When you're a homless man no one gives a FUCK about you

January 9, 2020

Military vet that went through some shit. For the past 6 months I was on the street and going from shelter to shelter.

You know how many shelters there were for battered women? Or women in general? Dozens upon dozens. I couldn't believe it. I've been denied entry, turned away, and kicked out for stupid shit.

I was at a men's shelter and went to the other side of town for a couple of job interviews. The buses ran late but I told the shelter manager that I wouldn't be able to make curfew.

He acted as if he understood but as soon as I came back this fucker gave me a "warning". After three warnings you're kicked out for 90 days.

I was like fuck this shit. They also had a policy of making those with income (I get VA disability compensation) to set 50% aside for savings. Sounds reasonable until you realize that you need their permission to access your own money and fuck waiting 2 years in a shelter to give you section 8 housing. Like who can live like that?

I was kicked out after I withdrew all of my savings without their permission twice.

Call me a narcissist or a slave to my ego, but I felt relieved to be from under their thump. As if I had to be grateful to them for letting me sleep in a bunk bed with other Vietnam war vets who are coughing up a lung and spreading the flu around.

At the end of the day, the only person I need to depend on is myself and MY own resources.

So I was back on the streets. I had a plate that lived 7 miles away. At the time her car was fucked and I needed a place to lay low so I said "fuck it" and walked. I've done 20 mile hikes with the Marines in full gear and a medpack, so I remind myself that 7 miles in the cold with a backpack and street clothes was nothing.

Once I made it there and slept for the night I managed to get ahold of a case worker that helped me look for a spot. Living off of hotel rooms were killing me and I couldn't stay at my plate's place long term because a man needs his own castle and you can't let someone else have the power to kick you out and control your destiny. Been there, done that.

My job interviews fell through so I went from place to place in search of work. One time I stupidly was stuck in the cold with a dead phone and needed a place to charge it.

Damn near EVERY establishment denied me entry.

It was like I was the scum of the Earth. Security guards confronting me as if I was a wanted criminal just because I asked to borrow an outlet to charge my phone.

Finally after what seemed like hours of walking, I stumbled upon a boogie Marriot hotel. I thought that there was no way they'd let me sit down and charge my phone.

Lo' and behold they were more than happy enough to let me sit down and charge my phone. In fact the receptionist said "Take all the time that you need." Almost brought a tear to my eyes.

After a week of wandering and sleeping on park benches, I managed to stumble on a motel that was hiring. I negotiated my pay along with a permanent room in the motel for work.

As I sit here in my room and reflect on my journey I realize that I lost everything I had built from a couple years ago. I had to crawl through the mud, sleep in the rain, and ask for favors that NO ONE was willing to help me with.

There is a point where you become so angry that you become laser focused. It's like tunnel vision.

I was so OVER everything. I was over with being broke, over with everyone shitting on me, over with being kicked out of local establishments, and over having less than a THIRD of the resources that women get, that I obsessively searched for a solution.

Suddenly, what I lost didn't matter. Reaching new heights did.

And it starts now.

If you've ever been in my shoes then you know exactly what I'm talking about. No one cares about your struggles, and no one cares about YOU. If you can't provide anything then you might as well die.

I looked back at the lessons from those who lost everything and the mindset they had to bounce back. Steve Jobs being removed from Apple, Napoleon escaping exile and returning to France, Abraham Lincoln failing practically every business venture he's ever had, etc.

They used their failures as a foundation to build their power because the harsh truth is that only YOU can see it through and bend the world to YOUR will. Don't bend your will to appease world.

There is comfort in knowing that no one truly gives a flying FUCK about you because it sets you free. I demanded that the motel manager let me stay and work because why not? What did I have to lose by trying?

Even my social worker was surprised, but my ambitions have not been sated. I need to save as much as I can and get my own condo or apartment. Hell I had a dream about a penthouse overlooking the city. It's time to get to work.

Happy Fucking New Year.

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Title When you're a homless man no one gives a FUCK about you
Author studentsensei
Upvotes 1356
Comments 198
Date January 9, 2020 4:43 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]1empatheticapathetic535 points536 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Homeless but still had a plate. Keeping it real.

Glad to hear you’ve made it to this point. Good luck

[–]castleglastonbury101 points102 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i live in los angeles, and one day i was riding with a buddy, and we were coming off the 101, up in the valley.

now the offramps often have grass on either sides, bushes, some greenery. this one lady was walking her dog and had a bag in her other hand. i at first thought she was walking back to her car which had a flat tire or something. she looked pretty alright from afar.

she comes to the offramp, and goes to the side, and a big homeless guy comes out, takes the dogs leash, and lets her go into his tent.

in my minds eye:

"hi honey, i got some groceries and took the dog for a walk. i'm home now."

"okay, I'll take her for a walk. when i come back home we'll smoke meth, cook on the hotplate"

[–]Turkerthelurker61 points62 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

and we were coming off the 101, up in the valley.

So the snl sketch Californians is true...

[–]Thor-Loki-117 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

More than you know.

The 101 @ The 405 is a bitch, doesn't matter what time of day (yes, you say "The" before the #).

[–]Helenoftroysboytoy8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Other than the exaggerated surfer bro accent, it's 100% spot on

[–]dingleburry_joe14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Lol and most dudes cant even get a plate. Think about that.

[–]oldslut8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

would be much worse if you would compare their lame excuses to what the OP actually went through.

[–]dingleburry_joe5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even more reason to know that mentality trumps circumstance when it comes to women. Some dudes have zero money and no work and still manage to get poon like crazy

[–]BallinPoint26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is how The Weeknd used to live off of the street. He would spin plates and sleep in their places. Gangster shit.

[–]Endorsed Contributormonsieurhire25 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, you beat me to it.

[–]fannyfire4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Women want to fuck winners and losers.

[–]1empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link


Uh...you’re gonna have to be more specific. Otherwise this is obviously wrong.

[–]fannyfire11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women want to fuck winners and losers. They don’t fuck guys in the middle. OP is a loser. Homeless, no job and down on his luck. It’s not uncommon for women with low self esteem or confidence to fuck guys like him. Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it wrong.

[–]Lambdal713 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women want to fuck guys with an alpha attitude. You can be rich and have alpha attitude or poor and have alpha attitude and they will fuck you more than rich or middle guys with beta attitude.

[–]1empatheticapathetic5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You still haven’t explained it, just stated it... why would a girl with low self esteem fuck him but not someone better?

[–]fannyfire6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women with low self esteem don’t believe they deserve a higher quality man. This doesn’t mean that there is zero possibility of her ever fucking a high value man if she has low self esteem. However, it should come to no surprise that she’s willing to settle for a low value man if her self esteem is low which is why I initially said that women want to fuck winners or losers. Guys in the middle are boring. They’re predictable. A guy living on the streets, doesn’t know where his next meal is coming from and is seen as a piece of shit on the sidewalk is attractive to a woman who don’t believe she deserves better.

[–]1empatheticapathetic3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This kinda makes sense but is still an iffy concept. The guy still has to have some level of SMV; looks, notoriety, frame, connections, adventure. Women aren't out there wholesale fucking homeless people over betas because betas are boring. Usually she's just fucking a bunch of men on demand to alleviate her low self esteem, rather than fucking a homeless guy.

[–]fannyfire4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. Him being homeless would be too simplistic. He definitely has to have some looks and frame. He may be a loser in the sense of what society has to say but because he doesn’t know where his next meal comes from this adds mystery and danger which women love. He’s fuckable because he’s not predictable which comes from not being average. Women aren’t necessarily out in droves to fuck homeless men but they do enjoy men who are rough around the edges like OP.

[–]LucidCunning167 points168 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This is a great story. It's also a great reminder that only a man will ever write this kind of a story. A woman would be taken care of long before it got this bad for her.

[–]HerefortheTuna27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So true. Unfortunately we can’t help the cucks and simps see the light

[–]cactus-sama227 points228 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

motherfucker, you better keep me updated with how you're doing every year

[–]1empatheticapathetic121 points122 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

“Don’t speak to me for another year tho”

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[–]hopeunseen15 points16 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

While I don't disagree that there is an obvious gender bias, let's not get being a man mixed up with being homeless either. The reality is that society rejects homeless people period - As a homeless man you get rejected because you are homeless, not because you are a man. Your value to society is based on what you produce, and a homeless person is producing negative value, therefore they have no value to society and are treated as such. I don't think this is right or fair or good, but the truth is that the value of people is based on the value they bring to the marketplace (whether financial, social or sexual marketplace, it doesn't matter, as long as they bring SOME value) - I think the difference here is more that women are given a "free pass" on having to produce value in our current society. Don't want to work? All good. Don't want to cook or clean or keep a house? You shouldn't have to! etc... IMO at least. It's a complicated and heartbreaking subject and I wish I knew how we could fix the system which is clearly broken.

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[–]DarkSyde30004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Pissing and shitting on sidewalks is also prevalent in Los Angeles too. I visit friends there maybe once a year and every time I go the city becomes more and more of a shithole. I saw used syringes on the ground outside of elementary schools. They had that typhus outbreak 2 years ago. 1% of the rats are carrying bubonic plague, if it gets to 2% there will be an outbreak. Homeless populations are exploding because the cost of a studio apartment is like $1800 a month, the cost of living is a joke, the crime is high and education is low, and illegals get carte blanche and free handouts all day every day. That state is fucking disgusting.

[–]hopeunseen2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

From what people who know more than me say, you're right - a homeless woman would have had different options and more support available to her. That doesn't change the fact that your value to society is determined by the value you bring to the marketplace. Although yes, homeless people can "get away" with activities that other members of society cannot, I certainly wouldn't go as far to say being homeless is a benefit to anyone. Whether man or woman, being homeless is an extremely hard situation. But again, not trying to argue I'm right... Just IMO the issue that causes lack of opportunity is lack of VALUE to the marketplace - Not the fact that you are a man. The whole purpose of RP is acknowledging that your life is your responsibility - You are the captain. By saying "society screws men over because they're men" you're creating a subconscious helplessness and surrendering your power over to society... So I don't think it's an empowering mindset to have, whether or not there may be some truth to it.

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[–]red_philosopher0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe the Betas and Incels have it right after all. Suck a metaphorical penis via video games all day long, work minimum wage to support your digital cock habit, and thereby do as little as possible to support the "tax plantation."

[–]allblackerrrythang-5 points-4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

How is all of history before 100 years ago a narrow historical window? Women couldnt even vote until less than 100 years ago

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[–]DarkSyde30002 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In today's society what you said would be labeled sexist, but it's absolutely true. As we've seen, women vote with their emotions and lunacy, that's why they're horrible at statecraft and implementing policy.

[–]22oregon221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Outstanding comment and spot on. I will be saving it for the future if you don’t mind.

[–]DancesWithPugs0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion, those particular agenda items would have been pushed through regardless of public support and votes.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But men were sent to war and women not so that is why they gave the vote to men after WW1.

[–]Olram_Sacul1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men were drafted until less than 50 years ago

[–]Jimmy2e0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How is all of history after 200 years ago a wide historical window? The vast majority of men couldn't even vote until less than 180 years ago.

[–]CainPrice48 points49 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, for every one of you, there's a homeless dude who's actually dangerous and will fuck with you or your customers. And ten who will fall asleep and piss on your floor.

You're the exception. The other 90% of homeless men are mentally ill and potentially dangerous and you can't let them into your hotel lobby to charge their phone or you'll get fired. Half the ones with homeless vet signs aren't even vets.

They made a whole Joker movie about this crap. If you're dying in street, people will step over you to avoid getting their shoes dirty. Who you are doesn't matter. Stop being a somebody and you become a mud puddle in the road.

[–]ellendegenorate16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Think I would have fired the hotel employee or tell them dont let it happen again.

Its a nice story but lets be real, one comes in, more homeless hear about this hotel that doesn't tell them to fuck off.

a customer sees dirty as hell homeless filling the lobby, makes bad reviews. noone wants to stay at your heroine box hotel.

being "nice" isn't good for business

[–]DarkSyde30008 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad but true. As someone who has done business in San Francisco, I've seen the homeless hordes descend on the city as soon as the sun sets. Pissing and shitting on the sidewalk. Throwing glass bottles at cars and taxi cabs. Swinging bats and sticks at passersby on the sidewalk. Spitting on people. Assaulting people in the subway. Doing heroin in alleys and leaving their needles on the sidewalk (along with some sembance of HIV I'm assuming). There's a reason major silicone valley companies refuse to have their conventions at Moscone anymore.

I'm glad OP was able to get his shit together, but it's true. The vast majority of the homeless population these days are mentally ill drug addicts and are dangerous to society at large. That's the downright truth of it.

[–]Yoshimitsu-MKII113 points114 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

This girl I used to go to highschool with claimed she was being abused by her husband. She went to the hospital. Stayed there for two weeks, how she's set up in a hotel waiting for low income housing.

I live in a welfare sort of state that obviously favors women. Even if they are childless and refuse to work.

[–]staytrue198587 points88 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

From purely evolutionary perspective, men who fail have no place in the world.

You shouldn't pass on your genes and you definitely shouldn't be a burden. Women can still make babies and do chores, but that would be sexist to point out, even in a context about men dying and nobody giving a fuck. The competition in life to be a successful male was/is higher stakes.

We now live in a post-evolutionary world. Actually, a degenerate, devolving world. You and your offspring can not just survive in this world even if you have no ability to survive in it: you get to be empowered!

Success and failure has a lot to do with corruption, your family you were born into, and luck. If you want meritocracy, your best bet is a STEM field but even that is fishy these days with most published science literally being wrong and unable to be reproduced (google this sentence if you are not aware).

But I find it funny how less-than-fortunate men still get treated like shit even with all that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime25 points26 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It comes down to the oldest and most simple biological law, eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Roughly it can be translated to: Women have intrinsic reproductive value, men only have value correlated to what they can provide. Many men wish this weren't the case long to be treated the same way women are, but the truth is both have their upsides and downsides.

Women have the pick of the market in their youth, which makes life great for a period, but a women's peak is very short and ends very quickly when taken over the span of an entire lifetime. Once they begin to age their biological value declines. Imagine waking up every day less valuable than you were the day before and there's nothing you can do about it because your value is tied to your youth and beauty. You will never be able to perform in market the same way you did before.

Men on the other hand are their least valuable in their youth because they have very little to offer. As you age and accumulate more you become more valuable. There is always something you can do about your value, if you lose it, you can build it up again, if you don't have it you still have hope to create it. Your value is malleable and because it is tied to what you can offer, which means it is relevant no matter what age you are.

Personally, I enjoy autonomy over my value instead of being at the mercy of a biological clock.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Children have the maximum intrinsic value, followed by women. Men have little to no intrinsic value. How a man is treated is how he lets himself be treated.

If men were respected in the past, it was because they made sure they were.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hence the ol "Women and Children first" trope.

If men were respected in the past, it was because they made sure they were.

Men were respected because they provided for their families.

Women did not and could not provide for themselves, they had to select the best man available to them to take on this responsibility.

This gave their men tremendous value as they were quite literally the roof over their heads and foods in theirs and their children's stomachs.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believed this for a while, but in my observation this is not entirely correct. If this was the sole factor, why are so many provider husbands facing the issues they do? I know couples long married for decades with the usual BP issues, they just put up because divorce wasn't around then.

Sure, women did love their men more because they needed them, but still, men were never respected by default. All their respect was created, until respecting men became default social behavior. When that changed, we now realize men aren't intrinsically respected nor do they have any intrinsic value.

In the past, men made sure and set up the system such that they would be, or else there would be consequences.

[–]steve2000917 points18 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

But I find it funny how less-than-fortunate men still get treated like shit even with all that.

Exactly. That's because the white male has become the enemy of the state at this point (especially in America). The push for equality is fueled by this idea that males (especially white ,ales) are unfair, privileged, and have absolutely no excuse for failing at anything. Apparently we don't experience the same struggles everyone else goes through. It's no secret that society places a numbered value on you from the day you become an adult (as a male). If you don't live up to their expectations, they toss you aside and move onto to someone else who's "successful". The sad part is those men who are rich af, look successful, etc. but gained their wealth and status through illegal or manipulative means.

[–]Itshighnoon7776 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Illegal, manipulative and sometimes at the expense of minorities ironically. Yet those are the men society accepts as "successful" where as the ones actually grinding day and night are pushed to the side lmao. Society is has become a joke.

[–]steve200096 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Exactly this. Two completely unrelated examples with the same theme:

  1. The 2008 financial crisis: Wall street/Big Banks were looking to put their big pile of money into something with more of a return rate than government bonds at a mere 1%. They realize that historically real estate has always been a safe investment, and backing mortgage companies to help people get into homes and achieve the "American Dream" would be a legit play; a safe return. However, only so many people qualified for mortgages at the classic 20% down 30/year fixed. After those people were in houses, they banded with mortgage companies and rating agencies, and by early 2007, if you had a heartbeat/pulse, you qualified. Sadly, most of the people they ended up screwing were minorities who tended to be in their golden years. There was proof of emails going through Wells Fargo referring to African Americans as "mud people", and how "stupid they were to sign for these mortgages." Basically, subprime mortgages were the cancer which was infecting the entire global market place since these toxic mortgages were chopped up, packaged with low risk securities and sold off. As we all know, the big banks were bailed out by the tax payer (whom they were screwing), and most of the higher ups in said companies received massive bonuses, career opportunities while they destroyed human lives.
  2. Qatar World Cup 2022: While the world cup obviously hasn't begun yet, the fact that Qatar, a country rich not by innovation and education but geographic location and...oil, won the 2022 World Cup bid was insane. It gets to 120 degrees fahrenheit in the summer, yet somehow they are going to host...a World Cup? The stadiums they're building are being built via modern slave labor. Men from Napal (and other countries) were trying to find decent work by going to Qatar and working construction jobs via contractors such as UBEX. However, it's been uncovered time and again how the living conditions, treatment, and overall care of these workers is simply sub-human. Bribes were found throughout the entire selection process and Sepp Blatter was banned from any FIFA related events/projects for 6 years. Severe corruption, destroying families and workers, unpaid wages (for months) and somehow this world cup is still taken seriously. The rich elites are bringing in even more press, attention and money, while the stadiums are clearly stained with the blood of the migrant workers who came to earn money for their families back home.

Two very unrelated events, and as always, those who come out on top are those who exploit the decent folk just trying to improve their life situation even slightly.

[–]Stron2g3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

These are the same shit heads keeping the people weak and ignorant by mass poisoning the food, water, air, and soil and by supporting the atrocities of contemporary vaccines and heavily biased public education among other methods. They fabricate problems regarding race and religion to distract us from the true issues of class and freedom.

It's inhumanity and people.... idolize them lol. Absolute insanity.

[–]huckleberryshiva23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Ya man clown world insists immigrants get 10 kids and westerners get none. It’s like that movie intro of idiocracy but Instead of rednecks insert 3rd worlders.

We need to pool our resources into homogenous communities and start having kids before it’s too late.

Godspeed gents

[–]ellendegenorate13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

had some thoughts about this just yesterday, from when they first came here and our own government using our tax dollars for them to reproduce rent free.

our country was lost 80 years ago and we didn't know it yet

[–]FuddPacker19282 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What's to stop the men from fucking each other over tho

[–]ToraChan231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The men that are being targeted for getting fucked over

[–]huckleberryshiva0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Throughout history there’s always been community elders who legislate at a local/community level. Once America became a minority run empire that has disappeared

[–]DarkSyde30004 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Add to that laws being passed where women have to sit on the boards of companies, regardless of their experience or lack thereof, they just legally have to be there or the company gets fined. That's not how free markets work, nor is that how you hire the best of the best to sit at the top. At the end of the day, the best person for the job should be the one who gets it. Shouldn't matter what you got between your legs.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Who pays for the hotel?

[–]1Zanford43 points44 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Probably you and I, at gunpoint via taxes.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you fucking Canadian?

[–]1Zanford11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

  1. What makes you think the other guy is Canadian?

  2. Read up on 'the hypothetical you'. Gonna blow your mind.

  3. As it happens I have paid taxes to the Canadian government

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more tongue in cheek.

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[–]red_philosopher2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If that were entirely true, then hormonal birth control would be a joke and women would literally be selling babies on the open market. But that's not happening, so what is really going on here?

Women don't want to have anyone's baby, they want Chad's genes in their womb. As long as men in this society suck the dicks of video games, porn, and substance abuse, women will never put their natural birthright to good use.

So what does capitalism do? It imports people from places that aren't completely fucked yet- and it takes nearly anyone they can get that isn't genetically unsound. Everything's hunky dory right? Right!?

But what about this "no fail" state for women? That's driven by capitalism? Hell no. Capitalism is driven by raw, merciless, dog-eat-dog evolutionary force. The best rise to the top and stay there until someone else comes along and puts a metaphorical bullet in it and becomes the next top dog. Population growth and the economic boom that comes from it is a side benefit.

Creating a no-fail state for women undermines the basic functionality of capitalism by eliminating the meritocratic elements that drive competition.

Why then, would we create a no-fail state for women? Well, we wouldn't, but women most definitely would. And they'd do it so they can secure the resources necessary to support them while they embark on the lifelong, neverending quest of finding the chaddiest Chad to fill all their holes. Too bad they'll never find him.

[–]Sod_Off_Shotgun37 points38 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hope things get better for you.

Even with all the resources thrown at women, you still see articles that are supposed to be shocking to women saying "25% of homeless people are women" which is supposed to make it seem like it's a crisis affecting women.

Hmm... sounds like what they're saying to me is that 75% of homeless people are men

[–]BrandanTech0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because the only women who are truly homeless are severely mentally ill.

No average woman is going to end up homeless.

The first line of defense will usually stop this; family and friends. You don’t think a woman could stay with her parents or close friends for awhile?

Second line of defense is beta cucks. She can easily find a provider to live off of if she has a vagina. Hell, the last stop at the second line of defense is to sell some pussy. If you’re above a 5/10 as an escort, easy $200-400 a day.

Third line of defense, if they choose to respect themselves is the government. They bend over backwards for women.

[–]hoopingblob22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what I call commitment! Keep going! 💪

[–]theUnBannableHulk45 points46 points  (9 children) | Copy Link


Society is treating It’s Best like its worst,

And it’s worst like its best.

Glad you pulled yourself out of the hole.

[–]CochinoChingon21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Been in your shoes brother, army vet, but the same boots. I was lucky to run into some guys that were squatting, (after almost a month) just had to pitch in a can or two of food a day.

I don't get much disability-wise but that plus what I was panhandling, was deposited into an ATM every night. Eventually I had enough to get a place with all the deposits. And that was about 11 yrs ago

[–]EntropyForeverx1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just out of curiosity: how much do people give you if you panhandle for a day?

[–]CochinoChingon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Location location location is important. I met a guy that made 800-1200 and only panhandled on Sundays by a mega church.

I averaged 80-120. A few good days of 200

[–]LethalShade16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As a man even if you just appear low value, you're fucked.

I was broke for a while and had to take the bus. Whenever I asked the bus driver for a ride wearing a nice jacket and boots, they'd say no problem come on in. The few times I had an old jacket and running shoes on, I would get talked to condescendingly, got told I was abusing the system and would get a lecture on why I didn't have a job and couldn't afford the bus.

A 15$ peacoat and a 50$ pair of fake leather boots made the difference between getting treated like a peer they'd want to help out and human scum that they felt better than.

Was a great experiment in human nature.

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A man at his core, is nothing - just pure aliveness in a naked male body. All that is visible on the outside are the form and the clothes and the house or the car or the money and that is all what matters to the outside. Your core is only relevant to you alone.

But the core of being is the source of all potential, all inspiration and all creativity.

Believe me this same story actually happened to my dad when he was 8 years old. Once he wanted to eat at a restaurant. He was dirt poor and his landlord took him along. He wasn't allowed in because -- clothes. Dignity made him realize he had to succeed to earn his respect. Today the restaurant managers would have to apologize if they didn't treat him right.

Apparently a similar incident so upset George Bernard Shaw that he decided to feed his clothes instead. That's where the 'you' that is otherwise nothing becomes important as without it, clothes are useless.

[–]TJRowe14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe they call your situation “transformative power of crisis”

[–]RP_Throwaway_4U13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

See the shit you went through. Most people dont know pain like that. They never will. And if they did, it would end them. But the people who dig in, the ones who keep surviving, those are the ones you cant beat. Those are the ones no one can beat. Because once you've weathered a storm like yours, you become the storm. You hear me? You are the storm. And it's the rest of the world that needs to run for cover.

[–]ThatOneDrunkUncle10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck yeah dude. Proud as fucking hell in how you're handling this. Once you lose everything, you lose all delusions and see how the world really operates. Keep up that mindset, and I hope things pick up for you.

Losing all hope is freedom.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Semper Fi brother.

I'm sorry you went through that situation and I wish I could help. I'm unemployed myself and about to loose my apt in about 2 months if I can't get a job. I'm sure I'll be fine, I just may have to move, but even going to the unemployment office I was reminded how little society gives a fuck about men who are down on their luck. I can't imagine what it must've been like for you. But I'm glad to you took the first step.

I often picture most RP users are traditionally successful. I am not, but I like to think I'm wise after the failures I've experienced.

[–]EntropyForeverx2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'll pull through with RP knowledge.

[–]beachbbqlover8 points9 points  (10 children) | Copy Link


Depending on your abilities, you can go anywhere from a $210 5-sheet 3/4" plywood box to keep you and your stuff out of the weather for a few months to building your own tiny house.

Some people also sleep in cars, vans, trailers, etc.

Anyone wanting help with this may ask.

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[–]roco-j1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

And how do you bathroom? I mean, where do you go when you need to take a shit? Do you take showers? I'm sincerely curious, always been intrigued reading about "alternative" lifestyles

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[–]sackofwisdom1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How do you find new gyms while traveling and still save money? Day or week long passes are expensive.

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[–]sackofwisdom0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the detailed reply. I've done poor traveling in the states and abroad and got it out of my system. Bet someone will find your comment useful though.

[–]ArabSigma0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Check out these blog entries : http://www.kenilgunas.com/p/vandwelling.html

It's about a college student who secretly lived in his van to avoid falling in debt. He later wrote a book about it. The answer to your questions, according to him, is to get a gym membership.

[–]SimulatedRapture1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where the hell would anyone be able to build this? On what land

[–]beachbbqlover3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Find federal or nationally owned land outside of a town, and generally if you build off the road nobody will bother you for at least a few weeks. More if you keep your area clean. Even if they do bother you, it likely won't be as annoying as it would be if city police showed up.

[–]MrStone14 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad to read a story from an ex-soldier that shows your character, I've been homeless a few times myself and you are right, Nobody truly gives a fuck, least of all charities that are set aside to help soldiers.

Once you realise it and accept it for what it is you are truly free of the need or want of conditional help from those that demand that you live on your knees, The route is easier when you understand that you are your own only chance and if you keep looking up and moving forward you might get yourself into a place where you respect yourself.

You can thank your ego for that, To some of us its the armour we need to not kill ourselves, You don't want to give people the satisfaction.

Good luck Brother!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What happened to your money from when you were active service? Just curious.

[–]1studentsensei[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a failed business venture and stashed the rest into TSP (thrift savings plan) after I cut my losses. I couldn't access it until after I got out but by that time I was evicted and lost everything. I didn't even have a laptop to log on to withdraw my money. Now I'm able to do a partial withdrawal to keep me afloat.

Moral of the story is don't place all of your eggs in one basket. Especially if you were already struggling. I was stupid and desperate. Don't be like me.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, but keep diversification to a minimum. Sounds like you literally had ALL your eggs in one basket. Great learning experience though. Did you not have any family to help you out?

[–]bosslife24211 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude said a man has to depend on himself and you continue to ask stupid questions.

[–]JedYorks4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I give $20s sometimes. I just buy copes anyway

[–]ChildOfTheLostTribes4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Serve your country they tell you. Thank you for your service and sacrifice they you. Sorry we can't help you they tell you. Foh

[–]Aoimiruki4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go and earn that penthouse I really hope you will come back here and tell us how you got it

[–]the-bro5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus man, I feel for you. This is a wake-up call for me. I've been moseying around letting myself feel shit for leaving a shit job with decent pay and losing pretty much all my social groups in the last 6 months...

But all that bullshit pales in comparison to what you've been through. Keep going man, guys like you toughing it out through the very worst in life give us all hope! Keep us posted, I want to know how things improve.. whether it's in two weeks or a year.

[–]Reformed653 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yesterday saw a homeless guy with one leg standing using crutches and he was handing out those homeless magazines, there was a considerable gap between him and the other pedestrians. He looked very dead inside.

Quite a confusing sight. Though perhaps to be expected in London.

Respect to you.

[–]BreakIll2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"You know how many shelters there were for battered women? Or women in general? Dozens upon dozens. I couldn't believe it. I've been denied entry, turned away, and kicked out for stupid shit."

This makes me think Alphas dont exist. The Military is supposed to Defend the Constitution Against all Enemies Foreign and Domestic. If they really did all those Alphas would be setting up shelters for Men who have protected rights. Normies need a serious cranial skull realignment.

Also Im homeless too. I live in my car and dont have to deal with the man children on a daily basis. If they did that to me at a homeless shelter thered be reporters there and theyd learn a thing or too about fucking with a Man. Plus SCOTUS just ruled that dwellingless (correct legal term) men can sleep on the sidewalk. Sounds like you're surrounded by crazy people. Hang in there bro.

[–]DarkSyde30001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody is allowed to setup homeless shelters except the government last I heard.

[–]Philosophipster3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This reads like someone who stared into the abyss and didnt blink... after a tour abroad. Seems harsh that this still happens in “developed” countries, i can imagine you went through some lonely and solitary shit mate. Hats of for fighting for your right to exist and to share this story.

Though nothing teaches self-reliance like being actually self-reliant. If only to dispell the illusion of other people’s feigned altruism or good-heartedness towords actual strangers.

I thought the good news was that it also highlights those who genuinely care though, that’s my current motivation to look forward. It feels much more natural than the motivation of pure anger of being done with feeling helpless, like you’re the only person in your corner, worthless, etc.

Which, dont get me wrong, is a great starting point for any self-made human being :) Big hug and good luck on you 2020 endeavours!

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[–]MechanizedGamer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Inspiring read. This makes me not feel so bad about my problems (even though they drive me crazy). Thanks for the perspective!

[–]rhnsachdev2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

All the best to you. Put that discipline to good use. Don't let the world distract you from your purpose.

One thing though. Napoleon coming back from exile was the worst thing for his career, it was a finely crafted trap set by Talleyrand. Read Law 8 of the 48 LoP.

[–]DarkSyde30001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that didn't end well for ol' Bonaparte.

[–]1surfclimb2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey man, vet myself. If you’re drifting and hurting for a place to stay, try van life. You’ll save a lot on rent and hopefully get back on your feet soon. Check this video out, just food for thought https://youtu.be/25VBk8AOqRQ

[–]teka72 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i can concurr.

been kicked out by my parents, only been homeless for half a year, slept mostly at some friends houses, but still, this shit changes some perspectives you have....

honestly one of the best things ever happen to me ....

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People don't care about you, they only care about how you make them feel. It helps to play the part as the unkempt social outcast so you can see this for yourself. As a man you have to build yourself up or you have no value. Mother nature 101.

[–]DancesWithPugs2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You lost everything except: yourself. Congratulations on hanging on through the worst and getting some upward momentum going.

[–]Llawgoch252 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit dude, really hope that things pick up for you. Sucks that there's so little support for someone who's given so much

[–]str4ightforw4rd2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree. Lots of experience living on the streets (Brazil) but I'm splitting a place with a friend right now.

However, now I know it's wrong "sell my time" working for another random scoundrel, so I just decided to sell cold drinks (water, beer, whatever) by my own, with MY money. Selling very well at this hot summer of 40ºC... and studying digital marketing in my free time.

Don't even think about giving up, and just STAY STRONG: I sincerely wish you the best of luck my friend!

[–]AlmostWardCunningham27 points28 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Military vet that went through some shit.

Like drugs?

Sorry, there's about zero benefit to trusting a homeless person. In order to become homeless, a person would have to ruin their relationships with ALL of their friends/family. That's only possible if they fuck over a ton of people. And that's a bad track-record of fucking things up, so don't be surprised if people aren't willing to give you a chance.

I'm glad you're back on track, but don't be mad at the world. Be mad at yourself and use that as motivation to become a better person.

[–]Didiathon29 points30 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

In order to become homeless, a person would have to ruin their relationships with ALL of their friends/family. That's only possible if they fuck over a ton of people.

Second possibility: their family is fucked.

I've been doing some self exploration recently, just finished reading "Understanding the Borderline Mother". It explained some of my adolescence. In school I had lots of AP credits, hung around smart kids, etc. Didn't do drugs. Didn't steal money. Didn't go out late at night. Didn't do much of anything besides school and video games, plus played some music.

My mom threatened to kick me out of the house when I was just finishing high school. Both parents were extremely controlling and started to freak the fuck out when I showed some agency (I argued with them about chores and procrastinated on school work and was trying to figure out what the point of college was; normal high school stuff). Realized after the fact that my Mom had extreme abandonment anxiety, which she ironically used to justify treating me like absolute shit and kicking me out. (She's gotten better since then, btw, but not fully).

I'm earning six figures now, have an awesome resume... am not a junkie fuckup by any means. Have never been like that. But could have easily seen myself homeless. It's rough when your own parents turn on you, for basically no reason; was very depressed for a while, and as toxic as they were, they seemed like my only lifeline.

[–]LethalShade2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm almost glad for that kids ignorance. It's sweet and innocent. There's something like 30% of Americans that live paycheck to paycheck. I myself have been anywhere from hanging out with millionaires at mansion parties to having less than 10$ on my bank account for weeks on end.

I could've easily been homeless if it wasn't for my dad helping me out and that could've easily not been an option if our relationship, his health or monetary situation had been worse.

[–]AlmostWardCunningham1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

True but you were never homeless, right?

[–]Didiathon22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I was very close to it. There was a point where breathing the wrong way would have resulted in me getting kicked me out, I have no doubt. I’ve seen videos where other people make good on those threats. It happens.

I get your point that a lot of homeless people have issues that were self inflicted, but that’s not all of them, and the roots of even the self inflicted stuff can be pretty complicated/not so clear cut.

EDIT: just to clear things up/illustrate some perspective on non junkie related downward spirals a bit more: I was in a situation where I was isolating myself and my parents were (intentionally or unintentionally) portraying me as an unstable pariah to the outside when in fact most of the instability in our family at that point came from them (specifically my mother). Had they actually pulled the trigger, I didn’t feel like I had any close friends to turn to. I was too demoralized, depressed and ashamed to tell my friends (most of whom I had grown distanced from due to expectations about school/working and being at home all the time) what was going on, and I had become accustomed to the harsh treatment and lack of sympathy from my parents/expected it from others. If I was actually kicked out in a less depressed state, I almost certainly could have gotten help/a place to stay from people outside the influence of my parents, but I’m almost certain I wouldn’t have done that given the state I was in. I would have just curled up in a ball and just let myself slide further into self pity and depression.

[–]BaLahKie4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You do know how many people there are whose family’s are totally fucked up and/or abusive and the person ends up homeless because they have no family to turn to right?

[–]AlmostWardCunningham0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I don't. What percentage?

[–]03280112 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You’re mostly right, but you’re discounting the people who have actually gotten fucked over, for example being an orphan and never getting the opportunity to make friends who can spare housing/money for you.

[–]AlmostWardCunningham3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What’s the solution though? How do you help out people who are down on their luck, but not addicted to drugs or other destructive behaviors? How do you do reference/criminal background checks on homeless people?

[–]03280115 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shake a bag of black tar heroin in front of their face and gauge their interest?

[–]Didiathon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Disclaimer: no idea what existing services are like/what people might be doing now to solve this problem.

I don’t think there’s any easy solution.

You just have to decide whether you want to give aid to/take a chance on someone who may or may not be self destructive.

One idea: Jail time for panhandlers and very tight patrols/arrests for petty thefts. That should filter out scammers/put junkies who are just looking for drug money in jail (preferably rehab for the junkies). The remainder of the homeless would be a more concentrated population of just the people down on their luck and/or people with mental issues,

More volunteer work and involvement from the community at large would also make the burden less/would prevent really shitty shelters/bad types of help that just makes things worse from metastasizing. It’d make services much cheaper and more effective.

Basically more people should be more involved and a) offer wide scale support to people who deserve it b) deny help to junkies too far gone/force them into rehab.

This is sci fi futurism, but another solution would be to give every adult in the country a means by which they can sustain themselves via their own effort. If everyone had a tiny little self sustaining capsule (I mean super small, like as small as possible/sort of like what people want to bring yo mars, and capable of stacking/being in a city) that was mostly automated and required minimal upkeep, anyone willing to work should be able to support themselves. No one but people unwilling or unable to support themselves (actually and literally support themselves, thereby avoiding the social pariah problem) would be homeless and/or without food.

If a person couldn’t maintain their own capsule, others could decide whether or not to do it for them. But you wouldn’t need to give people money to fuel self destructive behavior, or trust them to help with whatever your own endeavors are in order to help them (like what happens now when you take a chance and give someone down on their luck a job). You could literally just give them the means to sustain themselves.

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[–]AlmostWardCunningham1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What's the solution? How many formerly homeless people are living with you in your home?

[–]ompv31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

im going to be honest with you man and thats the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. You must assume that everyone is like you and born with a stable family.. i remember i was driving down the road one day and my well to do buddy pointed out some dude in -30 begging for change and said "wonder how many people that guys fucked over". I just ignored it but in the back of my mind i couldnt help but wonder where he'd be if his dad lost everything tomorrow.

[–]AlmostWardCunningham4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What percentage of homeless people do you think fell on hard times due to no fault of there own? 1%? 2%?

A lot of them have severe mental illnesses which is definitely a problem, but that’s what happens when the government “deinstitutionalised” mental healthcare centers but didn’t make it legal for non-profits to create alternative treatment centers.

Even people born without a stable family can and do get jobs on their own.

And either way, having a homeless person live with me until they get back on their feet is just too great of a risk. I’d be worried about them stealing all of my stuff any time I leave the house.

[–]Abraxhas-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Then its not the goverment that is at fault here.

[–]AlmostWardCunningham17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, it is. They've made it illegal for non-profits to create mental-healthcare centers. They've also made it basically illegal for any groups (besides the government) to create homeless shelters.

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[–]AlmostWardCunningham6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s great! It doesn’t sound like you were homeless at all, you were allowed to stay at a friends house rent-free, right?

Glad we’re in agreement.

Edit: LMAO

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People do care about you. You're just meeting a few hundred people that are busy or could care less. There are literally tens of millions of people in the USA that would help you. Don't ever be demoralized man.

[–]BrownGummyBear1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your service brother!

[–]lala_xyyz1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Call me a narcissist or a slave to my ego, but I felt relieved to be from under their thump. As if I had to be grateful to them for letting me sleep in a bunk bed with other Vietnam war vets who are coughing up a lung and spreading the flu around.

Goddammit the entire Western civilization needs to be burned to the ground.

[–]DarkSyde30001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It very well may end up that way in the next decade. Maybe in the next 3 months.

[–]user201806201 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Two things.

  1. Rock on brother. Surviving that crap is a badge of honor.

  2. How in the hell did you have a plate while you were homeless? What's the story there? Where did you find her, what did you provide, etc.

[–]1studentsensei[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She was someone I had known for awhile albeit briefly. But I reached out to her on and off for months just for some tips and local job opportunities. Eventually we developed a bit of a mutual relationship and advanced from there.

I met her while she was working at a department store. She was giving out samples and I chatted with her and gave her my number and told her to hit me up when they were hiring.

She texted me to tell me that they weren't hiring but we ended up going out and vibing and the rest is history.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That is inspirational life experience.

Sorry for my ignorance but why "Living off of hotel rooms were killing me " vs you now live in a motel room?

[–]1studentsensei[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Difference is instead of paying upwards to 250 a week I now work and live in a motel simultaneously. I get paid less but that's because part of my paycheck goes to my "rent."

I expect to be out of here and in a better place by the spring. Summer at the latest.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok thanks and best of luck with your goals.

I hope to become focused like you!

[–]Endorsed ContributorSKRedPill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Despite losing everything you haven't lost your self respect nor your will to come back up. Respects.

[–]excaliboor1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't a dream.

It was a vision.

Go get it.

[–]Thunderbird931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, brewer or baker that we expect our dinner but to regard to their own self interest."-Adam Smith. Pursue your own interests bro, fuck the world. Schizophrenia landed me in solitary confinement and incarceration. I was banging my head on the cell door in the municipal holding cells telling them I was losing my mind. Nobody gives a fuck about you but yourself is also what I learned the hard way. Stay strong man

[–]Jcorb1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It sucks. I know; about five years ago now, I was homeless. Maybe a better position, because I still owned a truck, and my own mental issues were more just confidence issues (my dad and I got evicted because he was out of work, and then my cousins fired me because they're assholes).

I suppose even "being homeless" is a pretty vague term, because I suspect my experiences were different than yours; I never lived in a shelter, but the I lived in a warm enough climate I could get by sleeping in my truck, and just "showering" and cleaning up in gas station restrooms.

Regardless... it's definitely true, it's so easy to fall into a pit when you're going through that. People only want other people around that make them feel good. Doesn't matter what you do to keep your spirits up, if you're going through a tough time and they know it, you become a "downer" just by association to your problems.

Were I to go through it again, I would probably do things differently. First and foremost, make a more consorted effort to look "clean-cut" (I used to always keep a beard, but because I didn't groom it as frequently as I should have, it probably made me look more disheveled than I needed). Also, keeping a good, friendly, upbeat attitude is definitely paramount when it comes to interacting with folks (for one, gas station attendees were far more welcoming of me, even knowing my situation, that other guys who were struggling that acted like assholes because of it).

I'd also probably make an effort to find the kind of people I want to associated, and start going the places that they go. I couldn't imagine having the money for a gym membership (which I hear is growing more common among the homeless), but if you can, hey, you'll probably meet cool people who are all about building themselves and others up.

All in all... I really wish the best for you, man. As someone who went through it, I know that it's more than just the physical struggles of "not having a place to live", but that it really taxes the mind and can make you question yourself.

As some random guy told me a few years ago, when I was really going through a hard time, and it's just always stuck with me:

"You got this."

[–]FrankieGGG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hard times create strong men. Don’t hope for an easy life, but for the strength to overcome a hard one. Keep grinding OP, you’ll get there.

[–]tchower1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember when I was struggling through college my Junior year before senior year and thought I might flunk out, wasn’t living in a dorm or my own place, also parents didn’t want to help me pay for a place or my own place and help because “I should do it all myself if I really want it” and at the time couldn’t find a job that could pay enough after my band broke up where I was playing casinos, resorts and everyone thought we were gonna make it big and we were actually making good money, but all of it fell through over ego and piano/keyboard player cheating on his wife with the singer, and we went from making over 2,500 a month tax free with all that money coming in to nothing coming in, and thought I might end up being homeless since my Dad might kick me out, but thankfully my grades went back to back normal and he didn’t. But the point is, I commend you, because I was seriously contemplating crime and robbing a liquor store/gas station with a weapon instead of being homeless, because I’d rather be hated and scorned by society in a way that ends up on the news and brings me fame than be invisible after all that I’ve done, these people don’t give a shit about me so why should I give a shit about them? I even had dreams about it and felt the paralyzing fear of the cops tracking me and if I should steal someone’s car at a rest stop so they can’t track me. I did not want to be homeless if I couldn’t find a job or get through engineering classes and be in that situation. The song “Hey You” by Pink Floyd never sounded so cathartic at that time playing it live. Thank you for posting this story!

[–]HurricaneHugues1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Time to speak to the recruiter again 😁😁

[–]WiterS21 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because men are competitors, and one less competitor is a gain. It raises your status.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well done and glad to hear you landed on your feet. If you've ever been in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Seattle, you'll know that not all stories turn out as well as yours, especially for vets who are not getting the mental health care that they need after going through the hardships of combat.

Nobody gives a fuck about men who are down on their luck. One of the stories I read on the internet that drove it home was about a man who found himself homeless. I found my old post about it but unfortunately the original site no longer works.

Here's my old post:

I thought about this a bit and you're right in that a man can only depend on himself when the times get tough.

As long as a man is winning, he'll have plenty of friends and lovers.

Once he's down, he'll be lucky to have a few core people in his life - maybe close friends and family, or an exceptionally kind acquaintance.

The unlucky ones will end up with no one. The ones who were a bit too arrogant and burned too many bridges while they were on top will also be abandoned.

I read a story once about a guy who lost his job and became homeless. Pretty much everyone abandoned him, even his friends and family. His church (a very prominent one, I think Ronald Reagan used to attend) said that he didn't pay his membership dues so they couldn't help him out. He survived and eventually crawled back out of homelessness but he learned a hard lesson about being alone in the world.

Edit: found the story http://ihatemylife.us/story.html

I was not (and am not now) a drug addict or an alcoholic. The fact is working/sober people can become homeless too. Indiana Congresswoman Julia Carson knows this to be true. A member of her staff found my web site and wrote me an e-mail informing me that "40% of the homeless in America are employed."

I'll be honest, before I became homeless I knew very little about homeless people. While I gave them money occasionally, I was really ignorant about their situation. Why were they homeless? Didn't they have any friends or family to help them? Well, I had "friends" and I was homeless.

The worst part about being homeless wasn’t living on the streets or being hungry, it was having my friends, or the people I thought were my friends, turn their backs on me.

When I called these people they treated my situation with absolutely no urgency. It was as if I told them I just "had a cold" and it was no big deal. What was really amazing is many of them would tell me how hard they had it.

Reactions he got when he asked for help:

Here were some of my friends' reactions:

"Is this being homeless a comedy routine? No, I can't help."

"So, why are you callin' me?"

"Please never contact me again."

"Wish I could help, I'm in exactly the same boat as you. I'm getting killed in the stock market."

"Yeah, well, I gotta go, bye!"

"Wow, Sorry to hear times are so tough for you (Expletive) (Expletive) (Expletive)."

"(Expletive) (Expletive) I'll pray for you."

My parents' reaction:

"We're not going to help, but please keep in touch, we sure are thinkin' about you!"

The worst part:

Out of desperation I even called the church I had gone to for many years. This was the same church Ronald Reagan went to for decades, so you would think these wonderful Americans would help, right? Even though I had given them money over the years to build their newest sanctuary, they were not about to help me when I was homeless...Not all churches are like that. Many churches go out of their way to help the poor. If your church, synagogue, or house of worship doesn’t help the homeless, ask them why.”

Edit: found an archive of the site. https://web.archive.org/web/20041204111553/http://www.ihatemylife.us/story.html

[–]metallicdrama1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"When people see a homeless man with a dog, they think that poor dog" -Chris Rock

[–]jizzledfreq1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Homeless, sleeping in my car... So true...


Feels like the friends who are girls I do have, they don't hit me up, and will flake on plans to chill. It's just ME orbiting...

Feels like when I'm going through some really tough times psychologically... None in my family can be turned to. In their eyes I just need to turn to god... T_T

Society especially doesn't give one fuck...

It kills me because deep down I know, until I'm some ripped beast, with mad dinero, a place of my own, and etc... Society will always see me as trash...

Everyone I know is doing great in there lives, attractive wives, great jobs, kids, homes... They don't even hit me up to say hey no more...

Nowhere to go but up... But then when I'm on the top... I'll feel pretty bitter when all these notches start flockin...

[–]Marino4K0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Glad you’re doing better for yourself OP

[–]Rtat0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men have no inherent value. Its all earned.

[–]Thunderbird930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. I was reading a piece saying that scientifically men are attracted to beauty in women while women are attracted to resources in men. Beauty=Inherent, Resources=Earned

[–]Stupyyy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read Rich Dad Poor Dad if you have free time and Think and Grow Rich. Those will help you a lot.

[–]Thor-Loki-10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to hear updates on the regular.

Saving your post.

[–]bitterbut_true0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well all of that sounds 'great', strong and independent--while you can still do the hikes. While you've still got yr health.

But what if yr back's bad?...what if having a simple shit aint so simple half the time; or you can't hold yr bladder properly; or you've got a chronic rash that itches all day and looks terrible ...or you've got developing arthritis and hurts to hold a beer. Chronic fatigue. Y' can't get enough energy into yr head to think straight. I could go on...and on. Then you'll probably be jumping off the Golden Gate; especially if yr stone broke and middle aged. So until then, suck it up, work and...ENJOY! :)

And yes its true...women truly believe the world owes them a living especially if they've had a kid...and the rest of us can GF.

[Irish cream whiskey is a worthy drop; along with a large juicy steak. Lift yr spirits :)

[–]boomer_be_mad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

God bless you, and good luck to the world because you seem to be ready to make it your bitch

[–]jonadragonslay0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So all these times you were denied entry you were cleanly dressed and showered? You a Marine? So you kept your cool with everyone while looking for a spot? I'm a Marine and I see a lot of us go from 0 to 100 real quick. The whole world's against me narrative needs to be dropped. Did you ever ask the senior to make boot camp easier? No. I know you didn't. There are few to none shelter options. Ok. Men complaining never got us anywhere. Now's the time to get started. Now's the part of your story that will inspire other men. I believe in you bro. McDonald's is always hiring.

[–]Dallosaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hope all is well. With that said it's almost humorous seeing Reddit praise Abraham Lincoln for his failures, proving that they were only a testament to his perseverance and strength to keep pushing through hardships but when it's Trump it's always "HAHAHA RETARD YOU HAD 300 BUSINESSES AND 50 OF THEM FAILED, HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE ORANGE MAN?" Just something I've noticed.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

May I ask what's your injury and is it mental and/or physical? The things happened to you makes it seem like you are not thinking straight or you have some significant disadvantages in your physical capabilities/speech or something similar. The treatment you got everywhere makes no sense towards a man who walks, talks, speaks, smells and looks like a normal decently dressed individual.

Are you moving around looking like a bum because people shoo you away and you are having extremely difficult time to have even an entry level job? I may be naive and not understanding your situation but this post really makes me wonder that wtf.

[–]luveye0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

how old are you are you now ?

[–]oldslut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

really glad to hear you found a place and some work. may each day be better than the last. great work pushing though!

[–]amphix3390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Happy fucking New Year brother

[–]amphix3390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Happy fucking New year brother

[–]shawndamanyay0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't entirely agree and this is with EXPERIENCE.

Dallas International Street Church.

They have a church front end, and for anybody who will stay at the church for 3 days (to make sure they are detoxed) they have a home out in the country for MEN. The men have to abide by the program and the rules and the idea is to set them up to make them part of society again.

They actually do care. For both men and women. This has nothing to do with the Red Pill. This is more of a bash on homeless institutions.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I haven't been in this shitty of a state but I have gleaned what it's like to be homeless, twice. People really do not give a shit about you. It was almost fun and at very least gave me more perspective of the world. I say almost fun because it was only for a night each time and it was interesting to see how resourceful I could be. Each time I was black out drunk at the start and sobered up over the course of the night in a bus stop.

Met a number of interesting characters the first time but the second it was just me and the cold. I swear I still felt the cold in my bones months after the fact.

A girl at a kiosk in the nearby mall let me use her phone and I told her she was an angel. A small act of kindness feels immense when you've been feeling shit out of luck.

That laser focus from anger is also true. The absolute angriest I ever was in my life allowed me to perform a feat that I have never had the will to replicate since. Seething rage gives you a ton of energy.

[–]Trailblazernorth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome back, homelessness is a revealing and freeing experience for anyone who makes it through. Well done bud

[–]JeNaiKe0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing grinds my gears more than the "nice" and "for the community" shit that in the full picture is just another way of fucking you over...

[–]SocietalEngineering0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Been here. Absolutely insane how no one cares. Took me so long to accept it.

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Not the right sub for this (and to all that responded).

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[–]jm510 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your post reminds me of a guy that I've seen once in a while for the last 10 years or so. (He has stayed within the area I shop.)

At first he was selling The Big Issue. It's a magazine sold by the homeless in the UK. Sort of legalised panhandling. The guy had a real attitude when sales were low. He later took to outright begging. Even more entitlement if your coins did not become his coins. The last time I saw him, he was anger on a stick.

You were not angry when people helped you. Your plate, the person at the Marriot, whoever hired you...

Give up the anger, it's counter productive.

[–]Johnfeb940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's because homeless women are less of a threat than men and are less likely to do anything risky like steal something or attack you because of lower testosterone

[–]kayne2000-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Homeless and having a plate and then not being willing to sleep there

I call bullshit

[–]1studentsensei[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There was literally no way for me to sleep there long term. She had an apartment with roommates and it was against her lease agreement to allow overnight guests for more than two consecutive days. She also lived in an area where I couldn't find work or a living space for myself.

Regardless, why put yourself in a position to be living off the whims of someone else? Especially a woman?

[–]TheBunk_TB0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

When I wasn't bunked on a ship, I had a gf that stayed with a friend's family. They wouldn't put up with too much before she had to go back across town. And I had to get back to a bunk. She got evicted three times . The apt complexes that were worth a damn didn't let you stay during the week.

[–]skizzum97-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Is homelessness as low as SMV can go? Or can it go lower?

[–]European-American692 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well this guy was getting pussy while homeless, so yes it can go way lower.

[–]alexman91-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

when i go t sh t faced drunk and passed ou t on a bench securi t guard were awful and harassing me. t he t rea t people like shi t

[–]1laserdicks-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you're a man who doesn't star in movies for women no one gives a fuck about you.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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