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Women reaching the age of 25~30 suddenly become Tradcon

April 30, 2017
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This is a hilarious phenomenon that I'm seeing more and more around me the last couple of years, even inside my family.

Women that rode the CC, some not even THAT hard, but enjoyed the freedom of being in the power position of being a young girl in the "sexual market". Suddenly becoming traditional, religious and conservative when they realize they are getting older.

Some will start going to church, have a new religion, slut-shame, shame guys that don't want commitment, start erasing stuff from her past... The list of "tricks" goes on and on and on.

All of this disguised as "growing up".

I predict a swarm of new "tradcon" young adult/middle-age/older women comming in the horizon. Women that are getting to the age where they can't compete with the younger girls, are quickly losing their looks and don't really want to work and be childless for the rest of their lives.

All of this in a world of VERY few marriage-material men. In a world of men that either have given up on commitment or on life.

I just hope all you guys remember that women have brought the shit-show for themselves, and DON'T FALL FOR THE TRADCON TRAP. Remember who you are really dealing with, nothing will ever be enough to satisfy these women. The attention they've had in their youth, the validation, etc. Won't be satisfied in the very long term (long enough to raise a child).

I will always say that women that are over 25 aren't LTR material. They are at the age where the best of their youth is gone, she has seen and done all there is to see and do. Serious dating is mostly a job now. Beware of these women.

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Title Women reaching the age of 25~30 suddenly become Tradcon
Author 103342
Upvotes 590
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Date April 30, 2017 1:57 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]RIPelliott206 points207 points  (43 children) | Copy Link

Was fucking a girl, only 23 I believe, and was surprised at what a freak she was despite having only slept with three guys. I pressed and pressed, and guess what? She didn't consider anything she did in high school as "counting". So the stats were post high school onwards. Will never understand that reasoning.

[–][deleted] 127 points128 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I was fucking a girl of 22, her number was 8.....Whats the rule for women? Add a zero? ;) I thought fine, she was a crazy horny fuck....a pro.

Anyway I remember us talking a few months in about our number again and shit. She goes yeah my number is 8, I said don't you mean 9?

She looked at me confused and I was like.....it was 8 before we fucked right? So it's 9?

She was like ummm oh yeah, umm yeah 9, like all flustered and looked really uncomfortable. Like she'd been found out or exposed.

The question is how long has she been saying its 8 for :) I'm guessing a while.

[–]phaed59 points60 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

She looked at you confused because she thought you had caught her cheating on you. In that space of a few seconds she was pumped with a massive amount of adrenaline as she iterated through the list of guys she fucked on the side trying to figure out which one it was you caught her with, that is until you let her off the hook with your "now its 9 cause of me". The uncomfortableness after was her not knowing whether you were wise on what she did and are now fucking with her pretending not to know to gague her reactions, or are still trully ignorant of it all.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Yep, you got it.

This relationship ended as even her pretend number of 8 was WAY too high at 22, I told her that I think I was a virgin at 22 :) (Im 34)

She always said any negative thoughts I had about her past or her present was all my own issues.

I said why? aren't men allowed to choose what they want? Why do we have to settle and indulge your bad life choices?

She was a walking red flag though, she would send me pics early on of her, like on holiday or out partying or selfies etc then drop in a random pic of her with a black guy with his arm around her.(I think an ex)

So then 1-2 mins after sending she messages 'You mad at me?' I don't see these pics for an hour or so as I was at work...and am like what? Mad at you for what?

She got all angry and defensive for no reason, I'm guessing she was testing me? When I didn't play her games she got angry? Im not sure what was happening with that one :/ still confused about that.

[–]willowhawk6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some people are just fucked in the head. Kinda like how some guys are fucked in the head and act like a lost boy

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

she's right that her number is your problem. it's your own insecurities surfacing here

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, she would make me and the relationship insecure by her promiscuity.......by her being a slut she would never make us secure again.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is there a societal double standard here? Women sleeps with men and they are seen as sluts but if a man sleeps with many women, they are applauded

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

/Sigh

Really? No-one has ever countered you with this argument ever? You really don't know why?

A light hearted and funny but simplistic explanation to help you

https://youtu.be/gJhiHlDf3l4

[–]Dragon_Garoo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've noticed a lot of women try to create drama/jealousy in order to 'make it up to you'. Create tension/feels to show you care so they can hook you. If you laugh it off, or ignore it, it drives them crazy and they want to 'talk about it' etc.

[–]failingtheturingtest1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This relationship ended
I told her
She always said
I said why?

So you argued with her about why you're allowed to break up. I bet you wish you had that time back

[–]Tre_Walker0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

She WAS testing you. I also never met a woman who didn't try to s-test men with race, ethnicity or gender to provoke sexual jealousy. It can be very subtle. White women in particular will use any black (and other races) man at work, her past or casual aquaintance to try and test and dread white men. Black women do the same to black men but I don't believe at the same levels. Again AWALT but WW are the masters at this game.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo

But what was the right reaction, if you react badly or with jealousy or show contempt for her you lose instantly right? Test failed?

I just ignored it and wasn't bothered anyway, so is that a pass?

Or in her head is it either fail the test or just 'here comes the next one' if you don't react?

[–]artemvs33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Smiley faces. Found a Russian. ;)

[–]bolupua-3 points-2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry why would you ask this question? it's stupid, the girl can and will lie. She will answer whatever is what you want to hear. It's a creepy question anyway.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course they can lie, the point of the post was her having a stock phrase she says, along with all the other stock phrases most women use.

The point was she was on auto pilot and reading off a script like most women do.

When I questioned it and she couldn't lie her way out of it, she panicked as she went rogue and off script and didn't know what to say.

Watching her getting caught off script is the point of interest.

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I have heard in person some girls not "counting" some guys and lowering their n-count when they only slept with the guy one time. She told me verbatim. "Well, it was just one time, so it doesn't count." I was pretty shocked when I first heard a girl say this, I knew that certain girls will say this because I had other dudes told me girls will say such a thing, but hearing it in person right next to HITS your soul harder.

I asked her, "Did the dick go inside the vagina?", "So does this mean I can be in a relationship and have ONS and it wouldn't count right?", her hamster rolls a bit and reluctantly agrees that it counts...She gave me lower N-count first...

[–][deleted] 68 points69 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because since she was under 18, she wasn't an adult and "couldn't consent to any sex"

[–]Ganaria_Gente8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unless he's male and both were under 18

In which case he and only he can be considered rapist

[–]2kevin3251 points52 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because a high N-count makes her appear slutty and "used-up", which reduces her prospects for long-term commitment as she approaches the Wall, not to mention the social stigma. So she lies to keep up a "good girl" appearance.

[–]Dragon_Garoo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is because, despite the 'no slut shaming' movement amongst 3rd wave feminists, women STILL get upset if they are perceived as a slut. They are NOT proud of it.. so they hide it. They know, deep in their core, that men are ok to bang a slut... but we do not wan to BE WITH a slut. I've told this directly to a friend that lost her shit when I sorta mocked a dude that was cringing over wanting to fuck her, but was worried about her ex. She lost her shit when I said "what do you care man, just fuck the slut". He BP'd and told her cuz well, beta... and she lost her shit on me. I laughed and said "So don't be a slut?!?" She hamstered about how selective she is, etc., etc... meanwhile she's on a prostitution website. Uh huh.

Deep in their core they are always hoping you'll be the next provider... that dream of a Alpha/Chad that can provide... so they hide their true nature.

[–]plutosheen15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Watch their actions, not their words.

[–]SilverGryphon2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

here here

Its like when they say they don't care about looks but do the exact same opposite. You need to take whatever they say with a pinch (or jar) of salt

[–]Eternasphere23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucked a girl from Mexico. She said she only had one boyfriend. She didn't count anything since immigrating lmao

[–]cuntrolbot12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If they 'change characters' they feel it is legitimate, because all guys really care about is if they are a slut right now.

[–]acetylcysteine3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I've done all that freaky stuff, I'm over it now." Said a 24 year old the other day.

[–]DontTreadOnSnek4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Three guys"

More like thirty, lets be honest here.

[–]hamsterenema0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a powerful hamster right there.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla75 points76 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

See redpillwives for a current example.

[–]2kevin3238 points39 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

There's also the recently created r-WhereAreAllTheGoodMen.

[–]redpillthrowaway11210 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a pretty good sub, would recommend.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Another one, unrelated to this post but to MGTOW in general is r-GentlemenOnly...we don't discuss women at all.

[–]alexclarkbarry2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

highly agree, there is some gold on there. Especially the "21 year old pregnant single girl who slut shames"

[–]dissentforall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had to check to make sure this wasnt a joke.

[–]Groose641 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just wondering, what do you find so bad about RPW? From what I saw it seems like they agree mostly with TRP ideas.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get it through your head. "she is not on your team" if they had free reigb, this place would be "building a better beta"

From the few i know, it was just as described. Hit 30, found jesus, and now tradcon, telling other girls to do the same.

Case in point. A conversation about n counts. One of the rpwi mocking one of the rp guys, because of low count, and how she fucked more women then him...

Then next day talking tradcon shit.

Now, this isnt a sleight to point and laygh at hypocracy, theres no value in there.

The value is in this. Dont listen to what she says, watch what she does. In this case, an rp friendly woman should put you on guard more than anything, she knows the languagw to better manipulate your frame.

Which is fine, thats what they do. Just be smart, dont be a simp

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreeing/appropriating our ideas only because they want to/found the need to, maximize their own advantages. Its different from our methodologies to snare pussy and get sex, because when they appropriate our RP ideology, there are still tons of women in there who take the ideas from RPW which are useful for them and discard those which they dont want to follow/might deride them from enjoying/having the life they want to have. Just look in the past few threads in RPW over the last few weeks and you will understand why. Everyone in that sub-reddit has conflicting views of what RPW is,.. they choose whatever they feel is good for them/to maximize their advantage,... which while I agree RP ideas/methods are amoral .. .. But as men, we must be wary of them .. so i have no problem what they do with RPW knowledge but I dont want to get caught with them, or accidentally fall in the trap of a woman without having known that she was RPW. Unlike them, we dont choose what we feel is best and discard what we feel is worst. For e.g. AWALT - we agree this is the only path to choose (never mind the few that are NAWALT) . .. we dont choose some ideas which we feel are good and discard some which we feel are not good. Half of us TRPers dont have conflicting views of what RP signifies (we all believe in the same version of the same basic idea), . .. . unlike half of the women in RPW .

Only some of the post-wall old married Mods in RPW(and thus old and wise) follow RPW ideas in the strictest sense, which might also be because those women now cant do the things they could do when they were young, and thus they have to choose RPW path of life, and not because they want to.

[–]QruCiFiX1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

hahahaha you are a fucking savage. Most of them aren't even redpilled they think they are but they are not.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Im not savage, this is basic observation

[–]Ganaria_Gente0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Rpw is like another universe

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Redpillwomen is not redpillwives.

But yes

[–]Banincoming34 points35 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

"rode the CC, some not even THAT hard"...they just hid it better. If a casual acquaintance you saw once a month in person was fucking 3 guys a night via tinder 16-30, how would you know?

[–]JackGetsIt53 points54 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Most women don't hide their high N count well.

Here are some signs I've seen:

-relationship starts well but she quickly gets bored

-Says that she's never had a long relationship

-Never lets you meet her friends

-Wants to avoid certain spots

-Says she doesn't like anal, kink stuff or mentions is way to early.

-mentions sexual abuse very very early.

-Very worried about you cheating

-Acts very different when drunk, doesn't cling to you.

-Constantly says how loyal she is.

-Doesn't ever bring up ex's.

-Freaks out in certain sex positions (sign of rape or abuse)

-tattoos and heavy smoking habit.

-can't keep job down.

-avoids talking about her family or her past. Shit tests randomly after not shit testing you for a while.

-pees/poop with door open and strangely comfortable with invading space and being gross.

-very worried about giving it up to you the first night but seems like she wants to fuck you badly.

-has an intense hatred towards cheaters.

[–]1empatheticapathetic27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My oneitis was a virgin. She still couldn't stop jumping from STR to STR starting with me. Getting bored is just a woman thing because they have so many options.

[–]SlothOnRoids5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, a good portion of those signs fit my chick.

[–]scarletspider39 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You should also add

-resentment of men (result of men now seeing her as not LTR worthy)

-demands a lot (due to her expecting status =to the sum total of all the men in her past)

[–]JackGetsIt10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

demands a lot (due to her expecting a sum total of all the men in her past

This is spot on and since she has a high count that's a lot to compete with. Women can't bear the thought that they've taken a step down in lifestyle as well.

[–]scarletspider31 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. First they get a guy with a car and then a guy with his own place. Then she wants the third guy to have a car and his own place. Then the expectations just continue to rise from there.

[–]dissentforall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah man, demanding is just something they all do. Even the most conservative women who marry young are demanding as hell. The only difference is the man and how he deals with this shit. Women have evolved to extract resources from men to survive. In fact if they didn't demand certain amount of things, I would think she's just using you as a cover (pretend bf) or some other shit.

[–]1nonthaki3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You really do get it , Jack .

[–]Jenna_272 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The part about not keeping a job down is so unbelievably true. Most whores are actively looking for a man with money and can't take care of themselves or do anything for themselves.

Also add:

-doesn't have a solid group of girl friends, or changes her group of girl friends regularly

-has primarily sexual pictures on social media

-tends to paint herself as a victim, or is always looking for someone to blame during tough situations (external locus of control)

-Fem-nazi. Most Fem-Nazis love the feminist message because it allows them to whore around with mental "justification"

-Gold digger tendencies

-places more value on her sexuality than any other characteristic or personality trait

-Started having sex before the age of 17

And on that last note, also if you find a woman who was a virgin during her first LTR or the girl who was the virgin way after all of her friends, there is a solid chance that she will keep her number low throughout life.(if she is an 8 to 10) She will be a freak in bed but prefer one guy.

This is because through experience she understands that if she is looking for a guy who wants an LTR having sex with men who want casual sex does nothing to increase her chances of actually dating the LTR types. (Most women live under that delusion as a coping mechanism for their sluttiness)

She is not a woman TRPrs will waste time on because she doesn't put out fast enough but if someone find a girl like this as a plate and is considering an LTR, or someone is looking for this type of girl to try and "turn for fun" her traits are very obvious.

She is also the type that seems to have relationships and is not single much. She is grossed out by the idea of having multiple partners.

If you ever go for this type of chick, you will need to downplay the number of girls you have been with tremendously. She will not be attracted to men that she thinks has more partners than the average guy his age.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

-Very worried about you cheating

-has an intense hatred towards cheaters.

I want to pitch in here because this is something that caught my attention as well.

Women who have a very low opinion of men, cheaters, women who go after married men etc. (and I am not just talking about the usual disdain for these, but, as you said, intense personal hatred only those people have who have experienced it first hand); and also those women who constantly complain that there aren't any nice men and how all men are assholes - abort.

Because women who feel the pressure to constantly moan about how dissatisfying their love life was and how shitty their partners were have a habit of picking shitty partners (or, alternatively, they're drama queens who drive away their guys and refuse to own up to this on top of that).

So unless you're playing the role of the asshole as well, you're part of her AF/BB-script. => abort.

[–]Kimmruriel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bruh. Yes. Hell yes. My favorite thot has most of these markers.

[–]1empatheticapathetic9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He doesn't know any better...yet.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure no woman in the history of the world has banged 13,000 dudes lol

[–]Banincoming0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Many hookers have. Here's an article about one who did it between 18-33. http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5555055

[–]menial_optimist points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You just exactly described my brothers wife.

  • Ages 14-23 was highly sexually active
  • Had lesbian experiences
  • Dated hard drug dealers who were ugly
  • Became addicted to coke
  • People I know who knew her "back in the day" only go as far as to describe her as "No angel"
  • Heard stories of her getting wasted at parties and then being gangbanged or sucking like 4 dicks at one party
  • Age 23-24 discovers Jesus
  • Changes her whole life, leaves the drugs/sex/partying behind
  • Within 1 year meets my bro
  • It is revealed she does like him, but is "saving her sexuality for marriage", literally wat.jpg
  • She even goes so far as to dislike swearing, violent movies, sex in movies etc
  • For a long time my bro complied and made efforts not to swear in front of her
  • This girl once showed me a video while they dated on youtube where a guy slow motioned a beyonce video saying she was possesed by a satanic demon, and she believed it fully
  • They dated for 1.5-2 years
  • Suddenly out with us bros one night he announces he is getting married
  • Ask him why marriage tho, and why her happiness is more important to him than his own
  • "She wants it, and I don't care", also "It just is", hinting that she was pressuring him for marriage.
  • Their marriage is at a local tourist spot in the mountains, but I and all of our close mutual friends are not invited.
  • Fast forward 4-6 months
  • We are at his wifes sisters house having drinks along with our mutual friend
  • His wife gets very drunk, starts acting very weird wanting me to hold her hands, so I go sit on the couch, she follows, asks me questions like "menial_optimist, what am I to you?" and saying shit like "Menial_optimist, I love you". Kinda awkward.
  • Tired from the night I leave to go for a walk alone.
  • According to our mutual friend, my bros wife kept telling him "I want to walk home with your friend"
  • Bro says no, so they all leave together
  • They're all walking down the road together, she's holding both her husbands hand and our mutual friends hand
  • While the husband is looking off at the sky in another direction, she takes the mutual friends hand and grows her tits with it while staring directly at him, biting her lip, when he recoils she tries to force his hand to her pussy
  • Mutual friend tells me about it was we're driving home, we agree never to tell husband bro

I could go on.

Another thing I've noticed is that despite being all "I love you baby" and "You're my soulmate" while sober, whenever she gets drunk she very quickly and easily is able to disrespect him as if he were a worthless beta.

[–]PATAK_KE_MARUNGA points points [recovered] | Copy Link

GET. HIM. OUT. OF. THIS.

For your bro's sake.

[–]menial_optimist points points [recovered] | Copy Link

All along the way I've tried to ask questions to which the response usually is:

"I trust her completely. [Why?], She's my wife." "I've accepted her past, that isn't her anymore" "She even admits she gets a little flirtatious when drunk, but she would never even think about acting on it" "I think you need to stop reading that redpill shit, those guys have no idea what they're talking about"

Watch what people do, not what they say is extremely true. E.g. two Saturdays ago we were at his wifes sisters bday party and people there who had known her for years kept joking how a few birthdays before while drunk she accepted a date from some guy they knew and something else along those lines. She responded that ya she would be flirty but she would never act on it.

I physically cringed from the hypocrisy considering I knew she groped herself with our mutual friends hand and probably would have went all the way had circumstances been favorable, definitely crossing the line between "being a little bit flirty".

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You really need to man up and tell him all the things that she has done, like the groping herself with the dude's hands. He needs to know.

[–]RubyOrchid1335 points36 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not going to get husband bro to leave or come to any revelation. He will hamster it away as a one time thing, say she made a mistake and think she will never do it again. Which we all know is absurd. You can lead a man to reason, but you can't make him think.

[–]gistaminute11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've been the man with the hamster. I would have written it off as a one time thing, as I did. Indeed, lead him to reason like TRP does.

My dick is clean and the hamster is in a cage, that's all that matters now.

[–]bluedrygrass3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But al least op will have no responsibility. He'd done his part. Right now, he's an abetter.

Imagine if the husband opens his eyes 15 years from now. And ask op if he knew and why didn't he tell him exactly what was going on instead of suggesting abstract hypotheticals.

Imagine if the pain of being betrayed for 15 years by his friends too is too much and he kills himself.

[–]Toussant0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've met folks in this situation who luckily got divorced and wised up later. Just takes some people more time than others.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I trust her completely. [Why?], She's my wife." "I've accepted her past, that isn't her anymore" "She even admits she gets a little flirtatious when drunk, but she would never even think about acting on it" "I think you need to stop reading that redpill shit, those guys have no idea what they're talking about"

And that's the problem with bluepill propaganda - the absurd idea that women are sincere as a rule and that you take what they say at face value.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can lead a horse to water. You can't make it drink.

[–]marplaneit7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have been in this position, you cannot save them. I tried and killed relationship, now I just wait for them and tell them "I fucking told you"

[–]ethreax points points [recovered] | Copy Link

This is a philosophical problem. Yes a bro should help another bro, but should we enlight those who don't want to be? You can give hints of the RP, but never draw somebody to it, they need to find it alone

[–]OverthinkerTRP11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This was his brother, not some bro

[–]Philletto3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I gave my brother the phrase MGTOW to look up because his wife is not treating him right. You can't make your brother understand unless he wants to. For many people they would rather not know than face it.

[–]UnKnownSurviving2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Indeed. If guys like him, don't wanna be saved, alright, fine. That is shit is totally on him. I'm dipping my dick in random pussy or off to some projects of mine. If he comes back, with his tail tucked under, I'll know why. I'll just ghost him for the next few days, mainly, because I was pissed off he didn't listen. And some shit happened to him, or he found out the truth in another way. Of course, we're still friends, after that. But funny thing, ghosting really is a powerful thing, and sooner or later, I'll respond to him. Just not right now. Sometime, the best thing to handle a conversation is to go "radio silence". For some reasons, dudes like him, always learn the hard way. Or not all.

[–]circedgirlsarecleanr0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Other people's bad decisions are not your responsibility. Bro-knighting is low.

[–]casemodsalt28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude...record her skank ass and show him. Bro's before ho's

[–]JackGetsIt17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

whenever she gets drunk she very quickly and easily is able to disrespect him as if he were a worthless beta.

I've been in several relationships that were going great and the girl was trying to do everything right and then she gets a bit too wasted and slips on how she really feels.

[–]TryhardPantiesON17 points18 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It is revealed she does like him, but is "saving her sexuality for marriage", literally wat.jpg

If a woman have had sex before, and now she is depriving me of sex just because she wants to save it for marriage,this is why i will never take her seriously, in fact, she just disqualified herself for girlfriend material.

[–]UnKnownSurviving3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Same here. I'd never take her seriously. She completely disqualified herself as wife material. I'd never take her. I have a few, rare females friends, that actually lose their virginity after marriage. Very rare females, and while all the rest of them just rode CC. Mostly because the rare ones, were raised in an Orthodox, Sephardic/Hassidic, Jewish communities. Mind you, they're very gorgeous. It's extremely hard to find a woman of quality, who hasn't lost her virginity. Most of them now, just lose it during college, and then, they want to find a husband. After college, of course. Or after they hit the wall.

[–]bluedrygrass0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Most of them now, just lose it during college

Absolutely false.

Most girls in western countries lose their virginity in high school. In fact, it is RARE that a girl reaches college age virgin.

Only the ugly/short/fat/shut ins ones usually do.

And it's not recent either, it is like that since at least 10/20 years.

Only girls with psychological issues/socially undesirable don't manage to be mounted until say 18 years of age.

[–]UnKnownSurviving0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I see. Well, I've been in college longer than high school, and I've been only in and out of high school, during my teens, mostly hanging with regular boring guys, so I don't exactly know what's behind the scenes with "high school" Chads and H5-H8 rated sluts. Plus, I was kind of homeschooled. So, when I got to college, mostly recent-pre-applied college girls were already riding the cocks. It was then I was exposed to everything. And then, there's Hollywood brainwashing as well.

As usual, I'm always late to the game. But yeah. I suppose those sluts did ride the carousel in high school. Personally, I don't give a fuck, now. I'm going MGTOW now. I've been burned. Rejected, which is getting easier, each time I find another girl. But I'm going MGTOW, and I just don't have the time for them. Plenty of time for myself, and my buddies, yeah, but the time for these freaks? That's the whole another level. Don't have time.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

While drunk, she offered her body to him a couples of times but he declined because Honorable Gentleman

Smart gentleman. Do not fuck a girl who doesn't offer sex when sober but offers herself to you when drunk.

Everything else he is doing is very stupid but this is the one thing he did right.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that he married her.

[–]Returnofthemack313 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

why the fuck would you 'agree to never tell him'. I mean sure, he might react unfavorably, might even blame you at first, but at least you tried. If you value him at all, tell him. What he does with that information is on him then

[–]drallcom3 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Their marriage is at a local tourist spot in the mountains, but I and all of our close mutual friends are not invited

Well, he's lost. Not inviting your own brother to your wedding...

[–]5t3fan07 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

holy shit, your brother sounds like a child with a loaded gun.... in a room full of gasoline and nitro.

when she gets pregnant (from him or some plumber) he will be totally screwed

[–]menial_optimist points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Their first born daughter is already 5 months old. The nail has been hammered into the coffin.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mind your own business seriously, it's not that hard, something is wrong with you people.

[–]bluedrygrass2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

we agree never to tell husband bro

That's still wrong. He's a dumbass, but the more this story goes on, the worst he'll suffer.

Tell him in anonymous way, but tell him.

[–]UnKnownSurviving2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"It is revealed she does like him, but is "saving her sexuality for marriage", literally wat"

That line, from the list, is just fucking hilarious. I couldn't stop cracking up. If I was there, with you and her, I'd probably burst out laughing. She might have taken it as an insult. But you know, watch what they do, not what they say. It's interesting that they suddenly, become "born-again Virgins", after having serious revelations, just after htting the wall. That logic is just fucked up. Like, waht? My god. I wished I had a meme for this shit.

[–]dissentforall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude wtf, you are not doing him any favors and are actively encouraging long term ruination of him. Unless you hate him, tell him about that shit asap. If you have to wash your hands of them after the fact, then do it...At least he will come back around after everything goes to shit.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp47 points48 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

This is an extension of AF/BB.

DON'T FALL FOR THE TRADCON TRAP

Simple, but really valuable lesson to remember.

[–]103342[S] 44 points45 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

We are having a "marriage season" in my family and circle of friends.

It is hilarious how TRP theory applies to 100% of these.

Girls that were "young and free" starting to look wrinkly and cashing out on a "good guy" beta type. All the while posting religious and motivational messages on their recently emptied-out social media profiles.

I even started betting with my brother how long each marriage is gonna last.

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp38 points39 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

All the while posting religious and motivational messages on their recently emptied-out social media profiles.

Predominantly about how they value themselves and time now. Along the lines of "if someone doesnt give you their 100% they dont deserve you" or some bs like that.

[–]103342[S] 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep. Pretty amazing how predictable we are as human beings once you understand the basic instincts of men and women.

[–]gistaminute0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am all for people being tradcon and having self love. I'm just not for the concealed past. But if you attract from AF nature and filter out the BB seekers, you really don't have to worry about it. Every girl who comes over to my place desires the D, even if that isn't very many. I cut the BB seekers because they have incentive to trifle. For a 20 year old Tradcon I'd be AB but the second she starts going sour I'd be on to the next one. Self love is good. I feel more sorry for 25+ y/os for being lied to than malicious for turning around now. It's when they lie about it that I get pissed.

[–]Docbear6421 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

" If you can't handle me at my worst , then you don't deserve me at my best" ... bitch please.

[–]2Overkillengine11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Quoting the patron saint of dumpster fires is of course, another red flag in a woman on its own.

[–]KV-n8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Along the lines of "if someone doesnt give you their 100% they dont deserve you"

which is pretty fucking ironic since they didnt give the years of their "100%" age to the groom

[–]PascalAurel points points [recovered] | Copy Link

This is pretty popular among the girls who just got off the CC in my social circle.
Everytime I see this picture I have to grin.

[–]justgotalpha244 points245 points  (100 children) | Copy Link

i was dating a hb7 26/yo and she was so submissive and agreed on basically anything i would say ,cooked for me and sex was straight outta porn scenes,so i felt i was in control which i thought i was doing things right, even tho my SMV was at its highest at that time,but i knew something was off,i was just not convinced ,i felt like she was not being herself and was just pretending to be a "unicorn" so i digged the hole deeper and found out she had a daughter whom she kept as a secret from me,was bankrupt and was seeing 2 other guys beside me, i learned from that and is to always follow your instincts a "submissive and supportive hot women" does not EXIST she sells you on the illusion only to get your commitment
once she has you where she wants to you will see her real side. i just knew inside of me that the deal seemed too GOOD to be TRUE!!!!

[–]103342[S] 112 points113 points  (57 children) | Copy Link

I always say here and to my close friends. Being 25+ and single is a gigantic red-flag. For me, personally, is a deal breaker for more than casual sex.

Chances are she has some baggage and experience enough to hide the baggage until you are trapped.

Be thankful you weren't trapped with this woman, and that she taught you the valuable lesson.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

Is it possible to land women sub 25 for LTR when you're approaching 30? I'm curious only because I'm 20 and none of my plates have been younger than me by at most a year (for obvious reasons).

If younger chicks are still down to date older men then idk why any guy would go for a woman approximate to his age. Not only are younger chicks hotter, but I've noticed that they pedestalize you and think you're the coolest person they've met. I've never understood why women your age make you jump through so many hoops when girls who are younger are not only more competitive, but they also set the bar lower for you.

[–]bojsihtekat points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm 43 and dating a cool 23 year old who adores me. Honestly, if you're not looking for something serious, you're only as old as you feel.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Huh that's pretty deep, thanks for the insight. I appreciate the perspective from someone on the other side of the SMV curve.

[–]morexel22 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

He's not tho. I'm around his age and date women around 25. We peak around 40.

[–]TryhardPantiesON8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe is because my father has never given me this kind of knowledge to me, that makes me seek the advice from older red pillers in this sub. Thanks.

[–]morexel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Depending on when he was born your father lived under an entirely different rulebook. I wouldn't fault him for not predicting that the upcoming tinder generation would be so fucked up.

[–]Dragon_Garoo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I use the phrase: "You're only as old as the person your feeling". Dating a 26 and 32 yo, have plates that I get together with once in a while that are 25 and 27. Meh.

[–]marplaneit30 points31 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

As a really young med student, pre med girls who are only 2-3 years younger think I'm fucking genius mature guy who has it all sorted out. I love it, but I always remember how only 3 years a go I was treated like less than shit.

[–]ChildhoodChores28 points29 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't ever forget being treated like less than shit. That's when we start thinking we found a "unicorn" that "likes us for us." Value is the name of the game. Thanks for the story.

[–]marplaneit39 points40 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Trust me I won't ever forget it. Girls would often laugh at me when I tried to pick them up in senior highschool. Now when they do the high school Meet-up events, they tell me "You are so mature now""I knew you would make it this far, you were a smart kid""Wow you are working out, uh?". Yeah, NO, fuck you. I am what happen when Pain, determination and hate meet. Years upon years of putting the work with little or nothing to show for, gettin throw in the trash for some petty drug dealer, all that shit made me what I am now. I just don't give a fuck about what people think of me, cause I know it means nothing.

[–]KenMastersMD19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This feeling is a great tool to motivate you to better yourself, but it comes at a great price. I've seen many colleagues as med students and attendings let themselves be consumed by this to the point where it stunts all of their social relationships.

Most certainly a double edged sword.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's crazy right? I'm pre-law and I'm studying for my law school entrance exams. I was on a date with a younger girl who also wanted to be a lawyer and thought I was some huge accomplished guy. A year or so ago women wouldn't bat an eye at me. God do I love getting older.

[–]grewapair14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I had one girl ask me out when I was 38 and she was 17. Ditched that one but then went out with an 18 year old and a 24 year old that year.

[–]bolupua3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a 38 YO friend completely bald that regularly fucks 17-18 YO girls, I saw it myself picking those girls in clubs.

I'm pretty grossed out. It's not for me. I mean even I have limits lol.

[–]103342[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it possible to land women sub 25 for LTR when you're approaching 30?

It goes the same way as long as you live, regardless of your age: If you are good-looking and be often in places with girls/women (independent of age), you will eventually fuck/start relationships with some of these girls/women.

[–]Mckallidon10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

30s are the best decade. Cougars. Omg cougars. 19yos. 25yos. Peers approaching sexual peek. If you don't marry in your twenties, wait til your 40s.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

And still be able to have kids as a 40 y/o newlywed? is that out of the ordinary? I'm not trying to settle down early in my life but I know I wanna be a dad at some point.

[–]Mckallidon12 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Men make kids for much longer than women lol. Just get a young wife in her twenties.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

You're right, it's just I've never met a family with an age dynamic like that- so I don't know what kinda chick you can land for that strategy. Of course the whole conversation is kinda moot anyway at this age, I'll probably settle down when I'm inclined to in my mid 30s.

[–]Mckallidon18 points19 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Stop thinking inside other people's boxes. Do whatever the fuck you want. The best life is the one you envisioned and took for yourself.

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's nice but again if he's never seen it, how likely is it he can achieve it?

[–]Mckallidon-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Based on random internet bullshit, who cares?

[–]icutrauma112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And get that prenup no matter what. If she says, "We have to trust one another", run, just like she practiced that, she has everything memorized for the police and and the judge.

[–]Newreddawn6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As you get older, you will have an easier time getting younger women. This assumes you're spending your 20s focusing on bettering yourself. I'm almost 30 and my ltr is a very attractive 22y/o. Like the other guy said, you have to have a certain mindset where you don't come off as the creepy old guy. She says she constantly forgets how old I am.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a good point. Women love men they can respect and so long as I continue down a path towards my career and self-improvement I should become a respectable man.

What do you mean by coming off as a creepy old guy? Like constantly bringing up your age or something?

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Yes. My last really serious LTR, she was 22 and I was I think 35 at the time we first started dating. Granted she had daddy issues, but that's another story.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

QS about daddy issues, I feel like that's something everyone talks about but isn't really explained well. What exactly does daddy issues mean for dating other than having had a shitty dad? How does it show up in their behavior. Thanks

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't mean she had a shitty dad. Daddy issues is a catch all term for any youngish women who has yet to experience a man she is comfortable fully submitting to. The phrase originated from girls with absent fathers entirely, but given how out of balance intersexual relations are in the West, most girls under 25ish have daddy issues.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't mean to beleaguer the point but I want to fully understand. Submissive in what regard, as in to demands?

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're not. Rollo's newest piece actually touches on this point exactly: https://therationalmale.com/2017/04/30/submission/

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

oh shit thanks man. I'll be sure to read it.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Daddy issues" is just a catch-all term to describe a collection of behaviors, mental issues, etc women have, often directly because of something that happened with their fathers in their youth that made a big (lasting) impression on them.

Things like their dad dying when they're younger, getting diddled by an older man/dad, or any number of things that can color their experience with older men. Women who's dads died might seek approval from older men and be more submissive towards them than they would be with younger guys. Another example is women who were sexually abused or otherwise had sex with an older man might be more sexually aggressive towards older men (and later to men who are their own age as those women get older), as they try to one-up the men's sexuality in a sense as a way of "retaking their sexuality/power".

[–]bolupua0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Is it possible to land women sub 25 for LTR when you're approaching 30?

I'm approaching 40 (38), balding, quite short (5'9). Not very handsome. Quite fit though, I lift a lot.

I got a 21 YO girl (about a 7) obsessed with me, asking me out, sending me texts, etc.

I did nothing, i only showed up to their meetings. Didn't go with her because she was kinda crazy.

[–]ManowaR148842 points43 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

I know one thats just out of a 7 year relationship and about 25 years old - in that case I wouldn't call it a red flag

[–]shadyindividual89 points90 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no absolutes, and there will always be outliers.

[–]103342[S] 22 points23 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Think about it.

This girl was fucked from the ages of 18 to 25 by the same guy. She did everything with this one guy, not just sexual, but day-to-day stuff.

What the fuck was the reason to break-up? There are not many reasons that would make her a good girl.

This girl was basically married with a guy and broke up as she is starting to get older. She knows his family, he knows her family, he is basically family with her. She won't totally cut contact with that guy that she had a relationship with for seven fucking years.

So yeah, I would say its at least a red-flag, if not a deal breaker.

[–]Returnofthemack322 points23 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

yeah but what if the guy left for 'greener pastures'? Happened to a family member of mine, similar time frame, his value incresed and he decided to dip with little explanation.

[–]103342[S] 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Then she is still a 25 yo with a lot of baggage in a world filled with 19 year olds.

[–]trillinair4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

but how to get to the 19y/os is the question. Where do they hide!

[–]Mckallidon11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The sluttiest ones go to the shittiest bars lol.

[–]ManowaR148836 points37 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

He cheated. Small Town everyone knew

[–]103342[S] 29 points30 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I bet you she will get back with him at some point. Girls don't care about cheating if its just sex, they get angry and break-up for a couple of weeks/months, then they will "check up" on how you are and "somehow" she will land on his dick again.

Story as old as time itself.

[–]sfengi points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Youre making it all too clear that you come from a white trash background.

[–]antariusz4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea man, nawalt, if her parents had more money, women wouldn't become alpha-widows.

Lol. GTFO.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good friend of mine recently broke off with his highschool girlfriend after 14 years together. Reason? He hit 30 and got succesful, and now wants to fuck younger girls instead of having kids. Good for him I say, but the girl is really a great girl, and now she's 30. Basically fucked her life over waiting and hoping for a family. It's kinda sad... but fuking young pussy makes you forget all about that.

[–]LandoChronus8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It would depend on why she's now out of that relationship.

Realistically, unless she seriously just got tired of having to take care of her "man" (most men act more like children these days, and since we know girls don't want to be mothers to their men...) why would the relationship not work ? What happened, that after 7 years, either one of them had had enough and decided to walk away ?

It could very well be a BIG red flag, but you have to approach it with your guard up.

[–]plenty_of_eesh48 points49 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Holy RedPill, this is one of the more perverse threads I've ever seen here.

If the prevailing philosophy is that a 25 year old woman with ONE breakup in her entire life is "red flag" material, you guys are absolutely fooling yourselves.

I can think of about three million reasons why a woman got out of a 7-year relationship at 25 that don't reflect badly on her.

I guess if you're in the top 1% of male SMV, you can go find your 18-year-old virgin bride at whatever age you decide to get married, but for most of the readers here, a reality-check is advised.

Edit: I guess this tirade of mine is less for you, LandoChronus and more for OP.

[–]Eternasphere11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Voice of reason right here.

Unless there's more to go on for that "red flag". If she's still sneaking emails with him or something, then I'd be afraid.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is true, however currently I can't locate a girl under 25 who isn't in a LTR already or riding the carousel. I've found a couple fresh out of LTR's that are 22-23 but they either go back to the ex or cash in their ticket to the carousel and begin the ride. Im 28 and it is def a peculiar age bracket I find myself in. But ALL the girls I've dated 25 and up are single for a reason which is usually their a single mom or psycho. Lately I've been considering poaching a woman from a relationship. I get the most attention from those girls and you really only have one competitor. The only issue is if its morally acceptable to you.

[–]theONE843663-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

TRP IS AMORAL STOP MORALIZING!

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman31 points32 points  (31 children) | Copy Link

Quoting myself...

III) Single mothers are incentivized to be manipulative

And finally: Due to their predicament, single mothers will be strongly incentivized to use you, manipulate you, and deceive you. The thing is: if we believe women who are in that situation (and in this case we have no reason not to), being a single mother is hard, exhausting and lonely. And with the hit her romantic prospects have caught due to that state (see above), she's caught between a rock and a hard place, and has ample reason to be a lot more compromising when it comes to dating, albeit with an ulterior motive - expect single moms to be basically wall-hitters on steroids in that regard. [...] Another consequence is also her willingness to nail down a guy at all costs. People in general will be on their best behavior while dating, desperate ones will go far and beyond that and actively try pretending to be unicorns even for completely unremarkable people of the opposite sex - and single moms might even do so for guys they aren't even that attracted to in the first place. She'll be the perfect partner in ever regard - until he's hooked, has put a ring on her and signed the adoption forms, that is.

[–]redpillthrowaway11227 points28 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

Keeping all of that in mind, would it be a good idea to go ahead and date/fuck single moms and just enjoy the action, with no desire to ever put a ring on it?

If a single mom puts on such an amazing show to lock down a man, it should be in the man's best interest to take advantage of that. Fuck her like a porn star and when her manipulation goes too far, bail on her. Of course, only a red pill man could identify said manipulation.

[–]redrummilf10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

youd be smart to get a vasectomy before hand

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Or make sure your rubber hasn't been pinholed.

[–]Eternasphere3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And flush the rubber instead of leaving it in the waste bin

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not enough. I've woken up to a single mother ridding me raw after a night of compulsory condoms.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess we shouldn't be staying over then, should we? You know what that next morning usually leads to anyway, right? LTR.

[–]Mckallidon5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's only as good of an idea as strong as your frame is. Don't get soerjacked or sucked in.

[–]xMusclebeard points points [recovered] | Copy Link

This. So mmuch this. I'm meeting a single mom with 3 kids and a smoking hot body (personal trainer.. she squats bro) for the first time tonight but she's already been sending crazy nudes and even snapchats of her masturbating. Manipulation for sure, but it's gonna be one hell of a night lol

[–]redpillthrowaway1121 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

motherfucker. you spammed me 8 times.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, now you have the opportunity to give him -8 karma for it.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keeping all of that in mind, would it be a good idea to go ahead and date/fuck single moms and just enjoy the action, with no desire to ever put a ring on it?

But of course. Just don't let yourself be roped in.

[–]2kevin328 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Another consequence is also her willingness to nail down a guy at all costs. People in general will be on their best behavior while dating, desperate ones will go far and beyond that and actively try pretending to be unicorns even for completely unremarkable people of the opposite sex

Included a few example dating profiles for perspective.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

These are "make a wish"-lists.

What I am talking about are those stories where women like that actually try their best to really blindsight a guy they've already met even though they are lukewarm at best about him.

[–]2kevin326 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh you're talking some dark-triad, Lucifer's daughter type shit.

I've met women like this that give you this thinly veiled look of disdain behind a pretty smile like Cruella de Vil or Maleficent, and they complain about everyone and everything. Would you know some other initial signs of spotting these kinds of women early on before getting "in too deep"?

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh you're talking some dark-triad, Lucifer's daughter type shit.

Not even that.

Simply women who are desperate and therefore are willing to sacrifice themselves "for the children", and are willing to go to great lengths to do that. And if you got a woman on your hands who for example has two kids by two fathers and a rather poor opinion of men as a consequence of this and can only count on the gullibility of a poor sap who has few to none options otherwise... what do you think will happen?

[–]1empatheticapathetic11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good job for realising. You could have gotten trapped.

[–]sd4c5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Credit check ASAP before any LTR. A person can't hide malignant narcissism from the banks.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Atleast you got the pornstar and gf experience simeotaneously. Obviously too good to be true like u said. But yeah.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you just need to vet more and ask the right questions in the beginning.

What you described in the beginning were huge red flags to me and at that point you should of immediately headed for the exit point. You sound kind of bitter about the way things ended. The proof was in the pudding all along - you just failed to react.

I think you need to spend more time internalizing your surroundings and what goes on. I've made a post on here a while back. I recommend you take a read. There are women out there who do exist and will be a good match, you just need to be at the very best of your game and you need to vet them better. I'm in medicine but my buddies in sales have a good slogan that I recommend you use with women. Their slogan is ABC.. "always be closing".. your new slogan should be ABV.. "always be vetting".

If you put yourself in the right position in life and in the right position in their eyes, you will reap the rewards. But again, this is all on you and your advancement and self improvement on becoming the best man you can. The rest will follow suite I promise.

[–]tigerbloodstyle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool advice. I feel the better your character, the better your life becomes in every aspect. You basically create your world through what you think, do and how you handle your business. I bet the vetting ability is improved by having a sharp character too. I ask myself the question as soon as I manage to remind myself: is this a meaningful activity? Am I meaningfully engaged in this activity? Would I like to get to know me if I was someone else? If the answer is no to any of the above I know I'm doing something wrong.

[–]TheAC9971 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Single mothers are EXPERTS at making it seem like their lives are less fucked up than they actually are.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"submissive and supportive hot women" does not EXIST

In my experience, they do exist, but only as deeply religious girls who are looking for a deeply religious man. Also they tend to get married young because marriage at a young age is often encouraged by religious communities.

[–]jewishsupremacist8843 points44 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

id say another 5 years before the youngest millenials start hiting their 30s and reality sinks in.

[–]TheSp4rk40 points41 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

it's unfortunate that this (our) male generation will have had to pay for it. I wonder what (how) the next female generation will behave then, will they return to more traditional gender roles or grasp at lies from the burned out older females? I have some money on the older females being too proud to admit they were wrong...

[–]1Goomich7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

it's unfortunate that this (our) male generation will have had to pay for it. I wonder what (how) the next female generation will behave then, will they return to more traditional gender roles

They already are. http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/next-generation-americans-gen-z-may-be-most-conservative-wwii

I have some money on the older females being too proud to admit they were wrong...

This sub has plenty examples of older females admiting they were wrong.

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You got to admit, There is a vast difference between being fiscally conservative and sexually conservative. The hurdle to become sexually conservative is bigger.

[–]1Goomich0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Next paragraph after “fiscally conservative,”:

And get this: According to one British study conducted by global consultancy firm, The Guild, almost sixty percent of Gen Z respondents in the U.K. described their views on “same-sex marriage, transgender rights and marijuana legalization” as “conservative” or “moderate,” compared with a whopping 83 percent of Millennials who called themselves “quite” or “very liberal” on these issues. The Gen Z participants were even ten times more likely than Millennials to dislike tattoos and body piercings!

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Gen Z participants were even ten times more likely than Millennials to dislike tattoos and body piercings!

That could be because of the rising conservative/generally RP-smart view of men nowadays .. because women know these men dont want girls who have tattoos and body piercings and are feminists/sjw's, therefore, they might not want that ... ofcourse, when they say Gen Z participants, it includes men and women . .. . so we cant say for sure, what the exact poll is.

Women will shift towards whatever demographic they find useful/prevalent. And since its TRP we are in, thats why I am talking about women specifically, and not men.

Whatever it is, I find it hard to believe that teenage/adultwomen of Gen Z actually care about being fiscally smart or that they know enough about the economy; they are most probably just following the trend.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Genx here. It's already happening. Bunch of 40 year old women that waited till they were 32 then decided it was time to have kids. Spoiler-they missed their window.

Now their Facebook feeds are nothing but strong women, where good men,etc posts.

Meanwhile my feed is mostly drunken night at bike night

[–]jewishsupremacist881 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

funny you mention that..i stopped by a bar the other night to have a beer and noticed a few older looking women who looked to be in their mid 30s to late 40s..they were attractive and you could tell they were hotties when they were younger. These women should've been home, cooking and cleaning.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL, Yeah their not winners like you complaining on reddit abt where all the good pussy gone.

[–]good_guy_submitter14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jokes on them. I married an 18 year old (much younger than me) and already have several kids with her. I suggest anyone looking to start a family do the same, although the marriage part isn't necessary.

I was married prior to finding TRP. Had I found it sooner, I would have never done more than a non-legal private/religious marriage. I still believe in the sanctity of marriage and think it is a great thing for families. But our governments do not, so fuck our governments, they don't need to be part of the marriage by legalizing it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was she from outside the Western lands?

[–]depressive_monk43 points44 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Guys, what to do when you're 35, finally waking up from your slumber (thanks to NoFap), and want a long-term relationship. But girls over 25 aren't "LTR material" as the OP says, and which I tend to believe, too. Is your relationship life basically over then before it even started? Kinda sucks. Maybe some of you are in a similiar situation?

[–]askmrcia43 points44 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Good question and you'll get different answers because we are different. Some guys here will say get younger girls. Yea you can do that, but those younger girls are going to want to cheat and sleep around because they are going to want that experience.

Me personally, I'm done with ltrs. I won't sit up here and say I'm happy about it, but I'm damn sure not depressed about it. It's more of a content feeling. We can't get everything we want. That's life. Not everyone can have a great marriage and family and all that shit. The Same as not everyone can become rich.

It is what it is. I just know me personally, I'd rather live the single life, keep improving myself, build wealth and do the best I can to make a name for myself. I'd rather do all that then marry some skank that's going to draw stress. Plus you never know what the world will look like in, 10+ years from now. The way technology is growing relationships and marriage may be the last thing on your mind

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this. I feel the same way, even though I am only 25. I have slept with a number of women and while I would love to have a girlfriend, I'm not really now if that's what is best for me. I'm focused on making money, staying in shape while enjoying my life, and being independent. I love being able to do what I want and not have to answer to a woman.

If it really comes down to it, I would rather use the services of an escort or happy ending masseuse, than getting married and leaving myself open to financial divorce rape.

[–]gistaminute6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Gotta find a girl who will support you, complement you. I'm an engineer and I want to focus on that. I need somebody who will add certain things to my life that'll help me in ways I wouldn't otherwise help myself. And of course I should do complementary things for her. And if it stops working then it's done. Some women are other than dumb sluts, of course they become that if you put them into that lifestyle. Picture a girl from Oregon, she's a farm girl. She probably actually hasn't been laid in months... she might have a booty call or two, but highly unlikely given her general character and more importantly opportunity. Mostly fam and a few guys from town. I could wife her easily and I would value all the stuff she does, raising our food basically. But if I moved her into the city she'd become a city girl. See? So I'd be happy moving out onto a farm and living with her like that... but I might not be as attractive to her as I am now as a rich cool guy in the city where I met her in a cafe while she was on vacation. So it isn't. But eventually a scenario could work for an LTR like that, with some mutually beneficial basis.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't be naive, friend. To get married, these should be the conditions you put forward for a girl:

  1. She is 21 years of age at most, ideally 18-19.

  2. She is a HB10.

  3. She is a virgin.

  4. You get a steel-reinforced pre-nup in your favor.

[–]gistaminute0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I only gave a scenario that involves non-state recognized marriage (eg. at a church without state paperwork), the real answer is don't get married by the state :). I'd check with a lawyer about common law, but my planned state of residence doesn't have it. Agreed, to get spiritually married with a woman and have kids she'll be 18-21 virgin or it's not happening... HB5+ is fine, I can afford to fix her up a little. The kind that's an 8 with a flat chest and untended hair or something. Like I said, I know that investment would start her on her way out the door :). I got this

[–]thisdyyd-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And if somebody meets these requirements it's a red flag. Too suspicious, must be hiding something

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women know this , city women might go live in small towns to pretend to be TRAD to ensnare men .

[–]gistaminute0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Shoulda said hometown where their family lives... any chick living somewhere on her own is questionable, big city and small town alike. If she's got the professional freedom to move solo she's likely been through university and stuff anyway... these hometown girls have never seen any money or opportunity, you can discern them pretty easily. They are a lot more naive and innocent talking too because they've not seen as much, for true lack--I know they'd turn into city girls if put into the city, that's why a guy like me can be so sexy to them. They all want it.

[–]103342[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't agree more with you.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered] | Copy Link

You get a much younger woman

[–]JackGetsIt5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes this but those aren't much better as far as LTR quality is concerned.

[–]Eternasphere-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. They're naive and #yolo cheaters.

Maybe these men need to convert to Islam and find a child bride in Pakistan. Or maybe they should reel back their assumptions a little.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Preferably from a third world nation.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Cohabitate. Once they get past the age where you can knock em up then you don't have to worry about marriage or kids. Your then free to leave them if they become bitches

[–]depressive_monk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once they get past the age where you can knock em up

I think that may take a while - up to 60 years or longer.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c21 points22 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah is this part of a TRP phenomenon we call the Pre-Wall Prance.

It has been written about before on here. Just keep in mind that, no matter how "pure" they may seem, all women have a past. Don't be deluded by whatever mask they wear. Just part of the game.

[–]plutosheen0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Excellent material there. Also you can take a look at redpillwomen subreddit to see the conniving live!

[–]1SuperStalin9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have a full facebook of women with magically disappearing and reappearing kids. I've even tried a LTR with a woman almost my age, and for almost two years I didn't find out if she does or doesn't have a hidden kid from some previous relationship. ( I've been told she does, and had a suspicion about her not having any photos older than a year or so ).

I can't recommend avoiding 25+ girls for a myriad of reasons.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, tbh a woman who actively hides her kids would be incredibly rare.

[–]1SuperStalin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think she might have given it up for adoption, or to her cousins.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its almost like the Rational Male has a couple of posts on this...

[–]icutrauma117 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a young lady at work that is married, 25-27, sticks to herself and gets work done without any direction. The guys think she is cute, respectful, doesn't get involved in the petty shitty talk of the other woman, and talk about how one day they will get find their own R#####. Than one day while in a conversation with a young man that was talking about his partying and conquest she confessed this,"yeah, one time I got so drunk I fucked 3 guys in one night." PHe thought she was "opening" up to him. She was merely declaring her need for attention and showing she 'could do it too'. This showed how like a drug addict they can 'mess up' at any moment if there is pressure in their life and that is where they turn. A like a drug addict that minimizes everything she probably did 6 that night. Awalt Awalt Awalt...

[–]I_Need_More_Space_30 points31 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

This is my own sister. At 35 she became super religious/TRADCON. Found some schmuck to marry (He's over 40), now have 2 girls, and schmuck wears the skirt in the relationship.

I'm happy for my sis as long as her facade of happiness lasts, but I'm going to avoid this same situation in my own life. I'm just not gonna marry. I will however have children out of country. Any good looking, small town, S. American woman who is offered payments for the rest of the children's lives she births for me (paternity test of course) will be thrilled to have me as a father. I'm a 6'2", light skinned Mexican, Spanish speaking with a career.

I will also have a cabin in the mountains in of Mt. Shasta. And if my family acts right, I may let them visit me in the U.S. Other than that, I will have 3/4 of the year on my own traveling in my profession, and I will visit my future children in S. America 3 months out of the year.

This sounds a little brutal and cold to a Blue Pill mind, but this is a reaction to the gynocentric world that has transpired in the West. Brutal and cold is what is necessary to not get screwed these days. For all the BP'ers out there, you allowance of the gynocentric state has resulted in my thinking man's reaction. Don't shame me for what I do. Shame yourself for causing this strategy to form.

[–]XDVI points points [recovered] | Copy Link

What's the point of having kids if you are just going to hide them in south america?

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women know this and city women might go live in small towns to pretend to be TRAD to ensnare men .

[–]UnKnownSurviving0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]XDVI has a point. As you know, feminism has been leaking everywhere, every country, that is Westernized. With the exception of Muslim-occupied countries, of course.

I don't know about you, or how you will reach that goal of yours, but I actually thought about having children, at one point, with positive aspects, and it's just too dangerous for me. The feminist propaganda just ruin the picture for me. I've heard from my MGTOW fellows that feminism is declining. And will decline even further in the next year. Funny, thing is, ever since Trump won, there's a lot of social cues changing among Feminists, that most of them are not talking about feminism openly, anymore. (Probably because American citizens are getting rather heated about it and sick of it).

But they'll still "resist Trump", though. Not only that, one MGTOW fellow, predicted that in 2018-2020, feminists, and "former"-feminists will start denying that feminism ever existed. I don't believe it will decline that fast, but it is slowly declining at a steady rate, and will slump over the next 2 decades. Perhaps more.

Anyway. I wish you luck in your plan, though.

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism might decline , but females slutting around when they were young and Hypergamy also, wont .

[–]I_Need_More_Space_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, I never thought about Feminazis leading down a path of self denial of their own existence in the future.

I don't think it will go away from the MSM though. Feminism will keep complaining endlessly.

[–]stawek3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can tell the traditional women by their husband and children, in early age. Everything else is just words.

[–]ThePwnter5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in the near future as marriage declines even more, if some feminist don't start proposing laws that would find a way to legally make men pay after just being in a relationship for X amount of time. Of course at that point the women could just lie and say that they have been in a relationship the X amount of time, and the courts would side with her, cause we got to protect women amirite! bleh.

[–]CroikeyMoit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men already pay for it all through tax.

[–]ballsy13 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, women 18-26 tend to wanna explore, party and have tons of sex.

[–]Astutekahoots[🍰] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Lol ... sex. The one thing the people in this sub have never had more than once or twice.

[–]MyRexGoesPEWPEW0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Truth hurts. I'm one of em. But that's why I'm here to change that. To help guide me and prioritize self-improvement. Through that will the pussy come.

[–]yummyluckycharms0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Hey look everyone - we have a neckbeard with us today...lmao. Isn't there a mom's basement reddit you should be posting on?

[–]Astutekahoots[🍰] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Oooh a neckbeard joke. Your sooo clever.

C'mon beta boy, you can do better than that. I mean .... it's not like your having sex or anything like that. Take a break from jacking it to hentai porn and think of something a little better.

You butt hurt little pussy.

[–]yummyluckycharms1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sorry - working right now - when you get a job - you'll understand

[–]Astutekahoots[🍰] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Selling popcorn to fat lady's at the theater isn't a real job kiddo.

Get back to me when you actually have a professional job. Smh.... no wonder your single.

[–]yummyluckycharms1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao - Oh my - my sides - can barely take it anymore. Projecting much? Ive already mentioned many times what my job is, do a search, and tell me how you deciding to bathe today ranks up to it.

Lol - I love you SJW's - always a good source of entertainment....please dont stop.....lololololo

[–]harsha_hs8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There was a wonderful post called 'damaged goods' right here in TRP few months ago. Can someone link? I'm on my mobile can't find it

[–]2kevin324 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Perhaps you're referring to Rollo's "Damaged Goods", posted a year ago.

[–]Pm_me_your__eyes_7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

women over 25 aren't Long term material

Wait... What? People can't stay 25 forever

[–]rigbed13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alternatively you can harem these bitches. Make sure they all know each other. Find betas to take care of them and raise your children along with their own. Problem solved

[–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

While I understand the context of the term as used in this post, what is TRADCON short for?

[–]maniclurker16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm guessing traditional conservative.

[–]KCMOVIEBUFF12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Correct.

"As noted, tradcon is a traditionalist conservative - a person who prefers a patriarchal society, believes that there are natural gender roles to which people should adhere, and are typically fiscally and morally conservative."

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like another word for redpill tbh

[–]2popthatpill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference is that women are only "conservative" about things that transfer rights and privileges to them and transfer obligations and responsibilities to men. As soon as being "conservative" requires something of her, she starts complaining about it.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought it said "TARDCON" like it was a convention for retards or something.

[–]NeoreactionSafe14 points15 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

 

What has happened is that the Red Pill has started to get leaked into the mainstream and women are realizing they are getting played by the system just as men are.

Think of the alternative...

 

  • Would you rather these women became shrill bitter old feminists?

 

I'll take a girl who can be shamed (and have some Dread built in) over the feminist with the foul mouth any day.

It would be better if these girls were less broken to begin with but don't object to what they are turning into because it's a step up from where they were.

However...

Be careful. They are still women and capable of AWALT type behavior.

 

Plus if they clean up and shave their armpits and get rid of the blue hair and noserings they will start looking better. Maybe get that tramp stamp removed off her ass. Start taking regular showers and dress better.

 

Bad habits die hard... it's like being a smoker... once a girl rides the Cock Carousel™ her brain is permanently "hooked" on the drug and can easily relapse at any time.

Best if they never smoke and never ride... but most are damaged before they wake up about it.

 

[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp33 points34 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

What has happened is that the Red Pill has started to get leaked into the mainstream and women are realizing they are getting played by the system just as men are.

They hit the wall and mask it with, as OP said, "growing up". They are not getting "redpilled". Had women started to become "redpilled" en masse it would manifest in different age groups. It doesn't. What OP is saying is consistent with the wall, not with RP.

Women are not realizing anything. It's your conspiracy delusions of "people waking up", not women.

Read your last replies to different threads, you even had to spew your "globalist conspiracy" garbage over a post about body language. Time and time again you demonstrate that you live in your own fantasy world that has nothing to do with reality.

[–]maniclurker points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm not certain how some of these guys became ECs. I think there's one other dude floating around here that does the same stuff.

The shitty part is, every now and then a mod will get a burr up their ass about someone pissing off an EC.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the sidebar rules. If you still dont understand, then just realize that until you create regular content, your opinion dont mean shit

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. A lot of these chumps on here don't understand the basic philosophy at the core of why we men are the way we are.

Too many people are still finding things and ideas and reasons to blame others for the outcomes or situations they find themselves in. The sad thing is they spend a lot of time dwelling and thinking or spreading hate of "what could of" instead of "why".

With a lot of these young men the answer to almost every problem I see on here is so painfully obvious and honestly disheartening. The answer? Themselves. Hopefully they wise up and begin to realize the only person and outcome they can control is theirselves and any situation they find themselves in the only one to blame or congratulate is them

[–]NeoreactionSafe3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

 

Again I think since the beginning of the Trump Era we are seeing some measurable shift in momentum.

Before the Trump Era pretty much every woman was on the slutty feminist bandwagon.

Now I'm seeing more women shifting strategy towards trying to actually lock down a high SMV mate when possible.

It's a subtle shift, but I think it's happening.

 

However... I was just back in California recently and they are completely brain dead and brainwashed out there still. Went to a bar and started talking and the Blue Pill thinking was sickening.

So it depends on region it seems.

Wisconsin and the areas in the midwest seem to have been effected by this shift.

Before Trump it was a sort of "lost age" where women and men were in freefall in just about every respect.

Things are better... we aren't "great" yet, but a shift is objectively happening based on the data I'm seeing.

Again... bias by location is a factor.

 

[–]1nonthaki0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

California must be seceded in whatever way possible .

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right that it is definitely a mindset. I had to grind for mine man and my wife had to do the same. Being broke going thru medical school and during residency was not fun at all. She was along with me in dental school at the same time.

But now what do I have and do? Anything and everything I fucking want. I remember one time during undergrad in Nashville I had to decide whether I wanted to pay my rent or gas my car home. I didn't blame anyone. I did what I had to and got my shit done. Mindset. We don't have it anymore and we desperately need it back.

[–]TheReformist944 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women aren't getting played by the system.they've got a pretty sweet deal actually.

[–]NeoreactionSafe18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well I disagree.

They are seduced into slutty behavior by Blue Pill programming applied through things like television, music and overall pop culture.

Then they spend a decade squandering their maximum SMV (the very time they should be locking down a high SMV male) until they reach the Wall at 30.

At the Wall they "settle" for a beta male who has been celebate the whole time.

That's a bad strategy for women because they end up in a bad position.

 

A Red Pill aware woman would capitalize on her maximum SMV and lock down the highest SMV mate she can when the deal works in her favor. (before 25 and ideally around 22)

 

[–]saladon points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Right. It might look good for them on paper, but it's ultimately a lose-lose for everyone.

[–]NeoreactionSafe11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

 

Right.

The Blue Pill is poison for everyone.

Women are seduced into the Cock Carousel™ just like they might be seduced into being a Crack addict.

The problem is what can be done with these damaged women afterwards. These bad habits don't just go away.

Think of how many smokers that can never successfully quit.

 

[–]timevampire881 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

shame guys that don't want commitment

I've been at the receiving end of this one, only to point out that when they were younger, they acted the same!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]TheFrenchFondler1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hold on, hold on... let me get this straight

TRP complains that women are ruining society with "muh progressive feminism" , yet you still complain when they suddenly realize the error of their ways and try to fix themselves? Don't get me wrong, I know they caused this nonsense but isn't the goal to try and bring things back to a sense of Traditionalism?

[–]hahayeahthatscool1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad this only achieves the opposite effect. The last thing well to do men are looking for is a nagging aging religious nut

[–]Toxicbutt4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Just banging 18-24 year old is gonna be a lot harder to maintain when your about double their age.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You couldn't be more wrong.

[–]showerthoughtsgenius5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This post reeks of naiveté.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've noticed this as well, but it's nothing new. The older women get the more conservative they tend to become, I suspect by necessity as they can't slut around like they did in their past because they simply can't compete. How can a 35 year old go toe to toe with a 19 year old on looks and fertility? She can't. That necessitates a change of behavior to woo guys who are older and more discriminating and not wanting a chick that's going to whore around behind his back.

[–]drumstyx0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

The female equivalent of repuberty?

[–]1Yakatonker2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the market anomaly is much different, specifically because it falls within the context of the sexual market. This slang term "repuberty" is politically negative connotation against the social economic realization of men that the Liberal ideology is in fact political bribery from corrupt establishment to satiate the tyranny of the weak, non producers in a society to compensate them for the corruption and disabling of free market which deprives them of economic liberty. In another way its also a way to bribe people back into establishment left vs right theater, as in to make them think the one establishment of the right is any different from the left when it is not, but just a single continuity as is Trump from Obama.

For women the only thing changes is their direct sexual and commitment based access to male resources, however politically nothings changed. The government is big daddy beta bux and it robs men to pay for the social welfare paid to women by men. That's not something women have to bother with because its men who pay for it.

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah. As Yakatonker has said, it's political vs. sexual.

Repuberty is basically a term for that quote attributed to Churchill "if you haven't been a socialist at 20, you have no heart, if you're still a socialist at 30, you have no brain".

Becoming more conservative (politically) as you grow older is just pretty normal - it's you losing your illusions about life, society and (social) justice; but generally also a genuine change of heart and opinions.

Women doing a complete 180° when it comes to your dating life on the other hand isn't - because rational decisions and insights don't govern one's sex drive. So even when the show they're putting up isn't completely phoney and when they sincerely think that now they want a nice and dependable guy (because they learned the hard way that guys who are neither are shitty dating prospects), this doesn't suddenly make them genuinely attracted to those schlubs. The same goes for their change in behavior - they don't suddenly become domestic, pious, modest etc. because it's so much fun, they do it because they learned the hard way that the life they lived before backfired on them.

[–]hashtagpls3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

now you know why so many older women in germany and europe are so supportive of islam; nothing puts a crink in younger women competition than making them cover up

[–]Thegymismyhome points points [recovered] | Copy Link

My mind is actually blown...

Fuck Angela Merkel

[–]hashtagpls1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

apparently, it's the only way for old menopausal women to get some cock https://altright.com/2017/06/05/aging-open-border-swedish-spinsters-are-sleeping-with-their-migrant-boy-toys/

[–]gistaminute0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I figure even the most plugged in of guys must be seeing it as facebook friendships go on 10 years old and the old material is curated out of existence. And then they meet these girls with the same profile on OKCupid and put 2 + 2 together.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rollo calls it the "epiphany phase" but if a woman really knew she wanted children she'd understand that the CC and delaying childbirth past the wall produces premy babies and an inability to pair bond with a provider male and we all know how that movie ends.

[–]Vilna_Gaon points points [recovered] | Copy Link

What world are you all living in where women in their 30's don't have dozens of men in line to fuck, date, and/or marry them? The market place is so lopsided in favor of women that I no longer believe there's any meaningful wall (I do not count fat women -- but shit, guys are lined up to fuck, but not date them).

[–]2kevin320 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The marketplace is only lopsided in favor of women when it comes to casual sex. But when she's in her 30s and looking for commitment, it's much more difficult not only because her looks have declined and she's now competing against younger, more attractive women for the same men, but also because the men in her age bracket are reaching their prime in the SMP and aren't ready to settle down just yet.

[–]DarkuSchneider0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah yes the born again angels and virgins. All of a sudden they are tired of games and their 'fuckboys' and want to adult now because their biological clock is ticking and have noticed they are starting to become invisible to guys who are going after other girls instead. We get a new batch of these every year like they are graduating CC Uni ready to start their careers. Most of these types will suck because they are jaded and very picky/demanding in spite of their bargaining positions. I found most were set in what they were or were not into never to explore anything new with another partner again. Since they did X with Chad 1000 times they are over it and will shame their partner like a freak for wanting such things emotionally abusing them into submission once they have thrown enough duty sex to lock them down with a ring or positive prego test. You can rarely have a relationship with one of these types starting with a clean slate as they are damaged and broken and usually with a few bastard kids you may or may not know about. You will spend the first part of any relationship proving you are different than the last 1000 pump and dumps. She has all her achievements and scars and you get whatever is left she is willing to trade for your submission. I've been in the SM for 25 years and the generations change but the underlying story stays the same.

[–]Patreomnia points points [recovered] | Copy Link

"women that are over 25 aren't LTR material."

What the fuck?

[–]VancouverSucks2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. You heard the man you perv.

[–]gigitygigitygoo0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I only see this getting worse with the current generation due to things like Tinder, OK Cupid, Match, and as always, FB. They're constantly validated and have the pick of the litter however when it comes to settling down, that's when they realize their dating pool is much, much smaller so it comes as a shock to their ego, hence doubling down.

Add to that, it takes much more effort for them to keep their looks up and weight down so they're seeing diminishing returns. Then they rally together and ask where all the "real" men are, ones who have values they once balked at. They hold the pussy as a reward for those willing to put in the time and no longer give it up as easily with the result being that men date some of these women before realizing how much easier it is to date a younger woman.

I'm curious to see what the dating world looks like ten years from now...see if it corrects itself, if feminism does off, if men submit, etc.

[–]Jenna_270 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Interesting.....Corrects itself how exactly?

[–]gigitygigitygoo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Younger women become aware of the wall and start settling down earlier.

[–]burtcoins0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

they used to call this "born again christian"

[–]Gr0o0vy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I just know that I am investing in cat food companies

[–]mnemos_10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Playing the smart bet right here.

[–]19RomeoQuebec0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes this acrynom - TRADCON is real boys, very real.

I just get bored sometimes putting in effort in girls I want to fuck.

[–]randomguy1400 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, same with rockstars and other celebreties. They live a life of partying and drugs and everything, then when they get older they "find god".

[–]tolerantman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This happened to a girl I know personally

[–]erotic_troll-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I am so traumatized by seeing these powerful Big Black Men aggressively plunging their things into womens' sacred parts. I thought my mum was a nice kind gentle Mother Teresa who is a prude. I cannot unsee.

I can no longer stand by my people and witness this madness! I worked so hard all these years for money and I am kind benevolent family man. The moans of sexual desire echoes in my house every night. What should I do?

[–]yummyluckycharms-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its always been this way because thats how their biology has been programmed. When they start approaching the wall (ie when their looks begin to fade) and they are switching to beta bucks mode, the cost of cheating on their partner increases. They aren't able to secure an alpha mate as easily - if at all - so they become more conservative to compensate.

Its one of the reasons why I try to only date within the 23-28 age range - far better chances of kinky sex and threesomes happening. After that sweet spot, they start "growing out of it", or "not doing that anymore" - insert overused phrase here. In essence, they become mind numbingly boring.

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