Welcome to the Desert of The Real

rayyaal · 2016-08-24T18:56:19+00:00

Imitation isn't the problem though. Imitation is natural and necessary for the progression of any and all forms of understanding. When you're born you imitate your parents, you imitate your siblings, you imitate your friends. Hell even everyone on here is trying to imitate someone who embodies the image they see themselves attaining.

There's this book called Mastery by Robert Greene (TRP suggests a lot of his books). A big part of mastery is the Apprenticeship Phase, which is described as a phase in which you try to forget your ego and embrace a mentor to guide you in his way in order to better understand your chosen field. Part of that phase is doing literally everything your mentor asks, copy everything, watch everything, and remember that you don't have the expertise to yet decide how to creatively diverge.

When you have gained a healthy amount of knowledge and perspective, you can move forward in your distinct way. Then you can incorporate your creative drive to understand and mold your chosen field in the direction you please.

You can't start with creative, you have to start with imitation. TRP started with PUA. When emulated, it created something deeper in its proponents because it drove certain individuals to find an over-arching behavioral approach to analyze the sexual marketplace (eg. Tomassi) and help newbies imitate and focus their thirst for knowledge (and pussy) in the right direction.

That being said, fuck commercials.

OSaraiva · 2016-08-24T19:26:06+00:00

You eat what you see in commercials. You fuck how they fuck in porn or at least try to. You dance how they dance in music videos. You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

That's how it has ever been. Great kings ruled, their minions obeyed. Whenever empires grew weak, other men with stronger will and greater power who'd inspire their followers would come and take their land and their women. The religious leader says you cannot fuck? Who would dare disobey, other than sex starved, victorious invading armies eager to bang your wife and daughters.

So we are living in times with a different packaging but the same basic idea. The stronger define rules and take whatever they want. The meek obey and get whatever is left.

That said, my Red Pill is collecting the greatest moments i can. That's what makes me feel alive, regardless of society, unwritten rules or whatever. Just do it.

Nice post.

_TheUglyDuckling_ · 2016-08-24T19:16:45+00:00

You eat what you see in commercials. You fuck how they fuck in porn or at least try to. You dance how they dance in music videos. You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

This is what I was thinking about for years. Monkey see, monkey do. Amazing post.

Black-Pill · 2016-08-24T18:57:59+00:00

Can I be the Neo to your Morpheus ?

^{No ^Homo}

virusofthemind · 2016-08-24T19:18:41+00:00

In the persuasion community this is known as "social script theory".

Back in the ancestral environment people learned how to behave given different social circumstances by watching how others reacted and internalising the methodologies observed into a default heuristic for themselves.

Nature decided to give a trapdoor straight to the belief/limbic system when those behaviours involved the triggering of an emotion in ourselves or seeing it expressed in others.

Emotions are an even older behaviour adjustment dynamic to save our ass in various different situations but the move into a tribal existence meant that expressing them at the wrong moment or inappropriately could bring an abrupt end to your gene line.

So...watching and copying how others reacted in emotional situations was an astute way not to rock the boat and be seen as a loose cannon on board (which could jeopordise the tribe) and be seen by your fellow tribesmen as being a normal guy who posed no threat and could be relied on if needed.

Nowadays the majority of people get their social script from movies and soap operas and internalise what they see as being the norm and copying it. Unscrupulous agents of persuasion use these vectors and the limbic trapdoor to piggyback new "norms and behaviours" into the general population for their own agendas (feminism, race, gay rights etc).

Here in the UK you can't watch a soap opera without coming across gays having relationships (see it's normal) or Westernised Muslim characters (see they're just like us) and even total super cucked betas acting out an onscreen character that makes you want to tazer their scrotum (all though to be fair you do see the odd Chad Thundercock for the ladies - get's the viewers coming back for more hypergamous titillation).

Some of these scripts have become so systemic into society that they're accepted as an absolute and even control how people react in deadly situations, like falling to ground if you're shot even if you're just winged for the simple reason that: That's what happens in the movies.

ToSeeAndToHear · 2016-08-24T20:20:44+00:00

GLO I love you bro but this is just the art vs life debate. Art imitates life, life imitates art. Kids in the fucking Iron Age probably imitated their parents and tore at their clothes and hair when grieving.

Everyone copies, no one is 100% original and authentic. Except for humans raised with no culture, who are barely recognizable as human.

Copy, steal, act like others. Put your own spin on it. Make your story have a different twist, take it interesting places no human has before.

jb_trp · 2016-08-24T19:37:34+00:00

The problem is that everyone is "flying the plane under construction." Everybody is learning life while life happens to them, and figuring out how to act and respond to things ,usually on very limited knowledge or understanding. Your ex-gf used those lines (most of which were total bullshit), because she probably didn't have the awareness or understanding herself of the truth. It's not like she's going to say, "I'm not attracted to you anymore. You showed a lack of masculinity that I'm repulsed by, and there are other, more masculine men I'd rather sleep with and date." So everyone is living in the lie whether they acknowledge it or not.

TRP is great because it finally gives men answer and framework for understanding the world around them, so they can make informed decisions about life and sex, rather than the gynocentric lies that have been shoved down their throats for decades.

Literallyoprah · 2016-08-24T19:00:30+00:00

Normal doesn't exist and anyone who tries to sell you on the idea of normalcy being either desirable or achievable is a con-artist or actively trying to impede you in some way.

Don't be normal, be authentic.

[deleted] · 2016-08-25T18:44:20+00:00

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bowie747 · 2016-08-24T20:41:06+00:00

I've always known it on some level, but since unplugging it's becoming clearer by the day that everything you see and hear has been planted there in order to maintain control.

Governments and global elites have implemented systems en masse to keep their people distracted. A distracted people are a complacent people. And a complacent people don't overthrow corrupt governments.

They inflate and deflate social issues (BLM, sexism, immigration) systematically to keep us focussed inwardly on each other. If we're too busy calling each other racists, we'll be blinded to the true nature of our captors.

This is not the natural order. These pieces did not fall this way organically. They have been planted to keep you blissfully placated.

I can taste it in my food. It's disgusting.

We have a choice though. To be aware is to have the power, and to have power is to take it from them. Soon there will come a time when we either plunge head-first into a dystopian wasteland, or transcend our current environment and beat the system. Basically we have to be Neo.

[deleted] · 2016-08-24T20:14:32+00:00

Society has always been driven by something. During the Middle Ages in Europe it used to be by the Catholic Church, where people were openly told what they were allowed to do.

The difference between the present and the past is that there is no longer an institution explicitly telling us how we should live and how we should act. In the present we live under the illusion that we are "free", that our actions have not been influenced. Nowadays, we are fed information (through news, TV...) and we behave based on what we perceive.

Society does not realise that we are just as constrained as our ancestors were 500 years ago and that the only difference is that today we are told what to do in a covert fashion.

zintarweb · 2016-08-24T21:14:42+00:00

"None of these concepts are the real Red Pill. The real Red Pill is far bigger than those things. The Red Pill is an all encompassing truth that affects everything you see think feel and hear. The real Red Pill is the fact that you and everyone else are trapped living fake lives in an artificial existence."

Yes. As defined in The Matrix, the red pill was escaping the illusion of artificial existence. And before that, the special sunglasses from They Live.

There's a purpose to this artifice, just as there was in the movies. Power and control. Even concepts of TRP can be manipulated and twisted to further their agenda; shunning family and children, indulging purely in alpha conquest to the detriment of an otherwise potentially powerful new family that may rise and threaten the old established families.

Eastern philosophy and New Testament Christianity plays into their hands by promoting the spiritual, the after-life, shunning the here and now for "a better place".

TRP is one facet of the real Big Red Pill, one which may lead people on to unveil the truths in other facets of life. The lies are deep and abundant, everywhere and anywhere. Hyper-skepticism is the only answer, to which, you appear to be paranoid and delusional to everyone else. For which, your best option is to obey the rules; do not talk about Red Pill...

The saying "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt" may thus be better written as "better to keep your mouth shut and let the fools expose themselves than to open it and expose yourself to fools".

Docbear64 · 2016-08-25T00:59:58+00:00

This is so solid, I found myself wondering the other day why everything felt soooo ...forced. I watch T.V. and see this band of rappers who are nothing more than caricatures of rappers of the past. I see Trump and hilary on-screen who are both clowns trying to wear presidential makeup . No matter where I go or who I meet their is just a lack of authenticity and sometimes I would say even awareness . This has finally allowed me to see why though . Why everything feels so fabricated . I thought the redpill was about sex and relationships but this "sight" this understanding / embrace of the world and most people around me being actors in a stage play is fascinating .

Not sure where to go with this but I am happy to finally understand this most recent splinter in my mind.

[deleted] · 2016-08-25T01:51:02+00:00

I think what you're getting at, that a lot of people seem to be missing, is that TRP is about holding reality above all else. We live in a world that is so saturated with fiction that our expectations of each other and our lives are unrealistic.

All ideas are subject to reality. Reality is non-partisan and does not care how people feel about it. People on all sides of the spectrum have a tendency to deny reality if it serves their interests or narrative. Now that people no longer have to fight for the bare necessities, now that they can spend most of their time living in fantasy worlds, they don't have to face the hard facts of our world. Until, of course, the world changes as a result of negligence.

PragmaticRedTruth · 2016-08-25T11:02:50+00:00

The Red Pill is living in society in a dualistic nature.

You're the all knowing, all seeing, and you're stuck here, mouth sown shut, the only exit is death. But, you know what you're living isn't real, it's a fabricated social experiment that you unknowingly went on the ride for. Ego, money, status, it's all a mask... and a funny one too.

The only way to live, is to play the game.

aanarchist · 2016-08-24T21:13:14+00:00

very good observation, i've noticed similar. it's impossible to be authentic with people whose lives are imitations. i remember this one girl i used to date who had crippling social anxiety like she would constantly try to filter herself and say things that made everyone like her, constantly trying to manipulate people. i was like babe just be yourself it's fine to say dumb shit that comes to your mind. she didn't have the self esteem to be her authentic self, and eventually started trying to get me to follow her prewritten script that wasn't even written by her in the first place. it was just sad as fuck.

red_question · 2016-08-24T22:39:06+00:00

The most sobering thing to realize is that the most convincing fictions are the ones woven to disguise the paths that lead inexorably to reality.

I don't think most people who are taught to hate this subreddit understand what it's about. Not even close. A large percentage of people who think they understand TRP have never visited. Another large percentage has visited, found an excerpt to satisfy an immediate confirmation bias, and then proceeded to leave forever. A smaller percentage, I suspect, is comprised of the lurkers, the concern trolls and the autistic. But even those folks know they're here because there's some gravitas to TRP that compels their presence. Most average people at the top of the bell curve, the casual redditors, the run-of-the-mill Progressive college kids, the demographics that seem to care the most -- they're the ones who know the least about what we are.

TRP and the collective manosphere has become revolutionary. We talk about revolutionary things here, and that is the point - we are not culture or what it accepts. We are counterculture, and it is sensed. For many, that same gravitas that attracts the flies is easier understood from a distance, and a sad percentage of actual smart people are happy to let the feminists and the career Progressives educate them about the shadowy outskirts of town. There's too much risk in discovering for oneself what lies outside the egalitarian utopia of Pleasantville, after all. Gravitas changes people when they get too close, and people know it. Feminists do too. I suspect this explains a little of why they're so shrill and insistent that we are evil.

jamesso33 · 2016-08-24T23:31:19+00:00

“The girl is infectious human waste, and she's confused and afraid to commit to the wrong thing and so she won't commit to anything.” Fight Club

beginner_ · 2016-08-25T05:34:28+00:00

It's ironic but I can't shake a feeling that "Just be yourself" actually is true but on a completely different level than what it currently means.

It doesn't mean stay fat and complacent. It's doesn't mean you can just go on as you have been for the last decade.

If you interpret it in having your own thoughts and ideas and live by them instead of going after the script (work, get GF, marry, kids, die fat and unhappy), it actually becomes a very good idea.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-08-24T20:11:26+00:00

Game is such a deep concept.

I agree 100% with the thought process at play here. Our reality is entirely manipulated and the frustration I feel is that once you start speaking in ways that are outside the "Official Narrative" (David Icke term) you are an easy target for ridicule.

You essentially have a choice:

You can experience the pain associated with having a reality that deviates from the "Official Narrative", react defensively, shrink up into your shell in fear, then simply give into the powers that be.

Or you take the Red Pill and in effect make yourself an eternal target.

My aging mother (84) is a point of contention for me these days.

She is so crafty at "pretending" to be enlightened while actually doubling down on the Blue Pill illusions and it really pisses me off at times.

Anyone ever seen Brideshead Revisited?

https://youtu.be/sD0nrC-vfaY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brideshead_Revisited

It's the story where the "Mother" of the family, Lady Marchmain, is very crafty in completely distorting the Catholic teachings to serve her self absorbed female needs.

She manipulates the whole family so that the family basically falls apart.

But she thinks she is holy... while everyone is driven into distraction because of it.

This is how reality gets distorted on the personal level.

When you get to the level of seeing Game in everything you see how certain people can twist reality for their own purposes and this can destroy a family or destroy an entire civilization.

Control of Game has been lost in the West.

Globalists now control everything... to those within the Blue Pill you make such an observation and they say:

"No, that's just a conspiracy theory you silly boy. Everything is fine."

You know the truth... but you pay the price in speaking it.

[deleted] · 2016-08-24T18:57:44+00:00

Funnily enough they bring the same mentality of "social imitation" into here, by trying to strap down "red pill" as some kind of thing or philosophy they can use. Everyone is scared of chaos!

bornredd · 2016-08-24T20:20:04+00:00

You just need to be yourself and gather followers for your behavior to become the norm:

https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement?language=en

The bit about the dancing idiot is grand, but very poignant.

RedPillFreedom · 2016-08-24T22:05:28+00:00

Fuck, man.

I wasn't expecting two solid posts back to back.

Hitting home runs with these "True" RP posts.

I try to limit consumption heavily like you said. Other people project their fiction on to you. Best strategy I've developed is use my fiction to overpower theirs. If I read books about warriors then I embody their characteristics.

Besides Yellow Pill, what reading could you provide on better being prepared for the bullshit that is known as the modern world.

How can i turn this Sahara into Shangri-la.

dingman58 · 2016-08-25T03:55:50+00:00

Good post but that's a shit t-shirt

[deleted] · 2016-08-25T05:53:03+00:00

Basically fight club. I watch that movie at least 3 times a year to keep myself in check.

StoicCrane · 2016-08-24T20:10:57+00:00

It's about time TRP was redefined. Many newcomers perceive it as a place where they can feign personal progress for the sake of validating their feeble egos. Being dependant on synthetic, fleeting externals without ever feeling satisfied.

They allow themselves to become mindslaves of their object of pursuit, women.These are the type who lift for women, get rich for women, dress well for women who fail to take an introspective step back and place their life's aims into perspective. The type the resigned self-flaggelating MGTOW community love to condemn and mark as the standard for all TRPers.

By sifting through the conditioning, the fantasies, and indoctrinations to haplessly comply & confom to intangible "social authorities" we empower ourselves to become our own guiding principle in reality.

Whatever this new found sense of clarity is directed to whether it be laying scores of women, becoming financially/mentally independent of the mass consumption mindset, or live a completely fulfilling life is up to the individual to choose. So long as the intent is genuine and devoid of imposed commercial/mainstream influence who's to judge? Everyone's sense of actualization manifests differently.

The_Meissner_Effect · 2016-08-24T20:52:41+00:00

If you haven't seen Terry Gilliam's fantasy-thriller Brazil, go and watch it. The protagonist creates fantasies to escape from his dull reality.

marduk_nibiru · 2016-08-24T21:15:25+00:00

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles. Everything that was directly lived has moved away into a representation."

max_peenor · 2016-08-24T21:15:33+00:00

You live how they tell you to live without understanding that you are no longer living but imitating.

Until you can spend a week alone in the deep woods, desert or on an island listening to the wind tell you want to do, you are not a man. At some point in your life, you must do this.

But homosexuality is normal now because now the television plays the Aww sound and jubilant music when two Men kiss.

Interestingly enough though, male Spartan citizens made shoving their dicks in each other's asses look masculine. They just did it in between killing lots of people and taking their women. There wasn't a Spartan female that would dare do call them on their behavior. These days? Yeah, you get a long stream of hipsters talking about how the are bisexual, and then wonder why their unicorn girlfriends wants to open up their relationships. Women detest these boys. Women did not detest Spartan citizens.

So what is the difference? A real man doesn't experiment with his feelings, feminine side or sexuality. He just fucking does whatever he wants to do. He makes a world that bends a knee to him doing whatever he wants to do. Sure, it might include buggery, but who am I to tell them where their will takes them?

Disclaimer: no homo.

Luckyluke23 · 2016-08-25T05:19:00+00:00

great post man keep up the good work, also your shirt is pretty cool.

[deleted] · 2016-08-25T08:10:37+00:00

This is a great post. I feel too many people on this sub see TRP as the truth, neglecting the fact that

it essentially focuses on a part of the truth (specifically sexual strategy)
even though there is a lot of quality information out here, a fair bit of it is distorted

I am glad you see it this way.

The true Red Pill is seeing the Real. The Whole.

JamesSkepp · 2016-08-25T13:43:09+00:00

Why did you remove the post?

LuvBeer · 2016-08-25T19:37:18+00:00

"...a script that was probably written by a fat balding Jew somewhere in Hollywood" LOL. This is why I hate it when people reference some series as some sort of authoritative source on anything.

zolzks · 2016-08-25T21:45:04+00:00

Most people have avoided life for so long that they have no idea what it is. Most people would rather collect the artifacts to display to the friends and family than actually do anything for purely their own motivations and desires.

You can lead a horse to the water, but you can't teach it how to float on its back. Worse, the horse is just itching to go back to the stables to brag on horse Facebook about how it was taken out to the water, completely missing the point of the excursion.

There is a minority that is feeling, thinking about, and discussing anything real. The rest rather buy the t-shirt, wear the funny hat, spout the lingo and learn the secret handshake.

The reddest of red pills is that this describes TRP perfectly. And the PUA web forums of the 2000s. And the Usenet seduction forums in the 90s. Heck we could get serious about this and go back to Christianity and Buddhism etc and it is the same old story. "His name was Robert Paulson !!!".

RudeJude92 · 2016-08-27T15:02:28+00:00

Once again, GLO, you've said some words and those words have blown my mind all over the wall behind me.

[deleted] · 2016-09-21T20:31:11+00:00

Thanks for this post man. It has been 28 days since it was posted. That's pretty much how much it took me to reassess a lot of shit in my life. I feel like this helped me grow as a man and get a new perspective on some things. I don't know if you come up with this stuff yourself but keep writing it.

makeitproductive · 2016-08-25T00:42:13+00:00

What's the point of this post? It sounds like the epiphany of a 15 year old. Yes, our society influences our behaviour, but this in itself has nothing to do with the red pill.

TRP is about clearing the field of all the bullshit (Society' bs, women bs), understanding what you want and how to fucking get it. It gives lost men who come here a kick in the teeth and the tools to deal with todays world, much like a good father would.

The desert of the real... Fuck me, thats cringy.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-08-24T22:55:45+00:00

Well fuck me, I only recently discovered I was pooping the wrong way. You actually have to turn around so you have a neat little table for your drawings and such. Smh, no one told me.

[deleted] · 2016-08-24T23:18:07+00:00

I stopped reading at "video games"

redestofthereds · 2016-08-25T00:46:41+00:00

This makes me wonder if it was Mexican soap operas that destroyed marriage in Hispanic families.

aherne18 · 2016-08-25T04:55:42+00:00

Most men and nearly all women are herd animals. They do whatever authority tells them and shun anyone not being part of the herd. This could be easily exploited by inserting a corrosive propaganda into "what everyone does" then let the disease spread itself.

erthian · 2016-08-24T22:55:10+00:00

The real red pill is knowing that everything is a farce, but not caring.

SafeWordIsCommitment · 2016-08-24T21:35:15+00:00

Think you are meeting the girl you met online? Nope.

That's a photoshopped picture of a woman under heavy makeup using very specific camera angles from 8 years ago. 5 fucking degrees removed from the real person.

Goldfulgore · 2016-08-24T22:27:31+00:00

Now that you are post redpill, did you figure out why they broke up with you?

nillotampoco · 2016-08-25T01:47:01+00:00

Oh. My. God. There has to be more content online discussing this "reality reflecting media" I NEED to read more about this.

How would you search for this online, does this concept have a name?

-LiterallyHitler · 2016-08-25T04:36:23+00:00

For the Alternative Right, the Red Pill is the belief that race is a major factor in individual and group behavior.

Just because something is the most controversial doesn't mean it's the core foundation. Also, "alt-right" can't really be pinned to any single group so we can't really speak for it.

ELLEN_POO · 2016-08-25T11:10:55+00:00

Boys, i don't know why this was removed but it's archived on archive.is. Use the browser plugin to go to the archive.

Benny757 · 2016-08-25T22:13:08+00:00

But that same movie was the blue pill lense. Fast forward modern times and the movie ends quite reddly.. In this new release its her screaming "What? What??!!! You are dumping me??? After all we had??!!! FUCK YOU, Benny!!!!" Too which I reply by hitting the end call button, smile, turn off the phone after blocking said number, after which my screen with her in it fades to black, me continuing to smile as I lean back and doze off in peaceful sleep....

BluepillProfessor · 2016-08-26T02:17:11+00:00

The real Red Pill is the fact that you and everyone else are trapped living fake lives in an artificial existence.

Bingo! The Red Pill metaphor acknowledges the pain of realizing that EVERYTHING and I really mean EVERYTHING women EVER told you about love and relationships and marriage and sex WAS A LIE. ?EVERYTHING. All the assumptions you based on what your sister told you were a lie. And so was what your mother, aunts, cousins, friends, girlfriends, lovers, wives, ALL of what they said to you about sex and relationship and attraction was a lie. A look in your face and passionately argue type of lie, but it was a lie.

When you realize that it really is like waking up from the Matrix. The Red Pill is a perfect metaphor. Homosexuality is "normal" now because every single TV show has the "cool gay guy" who is wise, smart, funny, and deliriously happy. Soon every show will have a tranny and chicks with dicks peeing in the girls bathroom and showering with 14 year olds. You will be kicked out of school and labeled "transphobic" if you grimace or shame she/he/it in any way just as today you are labeled "homophobic" if you dare grimace when 2 men are kissing on screen.

thousands of hours of fictional television movies and internet.

Not to mention tens of thousands of hours of vampire rape porn ala 50 shades. Reality is a social construct.

It wasn't in the sixties when the television played ominous music while two men kissed.

Yah, that shit was not even considered until movies like Brokeback Mountain in 2000's. Men kissing? Not even in the playbook.

I don't think of GLO as a Morpheus- more like Tyler Durden:

Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Or are you so impressed with authority that you give respect and credence to all who claim it? Do you read everything you're supposed to read? Do you think everything you're supposed to think? Buy what you're told you should want? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive.

sx_appeal · 2016-08-26T04:03:36+00:00

Network 1976 - We are in a lot of trouble

Title	Welcome to the Desert of The Real
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Date	August 24, 2016 6:15 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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