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The Purple Pill debate is not a debate

May 23, 2014
168 upvotes

I've been reading through PPD and it really pisses me off how self righteous BPers really fucking are. They carry the typical snarky, self obsessed, solipsistic bullshit into every thread and call it a "debate" when all they do is use typical redditor responses like "You can't be serious. omg, wow"...and think they've proven something. Seriously, just take a look at any debate in that sub and it's 1/2 RP posters, stating their opinions are backing them up with experiences and examples to support their claims, and 1/2 BP'ers making shallow, snarky, sarcastic remarks.

To me, this highlights how willful ignorance is a plague in our society. It's infectious, and to the weak minded, Blue Pill ideology is the default. It's really fucking horrifying if you think about it. We all came here because we knew something was off our entire lives, we just hadn't put it into words. I believe the BPers are both emasculated and basically live in fear of angering their feminist overlords, and it sickens me.

Here's a few examples of a "discussion" going on there:

RP man:

Almost all of the reasons a relationship may stagnate can be fixed with subtle-to-extreme dread game. A harem is an active dread that can work quite well. When a woman does not think she has control over a man, she will try harder and stay interested longer. It is when she thinks she is his only option that she will lose interest/respect. But you know, your argument is pretty good too.

BP Response:

Or, you know, talking about your problems like you're two fucking grown ups.

Another example:

RP man:

Preselection benefits a man who is successful with other women. A harem may be a good long-term strategy because each woman knows her man has other options, keeping them as interested long-term as he is. It may actually be a superior form of relationship. Why lie about it when telling the truth gets you points?

BP response:

lol you've got to be kidding me.

GOLLY, THEM'S SOME GOOD DEBATIN' SKILLS!

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Title The Purple Pill debate is not a debate
Author jobs33ker
Upvotes 168
Comments 119
Date May 23, 2014 10:54 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–][deleted] 131 points132 points  (38 children) | Copy Link

Blue pillers are the polar opposite of red pillers. These people you are arguing are the typical rad fem tumblr bloggers. For them winning an argument isn't about finding the truth its avout having the last word.

Typical PPD discussion.

Rp: women are different to men

Bp: spouting off your biotroofs

Rp: not relevant to discussion

Bp: there's no scientific evidence

Rp: gives science article

Bp: this is pseudo pop science, it isn't real science.

Rp: fine so you're saying men and women are the same?

Bp: I didn't say anything, you made a claim the burden of proof is on you

Rp: fine, what is your claim then?

Bp: um, the blue pill doesn't have a theory, we are a satire subreddit just made to laugh at you.

Typical hamstering, they've created a position to attack red pill theory without ever having to defend their own beliefs because they're just a satire sub.

[–][deleted] 42 points43 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they actually spend hours of their time getting mad at us and spitting venom is hilarious.

I think we should support them, don't help the white knight out of its hole. Letting them stay betas will only make it easier for us to compete with them.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Increasingly I'm coming to have thoughts like this about a lot of things. It used to be one of the most important things to me to help others. Then the real world taught me that most people don't want your help and that often the ones who do will take it and then turn around and screw you over for it. Then I learned that almost nobody out there gives enough of a shit to really help me when the chips are down for me. Now I just feel like, I'm willing to help those who are good people who're willing to learn and work hard. Everyone else can go fuck themselves.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Part of being successful, not with women but in life, is being the person that people want to use. Part is knowing which people you should let use you, and which people you should use in return. Part is knowing that people who use you, but are of no use to you are worth cutting contact with.

Being used is a terrible term, but it's simple, to the point and pretty self explanatory. I think a better term would be an unwritten contract for an upcoming trade of an unknown nature. Your time, friendship and career/social network are all investments. Invest time in learning skills, and with family/girlfriends and solid friends, not just in people that can help you now, people who can help you in the future as well. These people aren't just your friends, they're also your lifeline to new jobs or possibly a nice hiring bonus.

When someone takes advantage of you, don't take it personally. They're doing what's best for themselves. If you're worth taking advantage of, you're worth keeping around. If they can help you but don't, cut them off from whatever you have that they want to take advantage of. It's the same as any redpill relationship, right down to dread game, the only difference is you're likely to be dealing with men and honour means something to them.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One addendum: you can't rely on gratitude. You have to invest them in your positive outcomes for them to care and to help (48 Laws).

[–]ScannerSloppy9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's worse than that. People will take your help, and then rewrite history. They will act like they did it all themselves. The reason feminist/socialist society has shifted so hard from marriage and charity to child support and welfare is because women can't stand to give credit to the people they depend on. Being dependent on a husband meaning acknowledging that he voluntarily busts his ass at a job to support you; why do that when you can take his child support and still boast of being an "independent woman"? It's no different than the way American social services used to be handled by churches (and still are, in many other countries). Poor people used to have to humble themselves enough to ask for help; now they strut into the welfare office, leave with an EBT card and never think about where the money comes from. Poor people used to stay loyal to a church forever, because they could remember hard times when the church helped them get by. Now they stay loyal to the Democrat party for the same reason- what's missing in translation is gratitude, and the recognition that someone else worked for the money.

[–]2RedPill4LYF-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo. I help the people who are willing to help themselves.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Important to know. If they are smart enough to realize that to make it in this world, you need help from those better than you, if they are this intelligent to begin with, they have a chance of being manipulative as well.

[–]1raceAround1261 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

gh PPD and it really pisses me off how self righteous BPers really fucking are. They carry the typical snarky, self obsess

Just take solace in the fact that, last night, you probably fucked a girl that they would never get in a 1000 years of bluepilling.

I know, I've lived on Blue Pill Road most of my life!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No competition

They don't fight when you steal their girls

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that they actually spend hours of their time getting mad at us and spitting venom is hilarious.

Meanwhile we're constantly improving ourselves while they live in their own PC reality. I don't feel as angry as I used to towards them. Now I pity them

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

One need only peruse my recent comment history to behold the barrage of downvotes I received for daring to rear my disgusting red pill leaning head in their sub.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Each downvote is a badge of honor as it represents another upset feminist.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Imaginary Internet points. They mean nothing to a self-contained man; who needs the validation of others as found on Reddit? If my dad or my mentor validates me, then that is meaningful, but I could give a fuck about karma.

That said, I do up and downvote others as a means to improve the forum.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

to be fair, a fair amount of RP is pseudo/bad science and there are more reputable papers disproving some of the theories posted here. some RP'ers tend to take any blog post or pop science website as irrefutable fact - this stance has been spreading on TRP lately, reducing the quality of information posted here.

[–]Offensive_Brute6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem with the science and pseudoscience for and against trp is that it doesn't really matter. Results is results no matter what nerds write on paper.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

'the rational animal' book details nicely why it's helpful to understand the psychology behind the results but 'what cho readin' for?' as bill hicks would say.

[–]ScannerSloppy8 points9 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, you should mention the specific pseudoscience articles you take issue with, instead of just generalizing. To be fair, you should actually post these "reputable papers" disproving TRP, instead of just casually claiming that they're out there somewhere. All across Reddit, there are some people who take blogs and pop science as irrefutable fact. This is why we have down-votes and comment threads- if you can refute what these hypothetical straw men claim is irrefutable, do so in the comments section.

[–]remember130 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that PPD is a way to introduce people to TRP ideas.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How it should go: "There's no scientific evidence"

Rp: "well I have a dick but it sounds to me like you might have a vagina. In you're case you're probably right, maybe there isn't a difference."

[–]Jalil343-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too true

[–]oldbluebox-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

The fact that men and women are different and also have different desires/standards/roles really pisses some people off.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan50 points51 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I remember reading somewhere that some of the mods of that sub are also mods at r/thebluepill and SRS. PPD is a way to bait RPers out of here so they can be ridiculed. It's like playing football when the refs have money riding on the other team. Steer clear.

[–]robesta8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The mods at PPD are fair. I've pushed the limit several times and they've been fair.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan21 points22 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

They're being "fair" because they're trying to keep you posting there. They want you to "push the limit" because they want to put TRP "on display" for their own entertainment. I'm telling you, there is no "win" to be had there, it's run by blue pill sympathizers.

[–]robesta6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll buy that......there's no win there. It's mental masturbation. I enjoy a good argument tho.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

For it to be a reasonable debate forum there should at least be a moderator from the red pill side. Instead, it's all blue pill / "purple" pill, with a clear absence of red.

[–]cuittler-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

alphabetamod is either red or red-leaning purple based off their posts

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's not red. He has never been a regular here.

[–]2RedPill4LYF-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This.

[–]elchoma901 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

fuck. what. the. fuck. r/TheBluePill is a thing... I just spent 10 minutes on there... Where are they getting all these silly ideas? Look at all the shit I found in 10 minutes there:

Both my father and my older brother are what RedPill would call alphas. My older brother raped me when I was 9 to establish dominance which he doesn't forget to è mind me of every time we meet, and my father is an alcoholic asshole what has no friends because of how he treats everyone.

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Redpillers construct an elaborate fantasy world to demonize the women who, in their eyes, are inferior beings who unjustly denied them the sex they are entitled to, and create a strategy to essentially do exactly the opposite of everything they were doing in order to take back the sex they feel they deserve.

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This honestly is the worst possible outcome of the red pill's hate rhetoric. Unstable individuals like this one are the ones being fed and empowered there. If the admins have a lick of sense they'll get that filth off this site asap. It's only a matter of time before one of them does something like this and gets traced right back to /r/theredpill.

I had to gtfo too many hamsters

[–]still_very_alive0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know what you mean. It's something many here go through when they first hear of TBP. Don't bother trying to reason with them though.

[–]elchoma900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They didn't let me. I asked them to show me where in this sub they've seen this shit and I got banned

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[–]ScannerSloppy10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Were you trying to write "blue Pillers" and it was autocorrected to "blue ballers"? If this isn't already a thing, all of TRP should stop saying "blue Pillers" and call them "blue ballers" instead!

[–]2RedPill4LYF54 points55 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Don't take blue pillers seriously. They are deliberately trolls. It has been proven time and again. There is no reasoning with a troll because trolls do not abide by logic. No matter what you say or do, they will not go away or concede to any points you make. This is yet another battle that can only be won by not playing. Ignore the trolls.

Do not feed the hamsters.

-edit- Inserted visual aid.

[–]RPthrowaway12318 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That hamster is much cuter than the hamsters we usually have to deal with

[–]jobs33ker[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I understand this, but I was under the impression that PPD is a place to actually engage in civil debate (lol) with people who disagree with our philosophy. I guess I'm a fucktard for even thinking for a second that white knights and feminist fatties are even capable of doing such a thing.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Read TBP sidebar, their entire existence is to troll TRP. You don't even know if they actually believe what they say, they just say it to get under your skin. These are half of the people on TPP, meaning TPP is basically the same as TBP.

The entire Red/Blue thing is a false dichotomy anyways. Human behavior is a spectrum, it is not binary.

[–]Cryocasm1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The entire Red/Blue thing is a false dichotomy anyways. Human behavior is a spectrum, it is not binary.

I do believe however that human behavior is polarized to either red or blue behavior. There certainly is a midway grey zone, but generally a lot of people use a basis which comes from either blue or red.

Human behavior, especially that of a single person, depends heavily on how much work they do on themselves and in what solipsistic universe they are contained in. Before the redpill, I lived in a cloudy cold world in my mind, which therefore determined my behavior (being a bitch); at the time I definitively had connection to the alpha philosophy but it was suppressed by the feminized society that I am forced to live in. After finding the redpill, my universe of thought expanded and rediscovered old elements which were long covered by feminist propaganda. My mind is now capable of producing more positive and aggressive behavior without feeling sorry or guilty.

[–]2RedPill4LYF9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of us have tried to come to the negotiating table in peace, but it doesn't take long for the hamsters to come at you in full force with absolutely no help from the moderators because the mods themselves are trolls, too. PPD is another hand of SRS/TBP.

[–]veggie_girl30 points31 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Kings need not seek counsel from court jesters.

Adults do not ask infants for lessons in crawling and shitting oneself.

[–]16 MGaiusScaevolus10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I get your point, & I agree with it. That said, court jesters were usually some of the most trusted advisors of the king. the reason being they could speak freely and honestly of their opinion on any given matter without fear of losing their title or land.

just goes to show you, if you have to speak truth to power, use humor. Otherwise they might kill you.

[–]veggie_girl8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Good point. There are also plenty of comedians like Bill Burr that are plenty redpill, but they don't get their careers shut out by capital-feminism because they have a humor-pass.

Having a politically incorrect view can lose you a CEO position at Mozilla. But if you add humor to it, all is well. Humor-pass is probably as close as men will get to having a pussypass.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Humor-pass is probably as close as men will get to having a pussypass.

Honestly I think it is because it brings the tingles....recently I've said some very RedPill ideology to some pronounced feminists that I personally know but delivered it with wit, and dry morbid humor ....

Especially regarding AF/BB topics.

They ate it up and asked me approval seeking questions later last week

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The one thing that sends all of them around the bend is suggesting that any two groups of humans are in some way different from an intrinsic standpoint.

Any group other than the "pale penis people" (their term), that is.

[–]Gold_Leaf_Initiative13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the real purpose is to rob us of our time and energy, make us exhausted. They're not seriously arguing. Look how "selectively" intelligent they can be when the situation calls for it, then we get all invested making a long, well reasoned argument, and then they derp out and ignore every point made. It's basically an intentional waste of your time and mental energy.

[–]widec9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's why I call it "The Indigo Pill". It's a mix of both sides, but definitely leaning towards one.

[–]through_a_ways-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Several months, ago it wasn't even indigo, but full-on blue.

[–]Gold_Leaf_Initiative9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, they are non-responses.

/r/TheRedPill/comments/264pva/dont_believe_a_word/chnv1jq

I had this argument yesterday. Person says it's okay to lie in a relationship, then appeals to feelings, then appeals to majority, then tries to defame my character, before finally backpedaling and saying they never said any of the stuff I am directly quoting.

Then, tries to say I am using a logical fallacy anytime I expose hypocrisy or non-congruent arguments.

Hamsters gonna hamst.

[–]isthatyourdaughter 3 points3 points [recovered] | Copy Link

"She lies cause she knows how you'll react!" More like she lies, cuz she doesn't want the guy getting ideas she doesn't want him to have. These people act like we haven't heard the same arguments 100 times from every angle.

[–]TheSKSpecial0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

"She lies cause she knows how you'll react!"

I love the logic behind that line. She knows you're going to have a negative reaction, so it's better to lie about doing it than not doing it in the first place.

Here's an amazing life tip: if you feel ashamed about something you've done willingly...you probably shouldn't be doing it.

[–]AngraMainyuu-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Small caveat to that little life tip, sometimes its not that you feel ashamed, but because you know the other person is going to have an unreasonable over-reaction to the truth. Small fictitious example: My girlfriend left town, and while she was gone I had a girl over. Not say'in I slept with her, but my girlfriend might flip the fuck out over it anyway, so I'm not gonna bring it up. No harm, no foul. Everyone can get back to their day. Sometimes there's just no need for the extra drama telling the truth can bring with it. BUT I agree with you, if you're doing something shameful, then you shouldn't be doing it, and the "I knew how you'd react" line doesn't get you any points.

[–]TogiBear1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll just leave one of my favourite quotes here: "everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler".

Lmao. It doesn't matter how simple or complex your points are, she's gonna hamst either way.

[–]Atheistlest-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely lost it at "I tried logic to convince you, but it doesn't seem to fit the 'if A then B' formula, I suppose that's why you can't stand it." That was the most amusing failure of grasping concepts I've seen in a long while.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

We all came here because we knew something was off our entire lives, we just hadn't put it into words.

This is exactly how I've felt my entire life.

All through my teenage and college years I thought I was the only sane person in an insane world.

Why does everyone idolize sex? Why is college such a fuck-fest for everyone but me? Why does it disgust me to see girls slutting it up, swearing like sailors, etc. and going on like it should be attractive to me and if it's not, perhaps I'm just gay and I should get over it. Why did she pick him, we all know he's a loser and isn't going anywhere with his life. Why do girls like going out with me but always friend zone me. Why is the world this way when I've been taught different?

"Women are attracted to confidence. Just be yourself and be confident. She should love you for you."

I always knew there was a missing piece to the whole puzzle. I've always said that I'm a optimist disguised as a cynic and always saw the bright side of things.. And now I've never been more secure, more happy, more confident in the way that the world works. And that's just fine.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Ain't no reason to go looking for a fight but you better recognize one when you're in it. Those dipshits all argue the same way: derail the topic to confuse the issue and make an indirect assault by attacking their opponent's character. Either disengage or adopt the same tactics and employ them preemptively for the win. Understand that you aren't debating an issue. You are in a race to see who can shake the other's frame first. Avoid petty insults and curses and go for the throat: SMV. Whether they are male or female call into question their attractiveness and success with the opposite sex. Adopt different tacts until you get them on their heels and they start defending themselves and then dig until you uncover a painful truth.

It's neither fun nor productive, but if you insist on fighting these people that's how you destroy them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes black knighting in the most destructive of fashions.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I brought Black Knighting into the Red Pill lexicon. Every time someone uses it I get an ego boner.

[–]2RedPill4LYF0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every time someone says black knighting Lube gets a new buldging vein on his man stick.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire23 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, don't worry about blue-pillers; their misguided received ideology is it's own punishment. They're operating under the wrong assumptions, and they WILL suffer for it. I know from experience. I observed redpill truths, but clung to my bluepill morality for years, and life punished me for it.

[–]TurgidMeatWand6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're dealing with mostly teenagers. Their experience and peer groups prove time and time again snarky ad hominem attacks trump a structured argument.

Push for something of substance and they'll claim not to care, especially if you're in the minority. I should know I used to do it all the time and felt really satisfied with myself.

[–]FinalEquin0x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'd be surprised. I'm a teenager (I guess Senior now that the year is over). I would say majority of the kids at my school are more RP. Few BP kids

Then again I live in Suburban Tennessee. Traditionalism runs through the veins of this area. Besides most teens try to emulate adults in public forums. Your probably dealing with mid-20's "independent" young men and women. They act like children.

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[–]FinalEquin0x1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Add the phrase, "lol whatever"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone self-identifying as a blue pill is doing it to rile you up.

Half the issue with TRP is that when someone pushes it hard enough you stop acting like an adult and start acting like they're someone who should, or even can be argued with.

Don't argue with "comedians." You won't win. Shit, spend five minutes watching John Stewart or Colbert.

[–]Endorsed Contributorleftajar4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My gut reaction to this thread: Why the hell are you reading Purple Pill Debate?

Fuck argumentative bluepillers; they're either women, who will disagree on principle, or they're deluded men, who will never compete with you for pussy. They're the chumps on the sidelines, poo-pooing the game while secretly wishing they had the balls to play.

Unsub from that shit, you'll thank me later.

[–]2comment2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The Purple Pill is a waste of time. Mostly because of what blue pillers are. They are there to exercise social justice into existence. That's why they are majority at PPD, when the TRP membership is almost 4x greater to TBPs. Redpillers, almost by definition and in seeming deed, simply should not give a shit.

Anyway, even if you "win" an argument, what do you win? The best you can hope for is greater insight into something and that is a seldom occurence there.

The reality that happens is that you say a cat has 4 legs, fur and a tail, a good generalization, they will cut that down with exceptions of an amputee, a sphinx, and a manx (breeds). It's inane trivia to know but does it convey deeper understanding or kill the generalization? No.

The problem is people don't understand the disagreement pyramid and think that the low levels are equal to the top levels:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg

And that's what most of TBP/PPD and indeed the internet is comprised of. People do not understand debate in the classic sense. And no, it's not what occurs during elections, especially presidential "debates". That is diluted pandering designed to elicit positive feels from the masses.

Internet arguments are like merry-go-rounds. You go round and round, and at the end, you are at the same spot you started from and all the progress you made was waste hours of your life convincing a worthless, anonymous stranger you'll never meet you're a stubborn asshole.

[–]Kolperz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They choose to live online, I choose to live in reality.

[–]through_a_ways2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you really want to do damage, and you really have time to waste on that type of shit, just masquerade as a blue piller/feminist, and start gradually supporting redpill, under the guise of actually being a feminist. You could say something like "redpill is mostly shit, but as a bluepiller I agree that this, this, and this are pretty accurate", etc.

You could also do this on xojane, jizzabel, etc., as well as reddit itself.

inb4 this post gets deleted.

You could also do the reverse--instead of posing as a feminist and mildly supporting redpill/MRA stuff, you could pose as a feminist and discredit feminism by being making unreasonable statements in favor of censorship, racism, etc., in order to benefit women (example: [insert minority] more prone to violent crime, so do stop and frisk to protect women, something like that. Or "bondage is demeaning to women so it should not be practiced and bondage sex toys should be made illegal". Make up your own.)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't walk into a warzone unless you're looking to fight.

[–]pdx_rp1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"Debating" in PPD got my main account shadowbanned. Apparently voicing your opinions in a debate channel is shadowban worthy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Admins are playing for the other team

[–]Stopher1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Purple pill? Isn't that for irritable bowel syndrome?

[–]colovick-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, heartburn... But it's a similar level of discomfort

[–]midnightmasses1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The purple pill "debate" is magical place where eunuchs write odes to their own chains, and revel in the feeling of moral superiority being a future-cuckold gives them. Because it's not safe out there, in the world, without social Marxism telling you how your life is to be run, at gunpoint.

[–]ThisShitRules1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is anyone even spending time and trying to discuss with them?

I remember hearing someone saying that the harder you're preaching something, the more likely you're trying to convince yourself, not the other person.

[–]Tsilent_Tsunami-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why is anyone even spending time and trying to discuss with them?

The elephant in the room is IQ. Putting it into contemporary computer terms, the vast majority have "processors" operating at less than 1 MHz, whether red pill, blue pill, or unaware of the concept entirely. They're like big pets in human form. Yes, some aspects of TRP reflect reality fairly accurately, but the greater determinate is ones ability to process information across all aspects of life.

[–]Strongproudwoman2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't read your full post. But try not to look at that stuff. Avoid those subteddits and articles about stuff that generally makes you angry.

[–]magicalbird 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy Link

It's one giant shit test

[–]lesbianDREAMS-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That applies to most things in life

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

The blue pillers are stuck in the feminized mindset that they were raised in. It's no fault of their own that they resort to their style of "debate". They've internalized the notion that men need to man up or shut up therefore anything contrary to that, they dismiss with a "lol wtf" :

http://therationalmale.com/2011/10/18/the-honor-system/

A man can only unplug himself from the matrix. These people just haven't seen the light. We should pity them.

[–]frequentlywrong0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Blue pillers are like creationists. Both deny evolution, but from different angles. To them feminism is like a religion and they are the religious fanatics. Scientific facts do not fit their world view, so they dismiss them. You can't argue with someone like that.

RP can pummel their logic to the ground and they will not change their mind. It's too difficult because they have way too much invested in their completely wrong world view.

[–]midnightmasses-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sunken costs fallacy, to the nth degree.

[–]FortunateBum0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

PPD, BP, SRS - it's all hate communities. They are similar to the KKK. They are opposed to men speaking the truth about women and opposed to men living life for themselves rather than for women and children. They hate when men seek individual autonomy. They hate men.

I too gave PPD a chance. No, I don't think the mods are fair. I don't think PPD is worth anyone's time. There's no real "debate" going on there. The anti-TRPs don't care to understand the arguments TRP is making.

I think all pro-RP posters should start ignoring PPD debate yesterday. What does it serve? You can discuss RP ideas on RP. If you're wrong, RP posters will tell you. Problem with PPD is that you're setting yourself up for abuse and nothing else.

If people are curious about RP ideas, read TRP. No need to "debate". You can debate all you want on TRP anyway. Why have a separate sub?

[–]clear-sight0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why expend the energy on getting angry and committing a wall of text?

Who cares what other people say or think. If they approaching the edge of the cliff, remain silent and watch them drop.

Better to focus on improving self, and forget others.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Take a look at this completely serious thread.

It is 100% not an intentional troll. Totally serious PPD discussion supported wholeheartedly by the BP population there... the title speaks for itself.

I AM A HETEROSEXUAL WOMAN AMA.

100% pure unadulterated attention whoring. In 300 fucking roundabout comments she added not one ounce of content to any line of RP conversation. All that's been done here is attention whoring based on the fact she has a vagina and that gives her an imaginary advantage or insight in discussing the issue. When people realize she doesn't and ask her roundabout ways to confirm points on redpill, she completely sidesteps everything or denies that anything is redpill if it agrees with RP. Even when she thinks she makes a point, its pure hamstering bullshit, with absolutely no clue about the idea she's attacking, stating generalities and generally being captain obvious and literally treating this as her blog.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just went back and read that, and woooww is it fucking painful. The top comment there is good, though.

[–]fuckforce5-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

To be completely fair, one could say the same thing about this sub.

For every worthwhile post here, there are two typical "I just graduated high school and went to my first frat party" bullshit.

Good for you. You neg'd her and fucked her.

I don't know exactly what phase of life I'm in, except I know that I'm done with partying. At the ripe old age of 28 I've had enough. After you play the game so many times it just gets old.

I've had my priorities set for long enough that fucking some bimbo at the bar doesn't interest me. I suggest you get your shit together also and realize theres more to life than fucking broads.

TL;DR Fuck Bitches, Get Money.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is where you learn to game an entire relationship and become that which you idolize others from .

[–]BrPinz-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, the main reason I came to TRP was because of the ridiculous fucking double standard the world has set for women.

Since being here I've seen the same pro-feminist stance being argued by Blue Pillers 100 different ways and they're all pathetic.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is not a debate.

Atheist can not debate with religious people, their world view is completely different.

However unlike a discussion about something intangible vs inexistent, reality is exclusively red.

You can only share your reasoning in a humble and simplistic way. And ask the blue piller to be open minded and take his legitimate skepticism and apply it to blue pill theory with equal measure. And observe the real life events that occur in the real world. Prioritising what works over what people generally accept as true.

You can not force the pill down his throat, he literally can not see the matrix if he never stepped out of it. Teach him to notice "glitches" and let his natural scepticism power him trough the rest of his enlightenment.

[–]Rainymood_XI-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Would the average online atheist be able to have a open minded discussion about god?

[–]MorePancakes-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This whole thread sounds to me like a giant White Knight Shit Test... Now I'm not in PPD and have only heard of it just now, but it seems to me even dealing with these Men (or women or trolls or what ever else) we must keep frame to credit our thought process.

Stay the adult and deal with them like a parent arguing with a child if Thomas the tank engine can fly...

[–]QQ_L2P-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I first came to TRP, I found PPD. I wandered across to see if I could find a way to synergize the two philosophies. The only thing that sub proved is that they are completely incompatible and that TBP is a venom in the veins of society.

At the very least, at least the sub helped me confirm the evidence I had and allow me to start fully internalising TRP.

[–]ITHOUGHTYOUMENTWEAST-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Basic debate 101. If you react to a statement with immediate disgust and disapproval, the people around will subconsciously question the statement made prior; regardless of the factual content of it.

"It's so obvious to them that that statement is horrible, so it must be, or something is wrong with me." This is the subconscious, or even conscious thought that we have when someone uses this debate tactic.

Making your opponent look silly and horrible is one of the most powerful tactics one can employ, it's only weakness is that once you see through it, they have nothing. This is why idiotic beliefs are propagated among idiots, this type of debate strategy is super effective against them.

[–]hamstercide-5 points-4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Context. RP or not, not every strategy is suitable for every situation. I doubt you'd have an easy time having a harem if your goal is an LTR.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is besides the point...the point is the BP responder did not make any effort whatsoever to make a serious argument.

Also, i thought it was funny how he mentioned that they should "talk like adults"...we all know treating women like the children they are is how to keep them in line. I would bet my bank that that specific poster is a fucking incel.

[–]Tsilent_Tsunami-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

we all know treating women like the children they are is how to keep them in line.

Funny, that's what we say about people of average intelligence.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

1/2 RP posters, stating their opinions are backing them up with experiences and examples to support their claims

That is a problem. You need STATISTICS to show these are correct. If you are not using academic level sources and instead relying on 'personal experience', eg anecdotal evidence, it doesn't matter. Snarky comments are just as valid.

If you don't get that, you don't get RP.

[–]la_sabotage-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For somebody who claims to be an alpha, you sure are a whiny, bitchy little cunt.

[–]jobs33ker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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