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Your Blue Pill Friends Will Turn On You

April 9, 2015

The more red you get, and the more this becomes visible in your actions, the more you will draw the ire of those blue pillers around you. I've in the past made the mistake of trying to redden people who are hopelessly beta and usually it comes back to bite me in the ass.

I can think of two incidents in which I informed a close friend his bitch had cheated on him, and they each responded with rage directed at ME. How dare you have my best interests in mind!

Your blue pill friends are not really your friends. They will not only sell you down the river for a whiff of used up pussy, but they will feel morally superior for having done so.

At the heart of every beta is a timid, cowardly, backstabbing person filled with jealous rage. In the face of RP wisdom, which I've offered up to many such people, they recoil in disgust. This then creates the need within them to "prove" to either themselves, or you, that being a beta cuck is the superior way. You'd be shocked how far some are willing to take this, especially if they're older and they've spend their entire lives plugged in, they usually are so entrenched in their beliefs that to try to show them the light would be too much for them to handle.

For example, the other night a hardcore BP friend was going on about how he doesn't care that his ex wife cheated on him, that his "son" isn't really his (can't make this shit up) and that "when you're in love, it doesn't matter". Normally I'd drop a red pill atom bomb on this type of ignorance, but experience has shown this to be both ineffective and harmful. Better to let him wallow in ignorance. The reaction you will get from hard core beta BPers when you drop some red truth on them is highly visceral, and quite amusing, however you will be asking to get stabbed in the back by these guys, since that is a white knight betas default course of action.

Stay vigilant my friends, and don't bother to save your beta friends, because, as you will notice, they hold you in utter contempt.

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Title Your Blue Pill Friends Will Turn On You
Author jobs33ker
Upvotes 137
Comments 103
Date April 9, 2015 8:01 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit /r/TheRedPill
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[–]thenarrrowpath34 points35 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I try to follow that 48 laws of power deal, but I only remember law 38 "Think what you like, but act like everyone else".

Anytime people talk about RP related stuff, like why some girl is staying with a physically abusive BF or a girl bitching about "where are all the good men" while she goes and bangs dudes like me who refuse to take her out to dinner, I just go stoic. If pressed for my opinion I simply say something to like “I don’t understand why you guys are surprised.”, then change the topic. The majority of beta men act like they want help yet lash out at you when you offer it, ultimately ruining it for those beta men who do want the advice.

[–]RP_Vergil10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of my best come back with this kind of topics. "Some Are just dreaming of the Bad Boys Turn Good."

Trust me this will spur all Hamsters irregardless of gender into Hyper mode.

[–]widec3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If someone presses for my opinion, I'll lay it straight out for them in simple terms. If they want to disagree with logic, then they are not the kind of people I want to hang around with.

I make an exception at work though. It's better just to keep your reputation up there, not a good idea to challenge people's beleifs at the place you make a living.

[–]thenarrrowpath10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I make an exception at work though. It's better just to keep your reputation up there, not a good idea to challenge people's beleifs at the place you make a living.

I agree. Its like what Roosh talks about, "they'll try to take your bread". Unfortunately in this day in age freedom of speech only protects you from governmental tyranny not society tyranny. Which is hypocritical of a society that preaches no censorship (see Charlie Hebdo) yet when the majority disagrees with an idea/speech/position/etc (see Red pill) then all of a sudden censorship is demanded and you are left with out any income.

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

What you say is painfully true.

"True Love" is the Beta Male's religion. The Beta's God they are trying to please is usually their mother.

If these muhfuckas suspended their religious belief in "True Love" and attempted to see the world as it actually is, life would be a whole lot different.

Beta Males are like Scientologists, or the members of any other cult. If you question their beliefs, they get mad. If you point out a different perspective, they don't listen. If you try and give them new information, even if it's obviously true, they reject it.

Treat the Betas like you'd treat a friend from work who happened to be a Scientologist. Joke with them, laugh with them, but you better not mention the fact that their beliefs are fucking insane.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The true love thing really highlights the cognitive dissonance in otherwise very intelligent and analytical men. A convo I had the other day with a friend who is highly intelligent, accomplished and usually very critical, reminded me of this.

We frequently have very in depth conversation in which we always make each other see the opposing point of view, with all emotion left out. In most things he offers very keen insight devoid of any kind of emotional attachment. However, when I asked him why he's in a dysfunctional relationship with a spoiled, fat, loud mouthed harpy, he simply had this to say:

"....because I believe in true love. "

What the actual fuck. So all that brain power which can clearly analyze the ups and downs of almost anything else we talk about just draws a blank when applied to his own personal love life. Jesus fuck, the woman has destroyed his sense of self worth.

[–]rpscrote3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

one of the reasons I found RP is because I analyze everything, and I found everything related to relationships completely devoid of logic or rationales -- just feel good bullshit. I thought -- everything has natural rules and there's no way no one else has never figured it out before. Lo and behold

[–]_fappycamper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like that with religion and politics too. Must be a human condition.

[–]RosewoodPill3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And true love is only from TV and movies. We literally have no other reference points about it.. only fake made up Hollywood shit.

[–]Brolocaustic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Poets and playwrights have written of love for thousands of years. It's not a new phenomena. I don't know what true love is per se but I'd caution against becoming so cynical as to miss out on one of the best parts of life.

[–]BlueFreedom4203 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I think true love can exist but only in divine form. Men will try to project their idealism onto women, who are the ultimate realists. Women are finite and can only produce finite results.

I am not a scientologist but comparing it to stupidly thinking that a woman is your "soul mate" is not a good comparison. A better analogy would be to compare it to people who think the US is a democracy. Or that state capitalism is fair. or perhaps the false notion of being an Alpha male in a western country means anything.

[–]Nantafiria4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh, the US is a democracy alright. It's just one whose people are getting what they deserve.

It offers anyone the opportunity to draw in votes and make a change, but when you have civically uninterested, easily gullible, and politically uneducated, democracy's ugly side rears its head.

No one person is to blame for the state the US is in, but to pretend it's no democracy is laughable.

[–]WacoKid2122 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Gotta agree here. The U.S. Is 100% a democracy. And that's why we are completely fucked.

[–]buttheadface 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

No the U.S. Is a republic, which is kinda democracy

[–]2012Aceman4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The United States used to be a Republic. But now it is a Democracy. Ever since the 17th Amendment we've been trending downward into mob rule. In a Republic our elected officials make the hard decisions. If they make good decisions, they stay. If they make bad ones, or ones we don't like, we send them home. In a Democracy all that is required is pandering and promising, results don't matter, only public perception does. Democracy is the government of whores, in the biblical sense.

[–]badnews6string0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Every republic will regress into democracy, every democracy will descend into despotism.

[–]Nantafiria0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a democratic republic, the same way England is a democratic monarchy. There have been and are undemocratic republics(Venice, North Korea), but the US is not one of them.

[–]revofire0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

One. I looked up scientologists but I still can't get a good grasp on what they're about. Two. I do believe in true love but only by this standard: it takes two to hold a relationship together. If you don't put out, it will die. If she doesn't put out, it will die. And the only THE ONE for you is the one you make it and the one that accepts. That's my ideology, is that not in line with TRP thinking?

[–]jobs33ker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's my ideology, is that not in line with TRP thinking?

That's actually a convoluted question. The answer would be that it straddles the line of trp thinking. "The one you make it" sounds like the "one you settle for" which in and of itself is not really in line with trp thinking.

However...if the one you "settle" for can get your dick hard for the next 30 years, then have at it! Nothing blue pill about that.

[–]revofire0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So never settle is what you're saying? I mean love is by choice, choose what you will. If that choosing includes never settle, then have at it!

[–]zhu_0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Basically true love is a human construct, isnt it?

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The anger phase has to be directed somewhere: first it's at the messenger, then women, then the media, then society... And eventually you realise you've only yourself to blame.

It's the last part that makes the red pill so hard to swallow.

[–]_the_shape_4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The pain begins to subside once you start to see results from better grooming, a better physique, a better mindset, better disposition etc. Then you can graduate from thinking "why don't any girls like me for me" and on to "of course there weren't any girls interested in that version of me - hell, I wouldn't date myself either if I were a girl". In short, you begin to both see where you went wrong and (finally) accept responsibility for your failures.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I approve this message.

I tried a couple times to save a BP man but only got shit for it. Now, I just encourage it.

BP - "Yeah my girl cheated on me but we are in love so we worked it out"

Me - "Good for you, man. I'm glad it worked out."

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[–]1beerthroway3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's nice guy syndrome. "If I do something nice for someone else they'll reciprocate." They expect others to do something in return. It's like what girls do to them all the time: "if only you could read my mind..."

[–]Thermillimeter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I may be a nice guy, but I am not getting into relationships. Blue pill people are assholes bruh

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That last line is perfect. That's all you can say.

[–]oddtimesigs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't have said it any better. If they're BP to the core, let them bask in it I suppose.

[–]GentLemonArtist19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Story time - I had a male friend of a few years. He was AFC, broke up with his gf to experience the world. She was in demand and got dick within a week. His social life died out, and he paid and dated strippers. Because he is a BP, trollX posting idiot he got zero lays.

Anyway, I talked him up to a group of girls I know because i thought we're bros. he dates one and within a month she's sick of his beta and no tingles. She says this at dinner with me and her gfs - how she constantly wanted to fuck an ex because he's JUST SO NICE.

I call later to see how he's doing ... Bitches man. Anyway, he goes the fuck off , rages at me, later tries to convince a plate to leave me and weeks laterthrows me out of a party when I turn up.

My good friend left thst party with me and plate was fine but he's in contact with 2 of my social circles, including the girls I talked him up to.

I'll never bro-knight again.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

wow dude what in the fuck. im angry for you. fuck that loser fucking faggot if it wasn't for you he wouldn't have shit. backstabbing cunt, he's a woman I hope his dick falls off.

[–]GentLemonArtist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

nah, it's my fault. My mistake was expecting reciprocity. I can't take away what I gave - that's a good lesson. By his BP lense, I was mysoginistic to call his recent ex a bitch. They probably has the 'I love u by I'm not IN LOVE' talk, and my real talk was out of line with her hamster that he had bought into.

[–]JackGoldsteinWrites41 points42 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I hate to break it to you OP but any increase in your life success is going to cause a commensurate increase in loneliness.

Old friends will, out of jealousy or feelings of comparative inadequacy, begin to snark, bitch, backbite, etc. There is going to be very little loyalty even among bros.

Red Pill forces men to be the best versions of themselves in a lot of ways. This is another type of success. You will completely lose the inclination to associate with your old BP crowd and they will not welcome you.

You'll get called selfish, asshole, misogynist, prick, chauvinist, etc. The way I see though, me and my girl are infinitely happier doing our thing basically alone, me in charge, her in dutiful submission. We look at our increasingly distant friends with their BP style relationships and all we see is unhappiness.

But yeah, that's the price to pay for excellence : Loneliness.

[–]1independentmale16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

any increase in your life success is going to cause a commensurate increase in loneliness.

This is true. I found out who my real friends were when I started doing well financially. Out of the dozen or so guys I grew up with and spent most of my time with, only one remains a friend today.

It really hit home one evening at a poker game, something we all used to do weekly but I'd been finding my invites coming less and less frequently. There was drinking involved, as usual, but this time it got out of hand and things were said. My best friend at the time made some comments about my new house and added a snarky "but you're better than all of us now that you live in (name of my neighborhood). We get it." I tried to let it go, told myself he was just drunk and he didn't mean it, but it really bothered me.

Later, he asked me to take a look at his computer as he was having trouble with it. I had to remind him that it had been a decade since I last did any sort of Windows support or administration - I'd long ago moved into management and quite frankly had very little experience troubleshooting the latest Microsoft operating systems. I told him I'd be happy to look, but suggested another mutual friend, who had more recent experience in this matter, might be better suited. He responded with more snarky bullshit and a long diatribe - in front of everyone, no less - about "yeah we all know you're a big shot manager now, you're too good to help me fix my computer, you're too rich to stoop down to our level" and so on. I'd had enough. I walked out and have not been back.

When I was younger, I was under the impression that well off people were snobs. I was wrong. The real issue is people who aren't as well off struggle with feelings of jealousy and inadequacy and it's easier to cast the guy with the money as the villain. The people I thought were my friends turned on me because they couldn't deal with their own insecurities. My success served as a constant reminder of their mediocrity and even though I loved them just the same and wanted to hang out and be bros like we always had, they couldn't deal.

Fuck 'em and good riddance. My former best friend who made those comments has turned into little more than a sloppy drunk. Last time I ran into his wife, she said he drinks so much he's constantly stumbling around, falling over, getting mad and breaking shit and he pisses the bed most nights.

It's lonely at the top, but I'll take it.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You will completely lose the inclination to associate with your old BP crowd and they will not welcome you.

This happens naturally as people change over time. It's not something unique to TRP. It applies to any kind of change in life because in general, everybody just wants to be friends with others who are similar to themselves.

[–]laere0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly why I like being a lonewolf.

[–]krustytheclown212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to care that my friends were blue pill. Now, I am more focused on my own life and don't give a shit about anyone really. Except my folks.

[–]paleoman19926 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of my workout buddies and i parted company when i swallowed the pill last may.Absorbed the side bar,lurked for months in private, not saying anything. I told him to stop sticking his nose up these sloots asses at the gym. He was a pussy beggar. Always trying to hug them. Smiling,talking them up with endless compliments-made me sick to watch it. Were both divorced and got fucked in family court. Think he'd learn,right? We'd go out-he was quick to flush his dough buying drinks for every broad that flirted. I observed quietly for a while and tried to save his beta ass by explaining how he should wise up reel it in a bit. Told him about the pill finally. He said i was fubar and angry. and we parted company over this issue directly. Let me say were both 50,have good jobs,lift hard and often and keep ourselves fit. Learned right there i don't want to share this site or this info with dumb hopeless people. I have a new lens i look through everyday after swallowing the pill. Haven't seen him lately-hes proba bly doing some chore play for some post wall snaggletooth so he can get his monthly dry hand job.


[–]Vigilo_Infinite7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A few of Vigilios Life protocols:

Social skills 101:

Tell people what they want to hear.

Law 38:

Think as you like, but behave like others.

And finally...

"If you ever make a tribe of people feel less than, some day they will come for you."

When you are better than someone, it will push those buttons in their heads that activate disrespect, flippancy and emotional backstabbing.

People will always feel exposed when you are better than them. By being better than them they will feel bad because they want to be you. Then, they will come for you.

I used to really dislike Owen Cook (Tyler) from RSD (youtube it) until I did some introspective thinking. I discovered that the reason I found him obnoxious was because I couldn't do what he did. He stole the attention from those around him and didn't give a shit if you were having a good time. He was there to enjoy himself, not listen to anyone bellyache.

[–]asdfghjkltyu7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its very true. I've had friends outright stab me in the back trying to get with women I've dated. Its pathetic. Any guy who idiolizes 'true love' or any of that nonsense is not friend material.

[–]MajorStyles7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"At the heart of every beta is a timid, cowardly, backstabbing person filled with jealous rage."

So very true. Cut them out ASAP from your inner circle.

[–]mEatBucket5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

First time poster long time lurker here.

Speaking from personal experience, dropping the bomb is a terrible idea even if you only has the best interest of your friend in mind. The way to go is to subtly hint or encourage him to make "bad" decissions. I dropped the nuke on my friend and we barely spoke for a year but we're all good now and he's kind of a manslut nowadays. Not all thanks to me obviosly but I like to think I served a small part.

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[–]mEatBucket1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I were living in another city at the time so breaking contact wasnt hard. It happened when he visited me, we got shitfaced and I told him his gf were riding the CC (she were abroad for a year and that's enough evidence for me). When drunk he chatted up some lady and I encouraged him to go home with her because "your gf is probably doing the same". Before this we talked alot over phone but after this when I visited my hometown and wanted to meet up I were ignored. All good though, he apologized and even helped me move out in the end.

[–]thebalrog_ofmorgoth6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

at first, i read the title as "Your blue pill friends will turn you on". was really confused there for a second

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS NIGGA'S GAY!! haha nah I read it as that, too.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Absolutely this. I was working once and we got on the topic of my friend who's ltr is using him for betabux, how he pays for all her shit, drives her everywhere, she fucked over the best friendship he had with someone for years. Oh and top it off they're getting a place together and he'll be footing most if not all of the bills since she won't be working, but setting up a "business" doing stick and poke tattoos. and I was saying that this was fucked up to do over pussy and I was viciously attacked. God forbid I watch out for my friends best interests. A girl did this to my cousin and guess what? Sperm jacked.

[–]sothavok5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This reminds me of when i told my gf's bestfriend's boyfriend that he had been cheated on twice, once before they went on vacation in Europe and once during the trip. My GF told me this with the exception that i would hide her bestfriend's secret (lol).

I told the guy and with-in the next hour his gf text me in a rage as if shes somehow justified. I shamed her over text and told her to fuck off only to have beta-boy defend her. They broke-up only to get back together.

Either way had to set an example for my GF and for any of her scandalous friends that think its ok to cheat.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Either way had to set an example for my GF and for any of her scandalous friends that think its ok to cheat.

Good on you. You did the right thing, sucks that beta faggot got back with his whore of a girlfriend.

[–]DreadLockedHaitian2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good call. Don't let your GF think that shit can stay secret, or is ok at all.

[–]Rougepellet4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't be friends with anyone who is fine raising a child his wife had after fucking another dude. Says a lot about their character. Spineless, illogical, really fucking beta (this much beta in a guy is repulsive to me), to name a few.

[–]Waldo001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The whole other people kid things comes with an age. If your both older or both have kids from other people its not a big deal. It's when a single mom latches in to a blue pill guy...Being a young guy and becoming a father just to get pussy is the ultimate blue pill.

[–]Nazrath21122 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So true. Was arguing with a couple people about women in games and shit. For three days the battle raged. Then someone said to me "Are you a red piller". I had no idea what that meant.

So sad to see people when you question their beliefs turn on a rage and want to fight but the minute you show them something from their side that makes them question their beliefs, they vanish like pedophile priests when the pope shows up.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this. I love friendship dynamic articles more than any other.

To add to your story, I've had friends tell their gfs our most intimate/raunchy stories from our youth painting me as the whore/bad guy. Later on, the bitchy gf will take a jab at me by alluding to something she shouldn't know. This ultimately ruins my friendship with both people. It's sad really. I'm just waiting to watch them go through their divorce in a couple years.

[–]gbmad733 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Having been the BP in the position you're talking about, don't get discouraged. You can give that advice without alienating them.

One of my friend's dads has been an incredible mentor and now friend to me for a long time. He's basically RP without knowing what RP is. He has always offered me RP advice my whole life and looking back it has always rang completely true.

Keep providing that advice, the BP just wont hear it til he unplugs himself. I didn't realize the relationship advice he gave me was 100% spot on until I did.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had a friend, tried to help but he did turn on me.

I was a college first year and we had girls that we were gonna talk to and get to know. He had the dumpy looking asian and I had the hot guyanese chick.

It wasn't working out for him, but me and that other chick was getting closer.

That's when he turned on me, I tried to help him with that dumpy looking chick. He gave the guyanese girl the chat logs we had, it was basically dude bro shit. Talking about how I'm gonna fuck her, and that I know she's a whore.

I didn't get it, he definitely wasn't her type. What did he hope to achieve? Did he hate the fact that I was helping him and he was fucking up? I had no intention on giving up on him until he fucked me over.

So THAT happened, she and him never spoke since which is what he told me weeks later. I didn't acknowledge him, like he was a ghost of the past. She was using him like the amateur he was.

I fucked the dumpy looking asian chick though :)

[–]jobs33ker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's both jealousy and ego maniacal bullshit that results in actions like that. No surprise here!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

haha fucked yo bitch, you pussy!

[–]SeekingTheWay2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Neo: I can't go back, can I? Morpheus: No. But if you could, would you really want to? I feel I owe you an apology. We have a rule. We never free a mind once it's reached a certain age. It's dangerous, the mind has trouble letting go. I've seen it before and I'm sorry.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why anybody keeps trusting these people is beyond me. You know they're only loyal to the pussy!

[–]DreadLockedHaitian2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same dudes that are in love every other week.

Yeah dude, keep banging those fat chicks.

[–]Thermillimeter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They are loyal to their government, their religion, the media and their schools. Basically they are loyal to their Kool-Aid that they drink, not to you.

[–]prodigyx2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

however you will be asking to get stabbed in the back by these guys, since that is a white knight betas default course of action

Literally. I have been sucker-punched, jumped, and straight up tackled by angry BPs. So much rage pent up in these poor young men. I feel bad for them after I finish beating their ass because they aren't angry at me, they are angry at a world that they can't understand.

[–]foldpak1112 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They went pretty far with this, in my experience. They ostracized me for watching Elliot Hulse and online yoga sessions. Self development really fucks with peoples heads.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"At the heart of every beta is a timid, cowardly, backstabbing person filled with jealous rage."

White knights all the way.

[–]boscoist3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Really? i turned my brother and my best friend in 2min and i casually drop RP strategies on dating with my coworkers who are struggling. occasionally they don't take me seriously, but usually they listen.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's possible they weren't that BP to begin with. I think age is also a factor. The older a blue piller gets without taking the RP, the more likely they are to reject the truth once it is revealed.

[–]paradimeshift2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends. Sometimes people have a sinking suspicion which grows over time that something is wrong with their world. They don't know what it is, but once they realize it, either through mistakes or some other means, they reject the blue pill hard. Often the red pill goes in it's place.

[–]DreadLockedHaitian2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes people have a sinking suspicion which grows over time that something is wrong with their world.

Exactly my experience.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I find most of the guys I talk to agree for the most part.

[–]zhu_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a buddy whose blue pill ask f*** He says I lost faith in true love and romance after I got played by a girl.

Right now he is being a beta-orbiter to his "crush" which I often tell him to snap out of it because she doesnt like you. Inherently he knows but is awaiting for that "opportunity" or "chance" that she may change her mind lol.

After my repeated advices to get him to move on, he still has this oneitis for her. This is when I realised that its no point guilding him any redpill beliefs.

[–]FleshPanda1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This has happened to me alot as I am transitioning into my 30s and most of my friends are married and "want" children. Thier wives are friendly but kinda scarred to have me around because they are threatened by my lifestyle. Sometimes it's better to just let go.

[–]muhamedsaif1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

what were you before swallowing theredpill?

[–]jobs33ker[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was at least open to suggestion, hence why I am here.

[–]DreadLockedHaitian1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They will not only sell you down the river for a whiff of used up pussy, but they will feel morally superior for having done so.

I have a now feminist child hood friend. I don't trust him with much. Especially pertaining to women.

[–]FattestRabbit1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stay vigilant my friends, and don't bother to save your beta friends, because, as you will notice, they hold you in utter contempt.

I'm 26 and what hurts me the most is that since I've started reading TRP, two of my closer male friends have gotten engaged. The pain is real.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The choice of being liked for doing harm or hated for helping extends far beyond BP knights. Choose selfishly.

[–]jobs33ker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very true. In most cases, helping others is a net negative if they don't realize they need help or are actively opposing it.

It's a zero sum game.

[–]drallcom30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've in the past made the mistake of trying to redden people who are hopelessly beta and usually it comes back to bite me in the ass.

Yes, it's a mistake. This isn't limited to RP/BP stuff. No one likes to be told that he's wrong. Try argueing with your church, sports fans, feminists or the internet. My life became so much more relaxed when I stopped argueing (unless I personally benefit).

[–]dabrah10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

After reading through the red pill for a couple months, I noticed that most social groups will have one or two alphas in them, and then a bunch of betas who follow these alphas. If your a beta in a social group, and start to become alpha, the rest of the group will try to maintain the status quo that has already been established (aka your a beta not an alpha) by making fun of your self improvement, telling you to stop being a dick etc. At this point you basically need to start a new social group- its a lot easier than trying to change an established dynamic.

[–]micloudon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was friends with BP guy once and then as a test I told I couldn't smoke him out. He bitch raged at me and showed me who he really was, don't miss him at all. When you stop supplicating these weak people, they will stab you in the back first chance

[–]Purecorrupt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Blue pill / Red pill it doesn't matter. All friends have expiration dates to me. They might not be obvious, but as someone who grew up in a military family I don't go out of my way to keep friends closer than "facebook connected" if relationship dynamics change.

Friend moves to a different state? Nice knowing you.

Friend quits playing basketball / hanging out - well have fun doing whatever it is you're doing now.

Moving to a new company on the other side of town? I'll let you know if I'm ever in the area.

I guess with that said I'm also not friends with many "couples" or "married people" in general. The whole third wheel makes me feel uncomfortable or even 5th etc. I'll hang out once in a blue moon and that usually means I'm never involved enough to hear the women ask me for validation too often or know intricate relationship shit that I could care less about.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm. I've first hand expierence literally fighting a friend like this.

[–]Billybob251120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They'll turn on you because they weren't your friends to begin with. Friends don't talk shit about you, they don't betray you for personal gain and they most definitely don't try to get with your ex behind your back.

If I hadn't taken the Pill I would have probably still be in that social circle today. Thanks TRP!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

My buddies are alpha as fuck and I love it.

[–]monzzter2210 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I started to cull people for this very reason.

Understand that I am an evil son of a bitch.

When someone says something to me like what your friend said to you, they immediately move from the "equal man" category to the "bitch made, I'll humor this guy and probably take him for 50 bucks" category. I'm sure some people disagree, but I'm not in the business of saving hoes, whether they be women or men. And I don't care how long I've known you, how much we've been through as buddies, the minute you show yourself to be a bitch you lose value in my eyes. I literally don't care what happens to them. They get herpes, they get cuckolded, they get divorce raped, I don't care. I dont try to talk sense into them.

See, it doesn't matter if you see it coming. You can't stop it. And you shouldn't want to. Enjoy the pain suffered by your fellow man. Watch and laugh at their expense. If they can't learn as men from it and become better for it then they deserve every bit of it.

But you don't have to ditch them entirely. They are still useful. They call them tools because that's what they are.

Now I also have real friends. Men that are men. And we treat each other with respect.

[–]sunwukong1550 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have to comment because this has been driving me mad lately. I am losing so many friends and it's not easy for me to handle.

I got a nicer paying job recently, and I have been lifting religiously for over a half a year. My entire philosophy and habits have changed and it's becoming very apparent.

My friends are dear to me, they helped me through hard times but they all seem to want nothing to do with me.

Most are still pot heads. One works at sub way, 2 wash dishes. One has no job. Another good friend has never been on a date, refuses to work out or talk to women. He is going to school at least and will make good money but his dream is to be a beta bux.

Whenever I hang out with them it seems all they do is try to bring me down a peg. I can't just get a beer with them and talk and laugh, there is always this primal response that makes them wanna one up me or belittle me. That or they complain about how rigged the system is and how their victims.

I just want to improve myself but keep my old friends. It's hard for me to deal with. I guess the answer is find high value friends, but I see value in my old friends. Their my bros, but they stopped treating me that way.

Really sucks, not sure what to do.

[–]Thermillimeter0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That shit is so fucking true. I say that every day man. Blue pill "ignorance" is basically anger, hatred, jealousy, and rage. But they are masters at treachery. Ignorance is NOT bliss, that is why they stuff themselves with external motivations such as caffeine shots. They are extremely depressed. I was one at 14. Thankfully I got truth dropped on me at that time, so the red pill is easy for me to take. Now I no longer have the desire to date. It's not just the MGTOW red pill, but the Global Agenda red pill as well. The Right to Die/self ownership red pill is also very important. DAMN, I am a red pill popping son of a bitch. The system may be rigged, but he have to change it, and it starts with us.

So this: The red piller is one willing to know more about the truth, one who follow his dream and purpose in life. Red pillers are willing to make their own point of view, it doesn't have to be conspiracies, but at least they know doing the right thing and being successful isn't enough. They think for themselves, they question authority, they have an open mind, and are prone to experience new things. They are actually ones to live and let go.

The Red Piller wants to become a spiritual, metaphysical and superior being. The person taking the red pill uses logic, reasoning and is very intelligent. Though it may seem he isn't aware off what is surrounding him, he actually doesn't give a fuck about what is surrounding him because he sees reality for what it is. He does not get involved with women at the slightest; if he does it's going to be a pleasant intelligent conversation, if not a platonic friendship. He shuns and avoids romance at every turn and doesn't mind getting friendzoned. He is easily accepted into groups just for being himself, but would rather live life on his own terms. Red pillers are very loyal to what is true, and they are loyal to you. Red pillers like us are always curious about learning something new, and we have street smarts and self education.

Try telling that to your blue-pill friends.

[–]TaiserLaser-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You sound like a fucking cultist

[–]Nazrath21120 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Its called the cult of being a man.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This just happened to me a couple months ago. This guy was a wingman of sorts, we met up at parties and went out to pull some chicks. We had a different moral code I guess, because he got really offended when I cheated on my girlfriend so he told her and it pissed a bunch of people off at me. It was good to burn the slag off of my friend circle, but it felt pretty shitty.

I just fucked the love of his life and called him out in front of his friends which made him look like a little bitch. Now whenever I see him he ducks his head and leaves.

The struggle is real. Don't try to redden anyone. I have one friend who follows TRP philosophy and he found it on his own.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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