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You aren’t an incel, you are just a stereotype

May 15, 2021
298 upvotes

Since the banning of several incel subreddits, like braincels and incels without hate (ironically banned for being a hate sub), I’ve noticed an uptick of incels washing up on our shores and trying to brainwash our naive readers about the blackpill, how looks is all that matter, fucking prostitutes is better than fucking women, real alphas don’t focus on women and all other weird things.

Well, that’s not fair. Brainwashing young naive readers on asktrp and trp is meant to be my job.

Incels love to play the MUH race card. That if you are a minority, you can’t get laid, but also if you are white, you also can’t get laid because....reasons?

Let’s look at these incels and see why they really are what they are. Breaking this down by demographic (please don’t try this at home with FBI crime statistics!), we have the following:

Indians/Oriental asians . Let’s see what the average male (and average incel) from this demographic is. Skinny fat or skinny. Grandma glasses. 5’8. Has no solid sense of fashion/grooming/hair style. Oh and definitely works in tech. Will probably always lose to a an equivalent white male, because the white male is 5’11 170 skinny fat while he is 5’8 150 skinny fat. If you are under this demographic, all you have to do is not be this stereotype. Build some muscle, change your wardrobe, wear contacts/wear fashionable glasses, grow some sort of stubble beard, and get a fade. Maybe wear a chain. None of these is difficult. If you’ve been on trp for a while, most of these things you’d already be doing. A 180lbs well groomed buff asian dude stands out more than a 180lbs well groomed white dude. Why? Because who the fuck is expecting a well groomed, fashionable 15% bodyfat 180lb asian/indian dude?

If you are a black incel/find yourself stuck fucking hood bitches and struggling with other girls, look if you are portraying a black stereotype. Drop the pidgin english, we iz gangsta and shiet, and the yeezies. Dress up a bit sometimes and speak well. Save the hood talk for your friends. Swap yeezies for Chelsea boots, hoodie for pea coat/leather jacket , “ayo” for “hey”. A well spoken, maybe slightly overdressed black guy stands out more than his white or asian counterpart, for nobody is expecting a black guy to be that.

Now, let’s go to white guys. In the west, there aren’t too many very harmful white guy stereotypes. But there are a couple. White guys can’t dance and can’t cook. At least the black dudes know how to dance to hip hop and the Indians know how to cook tandoori chicken and the Chinese know to cook chicken chow mein or bats. So, let’s change that. A white guy who knows how to dance/cook stands out more than his black counterpart. Who’s expecting a white guy who can dance and cook well?

Putting it altogether:

Use stereotypes to your advantage, you are asian? Be a little more white/black, don’t be such an asian stereotype. You are black? Be a little more asian/white. Don’t be such a black stereotype. You are white? Be a little more asian/black. Don’t be such a white stereotype. When you do this, you’ll stand out more compared to your counterparts.

Everyone expects a dorky skinny fat asian dude or a ghetto acting black guy or a bland rhythmless white guy, so give them a surprise.

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Title You aren’t an incel, you are just a stereotype
Author Protocol_Apollo
Upvotes 298
Comments 205
Date May 15, 2021 2:13 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–]PurpleLemon4de 164 points165 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Nah I’m black and acting like rappers gets you more bitches than acting white.

[–]karlthorssen 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm white, playing into my stereotypes makes it easier to fuck dumb girls

[–]veepeein8008 94 points95 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fr OP doesn’t know what he’s talking bout lmao

[–]camknight15 59 points60 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He really doesn’t. Acting “thuggish” is preferable to acting like a normal, functional person to women

[–]PurpleLemon4de 33 points34 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

He’s right about Indians but white girls love the rapper types from what I’ve experienced.

[–]leelbeach 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's certainly not the case in the UK. Acting like a rapper type will not not work and make you look like a fucking idiot.

[–]pappo4ever 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing more stupid than an englishman rapper. You are the creator of style, you have to work with that.

[–]PurpleLemon4de 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m from America so yea it depends where you are.

[–]vega-mgtow 23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

His advice is hilarious for any ethnic group.

The first reaction from girls would be "what the fuck is wrong with you? stop being retarded!"

Also, what the fuck are short Indian dudes supposed to do? Act 5'11 and white?

East Asians, act black and grow an 8" dick?

[–]18cmOfGreatness -3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm white 5'7 from Russia and I've fucked more hot girls than any "hot" guy I know. I also know a fat guy who's my height and he still fucks hot women regularly. If you are confident and love yourself, but don't look like a Chad then sure, some people would tell shit like this "what the fuck is wrong with you? stop being retarded!", this is nothing but a shit test, and as long as you hold your frame you are golden. If you think that there's no short skinny east asian who bangs hot women with his charisma alone, then you are just another delusional blackpill. The type of a guy OP talks about. In a way, many mgtow are just incels with less extreme views.

[–]pappo4ever 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

1) 90% of russian girls are hot girls

2) Easy to fuck girls if part of your wardrobe includes an ak47

3) I'm a latino 5'6 and also fucked a surprisingly amount of hot girls, but my tall friends fucked more.

[–]Mihalann 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, famous friend bass guitarist

[–]vega-mgtow 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bro, my body count is in the high 30s, not in the same league as some dudes around here, but enough to know what I'm talking about.

Also, I speak from my experience as an American living in a large metro. I'm a tall white guy, I have seen first hand that girls will 100% ignore 5'7" ethnic midgets given half a choice.

[–]ContWord2346 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. For some reason acting like these girls favorite rapper and you will have vagina tossed at you. I’m not “hood” but I came from a tough area and when I’m out of state the vagina I get tossed at me is stunning. It’s almost a joke, 11/10s.

One woman actually just walked up to me and said I want to fuck you, I’m free Tuesday here’s my number.

Beware. Sometimes “black” men have to learn how to act black. Tupac had an interview where he said the guys with the thug image got all the girls and that’s when Thug Life was born. https://youtu.be/XJZUP_nhu-M

https://youtu.be/q505y2pK6XE

[–]1BlondeHornyElf 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

for real, there's a reason dudes pretend to be like guys that are fashionable on TV.. becuz chicks don't see you they see your brand.

i literally had a chick say to me after sex once, "I've always wanted to be fucked by a teacher" while i was working as a teaching-assistant at grad school.. she gave zero fucks about who i actually am, it was the brand of my social position and the fact that i was in a position of authority over her that she was actually interested in.

you should absolutely play on whatever stereotypes or social trends or titles are going to work for you. it's sorta pathetic but u wont feel that when when she's sucking your dick.

[–]4ktx 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chelsea boots

Bro........ its a good stereotype. Most can't pull it off.

[–]BitsAndBobs304 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Your ethnicity doesnt matter, wear a chain and you'll get girls". Where can I buy such galaxy brain? At alex jones' vitality booster shop?

[–]1319Skew 114 points115 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I don't know about the black example.

You can go full ghetto, lift hard, get ink, nice kicks and turn into a Tyrone.

Tyrone can pull a lot more than just hood bitches. A lot more. I'm talking prime 19-24 yr multi national HB 9.5 looking for that black thug python.

[–]camknight15 38 points39 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I actually had to do the opposite of what he suggested to get girls since I naturally “act and sound white” as a black person. Now, I don’t give a shit. I act how I want and let the chips fall where they may. Acting “thuggish” for the sake of appealing to women was extremely mentally exhausting

[–]fedoramistress2 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

8 years of TRP to find out that "just be yourself" really is the best advice. Damn.

[–]eaazzy_13 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

“Just be yourself” only works if you’re not a pussy

[–]red__Man 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

be the best version of yourself*

[–]red__Man -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Acting “thuggish” for the sake of appealing to women was extremely mentally exhausting

acting to appeal to women in not only exhausting but it's also pathetic and retarded

[–]LibertarianLibertine 35 points36 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes I feel half the people on this sub are black.

[–]eaazzy_13 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

A lot of young black men grew up fatherless in recent times. It shouldn’t be a surprise that a good amount of them eventually sought out a community to receive advice from and hash shit out with well put together men.

[–]LibertarianLibertine 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, but I believe there are some differences between the races when it comes to TRP. I believe most white guys were somewhat shy/nerdy, or at least not 'born Chads', and they figured out how to deal with women, shag around and get into relationships. Ultimately they seek for a submissive woman to have a family with, and know how to control her. It feels that TRP is a part of them maturing.

Then, it seems many 'field reports' that are clearly written by blacks are just about banging as many ghetto gals they can get their hands on. That's it, no further goals. It feels that TRP gets them stuck in a childish mentality.

[–]Elicommand 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

People tend to emulate their parents. There's a shocking amount of black women who are perfectly okay being a single mom because they grew up in a single mom household and they figure "Muh mom did it, I can do it too" not realizing how thick they are. For black men, they didn't grow up with a dad, so they emulate what you said : banging as many ghetto gals they can get their hands cause thats probably what their dads did.

Their culture is FUBAR at this point. High crime rate, high poverty rate, low social mobility, doesn't finish high school, lowest rate of post-secondary education enrolment, high rate of black babies growing up with only one parent, trash mumble rap.

But you know, they too busy protesting BLM instead of taking a hard look as to how dysfunctional and retarded their culture has become in the last 60 years.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 28 points29 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

These girls generally dont intend on keeping those black guys though.

Some Asian bitch on The Reel said it best, dark meat on the side, white meat is the main dish.

That being said stereotypes aren't always bad, provided your the alpha version of that stereotype, hence Tyrone. Not tyrese his 110lb brother.

[–]IncorrigibleLee86 25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most chicks that date black guys are going for thugged out tyrones, NOT Steve Urkel.

[–]SenorTonto 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny thing is now that bitch is marrying Young Jezzy

[–]1319Skew 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a problem?

I'd rather have a chick be on call for a fucking then her trying to keep me as a "main dish" to introduce to her mother.

[–]camknight15 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s just Asian girls. Asian girls are extremely racist and picky when it comes to dating. It’s every Asian girl’s dream to marry a white man

[–]SmilingWatermelon 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough. The girl that said it on The Reel, was Asian lol.

[–]BlindMaestro 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s hilarious how depraved that sounds.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There always will be exceptions

[–]trinitrotolueneblast 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

For young guys especially

[–]Irtotallynotrobot 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The level of preaching in the sub had gone through the roof. It's important to remember that people only end up here because they've got a problem. People took the alpha concept way too far and now their problem is getting worse. It started happening when I first joined but it's totally out of control now. All the substance is gone and the place is a shell of what it was. It's too bad, I remember being totally lost and looking for answers when i realized what people were telling me about life didn't line up with how people behaved. It was great to be able to ask questions and get answers from people who knew better than I did. Yes, this place is about more than getting laid but getting laid is around step three in your journey as a person, you can't just skip it and think you're enlightened when you're just handicapped. It's hard to give advice about the info here because it's so many things, when people start preaching I just gotta think they have no clue what they're talking about. If they did then they would understand that it's not a puzzle that you solve by moving the right parts through instruction but more like a mountain. You can't cheat your way through it. Everyone has to do the work and walk it. I can only help but think that most the people preaching are the ones with the problems. I rarely see a submission lately that pushes the limits in thinking but I always see comments about how wonderful it is. On the black pill nonsense it's a tough balance. For instance, people always talk about cutting ties with others. I get the argument on telling people not to cut the few ties they have but the trouble is that most beta relationships are built in subjugation and it's natural for friendships to wane as people chance. But you cant just tell people to cut out all their friends, because then they've just got a chip on their shoulder; they have to let that happen as they change not use that to spur change, it's a bad operant choice but an unfortunate cost of change. People want to change overnight and other people want to change everyone else over night, it just doesn't work like that. However, this sub kinda always had that problem; you never know who is giving that BS advice.

My bad for the word vomit but this has been bugging me too.

[–]Runninwell 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Apollo, you are an endorsed contributor and have written some top level shit over time. I’m old as fuck and never stop learning.

I’m not sure I understand a part of your first paragraph where you’re kinda attacking “real alphas don’t focus on women” (?) This might confuse younger dudes to continue to pedestal vagina?

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a large part of TRP all about getting young men to NOT focus on vagina individually so much, and instead improve themselves, lifestyle, fitness, income, confidence etc ?

I mean yeah we all want to go out and get some. With the above qualities most men become secure and “alpha” and the benefits obtained from the resulting flow of ladies will follow. Has been this way forever and the most common way ladies refer to it is “I want a secure man!!!” or “he’s so secure I must have him” blah blah.

I always tell the young kids to focus on when the girls are whining the word “SECURE” and what it really means for us in daily operation (ie: red pilled, alpha’d or pick your definition).

I see a lot of the deteriorating black pill incel content of late also and think it’s a good reminder to hammer down the basic shit once in awhile.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

“real alphas don’t focus on women” (?) This might confuse younger dudes to continue to pedestal vagina?

Nah not what I mean. Not saying to pedestal vagina.

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a large part of TRP all about getting young men to NOT focus on vagina individually so much, and instead improve themselves, lifestyle, fitness, income, confidence etc ?

This is an interesting question where guys can’t exactly pin down what trp is.

Is TRP a sexual strategy sub? Or is it about general masculinity? Or is it a building power sub? Or is it a truth seeking sub ?

I consider trp as a sexual strategy sub- a sub specifically about getting laid.

The best way to get laid is to focus on getting laid and do what it takes to achieve said goal but as we know, there’s no one way to get laid.

And a lot of what you mentioned brings big returns in getting laid eg fitness, lifestyle confidence which is why you see posts of varying content and messages.

[–]Sartek 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

About the pedestal vagina stuff, do you mean incels were coming along and attacking good "how to get woman" content by saying this content doesn't belong here because that's not what red pill is, they are wrong, redpill is about anything that can help someone navigate there life and get the goals they have set for themselves, getting results with the ladies is a pretty common goal for most man so I think it's incredibly relevant to a wide audience.

[–]Runninwell 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think nowadays, if there was a “Confidence” pill, or booster shot or whatever....that would solve it.

Too many young guys are falling all over themselves just to get a sniff, then having a full sideways meltdown if they get rejected and can’t move on.

[–]vtec__ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

alot of young guys are growing up watching chad/tyrone have women fawn over them, and when they just try to talk to a girl they get called creep and a loser. its hard to be confident when you've never had any luck to begin with

[–]OneTrueQ 57 points58 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Pretty smart. Flipping stereotypes works amazingly.

I am a black man that made it a mission to cut the stereotypes and outdress every man on my college campus. I became a subtle celebrity walking around campus, the extremely well put together black dude. Bitches would not get out of my face man. IT WAS WHITE GIRLS TOO.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

Helping out a friend irl by flipping a stereotype gave me this idea.

[–]Ask_For_Cock_Pics 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

As a black man myself, I know the best way to kill all of your game is to be a Jeffrey. If women seem initially interested in you, and you do the whole "I'm not a thug, I'm not a stereotype" dance, their response is something like "well that's too bad"

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not saying completely white wash or black wash or Asian wash yourself, but integrating a bit from other stereotypes can help.

That’s what I saw out in the field. YMMV.

[–]OneTrueQ 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women eat up the sharp Malcom vibe though. You don’t gotta coon.

[–]TheRedPillRipper 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

a subtle celebrity

The key is taking pride in your appearance. As opposed to confirming to your stereotype. For example you can be a very clean cut, well dressed man; and you’ll turn heads. You could be dripping in gold chains, inked up; but if that white, wife-beating singlet is whiter than a snowflake; you’ll turn heads.

The trick is finding a compromise that you’re comfortable with; that works for you. You’ll not only look good, you’ll feel good; and that’s half the battle won. Before you’ve even left your house.

Godspeed and good luck!

[–]OneTrueQ 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough! Well said.

[–]El_Serpiente_Roja 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Did this in college and got a lot of action

[–]usedtimecapsule 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s because you stood out and were unique. You didn’t give a fuck. Alpha move

[–]1319Skew 26 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't really agree with the premise here. The problem isn't being a stereotype. The problem is what stereotype you're displaying.

I'll go with this example since I'm multi racial and grew up in a very diverse group and lived around a bit.

We've got twins. Both men are identical in terms of education, and looks.

Jamal is a "house nigga", he's "trying to be white", he's looking to get into law. He eats well, is fit and helps out in the community. He's also responsible and composed.

Jermaine is a thug. He's all about the side gig, has a baby mamma but he's trying to get out of the hood by spitting hot fire. He's been in prison a few times, got ink a piece and looks a bit more jacked.

Now, they meet up and decide who can bang the most women. Who do you think would catch the most attention and what kind of attention do you think they would get?

I'll tell you from first hand experience that thug wins here. Not only by being a familiar stereotype but because of the "bad boy" vibe he gives.

Jermaine is going to net a lot of women of different races that are looking for that black dick. It's not the exception. It's the rule.

Jamal is going to be auto pegged as the beta provider. Within the black community, the church girls are going to settle for Jamal after Jermaine. Outside of the black community, Jamal is going to "trying to fit in" and will get his share but nowhere near Jermaine playing to his strength.

Now, switch up Jermaine from thug to taxi driver that's always on the phone or hanging out in coffee houses.

Jermaine is now a negative stereotype but with no alpha traits.

He falls of the radar.

The same can be said about the other races.

Ching is 5 ft 6.

Give him an IT job and make him a workaholic and he's a beta provider or incel. Give him a bit of ink, a suit, the mannerisms of a triad and a nice car and he'll pull. Especially within his ethnicity.

The trick (regardless of race) is to display strong, masculine and desirable traits. You play on the strengths you have.

There are some ethnic groups that you may struggle seducing. I struggle with Asian chicks. Guy who comments above me may have a hard time with latinas. Whatever.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm this is plausible too.

My irl experience helping a friend is what inspired this post.

There are some ethnic groups that you may struggle seducing. I struggle with Asian chicks.

Could be displaying a thug stereotype doesn’t work as well on Asian girls perhaps? ;)

[–]usedtimecapsule 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Jamal will attract women his level. Quality over quantity

[–]sherlock98 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I see you have no idea what rp is

[–]usedtimecapsule 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No. You fail to understand environment is still a huge role in someone’s dating life.

[–]usedtimecapsule 36 points37 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Yes I had a few incel like comments under my recent ask trp post. One was a meme about self improvement being useless because in high school chad got a girlfriend naturally and didn’t need improvement. The meme said self improvement is just a huge cope.

It was pure black pill and it’s hard to not let that get to me.

[–]Ethman2k9 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Have you tried improving and seeing where it got you? I promise it works. Don’t read that bullshit, it’ll poison your mind.

[–]repfive305 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It works so much.. not even a question. You have to be a moron to think it doesn’t.

[–]usedtimecapsule 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve been improving all year. I’m starting to get lean, it feels amazing.

It almost worked for me pre pandemic. I was going to ask out a girl & then COVID happened. She was obviously into me and was HB 9. What a shame COVID cockblocked me.

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[–]jst_whtevir 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hoping for someone to care about you or rescue you from yourself is not only a form of external validation seeking, but also a recipe for disaster and a low value thing to do.

[–]jst_whtevir 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The presence of incels/blackpill has always been an underlying problem of the community, but especially so in recent times. Ignore them. Most of them won't change for the better on their own and most certainly can't be helped by us fine folks.

Sure wish that more bans would be handed out though, seeing as it would make asktrp a much healthier place. This, and removing posts that ask the same damn thing that's been covered to death before. There's a search bar for a reason.

A bit off topic, but whatever. Stick to the basics and you'll be fine bro.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That logic doesn’t even makes sense. Chad being a natural is irrelevant to your life. Some people have natural abilities, but most have to learn them. It’s like that for all aspects of life. Quitting because you have to put in some work is the path to loser status.

[–]Defiant_Mess5346 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s just excuses for not putting in the work. In TRM Rollo talks about how even “naturals” had to improve their social skills and figure out game it’s just that they did this from an early age and were less methodical about it. Everyone has to do the work, but some people like to make excuses as to why they don’t need to.

[–]salandra 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can choose to be any character in this play, why choose the whiney bitch?

[–]LibertarianLibertine 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Use stereotypes to your advantage, you are asian? Be more white/black, don’t be such an asian stereotype. You are black? Be more asian/white. Don’t be such a black stereotype. You are white? Be more asian/black.

This is a strange conclusion to an otherwise good post.

[–]ClickKlakk 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s a valid point. You want to engage a woman’s full range of emotions unlike other men. Surprise is an emotion. It’s a good way to break in.

[–]LibertarianLibertine 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There's more ways to surprise than to play into racial stereotypes. I'm 100% white and I act 100% white. Why the hell would I act like a black stereotypical thug/rapper or like an Asian nerd? What the hell.

[–]ClickKlakk 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You’re intentionally missing the point. It’s fine.

[–]LibertarianLibertine 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No not really, I just disagree with the point being made.

[–]ClickKlakk 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don’t think he’s saying that it’s the way, or the only way, or the best way...just A way that some lost souls may have not yet considered to jumpstart their troubled little hearts.

[–]strikethrough123 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem with those people is that they disqualify themselves from the gene pool by assuming that women are not attracted to them because of variables outside of their control. If you’re Asian and think that women aren’t attracted to you because you’re Asian, that’s the vibe you’ll be projecting, and women won’t be attracted to you. If you’re 5’6 and think women won’t be attracted to you because of your height, that’s the vibe you’ll be projecting, and women won’t be attracted to you. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Yes, there are women that will reject you because of your race (I’m Arab). And yes, there are women that will reject you because of your height (I’m 5’6). And yes, there are women that will reject you because of [Insert X variable here].

Not every woman will want to fuck you. Accept that. Your job is to find the small niche of women that WILL want to fuck you. Yes, it’s true that the uglier, shorter, balder, or whatever er you are, that less and less women will be attracted to you because of your looks. But, as you increase your status, your wealth, your skills, and most importantly, your GAINS; more and more women will be attracted to you because of the factors that you CAN control.

In essence, the women that aren’t attracted to you because of their preference for variables you can’t control is a static metric, it will never change. By working on the factors (body, wealth, status, frame, skills, talents, etc..) you can control, you’re essentially increasing the percentage of women that want to fuck you.

[–]Kuneyah 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm black and if one more white girl says I talk like a white guy i'mma start swinging lmao

[–]ReallyInsufferable 15 points16 points  (38 children) | Copy Link

Notice how your baseline is 5 ‘8 and buff, Asian or otherwise. I get the point, but you fail to address that some people are irredeemably short and unattractive.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 17 points18 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

Short: Yeh fine, can’t do shit. I’ll agree with you there. (Still shouldn’t hold you back though, will come back to this further down reply).

Unattractive: there’s a fuck ton you can do there. Vast majority of men aren’t doomed to be unattractive. Only a tiny minority of guys are destined to be unattractive (car accident or whatever).

Fix your fashion, grooming, hair, and have a decent physique.

There’s no unattractive man who’s got all those in order.

Girls don’t ascertain male SMV like guys ascertain female SMV.

We judge girls in a binary manner- hot or not.

Girls don’t. For them SMV is a pie. Where many factors are present: physique, height, game, frame. How much each factor weighs I don’t know but guys can easily compensate for a lacking attribute since all other factors are still in play.

If a girl is fat and ugly, she’s fucked. I don’t care if she’s the president, nicest girl in the world, or if she can give the best blowjobs. I can’t make myself attracted to that.

[–]ReallyInsufferable -1 points0 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Bottom 1% here. Doesn’t matter if you’re attractive to ugly women, it’s called settling if you don’t wanna die alone.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 13 points14 points  (23 children) | Copy Link

I severely doubt you are. Are you severely deformed? Are you disabled? A quadriplegic?

The reality is the bottom 1% mentality will cause you much more harm than actually being bottom 1% physically.

So much of red pill is really in the mind than the body. Which is why incel thinking is so dangerous.

I’d rather have an physical impairment than mental impairment ie an incel/black pill mentality.

Black pill mentality is poison for the mind.

If you want to change this, help us by helping yourself first. You have to give up that mentality.

There’s a lot you can change.

[–]ReallyInsufferable 3 points4 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Facial deformity. Yes. 5’5

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 4 points5 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Ok so change what you can. If it’s a glaring deformity, see what can be done to eliminate or reduce it.

But fine, let’s say in this sense nothing can be done.

What about your physique, fashion, hairstyle? What about your game? All these can be changed.

[–]ReallyInsufferable 4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

True, but there’s not much you can do there if you look like sloth from the goonies, maybe except for facial reconstruction. In my case, height readjustment. I’m not saying your average person is hopeless. I’m saying that there are glaring exceptions to the “embracing who you are” mentality.

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[–]ReallyInsufferable 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s the best response this far. Thank you.

[–]Resgignickell 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a good idea to turn into a betabux just because you're ugly. It's better to be alone than to know you're only loved for your money.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You will never catch me saying “embrace who you are”.

What I am saying is change what you can. And there’s a lot more you can change than what you can’t.

Height readjustment might be a bit much, you are probably better of wearing boots eg Chelsea’s, chukkas, military style etc.

Regardless, you have better bang for your buck improving the other aforementioned things like physique and fashion.

[–]ReallyInsufferable 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks man. That makes sense.

[–]ThenIJizzedInMyPants 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What I am saying is change what you can. And there’s a lot you can change than what you can’t.

THis

Why is it so hard for people to understand this simple principle

[–]jst_whtevir 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Fuck are you talkin bout? You're not a midget and if your face truly is deformed, you can always get cosmetic surgery, with the money that you should already have (or at least be in the process of acquiring).

One of the biggest, strongest and most respected guys at my gym is a dude in his 40s, who's shorter than you and I don't see him complaining.

[–]ReallyInsufferable 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

What’s your point dude? Come here just to insult? I’m 18. Don’t have the money for cosmetic surgery yet. Gonna get it ASAP though. But keep on about your gym bros or some shit. Take your aggression meds.

[–]jst_whtevir 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

You're 18, not some kid who can't work on his body, for starters. I'm curious about your stats, but the vibe that I'm getting here is that you don't even lift. Come on, prove me wrong.

[–]Neanderthal_69 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

His point isn’t to pick out the victims of uncertainty in your eye, but to shed a little light on people struggling in general

[–]ClickKlakk 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

When you decide you’re a loser, you’re a loser. Nobody is asking you to change your mind. They’re asking you to shut the fuck up and stop trying to convince other people that they are losers too.

Why would you do this? What do you gain? Having more losers reinforces your decision to give up. It makes you feel more justified. Does imagining my short ass fucking 9s because I decided I’m not a loser and did what I could to make myself a winner make you feel bad? Because you’re a loser?

You’re a loser for not trying. You’re a loser for giving up. You’re a loser because you decided you’re a loser.

[–]BlindMaestro 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you don’t try, you lose.

If you try, you can still lose.

You can only win if you try.

It’s the difference between a life and a slow death.

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[–]ClickKlakk 5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That wasn’t directed at you buddy, get over yourself. I was talking about all of the losers, who decided they were losers. I guess you kind of just made my point for me though.

[–]ReallyInsufferable -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

“Not directed at you” says the person who replied to my comment. Wtf?

[–]ClickKlakk 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I was talking about the collective “losers” out there. Take it easy, man.

[–]ReallyInsufferable -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m taking it easy. My tone doesn’t come across very well. More comedic than anything. My bad.

[–]ClickKlakk 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol you’re fine. I was just saying, have a good one. As in, “take it easy”.

[–]dynospectrum7 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are we serious with this? You sound like the incels that OP talks about washing up on TRP shores.

[–]ReallyInsufferable 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s not me, but I love you all the same.

[–]armenian_UwUcide_ 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

there aren’t very many negative white stereotypes in the west

You sure? The average white incel is a gamer that spends too much of his time owning the trans on 4chinz and chat rooms while secretly jacking off to them and watching anime. Usually with crappy glasses frames that don’t fit his face, skinny fat or obese, and dorky 1 inch rat fuzz all over his head.

Your best bet is to avoid being a stereotype at all cost regardless of origins; dress well, speak well and don’t be afraid to experiment with your hairstyles; longer hair on men is extremely underrated and very pleasing aesthetically when done right. Lastly, your hobbies are super important, just as if not more so than looks as they influence both your frame and sociality. Have an esoteric hobby for your state of inner peace, and an exoteric hobby to connect you amongst other like-minded people to sow your tribe.

If you want to stand out, you must make an effort to be unique.

[–]2Simptopimp-co-uk 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Completely agreed. I started by thinking that girls didn't like me because I was brown skinned. No, I was an awkward, weird, video gaming, skinny fat, social retard who just happened to be brown. Fixing all that takes a few years and now being brown is an advantage because I'm brown and handsome, brown and jacked, brown and confident etc. Break the stereotype. It's not THAT hard.

[–]TheOffice_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

to cook ...bats

Too soon brah, too soon, lmao!

As a minority dude, I can 100% confirm. I'm not competing with all the tall white dudes out there. I just need to be among the best within my demographic, and I easily stand out, esp in major US metros.

[–]NoEntertainment3490 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m too drunk to read past the first part right note but I agree that there is an uptick of incels lately

[–]blento234 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you are 18 or 20 years old, your looks are everything that matters. You are in the most cases still in education, your status is limited to your small friends and family circle, there is not another possibility to excel except for the first impression, which is the function of your height and facial genetics. Dad‘s benz or a bimmer can help, but there are also some examples that tell us othERwise. Ok, that one was a psychopath.

[–]Clariecefun 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought dumb bitches liked the hood black thug?

[–]Accomplished-Faux 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

u/Protocol_Apollo Another outstanding post. This should really be on the same level as a GLO post in regards to bringing the speds from their lurking caves. Frothing at the mouth like usual. Apologies for the rant - Nah, fuck it. I'm not sorry.

" Those Who Say They Can and Those Who Say They Can’t Are Both Usually Right " - Henry Ford

I have little to no empathy for black pill cucks. Why you ask? Because the very fact that you "give up" and make excuses for your situation reeks of such a foul smell of beta, that no self-respecting man would ever get near. The black pill / heightism / looks-gap etc. is such a massive cope that it really should be banned from mentioning on this sub. It's literal poison.

I know 5'6 guys that SLAY pussy. I also know 6'3 guys that complain about never getting any. I know jacked monsters that are struggling with fat wives. I know fat dudes that juggle multiple women.

In short - Fuck your excuses.

EDIT: Are there outliers? No. None. Deformity or not. Because no matter what your situation is, you can ALWAYS improve. Your choice is literally work to improve yourself or die.

[–]codzombiedan14 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should never change who you are for female validation. I disagree with this to good degree. Of course getting fit and being in shape is important for a healthy lifestyle, but you shouldn’t do this for the sole reason of female validation. You should be fit and healthy for just one person, yourself. If you change your culture and personality for female validation that is the opposite of success as a man.

[–]camknight15 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a dumb fucking post and does not deserve the amount of upvotes it currently has

[–]jst_whtevir 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Funny how you triggered the incels and now they're all coming out of the woodwork

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Moths to a flame.

Just need an AC130 ban hammer on the lit up targets.

[–]modTheRedPike 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

For the record... there have been bans.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Leaked footage of the banning

https://youtu.be/Xd5GzDg6ca4

[–]largepaycheckaddict 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can’t think of anything more pathetic than forming an identity around being undateable and unfuckable. If you are an incel it means you lack basic social skills.

[–]Mustbeaight 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m sorry this is a huge pile of bs..but you do you

[–]Allblackallamerican 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

OP, before I give my $0.02 on this, may I ask what your ethnicity is?

[–]Aubrey_D_Graham 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Wtf. If you're asian, then be more black/white? Top tier shit post.

Just be a masculine man. That's it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Reductionist thinking won’t help you understand this or any post.

The average Asian is a dorky looking skinny fat guy. By incorporating aspects of other ethnic groups, he can be/act more masculine.

Applies to other ethnic groups too.

[–]jst_whtevir 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Another way of dealing with this issue would be to stop focusing on race altogether. I honestly can't wrap my head around some culture's obsession with race - looking at you american, indian and asian fuckers here.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. Incel shit was never my cup of tea.

Which is why I typically stay away from this shit but I thought why not have a crack at it and maybe break through to some of the incel lurkers.

[–]salandra 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can say we're a tribal species

[–]Kizertown88 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Op is a virgin. Acting white aint gonna get you bitches. Also, prostitutes and women aren't mutually exclusive

[–]OddAlternatives 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

fucking prostitutes is better than fucking women

Seems like it should be part of any amoral sexual strategy toolkit regardless

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

The prostitution question will always rub me the wrong way.

Where’s the sexual strategy in fucking prostitutes?

There isn’t.

The whole point of the red pill is to learn how to get women to want to fuck you. Around a million posts have been written for this very purpose. Thousands of posts on how to lift, on game, on frame, on fashion etc.

Fucking prostitutes kinda defeats the purpose of this sub.

[–]IncorrigibleLee86 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking prostitutes helps you keep the price of pussy in frame and not on a damn pedestal.

The amount of simping young horny dudes will do is ridiculous. Dropping $2k on bottle service at the club just so that you can have a chance to bang that 7/8 club girl is flat out stupid.

Even if you manage to bang her more than a couple of times, she is now accustomed to being bought bottle service at xyz club at a recurring interval. Not to mention the partying on the non bottle service weekends.

edit: the viability of all this depends on the price of local sluts. If you can smash a 7 for $100 & hang out for like 2hrs with her... You definitely aren't going to simp out buying 3 dinner dates at a steak house on a damn 6 just for a chance.

second edit: I don't mean real prostitutes from an agency or something. I'm talking about sluts that will bang you in exchange for money, paying their cellphone bill, etc etc; transactional fuck buddies is probably a better way to explain it. A shocking amount of young modern women are perfectly fine doing this. Example: back in my coke days, i'd show up with a 8 ball to a 9's house, get smacked out of my frigging mind and fuck until I was limp; best $75 I ever spent.

[–]Southerndude62 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You have the definition of "Red pill" wrong. The purpose of redpill is to see the truth: almost all women are out there to scrounge resources off men. By being money hungry, by divorce court etc. Which is why you protect yourself and your money. That's redpill. You're ill-informed.

I have 2 gf that I fuck. No long term commitments. Nobody moved in to my house (or me to theirs). My money is safe.

[–]IncorrigibleLee86 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He does seem to be confusing Red Pill and Game/PUA content.

[–]OddAlternatives 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Where’s the sexual strategy in fucking prostitutes?

I'm not saying just fuck prostitutes. Why is doing so at all incompatible with self improvement? It certainly need not be. Of course, do the things you're supposed to be doing, prioritize fitness and finances etc. Don't blow your last dollar on a hooker or something.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where’s the compatibility between self improvement and fucking prostitutes?

There isn’t right?

Fucking prostitutes on the side can easily lend to guys using it as a crutch/using it to avoid to put in the work to get laid normally.

And why would you supplement escorts if you are already banging non escorts? Doesn’t make sense.

[–]OddAlternatives 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucking prostitutes on the side can easily lend to guys using it as a crutch/using it to avoid to put in the work to get laid normally.

It can. But it doesn't have to.

And why would you supplement escorts if you are already banging non escorts? Doesn’t make sense.

Fill the dry spells. Guys, even motivated guys, do dumb shit out of thirst. Best thing is to not do that. Next best thing is to curb the thirst so you don't do that.

To each their own I guess.

[–]zino193 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I think the issue is you don't have a identity outside of your socio-demographical cohort.

There's ATL black, there's Southern Black, there's NYC Asian, there's SanFran Asian. It's not about race, it's about sociodemografical environment. Let's not get into the "white identity" Between alchoholic Russians, wildmen of Finland and liberal Denmark, there's more diverse attitude values and behavioral patters in a area smaller like the baltic smaller in area than the great lakes than across all black Americans.

But back on track. What it shows women is that you aren't well traveled, you don't have a lot of diverse experiences and essentially in the global SMV you are a weak choice. Being hard to pin down, being a paradox showcases you are worldly.

But in a world of hipsters and masters of none, this is a finite card to play. I would suggest the same old addage - be great, be skilled, be the person that in 5 minutes of attention has more to offer that a full time loyal friend. If you can't beat the ganglord in the hood, become the lawyer or cop that gets to crush him in front of his sweetheart. If you are the IT drone, become the team manager that starts his own firm. If you're white, become the well traveled, experienced manly man, that with a look says more than Machine Gun Kelly in a whole song.

I would add the crucial importance for selection bias.

If you have a certain stereotypical preference, you will pursue the same type of people, and get about the same type of outcomes - because the people that fit those stereotypes learn the same set of behaviors and attitudes inside a relationship as outside.

There are women that want the IT guy, just because they aren't the club bunnies that ride with the hood rats, isn't a dis against your race or job. It's a sign of the type of woman your feminine affection starved brain is looking for. Obviously those women won't see you as a win. Like you won't see the bookish asian chick as a win.

Similar to those white bunnies, they want the gangster because he is the only masculine guy available in a small town or hood. And that's the cultural model of accepted masculinity. They need the masculine, but their perspective is so limited by culture that they think it can only be found in the drugged up muble rapper or the flashy "entepreneur"

[–]Allblackallamerican 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

ATL black and southern Black are largely overlapping of each other.

[–]zino193 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ATL is more flashy. big town southern if you will.

When I say southern black I mean small town bible belt black.

[–]HotConclusion0 -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You think rappers are masculine? 90% are a bunch of wannabe hardmen who need 5 big guys around them to feel safe.

[–]zino193 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you fail to understand the metanarrative of our cultural zeitgeist - also, seriously not the point of my argument.

Let me be crystal in one aspect. Unfucked 50 year olds that are socially maladapted do not define what is masculine, or what samples of masculinity appear tokenized in front of young girls.

[–]5ItsDantesWorld 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Find yourself STUCK fucking hood bitches

I like what I like, mayne...

White boys, if you can't dance, or don't wanna learn, I suggest learning how to rap / write poetry. Every time I roll up to rap sessions the brothers saay "Ight dude you're officially black now" and the sistas wanna have mixed children. Works every time.

[–]LibertarianLibertine 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fucking hood bitches is a great way to get an STD.

[–]5ItsDantesWorld -5 points-4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The only STD i've caught were a coupla baby mommas

[–]LibertarianLibertine -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Your baby momma's are hood rats? How is that working out for you mate? Child support for a kid you never see and that'll grow up to be a hood rat?

[–]5ItsDantesWorld -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Man you just seem like you're so full of hate! 😜

[–]LibertarianLibertine -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why? Because I'm questioning the decision of impregnating hood bitches? I'd like to highlight I don't mind that you knocked up a girl and made a bastard, but dude, hood bitches.

In all seriousness, I'm curious to hear from you the details of the situation.

[–]5ItsDantesWorld 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

They're black and have thick round phat asses with tight cores. That's really all there is to it. Nature calls...

[–]LibertarianLibertine 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant the situation with the kids though, could you elaborate on that?

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

If you are under this demographic, all you have to do is not be this stereotype.

So you become a suave, shredded, 5'8 midget. You will still lose, perhaps hit once in a while, a 7 or a 8, nothing compared to the 6'3 guy that literally only showed up. Its like putting makeup on a fat girl. She's still fat.

No, we shorties lost the genetic lottery. The solution to being short is not being a good looking short man, that doesn't fix anything.

The only solution is to get money or status. Sorry if this seems like a black pill, but in my experience, height is of paramount importance, trying to hide this fact will only cause pain.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 4 points5 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

So you become a suave, shredded, 5'8 midget. You will still lose, perhaps hit once in a while, a 7 or a 8,

No, we shorties lost the genetic game.

You just proved my point.

Better being 5’8 suave and shredded than being 5’8 and nothing.

We can debate how much it really helps (I think a lot, you think not so much) but that’s not my point.

My point is that it will help. You will gain something from changing yourself. And that’s my argument.

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

My point is that it will help.

I don't discuss that. If you are a short, fat bastard, not even all the money in the world would help you. You already have one shortcoming, you cannot have two. Fucking a 7 or a 8 once in a while is much better than not having anything. Also, there are many advantages to being short. It's much easier to get shredded, 30kg of muscle in a 5'8 looks huge, in a 6'3 looks normal.

My guess is that 95% of the guys in this sub are short. Guys over 6'2 don't need TRP, or anything really, they just show up and start fucking girls, its not hard for them. We shorties need all the help we can get.

[–]Xerrostron 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude your blackpill bullshit is really dumb. The most swiped on height on Tinder is 5'8. literally 5'8 is a good fucking height. Only in Scandinavia are people actually walking around 6'2. America is literally a 5'9 average. Height is not that big of a deal.

[–]HotConclusion0 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a myth that tall guys have it easy. I'm tall. Girls show more interest in a short guy with a good looking face than a tall guy with an average one. FACTS.

[–]throwawahhas 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

this is some major cope. I know tons of tall guys that get no pussy. I've seen tall guys get straight up ignored. I knew a 6'6 guy that was so quiet that no one even bothered starting conversations with him, I got basement dwelling vibes from him and he wasn't even bad looking.

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should not extract conclusions from a sample size of one.

[–]Redditorsheaven 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I know many guys like 6’4 still acting like loser. You’re brainwashed.

[–]jst_whtevir 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Grass is always greener on the other side.

[–]modTheRedPike[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

FYI to all, when an EC is engaged with someone, I usually won't remove reported comments unless they violate site wide rules.

[–]vtec__ 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

its funny how 5'8 is considered short. id be very happy to be 5'8 lol

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't blame me. Blame women, I'm 5'6.

[–]vtec__ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

oh yeah, for sure. not worried man, the dating market is going through a huge correction

[–]salandra -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There's women out there shorter than 5'8"

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

wtf that has to do with anything? do you think women look men according to their own height? This forum really went to shit.

[–]salandra 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're already in the woman's frame with that attitude.

[–]IncorrigibleLee86 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are short... One thing I've seen works is become jacked, hyper masculine with a Napolean Complex. Don't be broke either. Those short fuckers get laid more than a 6'3 shy effeminate manbun soyboy.

[–]ShivStarKiller 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

As a skinny Indian, I've found that out way sooner. Can't bulk for shit, but good genetics has me with some decent biceps and abs. But combat sports changed my entire mentality, ad is the reason I pull more girls than my taller, more gifted colleagues

[–]jst_whtevir 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't bulk why exactly? Don't have money for chicken and rice?

[–]ShivStarKiller 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol nah. Whatever I eat, the hot sun makes me sweat it out.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Bulking isn’t hard brother.

Even the worst hard gainers cap at needing around 3000-3500 calories to bulk.

Track your food, and use fats. They have twice the calories per gram than carbs/protein.

Fats from meat (buy slightly less leaner meat), butter, olive oil and avocados.

[–]ShivStarKiller 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks, but it's not much use. I went by a doctor and he said I have an unusually high metabolism rate. I also live in a very hot climate, so I sweat a lot. I also use the traditional bulking diet of goat, naan, ghee, and dhal, which is high fat.

[–]Endorsed ContributorProtocol_Apollo[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get a second medical opinion. Sure, you may have a high metabolism but I doubt it’s so high that 3000kcal-3500 wouldn’t fix.

[–]AffectionateCitrone3 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can you please explain how combat sports helped?

[–]Remarkable003 -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bhai are you based from USA??

[–]ShivStarKiller 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Born and bred in America, but moved to a tropical area

[–]drkinferno72 -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

double your calorie intake

[–]ShivStarKiller 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish it was that easy smh

[–]DistanceInevitable46 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow thanks for this post. As a skinny fat indian (im working on it) this is very inspiring. You're right I can stand out.

Cheers man and if we ever meet Ill defiently make you some tandoori chiken.

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[–]vtec__ 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]sepan5 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry bro, you are helpless. Take care

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't try to help people that don't want to be helped.

[–]glenthedog1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Speak for yourself

[–]skuttt 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’m 5'7, my gf is 5'8 and this other girl loves me. I get IOIs and numbers all the time. I’m not that buff but look good. I’m successful. I’ve got game and confidence. I’m smart and fun. All these things I built over time because I didn’t give up when women weren’t interested in me when I was younger. Also: I’m 40.

[–]vtec__ -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

look @ the post below where i posted the infographic

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's incredible than in a forum where you learn the truth, this obvious truth is voted down. Go put 5'5 as height in tinder. Then put 6'4, and see the difference.

Yeah 5'5 guys can slay, once in a while, with a 8 (that really is a 6). Tall guys play in another leage, it's like comparing Formula 1 with a bicycle race. Yeah, short people can get some dates with a 6, and you GF will leave you...for a taller guy in no time. Having a LTR while being short is like swimming in honey.

That's life for shorties, it was no that hard before online dating, now it's very hard, not impossible, but very, very, very hard. Short guys need TRP and dark triad most than everyone.

Obese, single moms have way more sex than short guys.

[–]vtec__ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i suspect lot of the guys on here are on the shorter range of spectrum so thats why there are so many downvotes and angry betas pushing back. its legit in the data...

there are studies that show that women from lower socioeconomic backgrounds will date short guys. i work at a f500 company and am short...none of these girls ever look my way and do their best to keep our conversations short. short men need to make alot of $$ to compensate for it

[–]4ktx 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 5'4 and clean everything.

[–]salandra -2 points-1 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Speak it into your reality bro. There's nothing wrong with you.

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[–]salandra -2 points-1 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You've already disqualified yourself before you even tried, there's no participation trophies in life. That was something your mom thought would cheer you up. Bitches don't know shit. And you my sir, are acting like a bitch.

[–]vtec__ 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

lol. ive tried many times, gave up.

[–]salandra 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Then why are you even here?

[–]pappo4ever 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You should not give up. Just improve. Tall guys don't have to improve, that makes them lazy, we shorties cannot have that luxury. I've fucked girs that I wouldn't believe, girls that now are famous models on TV in my country. Just dumb luck I guess, I'm 5'6. It helps 1) Having money 2) having status 3) being over 35.

You will never slay like a 6'2 man, but you will not stay a virgin, thats for sure.

[–]PatientHaitian -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen...don't be a victim. Use the element of surprise

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[–]jst_whtevir 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So, let me get this right. You're implying that the aforementioned things, which all do one thing - improve your appearance/perceived value - don't have an impact on your sexual success? Lmao

[–]pappo4ever 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Build some muscle, change your wardrobe, wear contacts/wear fashionable glasses, grow some sort of stubble beard, and get a fade.

He will get dates with the wrong gender.

being Asian or Indian puts you far far at the back of the male demographic for female attraction,

Nah, it's because Asian and Indian naturally looks kinda affeminated. Blacks on the other side, looks hiper-masculine, they don't have any trouble dating. Whites and latinos are in the middle ground. I'm quite sure that a masculine asian or indian guy have zero problem getting girls.

[–]jackie_durden -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm quite sure that a masculine asian or indian guy have zero problem getting girls.

Heh - yeah below average girls, not from the west.

[–]salandra -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you heard of peacocking or flair?

[–]TheRealCrappyPappy 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most decent women I met, I met at a dance hall. I live in the south so most dance halls play country music. It’s not hard to learn a 2-step, a half-step, or even a waltz. If you don’t like country music, get over it. At least down here, a lot of women like it and just like to be spun around the dance floor. It’s an easy way to get close and have a more intimate conversation.

[–]1AlfredKinsey 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

White dude here, glad I dance well and cook better. Clubbing was a real treat for exercise and then...more exercise late night.

[–]hopeunseen 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂 Please, PLEASE write a RP for dummies book. I will buy for pure entertainment value

[–]CaesarKonrad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a incel I just seem to have a habit of being played by girls though

[–]cdcollector87 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I'm an incel. Can get laid if I want to. I'm just picky about who I get laid by and I'm totally okay with it. I stay away from toxic women too.

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