Tracking periods when there are no periods

lintheswithd · 2017-05-30T16:09:48+00:00

If her mood is stable, there's no shark week, and your meeting schedule is erratic, I'm not sure where the value in tracking is... If you had a way to divine her cycle, what problem would you be trying to solve with that information?

DoctorNini · 2017-05-30T16:36:05+00:00

if she doesnt cycle, you are getting a woman who doesnt cycle so there is no cycle to keep track of.

get it?

RPAlternate42 · 2017-05-30T16:36:53+00:00

Nuvaring is a constant deliverance of hormone. It's the same as taking the pill ~~but skipping the sugar pill on the 4th week.~~

EDIT: I was thinking IUD. Nuvaring is removed and a new one inserted every month. It is basically the pill on they "take it" once.

Effectively, all hormone BC convinces the woman's body that she is pregnant. Her moods will be that of a pregnant woman without the weight gain and sore joints from carrying the extra weight.

Basically, there is no period to track.

Pros:

no major mood swings: Hormonal BC lowers the ceiling on the highs and raises the floor on the lows.
no "shark week" or period excuse for no sex (applies to BB husbands)
no fear of pregnancy (hormonal is basically 100% effective.)

Cons:

no major mood swings: Hormonal BC lowers the ceiling on the highs and raises the floor on the lows. The downside here is that her "highs" coincide with her horniness and high libido during ovulation. Her attitude about sex is more meh than without BC.
she will have perpetual water weight that will never go away. Her BMR is also lower.
overall energy tends to be lower.
motivation for new things tends to be lower.
BC, for my wife, was used as an excuse for low libido. Instead of admitting she didn't want to fuck me, she used "I think the pill makes me not like sex with you" (emphasis added on the end by me.)

My wife was on the pill. She stopped shortly after I started MRP. She did this, I think, because as I got my shit together, started defining my body, and started NGAF about sex when I was rejected, I think she felt like she was being left behind. She's a smart girl and knows the effects of the pill, but her hind brain took those and said he's getting fit and far more flirty and open and I'm threatened. I need to compete.

So she went off the pill. Within a week she dropped 5 lbs and she didn't change her diet. Her period, immediately following cessation, was like 11 days long. A few days later she's suddenly way more frisky than ever. A week later it drops off, a week more and I'm no longer very interesting. Period comes and she's hugging and doing things for me. A week later, horny... etc. etc.

I had started using Clue... but I was able to track based on her behavior very easily.

Then she started working out and then asked for me to put a weight plan together for her. she wanted a better butt and to lose weight. So I put her on some high-volume glute and ham work on top of a 5x5 program. She got stronger, got a better butt, lost some weight. We switched her to 5/3/1. She got stronger and used tot he rhythm of the gym sessions.

She then decided to go back on the pill. She lasted 2 weeks. She hated the way it made her feel. She complained about how her workouts sucked, how she didn't want to even do them. She said she gained 6 lbs in less than a week. She dropped the pill again and lost the weight and got her energy back.

The first half of this:

Tracking ovulation is pointless because she isn't ovulating. When the woman's body has the hormones that mimic pregnancy, ovulation stops, as it does during pregnancy.

Second half:

There are more benefits to not being on hormone BC than being on it, IMHO. No BC is natural body chemistry and anytime you start dicking with hormones you start dicking with the body's natural order.

We get away with no BC because she's been tied off. If you have kids, and want no more, I recommend you get a vasectomy. No doctor will do a tubal without a cesarean or other reason for being in their; they are very invasive surgeries. Get the vasectomy, call it a day. A natural wife is far superior than a hormone-stunted wife.

red-sfpplus · 2017-05-30T16:13:34+00:00

I don't know why you would need to track since she doesn't really ovulate or have a shark week.

The crappy part of female birth control is that is levels them out and they seek out typically beta traits. Without the peak of ovulation hormones you generally miss out on the naughtier sex you can get around that time of the month.

But you also don't have to deal with shark week.

Personally I see no need to track her empty cycle.

anythinginc · 2017-05-30T17:08:23+00:00

To answer your question:

You may also start on Day 2 to 5 of your period...NuvaRing is used in a 4-week cycle. Keep NuvaRing in your vagina for 3 weeks (21 days) and then remove it for a 1-week (7-day) break.

In your case, her body doesn't matter, what matters is her Nuva cycle.

Chart here:

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/archives/fdaDrugInfo.cfm?archiveid=13949

The chart halfway down corresponds to her etonogestrel and EE levels the ring is giving her. Etonogestrel being a progestin (synthetic progestogen), and "EE" is a synthetic estrogen. The levels correspond to levels from late pregnancy.

http://www.natural-parenting-advice.com/images/progesterone-levels-in-pregnancy.jpg

So, hormonally, putting in a new ring is going to be like she is 36 weeks pregnant all the time except for when she has her period (assuming she takes it out and has one), minus the 36 hours or so between one ring and the next where her levels are low but rising rapidly.

To the real answer:

First, I see my LTR about 50% of the time due to our custody schedules-- when we both have kids, we might manage to snatch a lunch date or cup of coffee, but no sleepovers. It is a challenge sometimes to assess her day-to-day moods...

You don''t live together. She should be, as Dan Savage likes to say, "good, giving, and game" all the time. Don't tolerate bitchiness, unpleasantness, or being sexually unavailable. This should be honeymoon phase all the time. Be like a normal person, i.e...if the person you are dating isn't trying to keep you, grow distant until they start trying again, if they don't, move on. This isn't even red pill, this is just being a functioning reciprocal adult. It should go without saying to always be improving.

DoctorNini · 2017-05-30T17:37:01+00:00

A woman that does not have a cycle because she uses a contraceptive with hormones, does not have PMS. All the men here saying their LTR does: no she doesn't. She just uses the excuse card to be moody.

I am saying this both as an MD and as a woman. I have used the pill and now am off hormones: it is COMPLETELY different. Don't let anybody tell you otherwhise, just Google the biology behind and you'll understand.

RPWolf · 2017-05-30T17:26:36+00:00

I am in the same boat on this just with different BC. My wife uses Mirena which is a hormonal IUD. Her periods are basically non-existent and if they occur are only a day or two and extremely light. However, she still gets PMS and I have been able to track slightly based on that. I use Flo to track her periods. I would imagine a hormonal IUD would work to the same degree as any other hormonal BC.

ParadoxThatDrivesUs · 2017-05-30T18:25:59+00:00

Just gonna let this sentence echo: "It is a challenge sometimes to assess her day-to-day moods when I don't see her every day and we're communicating via phone or text."

BluepillProfessor · 2017-05-30T23:46:02+00:00

Are her moods stable?

Let me object to my own question as the words "her" and "stable" renders the question nonsensical. Rephrasing:

Are her moods cyclical and do they follow a general monthly and weekly pattern?

If it is like menopause you get a dampening of mood swings but a clear monthly cycle remains- the 4 seasons if you will: Whiny (Week 1) Crabby List maker (week 2), Horny Shit Testing Monster (week 3) and Bitchy Premenstrual Alien (week 4).

TLDR: I bet the pattern for your woman is just attenuated and you can still observe it.

screechhater · 2017-05-31T03:45:22+00:00

This is a mind fuck for a woman going through the motions for a convient LTR. Get a grip. Be honest.

She will climb through broken windows for the right guy and fuck you with her or your kids in the house. Or not.

You don't have an LTR. You hand an arrangement. Sorry man It's lack of attraction.

See sidebar. Look in the mirror. Be honest

Title	Tracking periods when there are no periods
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