No sex during ovulation

July 7, 2016

First post. Started swallowing 3 months ago. Agree totally with many observations that swallowing the red pill is a long process not one quick fix. I am lifting for the first time which I am surprised I love. Willingness to interact and game with everyone has improved. I am 46. wife 42. married 20 years. I reckon the slide into the beta phase coincides with arrival of 2nd child so maybe 13 years. My biggest issue and fear is how our relationship moves with my wife's cycle. Sex has been improving in frequency. We have sex during shark week. We have sex either side of shark week but I get clear refusals and avoidance when she is ovulating. The fact she doesn't want me when I know she is horny is really upsetting, killing my frame, making me very very mad.
I know one or all of the following apply: (1) I am not alpha enough for her during that time (as per MMSL) (2) She knows she is horny and doesn't like it / fears it (3) There is an AF actively in play I haven't seen anyone post about this type of behaviour (although ATOL mentions it) so was wondering if anyone had similar experiences they had worked through?

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Title No sex during ovulation
Author Anomalousfunction
Upvotes 11
Comments 15
Date July 7, 2016 5:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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[–]anythinginc9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you see any other ovulation traits? Showing more skin? Drawn to masculine things? Urge to go out? Girls nights? The cycle might still be there, but it can mellow out and every woman is different and it changes as they age too. The conventional wisdom on "ovulation game" is that yeah, it is not good if your partner isn't DTF during ovulation...but it is also the time to really up the jerk-boy charm. If ovulation is horny slut mode then red pill wisdom is that it takes massive game to bang a horny slut. You have to alpha, amog, jerk-boy, shut down LMR, throw'em down and rip those panties off.

Your SMV might just not be high enough to be fuckable during peak fertility, and/or you're just trying to bang a DTF hoe with your beta game, when jerk-boy caveman with a day or two of pregame, logistics, and tight initiation/escalation would get the lay. Not enough info to tell.

[–]PurpleVeteran4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Who is this newcomer who is so wise in the ways of MRP?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, he ain't a newcomer.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Prefacing by saying I've never been through a pattern like that where she denies always at some time. All three of your ideas has merit. During ovulation woman tend to crave that wild sex, intense, passionate, controlling. Have you shown yourself capable of giving that? I could see her think "I dont want his beta soft sex now id take nothing over that."

With respect to #2 all women are DTF but if theyve never been in hot passionate sex with you in control she may indeed have a disconnect where you havent demonstrated that you want that from her so she acts like she doesnt like it. Sort of like the "I dont like muscley guys" thought process.

With respect to #3 if there is a chad and she's getting her fix there maybe this would happen.


Bottom line though you see how all of these are caused by and fixable by you right? Keep up with your MAP to naturally show more alpha. Throw her around and show her you like it rough sometimes. Without any other details i'd say #3 is least likely here but as always "trust but verify".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hows the B/C. Chems can fuck up the cycle. Beyond that, look for those tells in MMSLP. They generally want mondingo during that phase, how available is she?

[–]spexer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ovulation time is when you need to be a man of quality - she subconsciously doesnt want to have a weak mans baby. You know this.

So it is natural for there to be more LMR and shit tests when you go for it during this time - she wants you to PROVE your worth.

Thus, there is a possibility that she is fuckable then, you are not pushing through the increased tests.

[–]PurpleVeteran2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the past, I noticed that my wife's interest in sex tended to be before or after shark week, not during peak ovulation. I dismissed this at the time, but now I think that it was more that she liked "comfort" sex with her beta husband, and wasn't getting the domination and wild sex that she craved at her peak. In my case, it was 1 and 2, but also that she was masturbating without me (who needs to fumble around for an hour with a fat, weak sauce husband, when she can do it herself in a couple minutes?).

The thing is, she's very reactive and doesn't know what she wants when we start. She's never asked to be dominated, and because I was polite, I kept checking to see if this or that was okay.

Things have gotten better since I changed my approach and just initiate. She's a big girl who knows what she likes, knows when it doesn't feel good or hurts, and we have a safe word. We've done things recently that we haven't done since we were dating. Sometimes she lets me go to town, other times she changes angles or waves me off entirely. Does she still masturbate? Who knows, but as I said, she's a big girl and we have fun when we're together.

If you're worried about it, my advice is to keep working on your dread game: lift, dress better, and become a more desirable man. As you get near her peak, be more direct with your approach: kino, innuendo, slap her ass (mine never liked this, but it's become a thing now), and work in a few hard long kisses. Put your hand behind her head and pull her to you, throw her on the bed and manhandle her a bit, etc. Don't be afraid to exercise some limits. It doesn't have to lead to sex, but give her a taste of the alpha, and she should respond.

And if you are really worried about Chad, then do your due diligence and kill or confirm that fear.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

clear refusals and avoidance when she is ovulating. The fact she doesn't want me when I know she is horny is really upsetting, killing my frame, making me very very mad.

Interesting situation. Yet she is having sex with you the rest of the time, even during shark week.

Maybe she isn't as horny as you think during ovulation. Remember as she ages, she will go into peri-menopause. Could even be now. Any signs of hot flashes?

She might be horny during ovulation, but maybe there are other problems. Some, actually many, women have pain during ovulation. It can be severe.

She is 42, maybe the idea of potentially having a child ruins it for her. My woman often said, after she turned 40, that if she ever got pregnant, she might commit suicide. Point is, this might not be about you.

You have been RP for only 3 months. For now, find something else to run your hamster about. You have plenty of other things you can actually work on and do something about.

[–]wakethfkupneo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll bring you the bad news: The Number One Dead Giveaway That Your Wife Is About To Cheat

If you hear from your woman “I have a headache” any time during her peak fertility, she has either cheated on you, is thinking about cheating on you, or is getting sufficiently turned off by your burgeoning betaness that cheating will soon become an option in the calculation of her moral universe.

You should examine that possibility.

[–]donerkebabplease1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

3 months is very early if you've been married 20 years. I agree with druganswer, schedule in some masculine activities around that time. Let her see you being all alpha and shit. My wife use to only fuck me during ovulation week, not sure what that says about me, if anything. I've now opened up shark week and make up sex, because I stopped hiding from my masculine need to fuck. She actually tells me that it's a huge turn on for her when I won't take no for an answer and if I keep at it, she get's wet and so do I.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are generally less attracted to their partners and more attracted to other men during ovulation if and only if they don't find their partner attractive. 1 is definitely the case, 2 is extremely doubtful, and 3 is a possibility, though unlikely unless you have any other proof.

With that having been said, you're well on the right path. Give this another six months doing what you're doing, and it's doubtful that you'll be having this problem imo.

[–]Chump_No_More0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

During ovulation, A woman's hypergamous nature will not allow 'inferior sperm' inside her.

The fact that the wife 'allows' sex during shark week is also a huge tell. OP has been weighed, measured, and found wanting.

Additionally, being butt-hurt about just confirms to her hamster what her lizard brain already knows... OP is not worthy.

OP, keep lifting, keep working on the Sidebar, keep working on your Frame... keep improving.

[–]screechhater0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

A bubble burst- more work ahead for you. Unattractive Most likely due to blue pill bitch behavior.

1- kill ego

2- dread.

3- it is time to truly get some distance.

4- SGM

Quit mind fucking this to death and start corrective action.

[–]The_Litz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women test more fiercely around ovulation. You have to be the man if you want to conquer her.

You have upped the game and she wants to see if this is real or just a flash in the pan fake.

Also don't assume by just pitching up she is going to bang you hard because it is ovulation time. Your gaming has to be up to scratch. You have to be up to scratch.

You are a little butthurt and insecure because of it, she knows it and you are discovering it. Develop some OI and abundance mentality. Women sense need/desperation.

You are on track and yes, it is a process, not an event.

[–]KyfhoMyoba0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No sex during ovulation means that she is repulsed by your sperm, by you. It means that you've still got a lot of work to do.

What level of Dread Game are you at?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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