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This guy: Fiance who has 3 kids with 3 different men, one of whom he's paying child support for, is a stay at home wife who refuses to even help around the house, and stopped having sex with him. This poor man.

October 22, 2013

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Title This guy: Fiance who has 3 kids with 3 different men, one of whom he's paying child support for, is a stay at home wife who refuses to even help around the house, and stopped having sex with him. This poor man.
Author puaSenator
Upvotes 33
Comments 19
Date October 22, 2013 8:45 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/this-guy-fiance-who-has-3-kids-with-3-different.232753
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1p02jo/this_guy_fiance_who_has_3_kids_with_3_different/
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[–]RPW MODLifterofThings24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow... The dad has custody of one of the kids? You have to be a pretty big piece of shit of a mother for the courts to give custody to a dad.

Let me preface this with: he picked her, and I'm willing to bet there were a few red flags he overlooked in the process, however...

If I had any testicles, I'd happily lend them to this poor man in dire need =\

[–]jolly--roger14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Fiance doesn't want sex. Please help?

it's like everything is fine if there's sex. facepalm

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Thats all most women are good for

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with you, but you're essentially right.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex.

Men are the gatekeepers of commitment.

It should be a give and take. Right now, this bitch is getting all of the commitment without having to give up sex. This is the biggest mistake blue pillers make. If she withholds sex, you withhold commitment. It's pretty simple.

Am I saying your SO has to fuck you all the time? No, sometimes they're just plain not horny. But a few weeks and no sex? She's either got something wrong with her or she's getting it from someone else. 99% of the time its the latter.

So again, no sex no commitment.

[–]jolly--roger0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

basically, yeah.. but there's more on the guy's plate than 'just' lack of sex.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That poor man needs TRP badly. It's not just Red Pillers that are suggesting this guy get the heck away from his fiancee, take the kid, and cut his losses. It's everyone. Thank God that this poor soul isn't married yet and can get out with most of his financial resources intact.

The sad fact is that for every man like this, there are two more not posting their situation on reddit for public comment. There are countless men trapped in loveless, sexless marriages, with unproductive women who disrespect them both openly and in private, who are just plain stuck. Because getting out costs them any hope of a relationship with their children, half of everything they own, and a good chunk of any future earnings. So they sit and rot, trying their hardest to remain insubstantial shadows to avoid their wife's bitter attention and to avoid provoking her to divorce. In many of these cases, she cheats, knows that he knows, and laughs about it. She even has more kids, not fathered by the husband, and he's stuck supporting them.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

He's stupid

[–]1thedangerboy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe he is either really stupid or he enjoys being the victim/martyr. I am leaning towards stupid but I can't rule the other out completely.

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[–]puaSenator[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly, you're in a manosphere sub, so you're only going to get the male insight. But I am very familiar with this woman's behavior. It's actually quite common.

What is happening here is a breakdown of the dualities (masculine and feminine). Women tend not to be as direct as men when it comes to conflict/resolution. Women tend to express their frustrations through emotion. I know it's been said a million times but, "Women like to talk about their problems just to have someone listen (as to express their emotions) and men talk about their problems to find solutions."

This is exactly what we have here. The man in the relationship has drifted too far away from his role as the masculine leader. I guarantee you that he's not anything like the man that she fell for. He no longer is able to emotionally arouse her. I'm sure having the kid changed a lot. But looking at his behaviors, it's clear he's not being the same man. He always compliments her, tries to help her, bends over backwards at any moment she asks, basically he's gone beta and no longer acts as the leader. She no longer has to earn his attention and admiration. He's given her everything, and now she can just walk all over him, and he lets her.

This is where her behavior comes in. As a woman, she's expressing her frustration through her emotions. She's hoping that he'll see her change in attitude (but men don't see the world this way, so it's falling on deaf ears), and go back into alpha mode. He'll become that man she used to love that could ignite her passion. "No, I wont sleep with you, because you aren't turning me on. No, I wont do anything around the house because you are weak and will do it all anyways. No I wont let you flirt with me, because you are too easy and it annoys me that I'm stuck here living with you."

The guy, certainly has a case on his hands. She's probably not the best woman to have around, as I'm sure this behavior is quite common with her. This is why I'm okay with people saying, "Leave her ASAP blah blah blah." However, the guy still has a shot at restoring the relationship if he really wanted to try and make it work for the kids. He'd just have to rediscover his masculinity and take back control. If he really wanted to, within a months time, he could be fucking her on the kitchen table that she just cleaned, every single night.

But again, this probably wont happen. It's the biggest issue the two genders face which is the inability to communicate on the same level. For the most part, alpha men don't have to learn how to communicate on her level, because he'll naturally overcome these problems. However, for a guy like him who needs to swallow the red pill, he needs to learn how he's a total blue pill and why. Expecting her to figure out why he's acting the way he is is futile, because she'll just like him less after learning how weak of a man he is. Like I said, it probably wont happen.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's acting like she's already married to him and has his balls and financial future in her purse. Amateur! Everyone knows to slip the mask off AFTER the wedding!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

  1. what is it with girls in this sub.

  2. Society makes it easy to shame men for wanting sex, yes even from their wives (and fiancées) in loving relationships. Its implicit that when you're bf/gf you can just leave if you don't get what you want but the implicit understanding backed up by explicit shaming is that not having sex is the wife's prerogative in a properly committed relationship. If the men then wants sex he can get assraped by the divorce train. The wife will definitely be giving a lot more sex to the next guy that's for certain.

When a girl says to me "you only want me for one thing" i am already dangerously close to leaving her because she just doesn't understand how important sex is or is playing the men are pigs card and its not my job to make her understand that men value sex more than women seem to.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

because she doesn't care about saving the relationship, in part because nobody will paint her as the bad one for denying sex to him.

[–]OffensiveLineWriter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is such red flag for her to dismiss your wants and needs in a relationship, feel free to compromise towards her much nobler wants and needs only after yours are being met. It's a shit test of priority - it can work but always has to be you then her OR not at all!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All I see is one crazy bitch he should be bailing on ASAP before he signs the papers and says 'I Do'.

This guy needs to basically tell her to fuck off and kick her ass to the curb.

Seriously complaining about his masturbating when SHE wont do anything to help. Complaining about him watching porn. Not willing to cook or clean. Does not have a Job.

SOMEBODY tell this guy to kick her ass out and for fuck sakes dont marry her. Then she'll get vaginamony and child support.

Also the whole paying child support for a kid that isnt his is a crock. He's not married to her.

And what the fuck kinda mother does she have to be for the father to get custody? Holy shit that's probably like a 5% chance where a father gets full custody of a child.

[–]ihavespellingproblem3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh shit. Men started wars for pussy, this guy cut his balls off.

[–]GushyWetWet150 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck this guy. if you are this fucking retarded then you deserve every bit of shit that's coming your way. i used to sympathize with these beta's but now couldn't give a rats ass anymore because no matter what you do or say they will never listen.

[–]not-claudius-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone else found it kind of amusing that the top of the link says "redditlog beta"

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