I don't know if it's too many Jordan Petersen videos, or just a yearning for unicorns that they know they won't find, but still believe once existed, but these guys want the 1950s back, despite having not been alive then, and only having ever read about that era through its own propaganda, or that of its fat, purple-haired detractors.

There's a temptation to think that, if only we could defeat the evvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiil feminism, that ruined everything, we could roll the clock back to an era where everything was easy, you could pluck a unicorn off the unicorn tree, and find happiness (at least sexual happiness) without having to think, struggle, build value, or reinvent yourself.

Well, no.

(Oh, here Whisper goes again, having a go at the tradcons yet again. What did they ever do to him? What the hell is his problem with the whole business, anyway?)

It's time we answered that question once and for all.

There's two simple reasons:

  1. You can't bring Marriage 1.0 back.
    Neither you, nor the secular tradcons, nor the Jesus freaks, nor all of you together, can resurrect this dead institution. Oh, you could defeat feminism. Feminism isn't scary. Hell, all you have to do for that is wait, and watch feminism defeat itself. But feminism didn't kill Marriage 1.0 in the first place. The information economy did.

  2. Marriage 1.0 sucked for men, anyway.
    Now, we can talk about how and why it sucked, and we will in a minute. But we don't need to know how it sucked to know that it sucked. All we need to know is that men agreed to destroy it for the (mostly false) promise of a little hairy free-love snatch.

    Men saw it, it was available to them, they were intimately aware of what it offered, they watched their parents do it, and they chose column b. They didn't want it.

End of debate. But we can talk about why they made this choice, and why, for the same reasons, what modern tradcons are offering you is a shit sandwich on really good bread.

  1. Tradcon women are not submissive to you. They are submissive to the rules.
    Now, during the era of Marriage 0.1, this wasn't really a significant difference, because the rule was "Do what your husband tells you", and if one of your wives was disobedient, you just went and cut yourself a willow switch, and fixed the problem. And there was much rejoicing.
    But Marriage 1.0 wasn't like that. The rules didn't say "Obey your husband" anymore. They said "Husband must do A, B, and C. Wife must do X, Y, and Z, and must obey husband... unleeeeesssssss he neglects her or his order isn't godly and righteous.".
    And who, exactly, decides if he has been neglectful, or his instructions are bad? Why, she does, of course!
    That tradcon girl ain't gonna obey you, Mr. Alpha Male Badass Person. Even if you do put a ring on it. She's going to obey some guy in a big "I talk to Jesus" hat, who doesn't really care what your priorities are because his idea of a relationship is five minutes alone with that hot altar boy. She's only going to obey you if and when she feels like it.
    And obedience when you feel like it isn't obedience at all... it's bdsm-flavoured doing-whatever-the-fuck-you-want.
    And what consequences can you impose if she does shit you don't like? Funny you should ask....

  2. A Captain who cannot fire a bad First Mate without losing his crew and half his ship is no Captain at all.
    Now, no-fault divorce didn't exist yet in Marriage 1.0, so she could actually be punished for breaking hat-guy's rules. She cheated on you, she got nothing, because hat-guy told her not to cheat. But what about shit you want? Well, that Marriage 0.1 willow switch is right out, because hat-guy told you not to. So's dread game, because that's infidelity, which hat-guy doesn't like. And if you decide you need to fire your first mate, because she won't obey the captain, then she gets all the crew and at least half the ship.
    Get the picture? You ain't the Captain, bro. Hat-guy is the Captain. The First Mate is you.

  3. You are expected to surrender a large part of your sexual imperative for... what, exactly?
    You're genetically programmed to seek out variety. Can't do that anymore, because it's against hat-guy's rules. Supposedly what you get in exchange is love, support, reliable sex, etc. Except hat-guy doesn't mandate those. Perhaps there's some lip service to a wife's "duties", but how are they enforced? What if she'll only have sex with you once every two weeks? Every month? No, you haven't escaped the necessity for running game. You're still in the sexual marketplace. Except now she has a monopoly.
    And that's after marriage. Before it, well, don't you dare expect to test-drive a car before you buy it. Hat-guy doesn't like that, and he's the Captain.

  4. Gotta pay to play. And pay. And pay. And pay.
    Do you really need this explained? Picture the first girl you had sex with. Remember what she was like. Remember what the sex was like. Wanna bankroll her for life, so you can have that when she feels like it?

Now you get the picture. Marriage 1.0 is better than Marriage 2.0 in the same way that a kick in the crotch is better than being stabbed. Marriage Anything.0 is for losers who can't get laid without it, and men so enslaved by their own oxytocin and protective instincts that they would take huge risks with no reward other than seeing her smile.

Don't do it.

Learn game.

And if you want to let her have an LTR, make her earn it, and make sure you can kick her to the curb with zero cost the moment she stops making it worth your while.

Because you're not allowed to give your wife a thrashing anymore. Your only power is the power to walk away. Never surrender it to anyone.

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Title The Great Trad Con, and How Not to Get Conned.
Author Whisper
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Date March 2, 2018 9:13 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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