A Redditor who goes by the username u/onthegoodyearblimp came to WAATGM to ask us a question. Since it violates the posting rules it was removed, but the question is worth answering for the sake of people who visit without understanding what we do here, as well as for more seasoned people. After hearing from the other mods I'm going to bring the discussion here, and hopefully OP can get a variety of answers.

Do not harass the OP, as this has all the appearances of being a legitimate attempt at understanding.

I will post the question and then my response to it.

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OP's question:

I've been following this sub and I agree with just about all of it, but I have an honest question.

So women are attracted to bad boys and if only they could choose "nice guys" both women and men would be happier overall in the long run.

But couldn't the same be said that if men could just get over their attraction to young, thin, pretty women and choose faithful and loving homemakers, who happen to be less physically attractive, we'd also all be happier, too?

It just seems like a double standard, blaming women for not overcoming their sexual preferences and not blaming men for not overcoming their own sexual preferences.

Am I wrong?

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My response:

A lot of women gravitate toward "bad boys" because it is in their nature to do so. Civilization is the result of a group of people's decision to put long-term collective benefits over short-term individual pleasures, though. Since demography is destiny it is a very foolish thing to allow flighty and impressionable young women to be the sole arbiters of it. They need guidance - lots of guidance - and just as young men have always had their options constrained and their duties made clear (far more than women ever have, by the way), a society that permits young women to run wild doesn't have much of a future.

But I'll answer your question for educational purposes, and I'll start by saying that your premise is flawed. It's flawed because you think that thin, attractive women are the female equivalents of "bad boys." They're not. The female equivalent of a "bad boy" is a "bad girl," and she make be thin or fat, pretty or plain, rich or poor. What she is not, though, is virtuous. What she is also not is genuinely feminine. A THOT can fake femininity with make-up and clothing that emphasizes the feminine appearance of her face and body, but inside - where it really matters - she's strangling her femininity.

Both men and women are visual creatures, and a good fake (especially in conjunction with raging hormones), can fool a guy into thinking that a "bad girl" is something she is not. I suppose you could make the case that "bad boys" have a similar effect on impressionable young women, but the women bear the greater responsibility since women are the gatekeepers of sex and, by extension, the demography of their family/tribe/nation/civilization. That's why every civilization worthy of the name constrained the sexual license of young women more than that of men. It's not that man-whores have been universally lauded (in the Old Testament of the Bible they could be stoned to death), but rather an acknowledgement that she who possesses the ability to bring life has a unique ability to either push civilization forward or send it back.

Men have their own burdens to bear and constraints that go with them. We have to work and provide and sacrifice for women and children... including at the cost of our own lives. If men get a bit less stigma for tom-catting around, remember that women get no stigma for not marching to the front lines when an enemy approaches.

That said, there's a place where the decisions of men are criticized. That place is called EARTH, and this (WAATGM) is one of the very few places where we say, "Not here." Nobody here thinks that all women are bad/whores/selfish or that all men are good/virtuous/selfless, but WAATGM isn't the place for those discussions. Every other place does that. It's not even that we don't do that ourselves: it's that we don't do that here.