As an "Out and Proud" slut shamer, let me say that I am more than ready to have that conversation. Some of this has already been addressed by others who apparently woke up earlier than I did, but here goes:
Women are not afraid to say "No" to men they're not attracted to. Every guy who's been in the game has been shot down plenty of times. Even Chad misses more often than not.
A lot of women are attracted to "bad boys" who have learned that when a lot of women say, "No" they really mean, "Try harder." Old school red-pillers call this "ASD" (Anti-Slut Defense), which is a way for women to shift accountability to the men for "pressuring" them into doing what they wanted to do but didn't want to own. I'll even go so far as to say that some women seek out reasons to be alone with boundary-testing men because they know they can excuse their slutiness by claiming to have been pressured. "Glen from Accounting" isn't going to pick her up and toss her on the bed after a night of clubbing, but she's never going to allow herself to be alone with him in the first place: he's not nearly edgy enough. She told Glen, "No" when he asked her to the office Christmas party... then reported him to HR.
Women are either adults or they are not. If they are, then they need to own the consequences of their decisions... from accepting the date, to accepting the drink, to accepting all the drinks that followed, to accepting the invitation to go somewhere private, to setting up fake hurdles and not leaving when they're not respected (which proves they were fake all along), to everything that happens after. Even young boys are expected to own their actions, so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect grown women to do the same.
On the other hand, if women are not responsible for the consequences of their choices then they should not be considered adults, and all sorts of things follow from that. What kind of things?... things like voting, and signing contracts, and deciding who to marry, and being allowed to initiate legal proceedings, and having their own bank accounts, and holding military rank, and holding political office, and dozens more ways. With the authority to make adult decisions comes full responsibility for the consequences.
If you're not ready for responsibility then you're not ready for authority. Adult levels of autonomy come with adult levels of "owning your $##+."
So which is it: Adult or child? Autonomous individual or Slave to her emotions? Equality or pedestal?
CHOOSE, DAMMIT! Once and for all - and it's not a smorgasbord. Then accept the consequences of your choice and STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM.
My God man. Did you have any inkling she was a nominee for slut of the year before you dated her? I mean cheating is bad. But to go into a room and just fuck three random dudes? Who in the hell raised that whore? Lana Rhodes?
You dodged a Thanos snap not a bullet. She sounds like bad news in a Sunday hat. If she did that to you when you went to a music festival you should have gotten her tickets to Astroworld.
Sounds like she missed the memo that a woman can choose NOT to be in a room alone with a man
you must be one of those Bill Cosby apologists /S everyone knew he was kidnapping the women in a white van, and like the vampire he was he even compelled them to keep bringing him and his wife gifts years after he raped them /S
Youncan too, stop making excuses. Go back and re read what you wrote, you wrote about pushing for more when a woman says no. Every comment you make refers to Roosh. Calling him a Persian fuck isn’t racist, he happens to be a fuck that is Persian. One say he is muslim. One day he is Armenian orthodox, one day he is Eastern Orthodox. He can’t even make up his mind, and this is who you get your advise from.
Maybe go and speak to some older men and ask them for advise instead of lost idiots on the Internet.
There’s the aspect of physical violence. I’m bi, I know what it’s like to fuck a guy real quick because it’s easier than saying no and wondering if he’s going to beat your ass. I think that’s why women just go along. Sometimes it’s the safer option.
That’s the way I have been but I’ve had many female friends talk about this and I know I’ve done it. I’m 6’ and weigh 350. But I don’t want to get beat up if I don’t have to be. Especially if you’re meeting a guy from an app.
When I date women, I always make sure to keep it as creep free as possible by meeting in public place and being polite. When girls reject, I just take it in my stride and don’t cross the line again. So I agree with you, just echoing other things I hear.
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As an "Out and Proud" slut shamer, let me say that I am more than ready to have that conversation. Some of this has already been addressed by others who apparently woke up earlier than I did, but here goes:
Women are not afraid to say "No" to men they're not attracted to. Every guy who's been in the game has been shot down plenty of times. Even Chad misses more often than not.
A lot of women are attracted to "bad boys" who have learned that when a lot of women say, "No" they really mean, "Try harder." Old school red-pillers call this "ASD" (Anti-Slut Defense), which is a way for women to shift accountability to the men for "pressuring" them into doing what they wanted to do but didn't want to own. I'll even go so far as to say that some women seek out reasons to be alone with boundary-testing men because they know they can excuse their slutiness by claiming to have been pressured. "Glen from Accounting" isn't going to pick her up and toss her on the bed after a night of clubbing, but she's never going to allow herself to be alone with him in the first place: he's not nearly edgy enough. She told Glen, "No" when he asked her to the office Christmas party... then reported him to HR.
Women are either adults or they are not. If they are, then they need to own the consequences of their decisions... from accepting the date, to accepting the drink, to accepting all the drinks that followed, to accepting the invitation to go somewhere private, to setting up fake hurdles and not leaving when they're not respected (which proves they were fake all along), to everything that happens after. Even young boys are expected to own their actions, so I don't think it's unreasonable to expect grown women to do the same.
On the other hand, if women are not responsible for the consequences of their choices then they should not be considered adults, and all sorts of things follow from that. What kind of things?... things like voting, and signing contracts, and deciding who to marry, and being allowed to initiate legal proceedings, and having their own bank accounts, and holding military rank, and holding political office, and dozens more ways. With the authority to make adult decisions comes full responsibility for the consequences.
If you're not ready for responsibility then you're not ready for authority. Adult levels of autonomy come with adult levels of "owning your $##+."
So which is it: Adult or child? Autonomous individual or Slave to her emotions? Equality or pedestal?
CHOOSE, DAMMIT! Once and for all - and it's not a smorgasbord. Then accept the consequences of your choice and STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM.
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My God man. Did you have any inkling she was a nominee for slut of the year before you dated her? I mean cheating is bad. But to go into a room and just fuck three random dudes? Who in the hell raised that whore? Lana Rhodes?
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You dodged a Thanos snap not a bullet. She sounds like bad news in a Sunday hat. If she did that to you when you went to a music festival you should have gotten her tickets to Astroworld.
Too soon?
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Thank you.
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you must be one of those Bill Cosby apologists /S everyone knew he was kidnapping the women in a white van, and like the vampire he was he even compelled them to keep bringing him and his wife gifts years after he raped them /S
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Youncan too, stop making excuses. Go back and re read what you wrote, you wrote about pushing for more when a woman says no. Every comment you make refers to Roosh. Calling him a Persian fuck isn’t racist, he happens to be a fuck that is Persian. One say he is muslim. One day he is Armenian orthodox, one day he is Eastern Orthodox. He can’t even make up his mind, and this is who you get your advise from.
Maybe go and speak to some older men and ask them for advise instead of lost idiots on the Internet.
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There’s the aspect of physical violence. I’m bi, I know what it’s like to fuck a guy real quick because it’s easier than saying no and wondering if he’s going to beat your ass. I think that’s why women just go along. Sometimes it’s the safer option.
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That’s the way I have been but I’ve had many female friends talk about this and I know I’ve done it. I’m 6’ and weigh 350. But I don’t want to get beat up if I don’t have to be. Especially if you’re meeting a guy from an app.
When I date women, I always make sure to keep it as creep free as possible by meeting in public place and being polite. When girls reject, I just take it in my stride and don’t cross the line again. So I agree with you, just echoing other things I hear.
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so what she is saying is that women should not be allowed to leave house without a male relative? how progressive of her :P
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