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Why I think Jordan Peterson is an alpha nad his frame should be an example for what is preached on TRP

January 24, 2018


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Title Why I think Jordan Peterson is an alpha nad his frame should be an example for what is preached on TRP
Author Eclectiqque
Upvotes 64
Comments 13
Date January 24, 2018 1:48 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]3whatsthisgarg13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

This is really why there is TRP: you young guys have very little guidance and some really pathetic examples of masculinity. So it is good to identify these kinds of sources.

I grew up in the 1970s, watching Clint Eastwood movies and listening to Frank Sinatra. My Way is my theme song. It doesn't matter if everything doesn't go right, I did it my way, and so it makes it virtually right.

In the past, we had public intellectuals like (just off the top of my head) Norman Mailer, Arthur Koestler, and Jacob Bronowski, who were fucking brilliant writers and also just balls-out masculinists.

I'm not a big fan of Mailer so much, but check him out just for his attitude.

Read Koestler's recent biography, it is very entertaining. One woman complained to him "I don't like being pinned down like a butterfly" (during sex) and he said "I like pinning you down like a butterfly." She didn't leave. He also (probably) "coerced" a younger woman to commit suicide with him when he was sick and she was 20 years younger -- not an admirable thing to do, but the power the man had to get her to do that is.

Bronowski was a mathematician who was also a Blake expert--we don't have these kinds of people around anymore. His major public contribution was the BBC series The Ascent of Man. He unapologetically repeatedly says the word "man" when he means "humans." I watched this with a woman who would say she was a steely feminist and she didn't say a fucking word about it.

AMA bro; I've been swatting away shit tests and maintaining boundaries for decades.

[–]Nuevahombre1231 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Alright, since you said AMA, question for you: did you ever go through a dry spell? If so, how did you maintain your confidence with women through it?

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Obviously not OP, but I can answer this.

The longer you play the plate-spinning game, the more plates you drop and pick up (ideally upgrading), the higher the chances of you having a plate you dropped in the past that would jump at the chance to bang. I've got a couple slump-busters that I know will pick up the phone when I call. They're certainly less attractive than girls I'm with now, but when you're in a dry spell the most important thing is maintaining your frame of abundance.

If you don't have any sure things saved in your phone, just stick it out, and keep following your RP principles. Abundance mentality. The lays will come. It can be easy to start becoming outcome dependent, I've been through this myself a couple times.

[–]3whatsthisgarg0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright, since you said AMA, question for you: did you ever go through a dry spell? If so, how did you maintain your confidence with women through it?

I am somewhat ashamed to say that I never had a dry spell longer than 30 days. And part of that I was sick, and another week I was moving cities. Being that successful, you STILL need TRP principles, this shit STILL holds. Outcome independence. Have other shit to do than women.

[–]Eclectiqque[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I grew up in the 1970s, watching Clint Eastwood movies and listening to Frank Sinatra

I smiled when you said this. I often find myself giving examples of the period of time where figures like JFK and Frank Sinatra were cherished as they were symbols of masculinity - will start using C. Eastwood as well from now on

My Way is my theme song

I have no words for appreciating this. I think it's even better if that was part of your early ages

Regarding about the other examples, I will look into them - I have to admit I never heard of them. Which initially looked like a problem as masculinity is not a "public" social value. On the other hand, I'll be grateful that it's easier for us, men here, to take advantage of it with a very hard entry point rather than a world where masculinity is cultivated and we'd have a more competitive society.

@AMA: Would you be ok with conversing on PM?

[–]3whatsthisgarg0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

In addition to Clint Eastwood I would add Lee Marvin, who was a complete badass. Check out Point Blank and watch Angie Dickinson try to beat on him while he just stands there LOL. Also James Coburn. These guys weren't just actors, they were the real deal. Their real-life style went right into their work.

@AMA: Would you be ok with conversing on PM?

Yeah man, here or there. Did you get any info on why this was removed?

[–]Eclectiqque[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

this post wasn't removed - the other one was. PM'd you

[–]DoubleTappp3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

If you think something is worth reading, best make sure the title has all the words spelled right.

Attention to detail kiddo.

[–]Zran2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shouldn't we be able to overlook small mistakes it what otherwise is a good read?

[–]ArnoldSwarzepussy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

While I see where you're coming from, the saying, "The devil's in the details," exists for a reason, and it rings especially true with language. You need to be able to effectively and properly communicate your ideas to people. Otherwise they won't be able to grasp the idea you're putting forth because you can't adequately articulate your own thoughts. This, in turn, will make people lose respect for you. After all, how can you respect a person's whose ideas seem so poorly structured and thought out?

Why should you care about who respects you and who doesn't, you might ask. Because a person who has garnered a lot of respect, be it from his peers, his superiors, or his underlings, is a person who has also garnered a lot of status and influence. I don't think I need to elaborate on why status and influence are good things to have.

Even if we take respect out of the equation, you still have the even worse problem of not being capable of communicating with people. Maybe you had a really great idea about whatever the topic at hand was, but that doesn't matter now because you can't explain it to anyone.

Tldr: Better grammar leads to a better communicative abilities, which are important and desirable no matter what your life's path is leading you to.

[–]chancechants0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Clean your rooms buckos. Love JP.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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