I am not fond of hearing the truth, so I will call it ridiculous! Women being too picky past 30 is just us knowing what we want!

loneliness-inc · 2021-07-15T15:12:17+00:00

Well well well.... what have we here....

Another bitch with impossible standards.

Who can't understand why virginity matters for women, but not for men. (Hint, it isn't only because she's more likely to cheat).

Oh well. Too bad, so sad.

And just in case your white knight instinct is acting up today - no, feminism didn't brainwash your precious wymyns.

Edited to add a post by u/moorekom - The maturity myth.

Cheers!

yellomachine · 2021-07-15T02:28:04+00:00

What a jerk!! I asked for the truth and he gave me facts! I want a second opinion.

Dunkman83 · 2021-07-15T03:14:15+00:00

imagine having the golden ticket for over a decade.

then when u finally get tired of playing the "game" you decided to finally cash in this golden ticket, only to find out its expired.

yea id be kinda upset about that too

houseoftolstoy · 2021-07-15T02:13:32+00:00

This woman does not like hearing that men prefer women in their 20s due to "shallow and superficial" traits, as well as the fact that men want women with less sexual partners and baggage. Yes, men do prefer women who are younger because of their youth and beauty being the greatest at that age along with the other two reasons. Even though she "calls BS," she really cannot rebut what her friend said, so she is left talking about how women older than 30 are more mature and know what they want, as she was doing before.

The issue with this premise is that there is the assumption that age will always bring maturity and wisdom. It makes sense to insist that age brings these traits when you are a woman who is past the wall, because they find out that they cannot compete with younger women in looks. So they attempt to sell themselves as having grown and having become a better person. Either the men find that these aspects are not really as important as having youth and beauty, or they themselves are calling BS that such women have really changed more than just their looks.

gentle_lemon · 2021-07-15T02:28:18+00:00

Translation: women wait at the finish line for the winners; men seek youth and beauty.

Right_Hand_Of_Kurze · 2021-07-15T03:30:03+00:00

Dated a girl when I was in my mid 30s that was in her early 30s..big mistake. My base salary was significantly more than hers and I could earn more with overtime even though she has degrees and I never finished college. Wanted me to go back to school so I could level up and get a better job after I retired at 48. Her job didnt have a retirement program. Was quizing me on what I would do after I retired as in what work I would do...and was not happy at all that my answer was "none if I can help it." Seemed angry at the concept that I was in a position to retire very comfortably and have free time and be financially well off...where she would "have to keep working til 60 something". Ego and competition come into play with older women. Their jobs and ego come first 90% of the time where a younger girl just wants your time and affection. When I was in my mid 20s it was very easy to date a woman 5 or 7 years older...now I realize that is because no one else can be bothered with their insanity.

Autisticus · 2021-07-15T02:51:39+00:00

Mm mm mm mm this article is absolute chef-kiss

As for sexual partners, why should this even matter? Most men are not asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, so I find it ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her faithfulness to her current relationship.

She's SO defensive! The lads around waatgm frequently point out the value difference between a pair of blown out shoes from the bowling alley and a fresh pair right off the shelf. To say NOTHING of her ability to pairbond. I love how this article is just SO full of cope and seethe.

Anyway, I guess the man friend in this article could have saved the two of them some time and just said 'Women only date up, and they're pricing themselves out of the market since they will only settle for the top 10-20% of men.'

And at the very end of the article:

Racquel specializes in email marketing, Racquel has helped her clients to generate 5-figures with her proven strategies.

Which is cool, congrats to her. So where does that leave her dating prospects? I have a suspicion she isn't going to be dating any mechanics or waiters.

Corn_in_your_pussy · 2021-07-15T04:10:32+00:00

In this article: man tells woman the truth, woman can't handle it and takes a dose of medical-grade Copium™

As an aside, notice how she framed her standards as perfectly reasonable and his as "superficial"?

HLFML · 2021-07-15T02:31:27+00:00

TL;DR - women over 30 have the experience and maturity to know what they value in a potential partner. Men over 50 don’t.

RealMcGonzo · 2021-07-15T02:48:01+00:00

His view is that no 30-something man wants to get married and raise a family because marriage is too risky and kids are expensive.

No shit. Lets say "Racquel" is 35. She meets the Man of her Dreams who is 39. They date for a year, get engaged for a year and marry at 37/41. A year later they start trying to build a family and she gets knocked up after some fertility treatments another year after that when they are 39/43. First kid is born 40/44. Kid turns 16 and they are 56/60. That's way too fucking old to raise kids.

plainnsimpleforever · 2021-07-15T02:43:29+00:00

So a single 30ish woman calls BS on the notion that 30ish women will remain single. Can't write this stuff better.

TheSigilStone · 2021-07-15T02:42:43+00:00

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. It's a shame that women choose to dismiss criticism.

Cristoff13 · 2021-07-15T04:06:58+00:00

Nevermind the fact that everything that he listed was all superficial and shallow. As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life. In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer. Gravity has not yet taken its toll on me.

Does she actually believe this? Probably. She is delusional. She is older and heavier and thinks this makes her more attractive? She must understand men are very good at correctly estimating a woman's age, and it is youth they are primarily attracted to. This is biology.

She should accept she is less attractive and has less bargaining power and adjust to it. Instead she wishes to believe she is more attractive in every way than 10 years ago. Pure self delusion.

slipkid223 · 2021-07-15T04:18:18+00:00

"They have no time for games, and as such, they want a man that is ready to settle down and raise a family together."

I rode the cock carousel in my 20s and rejected all the good guys for Chads. Now that my body count is triple digits I need a guy who is at least 6 feet tall, has 6 packs abs, makes six figures and wants to settle down with used up ass.

Stay away from women 30-41, they still think they have a chance at winning the lottery.

funny_like_how · 2021-07-15T03:57:08+00:00

In the end she disagrees with everything he says yet she is still single in her 30s with no suitors lined up. Shocking.

SelectAirline · 2021-07-15T04:55:55+00:00

Solipsism at its finest.

She's not really disputing his answer on a logical basis. She's saying that his answer can't be right because it makes her feel bad, and anything that makes her feel bad is wrong by definition.

Best advice for her is to stop asking questions when she doesn't really want the answer.

TDG0922 · 2021-07-15T03:14:00+00:00

A fair few years ago, I was dating a 25 year old and a 32 year old. The 32 year was a PITA whereas the 25 year old was fun and carefree. I went on to make the 25 year old my gf.

imapotato99 · 2021-07-15T03:45:56+00:00

How many contradictions can this woman spill in one article? He's right and stayed consistent in every single point Loved how she dodged her high D count as well

alljunks · 2021-07-15T03:52:52+00:00

Women can’t form a lasting relationship after being smothered in opportunities for over a decade and their response is to complain about men who aren’t interested in giving them their 500th shot to get it right.

Reminds me of all of the people talking about how easy dating was in their 20s. If they’re still on the market in their 30s, then what was actually easy for them to do? It certainly wasn’t whatever they’re trying to do now

anon_likes_tendies · 2021-07-15T03:05:24+00:00

Long story short:

Woman who wrote this article: “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREE!”

_Nequis_ · 2021-07-15T02:55:42+00:00

Wrap up of the "article": It's not being annoying and demanding well beyond reason, it's ExpErIenCe! You are a meanie and I call BS!!!

DavidNipondeCarlos · 2021-07-15T05:28:19+00:00

My own mother always says you men get better looking with age while women don’t. She married at 19 and has never said a word about my much younger wife besides she’s nice and pretty.

Specialist_4Life · 2021-07-15T03:50:14+00:00

I’m sure none of this actually happened and if it did, by some slim chance happen, I’d bet those well thought out statements were “fuck you” and “you’re an asshole”.

Bing_Bang_Bam · 2021-07-15T06:46:06+00:00

"Most men are not asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, so I find it ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her faithfulness to her current relationship."

Actually it's the biggest indicator of relationship success is how many previous partners a woman has had, statistically speaking.

Alturius · 2021-07-15T06:53:08+00:00

This woman tries to play down his observations by referring to them as "superficial and shallow", yet fails to offer evidence to counter his claims. Instead the best she can do is to use 'put down' tactics, and appeal to her own personal experiences, which are anecdotal at best. One only has to look at the average dating profiles of women and see the shopping list of requirements expected of men, as proof. Now who is being "superficial and shallow".

Llawgoch25 · 2021-07-15T08:05:42+00:00

Mid 50's and "He currently lives with his 20-something-year-old girlfriend".........Fucking King, and I bet he dumps her when she turns 30

Blogginginvicecity · 2021-07-15T08:23:16+00:00

women are picky and want apex males.

"we just want an equal who are willing to settle down and we don't want to make the same mistakes as in our 20s." How the heck is demanding the cream of the crop just getting her equals? What does a man being tall, dark, and handsome, having a prestigious white collar career, and having lots of disposable income relate to these men being her equal and being ready to settle with her?

Men are not asked the number of partners they have slept with, so a woman's shouldn't matter.

Bcuz chicks usually don't take issue with it. Imma tell her she can't judge me on my dick size because I don't judge her on her dick size. cue finger snapping in a z formation.

Oh wait, I do judge her on her dick size, my bad.

As such, they went with the younger woman that they could guide and mold into their desired partner.

My Final Thoughts I call BS.

LOL girl you call denial. I much enjoy a lady that isn't figuratively flipping me off because she's haunted by her past relationships.

For me what he wants and desires in a woman shouldn’t be projected as flaws of the women that he’s doesn’t like.

He's explaining why high value guys generally don't want to date 30+ vs 20s. *Of course he's going to state negatives of 30+ to explain why he likes the 20+. WHAT ELSE IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO!?!?!?

You like what you like, and we want what we want, and that’s perfectly fine. That’s what makes us unique. Trying to put down an older woman to justify dating a woman half your age is unacceptable. And this, in my opinion, is precisely what he’s doing.

HE'S EXPLAINING TO YOU WHY CHICKS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING A HARD TIME. HE'S GIVING YOU INSIGHTS. HE'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY TRYING TO "JUSTIFY" his girlfriend. He's explaining why he makes a choice given options. You're projecting an insecure need to justify one's desires. You couldn't justify them earlier in this article! All I heard from you was "I need apex male because I need an equal who wants to settle down." He and men like him have a CHOICE he is trying to help you understand. You have a fantasy and an AMBITION that you feel compelled to justify. He has a choice of worthy partners while you can't find someone worthy. I think you say it's "unacceptable" that he has an opinion as a man with options because you're stewing over the fact that your opinions give you no options.

We each have to live with our choices. Having a long wish list might leave a woman single, but compromising on one’s desires can lead her into an unsatisfactory relationship that she grows to resent.

So he needs to be apex male or you will resent him? Aren't you holding out for the apex male as you notes earlier in the article?

As a 30-something woman, I am single and okay with it. Sure, I would love to find my perfect partner, but for now, I am working on me, loving me, building my business, creating a better version of me so that when I find my Mr. Right, I am the best version of myself.

What is the best version of yourself? Also, are you actively meeting and getting to know more people, or hoping Mr. Right will just pop up?

His words and assessments do not daunt me because I know that there’s someone out there for me. And if not, I’m okay with it because my life is more than merely waiting for a soulmate.

I'm confused what being an apex male has to do with a guy being your soulmate.

MastermindX · 2021-07-15T06:53:43+00:00

As a 30-something woman, I am single

This sentence automatically should make anyone disregard all she has to say about the topic.

uberduger · 2021-07-15T08:16:23+00:00

As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life. In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer. Gravity has not yet taken its toll on me.

The delusion is very, very strong.

You can tell yourself you're hotter over 30 than previously and how you defy gravity, and your friends might have reinforced your belief, but it's almost certainly not true.

Plus, if her ass is better over 30 than before, that just suggests that in her 20s, she didn't have to try, but as the dating pool dried up, she suddenly had to start doing some exercise to try and boost her desirability. You not trying in your 20s because men were throwing themselves at you doesn't make you more appealing now. It just shows you that didn't bother putting in the effort when you were playing on easy mode.

It'd be like if I won the lottery as a 20 year old, spent all the money and had none left, so at 30 I had to get a job and then going "I'm more eligible now because I am earning far more money than I was in my 20s".

kyledontcare · 2021-07-15T03:33:47+00:00

Positively golden

Bob_and_Virginia · 2021-07-15T07:34:59+00:00

I hate the internet. Entirely too many articles written by amateur nobodies such as this "Raquel" No-Last-Name. Unlike real publications, there are no editors to proofread and laugh at their ridiculousness.

Llawgoch25 · 2021-07-15T08:10:29+00:00

Christ, this "Nevermind the fact that everything that he listed was all superficial and shallow" So "fit, tall and rich" are indicative of searching for something deep and meaningful? The level of fucking delusion, the massive amount of cognitive dissonance on display here is staggering

Me_The_Misanthrope · 2021-07-15T10:48:17+00:00

Women in their 30s want the men with the top-paying jobs, big salary, flashy cars, own apartment, etc.

Those men want women in their 20s.

Bluecherrysoft · 2021-07-15T21:10:02+00:00

Women are single because they want a man that has all the 150 best traits they found in over 1200 different men that all were allowed to enter international space with their juicy space rockets 💦

TheApricotCavalier · 2021-07-15T05:37:13+00:00

Cities are breeding grounds for degeneracy; the both of them

panzer22222 · 2021-07-15T09:52:43+00:00

As a 30-something woman, I am single

The unstated message here is 'why doesnt this guy WANT ME..wtf is wrong with him...wasting his time with a 20s woman'.

We often, he said, ignored the drivers, the carpenters, the mechanics, and the plumbers.

In my state these guys easily pull +$200k working on mine sites.

As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life. In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer. Gravity has not yet taken its toll on me.

Hopefully this doesnt break Rule 4, if it does I will delete it, if you click on her name in the article you can see her photo...OMG is looks like a cross eyed over weight goblin.

2021-07-15T17:13:26+00:00

Remember kiddos, if she is over 30 and unmarried there is usually a reason for it...and most likely has to do with her.

Neldot · 2021-07-15T09:20:23+00:00

One of the thing that I find truly amazing is how they try to sell the fact that in their 20s they accumulate an heavy baggage of bad relationships/hookups as their way to mature through experience and to be a better woman in the future. I know that it's just a cope mechanism for living with the weight of their bad decisions, but it's really illogical, how could they be maturing and becoming better women by accumulating psychological pain and damage? Total bullshit.

Accumulating a baggage of bad relationships/hookups is not only useless to improve their ability to chose better partners and build better relationships, quite the contrary, it's highly damaging, because it deludes them into thinking that they deserve "Mr.Perfect", creating totally unrealistic expectations while, at the same time, it totally disrupts their ability to pair bond with a "normal" man.

Land_of_the_Losers · 2021-07-15T09:37:26+00:00

She's about as interested in hearing the truth as an underage monarch is while sitting on the throne of some exhausted kingdom in its final years.

Joaquino7997 · 2021-07-15T09:59:23+00:00

Everything that he said about women in their 30s is accurate. And they're 1000x more cynical and insufferable when they get to their 40s!!

Chgralac73 · 2021-07-15T11:13:16+00:00

so there was a reality show called Rich Kids of Beverly Hills. in episode one an Iranian heiress blew 500k on luxury clothing to have her parents put her on budget. then she cried to her sister, her parents kicked her out. "did they kick you from the home". "no". "did they took away your ranger rover" "no but i have to pay my gasoline now" "then you aint been kicked out"

anyway fast forward nearly 10 years later and somehow she managed at 34 to marry a 31yo Iranian BH menswear designer worth 50-100mil

I guess fairy tales do happen /S but she is skinny, has big charismatic eyes, long black hair and most importantly no kids

uff there are so many stories from reality shows, with so much redpill in them :)

Cheveyo · 2021-07-15T13:16:34+00:00

Dude drops a wealth of knowledge on her and she gets offended because it isn't what she wants to hear.

Itburns12345 · 2021-07-15T10:18:48+00:00

So much b.s its breathtaking All through the 2000s we heard of the rise of the cougar , women in their 40s upwards still attractive enough to pick up younger men were hailed as heros just as we do for older guys who can do the same.

Now their memories have gotten cloudy about the fact they lust over young attractive counterparts everybit as much as we do.!!!!

Plus its not just the looks many 30yr old.remain hot , its that young women are actualy still fun and pleasant to talk to ! A 20 something will rarely sneer at you for your job and they still remember how to have a laugh and joke.

On top of that if you start dating one they know its just fun or whatever at the start...they dont talk babies, marriage and realtionship until things get a little serious. BY contrast every single 30+ will on almost 2nd date terms ask 'what are we' ? .......the real awnser is of course i dont frigging know ! i barely know you and havent screwed you a few times yet so that my brain can actualy fully engage and decide if i like your company or im just horny

MrNeurotypical · 2021-07-15T12:04:48+00:00

TL;DR: I am not what older men want; therefore, older men must be wrong. The problem isn't with me, its that men don't want her.

Ergo, we see this entire societal movement to delegitimize what men want. You can't "slut shame" (which apparently now includes not wanting a partner with herpes); you can't be "superficial" (but she sure can, because if you are not Chad you are an "incel"); you can't want someone who is fun, faithful, and cooperative (because thats patriarchy).

I mean, the basic timeline is feminism caused women to lose the qualities men desire--> Men stop wanting to commit to women who lack the qualities they desire--> the problem is that men need to change what they want to conform to what women have become.

Homely_Bonfire · 2021-07-15T12:38:29+00:00

As a 30-something woman, I am single and okay with it. Sure, I would love to find my perfect partner, but for now, I am working on me, loving me, building my business, creating a better version of me so that when I find my Mr. Right, I am the best version of myself.

His words and assessments do not daunt me because I know that there’s someone out there for me. And if not, I’m okay with it because my life is more than merely waiting for a soulmate.

A whole article written about how she does not give a damn about what he had to say. And: While she cuddles with the blank slate of holy equality, she fails to note that for once guys like him can get the 20-something-woman he wants to form a relationship (while she fails to get the man she desires) and secondly she leaves out a tiny little detail... most women want children and when they cannot find the partner they want once the are 30+ without focusing on finding the right person to pair up with, things are turning ugly and bitter rather quickly.

But in the end that is no problem, since they both were talking about different things. He was trying to make a general statement about women in his country, not to be taken literally but seriously, while she was mainly concerned about how his statements made her look and feel. This conversation should have never happen, it was a complete waste of time.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-07-15T14:09:03+00:00

Something tells me that when she hits 40, she is going to be replaying this conversation in her head over and over as she plows through cartons of boxed wine.

shivshenko · 2021-07-15T18:33:51+00:00

She says: "Trying to put down an older woman to justify dating a woman half your age is unacceptable"

Biatch, women do that all the time during their younger years. They are ruthless. If the guy is short, he gets treated like a sub-human!

Now the tables have turned, and you don't like it. The standards that you adhered to when you were young, unfortunately don't work when you've become old and lose your youthful beauty. The very same men that you wanted have dumped you on the streets. Boo hoo!

Now if men want to apply certain dating standards as to 'who' they wish to date, marry and have a relationship with .. you don't like that at all.

In the end, what goes around comes around. You will reap what you sow! Learn your lesson and teach the younger women the same. I doubt she will..

mr_kuk · 2021-07-15T09:25:18+00:00

“In my opinion women in their 30s are single because that is what they have worked for all their lives they now have a clear definition of the type of men that they want in their lives for a hook up. They have no time for unhawt guys, and as such, they want a man that is ready to be hawt and have sex and move on.”

I see it as us not wanting to repeat the mistakes of our 20s. As to having someone that we consider hawt, someone who is willing to be hawt and have hawt sex.

As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life. In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer. Gravity has not yet taken its toll on me. I have defeated biology and next I will defeat the wall!

As for sexual partners, why should this even matter? Most men are not asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, unless the woman wants to fight, which is all the time, so I find it ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her feelings. I just want to slut it up and be celebrated for it!

Men don't know what an appropriate amount of baggage is, it is women who should decide the appropriate amount of baggage which is the exact amount of baggage the woman in question has.

For me (single AF) what he (in a relationship with a woman he wants and who wants him back) wants and desires in a woman shouldn’t be projected as flaws of the women that he’s doesn’t like. You like what you like (you are wrong), and we want what we want (women are right), and that’s perfectly triggering men having preferences. Trying to put down an older woman by stating your preferences and dating a woman half your age is unacceptable, it's rape. And this, in my opinion, is precisely what he’s doing, he is raping her and me.

Yes, there is an argument to be had that some older women are picky. Maybe this is because of their past experiences, changing tastes, or a messed up view of what a “desirable” man is, and it is the right thing to do. Men can't be picking based on the same parameters because rape.

As a 30-something woman, I am single AF and okay with it. Sure, I would love to find my perfect partner (but no man is good enough), but for now, I am living life as if I a am a man. Right, I am the best version of a man.

His words and assessments do not daunt me because I know that there’s someone out there for me to hook up with. And if not, I’m okay with it because my life is more than merely waiting for a soulmate, it's about living your life as a man.

demthiccthighs · 2021-07-15T10:20:26+00:00

That's a long way of saying im a snobby bitch.

ArrowGantOne · 2021-07-15T10:25:12+00:00

Great post. Loved reading the comments on the article.

JakeDC · 2021-07-15T10:39:04+00:00

"You can't handle the truth!"

Bananas_Of_Paradise · 2021-07-15T11:58:55+00:00

My favorite part about this is how obvious it is that she's embellishing the story.

BluepillProfessor · 2021-07-15T14:22:02+00:00

Reeeee. He is wrong, and a mean man.

Do you think he is right?

Yes dear, not only is he right, he was very gentle with you.

number of partners shouldn't matter, only your faithfulness.

Let me explain in terms a stupid whore can comprehend. If you whored around for 20 years that means you we're unfaithful before. Once a cheating ho always a cheating ho.

At least they are consistent. Chad with 200 partners would not cheat on me. Right?

CuloDeMuerte · 2021-07-15T20:03:32+00:00

God forbid a guy should want to have a woman with a decent body with little to no stretch marks, no terrible kids as a constant reminder of the mistakes she's made, and a woman who hasn't had a small army between her legs. Yeah, what are guys thinking these days? How dare we actually date who we want to?

Maybe if women want a commitment later on in life they should try to be more selective with who they sleep with, how many guys they sleep with, & how careful they are when doing it.

Not saying women can't do what they want with their own bodies, have fun, but they don't get to decide how men respond to them after acting like some slutty teenager well into their late 20's to early 30's with a small tribe of kids.

Some guys will take care of some other guy's kids, & more power to them, but I'm not trying to use my hard earned money to take care of someone else's little mistakes.

Speaking as someone whose slept with some and went to school and worked with others (I used to mange a strip club), sex with a slutty girl is fun and all but aside from the bedroom and parties a slutty girl is usually not any damn fun to be around and is more trouble then they're worth in the long run.

And no matter how hard a good guy may try, you really can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

The vast majority of guys I've ever known support a woman's right to do as they please with their bodies but don't respect (And don't have to) a woman who chooses to allow dozens and dozens or even hundreds of guys sleep with them. There's just nothing to respect about a woman who does that and every woman I've ever known who was like that was a liar, a backstabber, and could never be trusted for any reason.

So, it's not just about women doing those things it's the type of women that do those things. A decent woman won't want to do those things to begin with.

Men should never be made to feel guilty for deciding who we want in our lives. Men have a right to decide to live our lives drama free. Because, as a famous rapper once said, "These hoes ain't got no manners."

Divine-Nemesis · 2021-07-15T09:57:40+00:00

She calls bs but she’s single in her 30’s, living her best life, and when the time comes, she will meet Mr Right.

Good Lord you can even be straight up honest with these dumb bitches and they still won’t believe you. Wtf?!? They are holding out for that HVM. If women want to know how Not to get a man, go to that sub. Happily MGTOW here

rmgrugby · 2021-07-15T12:41:41+00:00

"I call BS." You go ahead and do so, see how far that gets you. This man made some very interesting points.

Wildhouse83 · 2021-07-15T13:16:54+00:00

Her cats will definetly appreciate her being the best version of herself.

king_of_the_potato_p · 2021-07-15T14:55:58+00:00

“Why do you think women over 30 are single?” I gave him my answer. “In my opinion women in their 30s are single because they’ve matured and now have a clear definition of the type of men that they want in their lives. They have no time for games, and as such, they want a man that is ready to settle down and raise a family together.”

Every woman 30+ on tinder.

king_of_the_potato_p · 2021-07-15T14:59:10+00:00

His thoughts are that we want the perfect man, a man that has our complete wish list. I see it as us not wanting to repeat the mistakes of our 20s. As to having someone that we consider our equal, someone who is willing to settle down and live our lives together.

So she thinks shes equal to the perfect man. Nah not an over inflated ego at all.

Sekt27 · 2021-07-15T17:47:57+00:00

“Nevermind the fact that everything that he listed was all superficial and shallow. As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life. In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer.” Anyone see the irony in this whole paragraph?

reignoferror00 · 2021-07-15T17:48:33+00:00

Picky however you want to spin it is still picky. You can call it "Matured and have a clear definition of themselves" - doesn't change the end results for guys.

Ah, yet another one from Medium. I'll say it again - good name for them: neither rare nor well done.

polishknightusa · 2021-07-15T22:39:01+00:00

First off, we have what she says the guy said and not his side of the story:

"The Family Minded — Perhaps his biggest gripe with us 30-something women is that we wanted men who wanted to settle down and raise a family. His view is that no 30-something man wants to get married and raise a family because marriage is too risky and kids are expensive. "

That sounds like she's putting words into his mouth. Plenty of 30 something men (or even younger) want to settle down, but ironically it's because they want to do something women did in their 20's: "take it slow". Women complain about men pushing women into sex and she fails to realize that men don't like being pushed into massive financial commitment.. So she just says "He says NO men want to settle down. Isn't that crazy?"

"As a 30-something woman, I am single and okay with it. Sure, I would love to find my perfect partner, but for now, I am working on me, loving me, building my business, creating a better version of me so that when I find my Mr. Right, I am the best version of myself.
His words and assessments do not daunt me because I know that there’s someone out there for me. And if not, I’m okay with it because my life is more than merely waiting for a soulmate."

The opposite of the 30 something biological clock ticker/baby rabies gal is the one that is too-cool-for-school whose going to "find" the "soulmate" by just doing whatever she does and doesn't care if he shows up. She may be sincere but this level of apathy isn't a turn on for men even as it's often another shit-test to demand the guy climb the castle walls and slay the dragon.

If she so cool that she doesn't care if she 'finds' someone, she's certainly going to get her wish fulfilled. But why then is she writing about it if this doesn't matter to her?

philosophic_insight · 2021-07-16T20:50:45+00:00

what does it matter that I have had 400 dicks... as long as I'm faithful now?

AmbitiousHornet · 2021-07-15T07:38:50+00:00

So a man tells her what men want and she invalidates all that he has said in a defensive measure to prop up her insecure self. And she's still single. And she's loving herself.

lmnop123-456 · 2021-07-15T10:47:50+00:00

Anddddd she's still single talking about "when I fimd Mr. Right"... she still doesmt get it

thisisnotyourconcern · 2021-07-15T17:44:05+00:00

I took issue with this because for me it’s just not true. I am not
talking about the men’s desires; as a woman, I cannot speak to that.
Instead, I am talking about the features that he said disqualified us
from being desirable partners.

Hey, idiot, it doesn't matter what your thoughts are on what criteria men judge a woman's value as a partner are. It's irrelevant. It is wholly and exclusively up to men, as a demograpic, to decide.

Nevermind the fact that everything that he listed was all superficial
and shallow. As a 30-something woman, I am in the best shape of my life.

Not accoridng to men, which is ironically why you don't have a partner. Jesus, does this woman's brain resemble melted cooking chocolate or something?

In my 20s I was skinny, I had a flat ass and small boobs. Now that I’m
in my 30s my boobs and ass have gotten bigger and much nicer. Gravity
has not yet taken its toll on me.

And yet, you dated extensively in your 20s , but are struggling in your 30s.

As for sexual partners, why should this even matter? Most men are not
asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, so I find it
ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman
sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her
faithfulness to her current relationship.

Equality doesn't exist in this manner. It never has and never will. A woman who has a large amount of sexual partners is a poorer prospect for marriage because they're more likely to cheat. There's a copypasta that gets posted around here with the information on it. As far as I know, the effect is far less pronounced in men. Also, even if it wasn't the case... The amount of men who can have as much as women is remarkably limited.

He told me of how women would compare their current partners to their
past partners, picking out the negatives in their current men and saying
that he was just like so and so. For example, if their man left a cup
out of place, they would call him lazy like their ex. He also noted that
they were not as trusting as they’d been hurt many times before.

I am starting to like this dude more and more.

I call BS.

Surprised Pickachu face. I am shocked.

For me what he wants and desires in a woman shouldn’t be projected as
flaws of the women that he’s doesn’t like. You like what you like, and
we want what we want, and that’s perfectly fine. That’s what makes us
unique. Trying to put down an older woman to justify dating a woman half
your age is unacceptable. And this, in my opinion, is precisely what
he’s doing.

You think this because you're absoluly insane. What older woman did he try to put down? Name her. Oh, that's right, you can't. Because he didn't put any particular older woman down, did he? He highlighted that the demographic loosely referred to as 'older women' are simply more likely to have certain traits that are undesirable (in his opinion). Given there is a (growing) epidemic of older, single women, his words appear to have merit.

As a 30-something woman, I am single and okay with it. Sure, I would
love to find my perfect partner, but for now, I am working on me, loving
me, building my business, creating a better version of me so that when I
find my Mr. Right, I am the best version of myself.
His words and assessments do not daunt me because I know that there’s
someone out there for me. And if not, I’m okay with it because my life
is more than merely waiting for a soulmate.

You've corrected yourself twice in two paragraphs. You've officially lost it here.

tl;dr - 50s Man points out reality, 30s woman denies it.

Samy541 · 2021-07-15T17:58:00+00:00

"As for sexual partners, why should this even matter? Most men are not asked to talk about the number of partners they’ve had, so I find it ridiculous that in this day and age the number of men that a woman sleeps with matters. The only thing that should matter is her faithfulness to her current relationship."

No. A woman would be totally valid to not want to date a dude that was a player. I never quite understood why this standard was so unacceptable for dude to have. We just want women who have a similar body counts than us ffs.

ArrowGantOne · 2021-07-15T18:40:22+00:00

I'd truly like to ask the so called doctor how vaginal tightness is scientifically calculated. What instruments are used. Nothing will piss women off as easily as claiming a vagina can get stretched / worn out. But all those claims are hearsay and based on what they hope is true. I find it very interesting how mad they get at some of those claims yet have nothing but, "no, you're wrong" to refute the claims.

Charmingaxelotl · 2021-07-15T08:26:46+00:00

They know what they want they just wildly overestimate they’re value.

MrNeurotypical · 2021-07-15T15:40:19+00:00

OK guys, here's the take-away: This guy used logic and reason to answer her question. This will always fail. You have to use feelings to communicate to women. He would have had more success by telling her how men FEEL about women over 30. Oooh, I just got an idea for my next WAATGM essay.

2021-07-15T19:07:50+00:00

Flips table.

"I'm done playing! I'm happy alone...unless.."

MekelLane · 2021-07-16T09:10:17+00:00

All too typical. She says that she agrees with his having the right to those positions, but the way he said it made her feel unhappy, therefore it's wrong.

Pie_sky · 2021-07-15T08:34:20+00:00

I doubt this conversation ever happened, seems contrived.

devok1 · 2021-07-18T08:56:08+00:00

Sounds like shes about to od on copium.

liatriplel · 2021-07-19T17:07:56+00:00

He didn't give facts, he gave his middle aged, mid life crisis version of what type of girl would impress his boomer friends and make himself believe he still has it. Wanting a man to have his shit together for a stable life together is ridiculous but basing a relationship off the firmness of an ass isn't? Good lord but you men on this sub are weird.

I am not fond of hearing the truth, so I will call it ridiculous! Women being too picky past 30 is just us knowing what we want!

Truth is a tool of the patriarchy!!!

Facts are tools of the patriarchy!!!

That's muh soggy knees stick!!!

Shut it all down NOW!!!

Consistency is a tool of the patriarchy!!!!!!

Title	I am not fond of hearing the truth, so I will call it ridiculous! Women being too picky past 30 is just us knowing what we want!
Author	houseoftolstoy
Upvotes	434
Comments	289
Date	July 15, 2021 2:13 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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