Does anyone feel that because of the NiceGuysTM stereotype, it's affected genuinely good guys as well, even though the people who criticise the former always make out like it doesn't. For example, you could have a guy that:

- is genuinely kind, empathetic, compassionate, etc. and therefore does not use acts of kindness to get into a woman's pants

- has genuinely attractive qualities and therefore only seeks to date women of the same league

- still struggles with dating

But because of r/niceguys and NiceGuyTM stereotyping, these guys can't talk about their struggles and also people will assume the worst about you: that you are a NiceGuyTM, that you are an "incel", that you are an NEET neckbeard, etc. All so that some people can have a cheap thrill out of making fun of some douchebags on the internet (r/niceguys sub).

Who would like to see a discussion platform for good men with good values, where anti-nice guy logic is ripped apart, with screenshots, etc. Kind of like a reverse r/niceguys idea to prove to people (and yes, feminists) that there do indeed exist guys who:

- is genuinely kind, empathetic, compassionate, etc. and therefore does not use acts of kindness to get into a woman's pants

- has genuinely attractive qualities and therefore only seeks to date women of the same league

- still struggles with dating

For this reason, I have started r/goodmengoodvalues