TL:DR - Knowing how to play with women is far more important than taking them seriously, because what they say is never as serious as how they feel that moment.

I am re-sharing this from a comment (with some edits) I made elsewhere. Just to point out how the ironic nature of women is really because they have such flimsy frame and are creatures of the moment.

"....Women actually have an off button where they are not sexual or aroused enough (in that moment) to get going. Men do not have this problem because they're in a giving proactive position both biologically and otherwise, they do not have an on/off button from this frame. But women definitely do. The theory that women want sex as much as men is a very imprecise statement - what they do need is the psychological stimulation, but the physical aspect of their sexuality is receptive and not a drive like that of men.

EDIT : That's why male prostitution by females doesn't exist. It's also why females hate porn but love romance novels.

There was a story about a guy on his wedding night, when his wife tells him, "We're not having sex. I need time." He knows a romance story that goes just like this, he proceeds to do that his way, not getting even slightly put off. She knows the story too, and eventually can't believe it's really happening to her. He keeps at it, she just falls into his frame, gets playful with him, they do cute stuff, she then gets turned on and the rest is history. (Quora often does have a few honest confessions, and in this case, it was hers).

There was one of my friends, a former classmate in school (now a part time SJW) who wanted to be a good girl waiting for marriage, who nevertheless ironically posted a big wall of text on her FB about the 'patriarchal idea' of wedding nights and marrying a stranger. I had to laugh because when they're turned on and in love, they won't even wait for the second date, forget marriage. I even told her that, only for her to come up with a huge wall of rationalizations. LOL that...

In my BP days I would have really taken this seriously and (I did) fail the shit test. Now it's all so clear I even like poking fun at it. If anything, these good girls are just horses waiting to be unleashed, then you won't believe what they do, because they're totally unprepared for the intensity of it. Unfortunately this also makes them prime candidates for alpha widowing.

Women do not lie as much as they truly believe their solipsistic reality in that moment. The shit test isn't even as much of a deliberate test as it is an actual subconscious state in that moment. Dem hamsters..."

That's yet another reason why women behave in ironic ways, give such poor advice and why men shouldn't rely on what they keep saying. She should enter your frame, you can't enter hers because her frame is a fluid thing with really flimsy foundation. You can't trust her seriously, but you can pull her strings.

That's also why "If only she'd tell me what to do" never works, because she doesn't have a strong frame. The real problem is only that she isn't attracted to you, everything else is only a symptom. She's trying to fix the symptoms, but it doesn't work because the real problem is at the root - in fact that is only making it worse.

When she's turned on and escalated, she will change into a different animal. This is the part that no one outside of here really wants to admit. So that's why you can't take women seriously, if you know what to do.

Strictly speaking, all these rules, consequences, karma, ethics, frames, codes of conduct, principles, algorithms, boundaries - these are all masculine in nature. The feminine nature really has little consideration for these things and only follows the strongest emotion of the moment. That's why women love the boys who break the rules made by others and make their own rules.

Following strong emotions is actually a good thing with focused feeling, but when women's minds are agitated (which is almost always), they are a seething mass of conflicting emotions and everything built on such a (lack of) frame is chaotic and contradictory. But the masculine can put a frame for them to enter and play within those boundaries.

Most women in the past were only bound by social shame more than actual awareness of living a self destructive life - because emotion and fear of consequences are what worked best with them. Feminism is just the new herd. Otherwise nothing changed.

Bottom line : Don't rely on her nearly as much as her relying on you.

PS : But that's also why you need to take care of the part afterwards and keep yourself safe from false rape claims. They can be made to change back - a little bit of herd pressure and ASD will do it. See, it all depends on which emotion dominates - that moment.