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"Happily Married" woman still reminiscing Chad from decade ago

February 4, 2022
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Title "Happily Married" woman still reminiscing Chad from decade ago
Author Marfi09
Upvotes 611
Comments 236
Date February 4, 2022 9:19 AM UTC (11 months ago)
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[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 301 points302 points  (80 children) | Copy Link

Like a junkie, Chaddicts will always crave the next high.

Getting involved with one of these women gives you a choice: You can either be the dealer or the poor schmuck that gets his house robbed to pay for her next high. Sometimes both if you are overconfident.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 175 points176 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

Real talk, I have a girl who I dated when I was younger (I dumped her for crossing a soft boundary, FDB). She is now married with kids, she still likes my IG pictures, views my stories and texts me pictures of us when we were still together. The Rose-Jack Dynamic is real, and is an eye opener when it comes to female nature. Avoid them at all costs. And as you get older as a man, date younger women.

[–]The_Choir_Invisible 117 points118 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

tl;dnr: Just my weird stalky ex-gf story.

I dated a women for around two years between something like 1989-91. Two years. I was 17/18 and she was 22/23. After I broke up with the woman, she obsessively kept tabs on me for about 11 years. It was so bad I had one of her boyfriends afterward physically confront me in person to try to figure out what kind of sway I held over her and the person who she wound up marrying asked her friends (some of whom were still friends of mine from high school who I worked with) why my name was on her lips so much. One of the guys he'd asked tipped me off, which was surreal. There were calls to my parents house for years and years, 2-3 times a year, just her asking if I was home. She was never impolite. Sometimes there were calls that just hung up with someone else answered. It was very, very bordering on stalky, if not overtly stalky.

It ended when my child was born around 2000. Ten years after that, around 2008, I wound up having a long conversation with the the guy from high school who'd tipped me off about her husband's inquiries (they were divorced by this time) and there was so much more that I didn't know. She'd actually been keeping tabs on me through every one of her friends who might have some information about me to the point that it was very irritating to them, but they didn't complain to me. She knew who I was currently dating, where I was living, where I was working. As much as she could know. She did not do this with any other living soul she dated, to the best of my knowledge.

TWIST: In 89-91 we dated, we had fun. I was 18, she was 23. She was more attractive than I was. I'm not a very attractive guy and my penis is painfully average. She was obsessed with me.....basically for no reason. We literally did not have any kind of whirlwind romance or anything.

DoubleTWIST: In like 2009/10 or something, she got my number of my flip phone from a friend who didn't realize not to give out my number and she texted me just asking if it was (my nickname) and who she was. In my head I was like "Fuck this" and said yep, this is me, I'm calling you now. I called her and she sounded shocked but otherwise it was a cordial conversation. She didn't really have any questions for me. She was just...on the other end of the phone. I had a couple of questions for her, mainly what the deal was with the stalking. She literally just said something like "I don't really have a good answer for that." Not, "Man, what we had back in 1990 was the best thing ever!" No, it was "I.....I don't know. I don't." She didn't apologize for it. She just verbally shrugged. We chatted some more. Everything was cordial. She told me she has sex with a lot of people. That's what it is. I only bring that up because after she said that I flashed on something and I asked her about when we would have sex, she would only allow us to have sex in a very specific position and in a specific way. It only went down exactly in this particular way which was something she asked for. For the whole two-ish years we went out. I asked her about why that was. She got very evasive and said she didn't know how or if she could explain why. I pressed her and she said, just like the stalk-y behavior, she didn't have an answer. We chatted cordially some more then wished each other well and hung up.

There's no punch line. That's what happened. It's so fucking weird. Your mention of the ex who still likes you IG pictures and stuff just brought all those memories flooding back.

Edit: I'm just reading over this and I haven't thought about it in so long. I know it's just another Reddit post, but I feel sick to my stomach like I'm going to puke. I can't really put my finger on why, either. I'm not anxious or upset. The whole thing, all of it, doesn't make any sense. I'm almost 50 and I'm good at making sense of things. This still, after all these years, really makes no sense.

[–]AurelianWayJr. Hamster Analyst 55 points56 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hindsight is 20/20 but you should have never talked to her in 2010. Even after decades have passed she was still looking for a way to get under your skin and she succeeded man even now. Women who keep in contact like this with ex's over the years only do so for selfish reasons.

She was hoping that you would be miserable in some facet of your life because your misery is what brings her joy. Anyways it's the weekend soon so try to unwind and best of luck to you brother.

Edit: Spelling

[–]The_Choir_Invisible 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I'm going to try to focus on that. It's been a difficult week for unrelated reasons and it'll be nice to slip into the weekend.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitches be crazy, it seems that you found a girl with BPD (borderline personality disorder). Trying to rationalize the irrational will make you go mad. In my experience the only counter to crazy girls is rock solid frame, and emotional resilience. If she sees weakness she will pounce.

[–]teniceguy 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think she is lying, but we will never know. Or just accidentally got stuck in a compulsive mental circle.

[–]RunawayGrainWAATGM & TRP Endorsed 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you me in from a different dimension? Except I had to get a restraining order and when Daddy Warbucks divorced her she went totally mental. The saving grace is that when that happened she mostly started focusing on him and started leaving me and mine alone.

[–]AldabruzzoNo busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 14 points15 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It didn't make sense to you probably because it was an average relationship that proceeded very average-ly. So why would a woman in an average relationship with you marked by average sex be so obsessed with you after you broke it off?

Could be any number of reasons.

You broke up with her and she wasn't used to getting dumped.

She really cared about you more than she thought.

She never met anyone else who really did it for her better than you did.

She couldn't explain her behavior because she herself can't explain why she was so obsessed with you after having an average relationship with average sex. Or, she didn't want to tell you that she thought you were really pretty great and her life has sucked donkey balls since then.

She didn't actually think you were going to text her back. She didn't actually think she would get to talk to you on the phone. Once she was on the phone with you, she didn't know what to say or how to react, other than to stammer "I don't know" in response to your pointed questions about why she stalked you from afar, why she remained so interested in you after you broke up with her, or why she would fuck you in only one posiition in one specific way. She just never thought she'd actually be asked those questions or how to answer them.... or more likely, could not bring herself to give you the truth.

[–]The_Choir_Invisible 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Or, she didn't want to tell you that she thought you were really pretty great and her life has sucked donkey balls since then.

Yeah, something like that might have gone on.

...or more likely, could not bring herself to give you the truth.

Thank you for typing up those thoughts. Without going into it too much, it had occurred to me the sex thing may have been ritually repeating a specific scenario from a much earlier time in her life of something that had been done to her or that she had done to someone else. Each possibility was equally plausible. I'd dated another, different woman who used to get high every day and she would sometimes request that we had sex a certain (also odd, IMO) way which she'd forgotten she'd described to me as the way one of her first sexual experiences played out. Those are the kinds of things that I could see a person not really wanting to say aloud simply because of the embarrassing questions that might arise.

[–]thejynxed 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sexual imprinting, it seems like.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Man, you know when woman bring things to the sheriff from waaaaayyy back?Good sir, you were dealing with crazy.

[–]The_Choir_Invisible 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't seem to be a part of her character but you have a hell of a point!

[–]Audio_v 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn that's your soulmate bro lmao

[–]nicethingyoucanthaveTRP Endorsed 25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

a soft boundary, FDB

what this mean?

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck Dat Bitch.

[–]Taiut 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for asking. A web search suggested "frozen donkey wheel" and I gave up.

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And as you get older as a man,

You see this bullshit more clearly and it's more and more disgusting with every passing year.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Tell him.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

"You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."

If only it were that easy friend.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I mean just indicate something. Just a poke. Thats all. I kinda feel bad for the guy tbh. Seeing so many girls on tinder plus knowing about how they can just call their ex anytime makes me afraid for marriage. Like women can just shatter a guy's house so easily when he does everything. Insecure, nope, but do not expect me to be your _ _th guy. Good thing got the red pill early.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

/u/Curriconsumer is right with his Morpheus quote.

I feel bad for the guy too, but he'll likely blame Curriconsumer if he tells him.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. Just praying the guy lives a good part of his life without this woman.

[–]Taiut 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Right. With the internet, she arrange 10 minute hookups as easily as getting railed at a club, or while using Tinder when she goes to the the bathroom during a movie.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Nobody will shame them if they start telling truth, but these idiots always lie and then blame the husband. Whose dick will stand up for someone who fucked 69 guys. Even pump and dump is far.

[–]BeholdTheHairMod 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nobody will shame them if they start telling truth

Fuck you I won't.

Women who pull shit like this need to be shamed, both for their own good and that of wider society.

[–]Goldmansachs3030 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I meant it is so common that , probably most men are just going to scream indifference and give her the look and walk away.

[–]meeritaGlobe-trotting mansplainer 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

+1

[–]boomershack 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

FDB

what is fdb?

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck Dat Bitch.

[–]boomershack 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

eyy

[–]Down200 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I dumped her for crossing a soft boundary, FDB

What is a ‘soft boundary’? Wouldn’t a hard boundary be a worse thing to cross?

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 42 points43 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

All well and good but I expect the husband here has no idea he is with a chaddict

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 74 points75 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

He will get that 'I love you, but I am not in love with you' red pill suppository one day.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 25 points26 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

For sure. At some point I am tempted to look into what people theorise women mean when they say that

Because in my view two different meanings of love are used in that statement and neither are:

  • the meaning of love
  • how men understand love

Which is why it is so particularly devastating and baffling in equal measure

First seems to be “respect you just about enough to not completely disappear” - but usually with the added qualifier of “and circumstances are such that I can’t just ghost”

The second is clearly “you don’t give me the tingles anymore”

So in that common phrase the word love is used twice - both times incorrectly

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is simple - 'I love money and stability you give, but 0 tingles'.

'So I am trying to keep current arrangement of money and attention flowing my way and 0 things you want going back your way, as those needs are fulfilled by penniless Chad'.

[–]Snoid_Jr. Hamster Analyst 23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I got those exact words when my marriage was ending. She denied it at the time, but my gut was screaming at me, and I eventually found out it was because she had been cheating for months (again). And she told me those words one day after we got back from a cruise we had been planning for almost a year.

From my experience and from several others, if a woman ever says this to you, she 100% means it, and is most likely cheating and/or getting ready to monkey-branch.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

By “says this” do you mean the love you but not in love ones?

Because I assumed that was usually a phrase used as part of the break up talk. Obviously not in your cruise example

[–]Snoid_Jr. Hamster Analyst 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, "I love you but I'm not in love with you." Sorry I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

[–]AurelianWayJr. Hamster Analyst 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She is pretty much saying:

I don't get aroused by you anymore which means I can longer respect you so If I can't respect you then I want nothing to do with you. Unless you want to keep spending money on me and giving me validation then I will tolerate you from a casual distance and on terms that I strictly desire.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [M] 8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

For sure. At some point I am tempted to look into what people theorise women mean when they say that

Because in my view two different meanings of love are used in that statement and neither are:

  • the meaning of love

  • how men understand love

Iron Rule of Tomassi #6:

Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved.

Link: https://therationalmale.com/2011/12/27/women-in-love/

[–]lurkerhasarisenA Strategist Among Tacticians 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah... I don't really get that line. I've never had anyone say it to me, but I imagine my response would be to shrug my shoulders and say, "OK... and? Your infatuation is not required."

[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In modern era it is 'marital rape', as anything involving woman requires her full consent that can be revoked at any time or even in the future (metoo movement).

Mens consent in gynocentric world is not required for anything.

[–]polishknightusaEndorsed Winged Hussar 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My theory on Chaddicts and modern women's general discontent:

After millennia of "oppression", women are accustomed to being protected and managed. It's why they reject "the Patriarchy" but replace it with socialist sugar daddies.

A responsible adult man who sees a woman whose not utterly worthless like some of the profiles we see here will go "Yeah, she's fat but she has a pretty face. I can bang" or "She's got a goofy face but a hot rack" and such. Also, men are expected to "keep it in our pants" and if we're attracted to a woman, but we could lose our jobs by propositioning her, we restrain ourselves.

Sexual liberation for women was like giving a 10 year old girl the keys to the family car, the credit cards, and the keys to the liquor cabinet.

They both cannot control themselves from flirting with danger and at the same time, can't make "normal" "boring" relationships work. They'll eat ice cream and candy for breakfast, lunch and dinner because they "feel" like it. Even worse, their "feelings" oppress them as such hedonism leads to dopamine burnout.

Women are capable of learning personal restraint and a work ethic, but it requires discipline from an early age (I'm on my 5 year old about it). It's one of the hardest aspects of parenting.

[–]manfrom-nantucket 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

With no lube

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 26 points27 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

You mention “getting involved with these women”. But I can’t imagine many choose to get involved with chaddicts / alpha widows.

(Interesting question - is there a difference between the two or is “chaddict” just a fun piece of word play to describe the same thing ?)

I wonder what the signs are? Because they could hide such a thing well. For example this woman cut the guy out of her life and presumably never mentions him and might even pretend that her first love was someone different

And in terms of tips I am aware of broad brush ones mentioned in these comments below - “date younger women with less baggage”. That is a tad too simplistic in my view as someone can be hooked on that type of guy from a very early age. Some tween focused tv shows even cast 18-21 years olds to play 14-15 year old guys and give girls the wrong idea completely. For added effect there is a supporting male (usually nerdy) character who is the right age

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 29 points30 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Chaddict is just an amusing portmanteau to describe the concept.

There's no guaranteed avoidance filters one can practice, just probabilistic ones like you have already noted like age and known dating history. And as her personal timeline advances, the chances of her being a Chaddict approach 1 but are never 0 unless you know where she has been every minute of her life.

So in the end you still need to vet/boundary enforce every day and have an exit plan. No shortcuts!

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Thought so

Thinking on a recent potential example - what if a woman said she watched (and is rewatching) a tv show with hundreds of episodes not for the story - and then sent a picture of the male leads (obvious chads)

I can’t think of many men that would watch long running tv shows just for the women cast in them. There is porn but that is a different thing in my view

But perhaps the closest equivalent in terms of just casually revealing in a chat - oh I spend loads of time watching slim young women with b big tits in movies

Women complain about men who are porn addicts and porn sick (notably on the sub whose name I will not mention). But is it really different to watching shows for an hour per episode to slobber over the tall and handsome leads?

I don’t know but something about the “who said I watch it for the story” caught me the wrong way in this instance. I might be being too judgemental

[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 11 points12 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

But is it really different to watching shows for an hour per episode to slobber over the tall and handsome leads?

Nope. Grey's Anatomy, Criminal Minds, CSI, Sex in the City. It's all just drama porn.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I thought so. So the potentially the equivalent would be a guy telling a girl about the porn he watches and what type of girls are in it

For all the difference it makes

It kind of makes me feel odd because there are some shows that I actually quite like (or used to) that are known for their legions of female fans due to the male leads - supernatural, outlander. What can i say - historical fiction , occult and supernatural stuff etc.

I think I once even had a girl at uni say to me “you do know Supernatural is a show for women don’t you? Look at the main characters”. I had literally never considered it

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So what you are saying is the audience moved from fantasising over which of the two Chad’s to pick from (tall Bad boy Chad or even taller, smart Chad with alpha bucks potential) to dominating the biggest Chad one the planet in a relationship and cucking him at the same time ?

Makes sense I guess

[–]John_Savage69 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

fucking Poledark

[–]boomershack 8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

As soon as they mention an ex just ghost.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 11 points12 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

That seems excessive. Past a certain point you’d expect people to have exes. Context would be important

[–]boomershack 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

That seems excessive

Oh it is.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

And not useful really

[–]boomershack 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I deal with skanks. It's non negotiable.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do skanks bring up exes for different reasons to non-skanks then?

I mean usually it is to try and provoke jealousy I guess. In which case fair enough. Wish I had followed that thought process with my first gf (who wasn’t a skank)

[–]boomershack 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean usually it is to try and provoke jealousy I guess

They are not that self aware.

[–]thejynxed 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some are, but only to the point where they use such as a crude means of attempted manipulation.

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™[M] 18 points19 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Like a junkie, Chaddicts will always crave the next high.

Some people think, that she should just marry Chad.

Here's the truth: that which goes up, must come down. Every high, will come back down. Every Chad will be seen as Billy once the NRE wears off.

If a woman is chasing Chad tingles, she is choosing to become unmarriagable. Period. Because no man can keep the NRE high going forever.

Any woman who expects this, has sky high, unrealistic expectations and therefore, deserves to be alone forever.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. [M] 7 points8 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Every Chad will be seen as Billy once the NRE wears off.

Seconded.

Because no man can keep the NRE high going forever.

Seconded.

[–]prime1000000 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You speak the truth

[–]road_layarightfully adds circus music to life's soundtrack 248 points249 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

She is "happily settled", he is loving and stable. She never mentions having any love for her husband. It's a settlement. The most expensive prostitute you'll ever have.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 100 points101 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

"Men view women as sex objects, women view men as success objects" (Steve Stewart-Williams).

One view is accepted by society as normal, the other is 'misogynistic' (even though both are apart of human nature and completely normal). Shows you how society is tainted by the 'women are wonderful effect'. All aspects of female nature that may come off as unflattering is dismissed.

[–]ChrisPTY507 34 points35 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Dude. This entire society is utterly pussyfied to the point that the woman is usually seen as the victim and the oppressed, while we men are the disposable sex for the most part.

We’re expected to put up with all the demands society and women expect us to meet and accomplish, and the moment we’re no longer needed, hypergamy will do the rest and she will soon be looking for an upgrade.

This society is fucked in so many unfair ways if you’re born as a man, but hey! We gotta deal with it and keep chasing excellence. No wonder why there are so many broken hearts and disappointed people of both genders on dating related topics.

Can we hit a Big Reset button on this whole mess?

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 16 points17 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You have finally taken the path down the white path. Realizing this is what the red pill truly is. There is no reset button. The rules of the game are static. But now that you are armed with the truth you can make informed decisions to your own benefit.

[–]ChrisPTY507 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually I am red pill since the last 4 years. I am well aware of all the BS surrounding this decaying society.

It just annoys me to no end the fact that so many things are unfair. Yes, we gotta deal with it; but it doesn’t take out the fact that this fuxking game is rigged at best, and broken at worst

[–]WallyWithanEmail 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But isnt the whole point of the red pill is that you see through the game (or human nature), and play "the game" on your terms? Thats not unfair if you see it for what it is. It's not like men don't have plenty of advantages in "the game" as well.

[–]3HardWaySr. Hamster Analyst 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we hit a Big Reset button on this mess?

That was COVID.

[–]jayk00 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When you say women don't sexually objectify men,you're in dark. They choose someone to have sex ,by height,dick size, shoulders, hands etc. They won't say this openly but in any case these are true. To check this make a man weaker then send him to dating world. I bet many women would be kind for him but none will be sexually attracted. So don't say only we objectify women.

[–]BeholdTheHairMod 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men view women as sex objects

Except we don't. Women saying men objectify them is and always has been projection.

Men don't objectify women. Men love women. Wholly and automatically, without ever consciously thinking about it. It's as natural to us as breathing.

That's why red pill philosophy relies so heavily on discipline. Why TRP is constantly reminding men to be on guard against Oneitis and sliding back into blue pill thinking. Because that starry-eyed, idealistic/naive dreamer who truly believes Women Are Wonderful and you just need to keep looking until you find your unicorn is who most men, in their heart of hearts, genuinely want to be.

[–]Extension-Soil-620 45 points46 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

With woman like this, its not certain she gives you anything in return for your money. She might even leeches of your time, resources, attention and your mental health.

A prostitute gives you what you agree to, nothing more nothing less.

[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. This is like paying alimony to your one night stand.

[–]SuperbClick 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some prostitute well give you more than you agree to (ie STD’s or backdoor you). Most will give you less because your just another worthless trick and they have their demons too. Careful how you word that last part

[–]AurelianWayJr. Hamster Analyst 33 points34 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's brutal. No affection or respect for her husband. She is living out her own little "titanic story". When she dies and goes to the afterlife, her dreams, thoughts and images will be of "Chad one year fling" and not the dutiful husband who was with her for decades and the father of her kids.

[–]BeholdTheHairMod 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a silly little point of pride to me that I've still never seen Titanic. At first because I was a headstrong teenager who wasn't going to subject myself to a sappy chick flick no matter how many accolades it won. Then because I'd simply forgotten about it and didn't care.

In the last year or two, however, I've learned the actual story of the movie. A woman on her deathbed telling her children and (great) grandchildren about the greatest love of her life: not her husband, their (grand)father, the man who presumably loved and provided for her all his life. Oh no. Fuck that guy. Everything he did for her pales in comparison to some random guy she met on a boat and fucked a few times before it sank.

Fuck literally everything about that movie.

[–]tryingmybestatm 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

imagine thinking your wife loves you but she's posting shit like this online

[–]TopShelfPrivilege 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't even bother to read it after the hyphenated last name. It was fairly obvious how it was going to play out.

[–]YourPillsAintWorkin 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why it's called settling down. She knows it's a downgrade she's settling for.

[–]AldabruzzoNo busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 175 points176 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Ten years ago, I knew I was getting the ever loving shit fucked out of me for a short but intense year, but I ended it. He liked fucking me, but he was fucking two other girls at the same time and he wasn't going to commit. I needed to end it because I couldn't take him stomping on my heart and using me publicly anymore.

Now I am miserably married to a boring, predictable beta bux who I use, and have young children sired by another man. And yet I think of how backbreakingly my Chad fucked me and his huge cock stands up before me in my imagination. Being with him stretched me, uncovered me and left me naked: more wild, free, and physically active than I had ever been before. It matched the huge cock he had. I came, and came, and came again over his big dick while we were together. Now I'm back to the me I recognize - fat, tied down, and husband-loathing.

I know damn well I should have stayed with Chad. I don't talk to him but I cyberstalk his social media. I don't trust myself to see Chad, because I know I'll cheat on my husband with him if I see him again. I am not going to leave it be and I will be forever pining away for Chad.


I told you so. I TOLD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS SO.

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Upvoted 1,000 times! Thanks for peeling away the pretty, fancy words that couched the true ugly, animalistic lust behind them.

You Da Man!

[–]blablaluah 34 points35 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Rollo Tomassi's book opened me up to the concept of Alpha widows and now everywhere I look I see one with their beta bux hubbies.

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[–]asdf333azaSenior deluge-style poster 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But feminism said body count doesn't matter!

[–]Worried_Promotion570 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck, you hit that drive so far down the middle of the motherfuckin' fairway Tiger in his prime would go "Sheeeeeeet", helicopter his driver away and walk off the first tee.

Now just drop the mic and walk off the stage will you? .... I'd like to see you top this one but I don't think it's going to happen.

[–]AldabruzzoNo busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you sir.

Fortunately I am fluent in womanese.

[–]maseboogie 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This comment is a verbal Francis Ngannou-to-Alistair Overeem-uppercut. You knocked it smooth the hell out sir! To paraphrase The Notorious B.I.G: "She got that H-Town in her, she wants that OLLLD thing back!"

[–]AldabruzzoNo busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you sir.

Simple translation from womanese to English.

[–]jzdelonaintrospective wahmyns 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When someone asks what an Alpha Widow is this post is a perfect example.

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I told you so. I TOLD YOU MOTHERFUCKERS SO.

HuUrRrRe dUuUurRrrRe.

YoU mUsT hAvE cHoZe tHe wRoNg oNe

[–]bottomLobster 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, this is so good and sad at the same time.

[–]Aurelian1960 106 points107 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Never trust them. This is possibly the worst scenario for a man. Your just a place holder who is thought of always contemptuously next to Chad. Fuck these ho's.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 73 points74 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

"But you are just insecure in your masculinity".

Society wants to make you more convenient to women, so that you can complete her mating strategy when she turns 28 and has an epiphany. Resist the slave mind.

[–]Aurelian1960 51 points52 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Society is NEVER your friend.

[–]road_layarightfully adds circus music to life's soundtrack 45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Society" is just an euphemism for women. They don't even apply the phrase to mistreated boys.

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 96 points97 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The classic alpha widow. 10 minutes of alpha Trumps a lifetime with a beta. Best to avoid women with a past and date younger women with less baggage. And women wonder why men care about the past. Building a future with a girl that has a past is like building a house on quicksand.

[–]RedBlindCat -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I hope after reading this, you will consider evaluating the individual scenario.

Some women gets more baggage as they age Some women starts out with a mountain and are through relationships (not necessarily romantic relationship) able to let go on what they carry around.

I think it is important for everyone to experience dating and such, because you won't necessarily know how to tackle problems, have you not been into similar situations. Some people gain more experience than others, some gain it quicker than other and some doesn't learn a thing.

Just my thoughts, but I'm open to discussion :)

[–]CurriconsumerMagnanimous misogynist 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are 100% correct, but those exceptions are very rare and easily observed (meaning that if I encounter a high quality older woman I can tell almost instantly) (also Obviously not all young women are high quality). Women without baggage that are older are mostly married with kids to prince charming. So even if I meet this hypothetical woman, It makes little difference since she is already happily married.

[–]RedBlindCat 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yes, that's also true.

[–]IntroductionNew3421 89 points90 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Apparently she needs a man to be intelligent, beautiful, creative. Without him she is none of those.

[–]TheFreeloader 52 points53 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I have heard that a lot of women are like that. They don't really have much of an independent personality. They instead define themselves completely by the people they are around, especially their partner. That's why there are a lot of women sit and dream about the guy who will come and turn them into the person they really want to be.

[–]AurelianWayJr. Hamster Analyst 41 points42 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

They are conformists by their very nature. They need to be told what to think is right or wrong. They don't actually have a moral center. They are fair weather fans only supporting a cause or faction when it's popular or trendy.

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why they spread their legs for enemy soldiers in wars. You know, instead of taking up arms to fight.

[–]manfrom-nantucket 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Ask a woman which restaurant she wants to eat at and watch the response.

[–]SublimeZebra 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dorsia?

[–]TheFreeloader 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can be bitter about it if you like, but I don’t think it brings you much benefit. I say it’s better to try to turn it to your advantage.

With that kind of women it’s all about selling them a story about who they are and where they are going because of you. If you manage to do that well, they will be quite loyal to you, because so much of their personality is tied to the story of who they are with you.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I went to a speed dating event a few years ago

Didn’t get many mutual matches and one I did get (who was super cool and I really liked) agreed to go on a date then strung me a long for a week before revealing that they were actually seeing someone. She either moved really fast or was seeing someone when attending the event but it wasn’t serious enough yet to not “date other people”

Despite this I got a bit of a boost by finding out how little most women do. Granted I didn’t have a great deal on at the time mostly due to work but most of these women described what they did outside of work as shopping, hanging out with friends and family and going out drinking

My ex felt really put on the spot and embarrassed when a friend asked her what she did in her free time and her only answer was “care for her pets and go to the gym”. Which he thought was fine but she was mortified (I heard about it afterwards)

Granted - it isn’t really acceptable to give a similar answer as a guy but it still put things into an interesting context

[–]Hayekr 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t get many mutual matches and one I did get (who was super cool and I really liked) agreed to go on a date then strung me a long for a week before revealing that they were actually seeing someone. She either moved really fast or was seeing someone when attending the event but it wasn’t serious enough yet to not “date other people”

I'd say about a 70% chance it was the latter scenario. Don't leave out the chance she was actually in a committed relationship with a dude at the time but was dipping her toe in the dating pool to see if someone better was out there. Women are unbelievably sly when it comes to feeling out potential new mates while simultaneously being in a relationship.

While she may not have found you worthy enough to ditch the other guy, you dodged a huge bullet because odds are she would have done exact same thing to you a year or two from then when the scenario replayed itself. The other guy she was with is going to be a statistic soon if he isn't already. A dupe waiting to get his heart and/or wallet broken if he was dumb enough to sign a legally binding contract and wife her up.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I agree it is far more likely to be the latter scenario. She also went to the event with her friend seemingly as moral support as well. But did also seem genuinely interest in taking part as well

Although now that I really think back i think there was a bit of a weird issue trying to message her after finding out we were a match. Perhaps something about a number that didn't work. But I might be misremembering. I definitely got messaging her eventually as mentioned. And it didn't seem like a fake or a friend or something like that

But you are right - regardless of the scenario she was still being far too open in exploring her options within a relatively short period of a couple of weeks. I don't live in an enormous city like London or New York and I don't subscribe to this idea you read on line of loads of people continuously mullti-dating for weeks and months on end. Between work and commutes and personal down time I don't think many people have the time for it

Weirdly her friend (who I was not attracted to at all) gave me a "tick" even though she spend our entire slot banging on about herself and her interests (one of the few who had some). I pretty much didn't get a word in. I guess some women really love to hear themselves talk. She rejected (or rather didn't tick) my friend despite them having an actual two way conversation

[–]thejynxed 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems to me that friend wanted a listener as a potential dating partner rather than a conversationalist, which is why you got checked vs your friend. My wife is like that. She's just A-Ok if I let her incessantly babble, and I'm fine with that because I don't like to babble on my own part.

[–]InevitableOwl1Swipes with a dictionary in hand 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is low key the most telling point

I just finished listening to the latest HuMan video he talked about how women really hate other women and therefore themselves. And his view of their love for a man is more that they need to see a man’s love “for them” - in order to be validated and not hate herself

This case appears to align with that theory with the all important caveat - it must be a certain type of man to give her that love to provide the necessary validation

As with all things there are always exceptions - but it certainly appears to apply here

[–]Ulfberht75 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I also saw that video last night, and reading the comments here got me thinking about what he said in the video. Then I saw your post and smiled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gLEH4tz2S0

[–]manfrom-nantucket 26 points27 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women outsource their shit to their partners. "He never made me happy" - is a popular statement by women. Like somehow your partner is responsible for your happiness when in reality only you can make yourself happy.

[–]IntroductionNew3421 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a great point.

[–]manfrom-nantucket 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In all my years I have never heard those words come out of a mans mouth. Men don't expect their wives and gfs to make them happy or outsource the responsibility of their happiness to their partners. They don't demand that their gf's perform like a trained monkey for their entertainment.

[–]jayk00 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Omfg. Omfg. This is fkin underrated comment. Bruh?! Where are all the men lost? We need to prove our intelligence,beauty/handsomeness,creativity before we even see them. This kind of gender equality they want. Men should stop chasin bitches. The husband here either was fooled or was desperate.

[–]manfrom-nantucket 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men should stop chasing period. Have a backbone.

[–]workalt2020 65 points66 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Imagine being the husband and reading that shit (her names on it)

Everytime someone tries to laugh off the concept of alpha widows...lmfao.

[–]ThrowRA-4545 20 points21 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty sure it's just a write in column and the name is the author for 'advice' - surely?

[–]workalt2020 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea thats possible. Still though, the most most guys don't know how common this mentality is in modern women is crazy

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[–]moorekomUrban Hoe Guerrilla 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a line between compromise and disrespect. This is outright disrespect.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

how many people, men and women really get the best/ most beautiful significant other they ever met / wanted ?

I did, and she turned into a frigid bitch after a few years.

Hormone therapy for her helped, and taking the Red Pill helped me. Things looked up for several years. Lately though...

[–]HugeQock 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can you go more into this please? Your comments are a well of GOLD and have seriously helped me.

Have you considered TRT to help with your curernt woes ?

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The hormone therapy was and is on her end. My hormones are fine, so far. I'm open to TRT if I ever need it, but so far, so good.

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What's your point u/ReplyisFutile

[–]Joaquino7997 54 points55 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Now I am happily settled with a...husband with young children.

Her choice of words bother me. Genuinely happy married women say they're happily married. When she say she's happily settled, she probably means just that - she settled.

Will it forever hold me in its sway?

If she acts on these impulses and destroys her marriage on the count of wishful thinking, then shame of her - and any other person who does anything similar to this.

[–]Throwaway90618 25 points26 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She'll still come on top once the marriage is done. Kids, house will all be hers

[–]Impressive-Cricket-8absolutely adores added alliterative appeal and assonance 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Will it forever hold me in its sway?

That part also got to me. Life is whatever the fuck you do with it - if all you do is sit idly thinking about your ex, no wonder he's still getting your panties wet.

Not like most women (and some men) would understand that, but the moment you pick up something and commit to it - be it playing an instrument, gardening, drawing, a job, second job, a marriage - it will occupy your mind. Everything else will fade on the background, unless you commit to that other something too. But no, it must be because Chad's cock was magical and, while she tried to move on, it has a hold on her ovaries.

[–]ItsJustMeMaggieWahmyns 44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s used the word “settled” to describe her marriage more than once, I see.

[–]Goat-D-Ace 38 points39 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

How pathetic. She blames her partner for her being a loser.

[–]WeRAllOnThisBlessedDJr. Hamster Analyst 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women do not hold themselves accountable. That’s something that I took a long time to realize.

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Accountability is a tool of the patriarchy!!!

[–]meeritaGlobe-trotting mansplainer 33 points34 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I love this part:

Being with him transformed me, uncovered the best version of myself

I love when they say these things. Because feeling like a whore with Chad it's a good feeling, and if it is good then "that's the best version of me".

[–]WeRAllOnThisBlessedDJr. Hamster Analyst 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because deep down that’s what they want. They don’t want a man to mAkE LoVE to them. They want to be fucked hard. In this situation, the husband makes love to her, and she tries to convince herself that she’s satisfied. She might have made a few moans here and there, so husband thinks he took care of business. Then the memories of how Chad fucked her like a whore come popping back up, and she remembers what real sex was like.

[–]maseboogie 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Think about it, when you get in the bed, would you rather have somebody say 'oh make love to me?' or grab the back of your head and say FUCK the SHIT outta me!'"

- Eddie Murphy Raw

[–]heyyy-kiddo 29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I always screenshot stuff like this to remind myself what shit I can get myself into even though for years she seemed "nice".

It's like a Lovecraftian monster that has perfect human form.....you never know when it will rip it's form and drive you to pyre madness.

[–]SnuSnuClownWorldJr. Hamster Analyst 27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Oof, a solid 4.3 who fucked her life up because they wanted to be a 304.

Well the good news is she will divorce her husband in the next 4ish years? Maybe redpill the poor bastard if it doesnt kill him first. Then she will be like all the rest of these wallslammed strong independent wahmyn we see begging for a crumb of a relationship.

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[–]SnuSnuClownWorldJr. Hamster Analyst 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They cant outrun age. Just ask charlize theron.

They can get sex, not a relationship.

[–]BeholdTheHairMod[M] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This whole “One day she will pay!” thing I hear so much in the RP is a huge cope.

It depends how you look at it. You're right that women are rarely made to face direct consequences for their poor behavior. That doesn't mean they'll escape the natural consequences of poor decision making, as proven by all the inspins we see here.

Any thin woman will always have a hundred thirsty pussy betas to date and marry her.

Maybe try again without the Rule 1 violation.

[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. giga-shitlord. worst mod EVAR. 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's a good practice to distinguish your comment when you're enforcing a rule.

[–]BeholdTheHairMod 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. Thanks for the tip.

[–]Darkwalker787 24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"I love my current husband, but I'm not in love with him"

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hah! Classic line from women.

[–]KingJulianman1 23 points24 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women love all their exes i swear

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

That's why I don't believe their "He was abusive" stories. "He was abusive" just means that these hot men dumped them and didn't give them the relationshits they feel they deserved.

[–]KingJulianman1 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

not necessarily true a lot of times just like in this story women leave men. Abusive or not they still miss something about that person.

[–]qkmax 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish her husband would see this post and kick her stupid ungrateful ass to the curb! Does this bitch really think her fling of 10 yrs ago is something that this Chad even gives a second thought to! Is she that delusional ? This guy is probably breaking his back for her and the kids and he will never be enough for her!!sad!

[–]WeRAllOnThisBlessedDJr. Hamster Analyst 22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why we say a woman’s past matters. This is why we say that her past IS our business. Most men realize that they’re not the biggest alpha Chad in the world, so we know that if he gets to her before we do, this is what happens. She says that “10 years ago” she was with this guy, so I think it’s safe to assume she’s yet another woman who spent her 20s partying and riding dick, and now that she’s in her 30s she realized the clock is ticking so it’s time to settle down.

As far as her Instagram followers are concerned, she’s happily married to the greatest man in the world. But when she’s out having mimosas with the girls, the truth comes out. She misses Chad. She was the best version of herself when he was around, and nobody can fuck her like he did. She damn sure isn’t thinking about her husband when she’s falling asleep at night or when she’s running that vibrator into herself. Husband gets twice a month sex but Chad got porn star level fucking any time he wanted.

Men need to have their standards and stick to them. Reject women with high body counts. If she starts crying that her past is her business and besides she’s with you now, stand firm. One way or another women need to learn that men aren’t going to wait around on the back burner until she’s ready to settle down.

[–]ChrisPTY507 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

LOL. You can bring them the sun and the moon and it will still not be enough.

Once again, Hypergamy show us her true colors….

She settled with the classic beta provider and these are the results

[–]fuzzy_brbTo the streets does she belong 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jeff besoz, bill gates and Elon musk come to mind.

It’s mind boggling how much money those 3 have and still it wasn’t enough lol

[–]ChrisPTY507 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is NEVER enough for women, you can even be the top 1% and she will still find ways to cheat of you or wish she was still dating with Chad Thundercock. It’s crazy!

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

LOL. You can bring them the sun and the moon and it will still not be enough.

Correct. Even if her husband was an alpha Chad. He will become beta in her eyes after a while.

[–]Mundane_Worldliness7Sr. Hamster Analyst 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here you see the difference between being a Chad and being a JAG (just a guy). For all we know, she spent a night with a bro in Daytona, he could’ve been so drunk, that he’d barely even remember her name if he saw her.

[–]asdf333azaSenior deluge-style poster 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Females: why should my body count matter. body counts are just a way for men to shame women. who I slept with in the past doesn't matter

Also females: I'm still in love with a guy I had sex with ten years ago. My husband is just a good provider, the Chad from 10 years ago has my heart forever!

Low mileage females have less of a chance of this crap. High mileage females will always be comparing you to their numerous past encounters. Always. Dude married her and gave her children and she is stuck on sexual encounter # 34 from 10 years ago.

[–]Flashy_Glove6208 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

'settled' is the key word.

She was with Chad only a year.

It's 10 years after. Could the guy see red flags? It depends on her age.

If she jumped straight into a relationship with her husband it's hard

If she waited, rode the CC, and locked down her husband later then he had a chance to avoid LTR with a leftover woman.

Again, it crucial to thoroughly vet her past.

[–]deckran 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's over i think, she's a ticking time bomb. It won't be long before she will look to get that excitement for Chad back. It will start small, finding faults in her husband, maybe he works too much, not enough attention etc. so she can rationalize her cheating on him in her mind. That's why they say you don't save these kind of women from their pasts. They are broken and they don't want to be saved. They like the misery. Your kindness will come across as weakness and end up backfiring most of the times.

[–]jayk00 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why I don't want to marry. Settling and marrying are both different concept. Settling is compromising and marrying is something done by choice. In most cases settlement is the word they prefer to say. The current husband is not a true choice,he's just a bank of money,love,care,time for which she settled. IMO this situation is an utter disrespect for the current husband. If he's longing for another woman ,then its not right either.

Let's go deep into the situation. She is afraid that she might hurt her husband. Assume somehow we remove judgments ,anger,jealousy and respect from the husband's mind. So now he won't be hurt anymore ,no matter what she does. With such freedom she will no doubt will fuck the chad. This is the true nature. All the commitments, all the vows,marriages are just false or a compromisation. I would say therefore pay some cheap whore for sex,have casual sex, but don't marry unless you see true love ,attraction for yourself in her. Adopt children or have surrogate babies(if you can). Let them have what they want. Being in a false relationship is worse than being alone.

This is in general the situation of most women. They all want to marry Brad Pitt but he's one and married and won't give a fuck. So they settled for "the money-bank husband" here. They won't say but they literally have ranked men according to physics and wealth, in their minds. Since this objectification is just in their minds , the men are always accused of objectifying women. I was discussing this with female friends. They say look how we are in relationship with a fat men? Short men? I asked why do you need to say this. And would you have even looked at your current partners if you have the power to date Brad Pitts?

[–]FormerBTfan 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the perfect easy to read and understand "Alpha Widow Story" Should be required reading for all young western men from 15-20 years old.

Thanks OP

[–]asdf333azaSenior deluge-style poster 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"my past doesn't matter", said the modern day women while secretly being in love with a guy from 10 years ago and TRICKING the current guy into marrying and supporting her while her heart belongs to another.

[–]MrHupfDohle 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor husband :/

[–]xRuneRocker 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

5 minutes of alpha trumps 5 years of beta

[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™[M] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

5 minutes of alpha trumps 5 years of beta

Does it really?

  1. Had she been with the alpha, her life would be a turbulent mess. Much worse than now, with many more reasons to complain.

  2. If her alpha was a responsible man, he too would become beta in her eyes.

Bottom line: bitches bitch. From the moment they're bitched out of their bitch's bitch until the moment they're hitched to the ditch - bitches will forever bitch.

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[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVPJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Titanic is the prime example.

[–]kidruhilrefused to play 2nd fiddle to saint overdose 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's only a matter of time. This is why smart men screen out all but young women without a slutty past.

[–]AldabruzzoNo busted Pillsbury biscuit cans 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The OP was written to an advice columnist named Eleanor Gordon-Smith. Here is the "advice" she gave back to her love-and pussy- weary correspondent. Just look at this bullshit:


You know those lyrics by the Whitlams: “There’s no aphrodisiac like loneliness”? I think there’s no aphrodisiac like memory.

Nostalgia gilds things. It paints old moments with a flush of promise. If we’re not careful it can lead us to perpetual distraction; keep us looking away from the present and back at something that seems to grow more beautiful the more it recedes into the past.

You describe something pretty magical in this prior relationship. The love of your life; the best version of yourself you can remember being. But equally, as you note, it’s very hard to tell when that feeling is a mirage. So often when we daydream of a past – whether it’s a relationship or a place or just youth – it’s not the thing we’re longing for, but the feelings we had at the time: the sense that things were crackling and the future was open.

That’s why I don’t think the questions here are quite the ones you’re asking. This is not about whether you threw away someone really important, or whether to let this past relationship be. Instead I think the question is how you can find the feelings you long for in your present life. How can you rediscover that sense of creativity, passion, confidence, inside the reality you now inhabit?

After all, from your husband’s point of view, the fact you don’t speak to your past love isn’t totally comforting if his memory still has this passionate grip on your heart. No one wants to play the stable reality to the intoxicating fantasy; no one wants to be the one that didn’t get away. If you want to stay married – and it sounds like you do – I think it’s important not to measure your life together by comparing it to something else.

It’s important to meet it and measure it on its own terms; to find a way to thrill in what you have as much as in what could have been. You describe your marriage as stable and loving; try not to erode it with comparisons.

One key might be to realise that the feelings your past love gave you couldn’t have been manufactured by him alone. It takes two to make a dynamic – if you felt bold and invigorated with him, it’s because you have it within you to be that way.

You now know that you can face up to big obstacles in your life, that you can see the magic in yourself and those around you. Different people bring different traits out of us, but we don’t need to rely on others for that alchemy. Part of that dynamic was you; and you’re with you wherever you are.

You write that you ended this relationship and married your husband for reasons you still stand by. It’s an annoying feature of choices that making one always means declining another, so we can always wonder how things might have been. But imagining alternatives can keep us from building realities – if you can focus on bringing yourself the feelings this other man brought out of you, you might find he starts to shrink in your mind.

That would free you up to love the reality in front of you more wholeheartedly, and in the end that’s the way out of all nostalgia: to cherish what we have with the same passion we give to fantasies of what we’ve lost.


That's a lot of words to say "Cool story, chick. Let your past go and try to find some good in what you have now by fucking your husband the way you fucked Chad."

Here's my advice: You shouldn't have fucked Chad. Having fucked him, you should have stayed with him and taken whatever he was willing to give you. But now that you can't do that, and you've gone ahead and married a man you are not and never were sexually attracted to, you need to get therapy. You need to fuck your husband how you fucked your Chad. Fucking find a way to do it. I don't give a fuck how you feel about it. You find a way. Or, divorce him and walk away with nothing but the clothes on your back, get a job, move out, and start paying child support. I strongly suggest you do the latter. Just divorce him and give him a chance to find someone who actually wants to be with him.

[–]SirLoose12 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The husband probably doesn't realize this, but if she's not willing to stay thin for him, she is't attracted to him and doesn't think he has better options.

She's working like she just doesn't care if she loses her job.

[–]DeplorableRay 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The is what Titanic was really about.

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That was such a vomit-inducing movie, especially that stupid song by that hag French woman! 🤢🤮

[–]DeplorableRay 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I bet you have a lot of opinions.

[–]josh9x 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s why the Bible warns against premarital sex and then promiscuity. It’s almost as if God and the writers of the Bible knew what they were saying was important…

[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Alpha widowed for life

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"BRIDE, n. A woman with a fine prospect of happiness behind her."

Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

[–]Bob_and_Virginiabeware of Shawskank Redemption 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Great post! I like running into quotes from back then. See, men always knew (the truth about women). It's just that modern society shames current men into "believing" women's narratives.

[–]lorum_ipsum_dolorJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, Ambrose Bierce really had his finger on the pulse of human nature and it wasn't pretty.

[–]SirLoose12 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She needs to leave her husband and see what's on Floor 6 of the Husband Store.

[–]AngryLurkerDude 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Jesus. If the poor husband read that he'd feel sick.

Ignorance is bliss.

[–]Outside-Primary3302 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unhappiness is the nature of women

[–]Arnold_Incelinator 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why no hymen no diamond

[–]LordFlakkko 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How can one make sure their woman isnt like this?

[–]Mild_Heresy 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

AWALT.

[–]GaiinahatJr. Hamster Analyst 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"I'm happily settled..."

[–]1st10Amendments 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She better watch where she posts that stuff, or she might find her stable “good enough for now” husband mentally checking out of the relationship and hanging in just long enough to see the final young one out of the home. And then he’ll bolt.

[–]NoonTimeHoopsMVPJr. Hamster Analyst 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She brings shame to the name Eleanor!

[–]Uniqueiamjustjules 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Once you get that blood in your mouth, it's hard to resist going back for more.

[–]juanwonone1 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

slut

[–]ForsakeHope-BeStill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

alpHa wiDow tag 🤣🤣🤣

[–]Plazmatron44 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Classic alpha widow.

[–]Harry_TeakHas a trained eye for the kilodick stare. 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The ass is always greener on the other side of the fence especially when the fence is viewed from the distance of a decade.

[–]mimiczxHamster Soul Crusher 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Happily settled"... Nuff said... 🙄

[–]Wowthatshot69 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats why i cant trust women anymore. Its impossible to find one who didnt had one of these guys in her life (and even if they didnt, they will dream with them)

[–]ransuru 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

How is the husband not divorcing her after such a public disrespecting post ?

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[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Removed for rule one.

Please read the sidebar u/BigAggravating1299

[–]BigAggravating1299 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I apologize mod, men should make there own decision on marriage, I wasn't shaming.

[–]lordfappington69probation until further notice. Any infraction = permaban. 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s always sunnier on the other side. When you’re in relationships you wana be single again and vice versa.

[–]Atlas-K 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is my worst nightmare. This is why I am never going to get married. And you can't help but imagine a lot of women go through the same thing.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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