Here's a good litmus test: When FDS divides men into LVM and HVM, if you were told you belonged into either of these categories, which of them would upset you more?

We speak endlessly of how women pick "Chad" or "Tyrone" or so-on, and how that naturally perpetually fucks them over- lots of black eyes, cheating, him turning out to not have had a career/be so good as a father, and so on. It's literally the basis of our partner-sub.

That's also what they define as LVM.

In other words, FDS isn't about correcting men. It isn't about shaping us into simps.

It's about shaping the cysturhood into recognising that the men they chose is toxic. It's opening their eyes to exactly what we've been saying for years.

Example comments:

we love men too much [even] when they mistreat, beat, and abuse us. is it so difficult to see that this sub is just about leaning to make sure we give that love to someone worthy of it? Nothing wrong with wanting to be safe and happy Sisters.

Basically, "Chad mistreats us. As much as some of us profess to love it, we have to recognise that it's not good for us."

You want womens' awakening and where they flip 'the switch' close to 30 and they realise their "preferences need to change" and so on? This sub is the best place for it.

Yes, their "HVM" are basically betas. Their dating equivalent of broccoli- they hate it when they're younger, then learn they need it when they're older. (They'll never quite "love it," of course. Give anyone under 30 an option between something that promises to be 'as healthy as broccoli but taste like pizza!' they'll jump for that, before jumping for actual-broccoli.)

The solution, to fix marriage? Start them on it younger, start them on recognising the signs of an "HVM" before he's 25. Start them early on rejecting cheesy sugary shit that 'feels good in the moment.' Delayed gratification is where all human achievement lies. The greatest scientific endeavours, the greatest discoveries, all lay over the horizon and took time to find. The west has fallen into decadence and hedonism and instant-gratification.

That will be our downfall, unless we can work together here. I think FDS is women realising their dual-mating strategy has failed them utterly.

You want fireworks, you want your parade? This is it. This is women throwing in the towel and realising that they are going unmarried, abused, and spat on, while the good men they should have gone for and would have married if the men weren't aware of how raw the deal's gotten, are walking away. Take it back 50 years ago and those same good men who have walked away, would have been dating and married in their 20s.

So, you want your victory? Here it is. FDS is it. Don't hate FDS for existing and ending the party just because they figured out that you've figured out how to short-circuit their bullshit arrangement.

Revel in its existence, and in what it means- a possible return to selecting good values in partners.

Now, their hatred for LVM is mistakenly mirrored by us in our hatred for LVF- fat chicks who talk mad shit about guys. Remember- to us, LVM = "Beta/prenaturally undesirable." They are saying the abusive Chads are the LVM- not guys who have focused on their careers.

What a jump in perspective they've made.