A recent post titled "Men say I’m “too good” for them, and I’m confused... ." and the great response by u/thecleanslates brings to mind an important point that is often mentioned here regularly by u/where_muh_good_mens, u/kevin32, and u/moorekom, among others : MOST MEN DO NOT WANT MASCULINE WOMEN.

At risk of flogging a dead horse, I wanted to add some nuance to this topic.

Let's start where I think this all begins:

  1. Too many weak men have failed their women. For eons, women had to depend on men for a lot - resources, safety, protection, procreation, etc. In some ways, they still do, although they may be loathe to admit it. We also know that it is more often the lazy, sleazy, Chad/player types who fuck up. Nonetheless, women have a valid claim that they have the right to feel betrayed. However;

  2. Women make the babies. Women historically have made nearly 100% of the decisions on whose babies she will bear (outside arranged marriages and rape, which are both relatively rare). So it is mainly THEIR OWN CHOICES that so often cause their problems. (I will not even touch the matter of cuckoldry, which adds another dimension to this conversation). Also;

  3. Opposites attract. On a recent post "On Intimacy" I listed all the things my ex wife used to do at home. Since the divorce, I outsourced just about all of it. I am far from wealthy, and I could go into the cost/benefit thing, but the point is that it is not impossible for the average middle class single father to do at least some of these things:

  • Hire a cleaning company to deep clean once a week - scrub, change sheets, etc.
  • Hire a laundry place to wash, dry, fold laundry. (They pick up and deliver to!)
  • Get a (legit) massage once a month
  • Order take out from a restaurant
  • Date casually for the romance/sex stuff (no Tinder hookups, but more like serial monogamy. More on that another time)

So, what do I bring to the table? Just about everything else:

  • Make enough money to provide a humble, but comfortable quality of life for my children
  • Budget and plan everything, including vacations, college, retirement, etc.
  • Teach and nurture my children
  • Fix everything, except for major car or boiler issues.
  • Protect - I am fit and know how to fight. So everyone feels safe.
  • Nurture - PTA Dad, chauffeur, sporting event, awards thing, Girl Scouts, Martial Arts, etc.
  • Comfort - Hugs are normal in our house, and we talk about whatever need discussing.
  • Household - I do all the shopping and most of the cooking (except when I don't feel like it)

So, a simple man like me can handle all of this, and I outsource just about everything else. So the question becomes - What do I/we need a woman for?

I want to be careful here, I am NOT saying that a man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle. That was a foolish idiotic thing for Steinem to say. I am saying that, aside from intimacy and procreation, a man really does not need any woman for ANYTHING.

On the other hand, I/WE DO NEED OTHER MEN. To haul our trash, design build and maintain our infrastructure, guard our borders, mine and process natural resources, conduct science, police bad guys, teach and coach our children, and generally back us up in thousands of other ways. There is no shame in men saying this. It is a sign of appreciation and mutual respect to acknowledge that we all hep each other as it should be.

So, we do not need women to do these things, because men already have it all covered. And more often than not, men do these things FAR better than most women ever could - Police and military are obvious examples.

So somehow, through clever marketing, women have come to believe that we need MORE money, or MORE security, MORE strength, and MORE auto repair in our lives. But this is simply not true.

We need more Trust, Respect, and Intimacy. And that is on the decline.

THE BOTTOM LINE - AND A NOTE TO ANY WOMEN WHO MIGHT READ THIS

Men, children, and society - all of us - need women in a thousand small ways that make life worth living. You are very valuable to us. But not because you can kick ass in a board room, fight like an MMA champ, carry a weapon, or change the oil.

We (men, children, society, communities and yes, other women) need you to be FEMININE WOMEN. Trustworthy, comforting, nurturing, and supportive. We need soccer moms, PTA moms, and community watch moms. We need older women to teach the next generation, And we also need you to protect us from OTHER WOMEN!

What we have nowadays, is women teaching younger women to be hateful and needlessly competitive. Let that sink in.

You have been lied to. Softness has a power all its own. Women can mimic masculine energy, but they can never really BE a man. I am not sure why any woman would want to be a man anyway. You have been told that femininity is bad, and you should see this for the insult that it really is.

After all, isn't masculinity the thing feminists fight against? Why would you want to mimic this? Wouldn't rejecting it and doubling down on femininity be the better long term solution?

Femininity IS power. Just not in the way you have been conditioned to believe.

For a while now, women have been clamoring for equal rights. And women have rightly demanded that they get these rights and they worked very hard to get them. "Equal rights or else!"

Well, until women reclaim their femininity, and get back to doing the things that make women TRULY powerful, men are going to walk away. I don't care if it is being a monk, MGTOW, MRA, or like me - an Outsourcertm, we are not playing this game any more until we get back our feminine women.

Until then we will do our thing and continue to ridicule and point out those women who deliberately fuck up their own lives, and those who attempt to be weak caricatures of men.

Consider yourselves notified.