Male-shaming is nothing new. The guy hitting on girls on the street, to the incel guy sitting alone on the bus who had the audacity to ask a woman for directions, to the "asshole" who doesn't worship his gf.

To normal bluepill guys, it just comes with the territory. It's something to "overcome" in order to "prove your worth as a real man". It's something to support and understand; you definitely shouldn't question it or resist it because these poor women are trying to protect themselves.

Redpill guys know that the issue is more complex. And that complexity comes from the woman's point of view.


Beta male-shaming:

Beta male-shaming is part shit test part defense mechanism. The #1 parameter determining a woman's SMV is her association with others (social status). That is why women constantly latch onto the guy with the highest SMV and try to suck him dry. It's why women demand management positions after companies become wildly successful, whereas they didn't care about associating with that company when it was just starting out.

Based on this, women know that the value of their pussy goes up or down depending on who they are seen associating with. Hence, women reject the advances of beta men (despite the actions being identical to those of alphas) because associating with them would lower their own SMV. It scares the hell out of them and economically it's "bad for business".

Further, beta men are not respected by women. Why? Men's key resource in the sexual marketplace is status via validation. For women, it's sex, obviously. When women give away their resource (sex) too easily, they become sluts and men use them for sex and don't respect them. Likewise, when men give away their validation/affection/status too easily, they also become "male sluts", and no women respects them (but still uses them for free drinks/movies/1 am phone calls complaining about the dick they just sucked).

Beta male-shaming is a combination of shit test, defense mechanism and male "slut"-shaming


Alpha male-shaming:

Women also extend their ire to redpill/alpha men. Whereas beta male-shaming elevates the woman, alpha male-shaming actually tries to lower the man's SMV. They do this by attempting to redefine what sexual success actually is; instead of it being based on actual sexual success, they try to make it based on sexually satisfying a woman's requirements (usually in the context of a relationship).

This is another "evolved" or rather "trained" behavior. It works for them. By alpha male-shaming, they can acquire their Alpha Fucks more easily. Why work to have a good body and thin legs if you can simply insult alpha men for liking that and redefine beauty completely? Why be feminine and support the men in your life if you can simply do a worse job than them and still get the same pay & even greater praise? It makes sense...for them.

Further, alpha male-shaming comes down to butthurt & jealousy. While regular women do alpha male-shaming as a desperate attempt to get a discounted alpha, more combative women (RE: feminists) do this in order to hamster/redefine what they can never have; "Well good! I didn't want a handsome, popular, assertive guy anyway! That's not TRUE masculinity!".

Alpha male-shaming is a combination of women wanting to get discounted alpha fucks without putting in the work, or just vilifying what they cannot have in the first place


My final point:

Alpha-male shaming is connected to a new movement of trying to redefine "masculinity". One of the most disingenuous things women do is try to tell men "why do you want that type of masculinity in the first place?" It's incredibly solipsistic to think that men should want to think like women. I will leave you with this comment on this topic I saw in another subreddit (slightly edited):

Why are feminists so fixated on redefining masculinity for males? Why are they confused when their version of masculinity just DON'T appeal to us?

Don't tell us HOW to become a man, just like we don't tell you how to be a woman. This is exactly the mentality of traditional dads (and I am not only talking Asian dads here) pushing their daughters to the traditional feminine ideals and JUST NOT GETTING the point that those ideals are extremely unappealing.

What if sexual conquest is indeed appealing to us as man? Just like it would be extremely stupid and controlling for males to tell females to not to have sex with lots of man, it is extremely stupid and controlling for females to tell males that “you shouldn’t want to have sex with lots of woman”.

Feminists like this one (I understand there are plenty even on this forum not like her) just piss me off. They see things only from their point of view, and the things they are preaching these days are extremely hypocritical. They are pushing for things onto males the exact same things they pushed back against.