How the carousel destroys a womans' ability to use sex as a commitment bargaining chip. The jerks got to play for free, now the good man has to wait due to the extra caution and paranoia from being pumped and dumped.

goodmansaysfuckyou · 2020-10-22T19:37:58+00:00

but I feel like once he sees that I'm a serious woman with long term intentions and once he gets in my pants...BOOM the jig is up. No more mr. nice guy...I know the calls will lessen, then effort will lessen, his interest will probably lessen

At least she subconsciously knows that she is a low value woman and has nothing to offer but some pussy. She knows that once the novelty of her twat falls below the balance of her annoying personality then BOOM she's history, but she still acts like she is a super duper queen bee mega super model.

Delusions...thy name is woman.

Ibeprasin · 2020-10-22T19:21:11+00:00

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InevitableOwl1 · 2020-10-22T20:04:23+00:00

Some of those highlighted lines are awful. She basically knows he is "High Value" (per FDS language). It is in the intro - second sentence - established financially, respectful and attentive. Add in the fact that she genuinely seems to think that he is enough of a catch that his ex wants to fight for him back. So out of her league.

She goes on to fret about how he might only want her for sex. So inherently she knows he is out of her league. But then the hamster wheel tries to spin the reality into reverse.

And of course the second set of highlighting is just gross. Read independently the first line is maybe only slightly iffy (because by "Hold out" she could just mean more than 2 or 3 dates). But when combined with the next part of not meeting a good man in a while you can put it together to arrive at having lots of short term relatively casual things with "bad boys".

The polyamory thing was left field and no context provided. Almost makes me think it was made up. And you know that is the line that the crone chorus in the comment section will focus on when the screech that he is a LVM. Do they really think that guys use the gambit of "I am interested in polyamory" to get into a woman's pants? Is she serious? Because nothing makes a woman wetter than telling her to her face "you are alright but not enough so I'd quite like to fuck at least one other person as well. That cool?". Do these FDS adherents really have such a low opinion of both men and women?

YouSaidChicken · 2020-10-22T20:15:03+00:00

This is today’s woman.

The liar.

Demands for you and not for her.

Hvm =rich; which is all this loser wants. The man’s money while she offers nothing.

“Now that I’ve had my fun and made those gang bang videos, now I’m relationship material.”

Leave her in the side of the road where you found her. Absolutely nothing to commit to, even though commitment only helps women. It’s only about getting all that money.

SwinginPastMyKnees_ · 2020-10-22T20:47:14+00:00

It always baffles me that they use sex to try to get a Chad to commit but never consider using sex to get a non-Chad to commit. They do the opposite, in fact. They withhold sex like a carrot to see if the guy will commit without sex. Then it's shocked pikachu face when the ex shows up in her lingerie and steals the guy for good.

jihocech · 2020-10-22T20:39:54+00:00

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AntoniusAmbrosium · 2020-10-22T21:41:16+00:00

This is one of my absolute pet peeves with women: holding out when they have a history of giving it up quickly.

If a woman has a history of waiting, cool. But if she decides because I don’t treat her like her shit so she’s going to give her 🐱 a higher value for me than other guys, I won’t take that.

Instant dismissal.

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2020-10-22T21:27:45+00:00

"Normally I don't hold out on sex, but I really want this guy, so I will" - yeah, makes perfect sense /s 🙄

"I want to eventually get married after I get a career" - we'll see you right back here on this very sub in a few years!

LotBuilder · 2020-10-22T21:47:00+00:00

I’ve mentioned on here before I am a sugar daddy and I don’t hide it. You should see the look on a woman my ages face when I say I don’t jump through hoops to get laid because I can bang a college cheerleader weekly for a $199/month VW Jetta lease and a $60/mo iphone. At first they are disgusted and then it sets in that their sexual power is nil.

PrestigiousAct2 · 2020-10-22T20:59:44+00:00

"I'm 23 but i want something monogamous and faithful"

Translation: i want a provider that will ignore how damage i am, put me on a pedestal, marry me and pay all of my school debt. After that i can go back riding the CC.

Edit: Forget the marry me part.

InevitableOwl1 · 2020-10-22T22:55:38+00:00

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shrinkshooter · 2020-10-22T23:01:56+00:00

First: I'd like to point out that the majority of the time, a woman holding out on sex is because she wants to secure commitment. She doesn't wish to seem slutty by being an easy lay, because if she does that, she knows at least subconsciously that the man will not see her as relationship material. The paranoia about getting pumped and dumped once the guy scores may be legit, or it may be a hamster rationalization for the aforementioned strategy. Could be either, could be both.

Second: I said a couple months ago that "LVM" and "HVM" are terms that are absolute jokes because they are defined by how the woman feels. Not because the concepts are stupid, the concepts are fine; they are simply not applied rigorously, definitively, and consistently. Redpill stuff has nomenclature and general definitions for things like alpha, beta, dual mating, etc. But just look at the last highlight. Not only is she asking whether this man is high value, she defines any man as being low value if he "says anything he wants to get in my pants." That isn't a set definition, a man can be high or low value depending entirely on how she feels about him or his actions rather than whether the man actually falls under a set category. It's a fucking joke, this isn't how you use clinical words for things. It's exactly the same thing as calling someone a sexist or racist solely because you dislike them and not because they've actually done anything sexist or racist.

JemimahWaffles · 2020-10-22T22:11:27+00:00

FDS is one of the worse cesspools on the internet. and that's SAYING something

ZarBandit · 2020-10-22T22:31:03+00:00

A lot of words to conceal the truth that he makes her purse tingle and [therefore] not her pussy. If he was 'hawt' she would have fucked him right away.

She doesn't want to fuck him because she wants to rape him.

moorekom · 2020-10-22T21:05:52+00:00

We all know she doesn't want a "monogamous" thing. Her meaning of monogamous, deep down, is being number 1 in Chad's harem.

2020-10-22T21:16:53+00:00

Real talk, no deep analysis here. If a girl wants to "hold off" on sex, then any non-simp guy is going to go find it elsewhere if he doesn't get it when he wants it. Personally I've always stuck around longer for the girls who put out. If you're giving me sex, why would I need to look elsewhere? If you're not giving me sex, I'm going to lose interest real fast.

The_Mole_Dizzle · 2020-10-22T21:02:56+00:00

I actually think this is a lie

I think women's egos are blown up so huge they really still think they deserve the best, the paranoia lie, is exactly that, a smokescreen to make you not want to try

I wasn't going to try anyways, but for people who really want that

rpool179 · 2020-10-23T01:57:30+00:00

She's only 23 but sounds like she has the sexual history of a 30+ yo

RxCubed · 2020-10-23T04:09:43+00:00

Sex is a catch 22 for women.

They have sex with you quick, you know they are easy and have slept with a lot of men, so you go elsewhere.

They make you wait, you know they are easy and have slept with a lot of men, but now they refuse to for you, so you go elsewhere.

Until women stop whoring it up en masse, their marriage prospects are going to be slim. It is just the the times we live in.

Most guys with any sense are just going to make himself financial secure, take great care of himself, age like wine, and bang younger hotties. The only way to win now is to just not play.

sleepyweaselisawake · 2020-10-22T22:29:00+00:00

An LVF who admits she only has sex to offer wants advice on how to lockdown an HVM knowing that she's so bad at fucking guys pack their shit the next day and ghost.

2020-10-23T02:11:43+00:00

Her behaviour would have been acceptable (in the sense that in a perfect world, women would make all men wait until marriage for sex), were it not for the fact that 1.) She evidently has been giving it up for low value men, and therefore 2.) she's treating high and low value men differently in terms of whether or not she gives them sex. I mean it all just backs up AF-BB, and as OP points out, it's compounded by her trauma from the badbois, so her doing it previously with fuckbois is a cost onto the goodguys.

0mrcynic0 · 2020-10-23T02:17:23+00:00

So her only offering is her purse? I'll pass. She values her "virginity" and monogamy yet her heart has been "broken" many times. Talk about double-standards.

Give it a few more years and she'll end up being bitter & complain on reddit why high-value men won't give her the attention.

manbro7 · 2020-10-23T00:14:20+00:00

Gonna have a lot of fun material if comments are included too. They shame and shit talk other people for going on simple cheap "dates" that focus on connections, but a day later they ask that the guy is able to enjoy the simple things in life that are like walk "dates" and the like. They're extremely delusional

Bennyjig · 2020-10-23T03:48:33+00:00

An important point to notice is how she believes once he has sex with her there will be less calls and shorter contact... yes. That’s called being in a relationship longer than 3 months. My wife and I have been together 7 years. I have not had these 3-4 hour phone conversations in years. She is an adult, she knows how I feel about her by virtue of being a human being with an ability to think. Do these girls (and I won’t say women, because they aren’t) not realize that you won’t have those googly eyes and ridiculously long phone conversations after a very short period of time? Which by the way doesn’t mean you don’t still love them most of all

peguy2000 · 2020-10-22T23:09:23+00:00

I hope that guy doesnt settle down with that LVW

InevitableOwl1 · 2020-10-23T03:20:21+00:00

How do I know if he’s a HVM?

You don’t because you have terrible judgment and instead rely on your friends for validation of his worth (who have equally terrible judgment). Of course, if your friends are jealous they may lie to you or sabotage your relationship, that’s the risk you take when you don’t think for yourself.

MishMiassh · 2020-10-23T04:27:25+00:00

"I want him to be high value, but I want him to need sex like he's low value."

Maybe she should rework her female strategy into providing value to attract high value males.
Ladies, if all you have to offer is a hole, men will drop you once you realize you can just provide a hole.
All women can provide a hole, that doesn't make you special, and certainly not a reason to stay. 😂

NovaSociete · 2020-10-23T06:11:48+00:00

Why would you invest your time, energy and love to such an obvious slut?

Stahlboden · 2020-10-23T07:23:27+00:00

Ditch him! He's filthy LVM not worthy to kiss the dust you've walked upon! Never settle! You go Queennnnnnnnnnn

2020-10-23T08:50:31+00:00

More like

"I do what's right and go with my ~~heart~~ MUH VAGINA"

Overkillengine · 2020-10-23T09:35:27+00:00

Female sexuality is a great bargaining chip for getting sex from top tier men, but nothing else.

Maybe she should have developed more bargaining chips instead of just having the one that can't be relied on to buy what she wants?

Maybe she should also purchase from men that aren't so inundated with identical offers that they do not see her as anything special?

RunawayGrain · 2020-10-23T11:41:39+00:00

The jerks got to play for free, and the other guys no longer want to pay to play.

Buchwild · 2020-10-23T12:34:08+00:00

I'm kinda curious to see the delusional comments on this one, tales from FDS

Svartanatten · 2020-10-25T02:25:30+00:00

How women manages to convince themselves that a man will be flattered that a slut wont sleep with him and that her sudden self control isn't at all because she doesn't find him attractive but the total opposite because their past inability to resist lust was cuz the other men weren't good enough...

There is no greater sign of female love then being the first man she can control her lust for and find the will to wait for sex with. Definitely the best sign that they find you especially attractive...

2020-10-23T00:13:22+00:00

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IT WASN'T MY FAULT, YOU PATRIARCHAL SHITLORD!"