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Victim Puke, but its my fault

August 21, 2015
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I am struggling with the thought process/ circumstance below and would like some insight. The "usual" insights arent getting it done internally for me, so maybe there is some specific theory I need to read before I go further in my reading.

Situation is thus : I was ready to nuke the marriage and this got her into survival mode, I think. She is significantly better with her behavior but continues to have outbursts of hamsterisms when it comes to money and deserving things, and acting out towards me . MUCH better.

  • Case in point the other night : she got mad at the dog ( puppy) who was howling and just being an ass. We are in the process of training him. There was a failure to lead on our part, we got a trainer in to help with teaching us how to correct and how to think about it. She breaks down and yells at him like a banshee. then turns and yells at me when I remind her that yelling at dog isn't productive. My reaction was to say " you are now yelling at ME, and that doesn't fly" she yells "yes I am yelling at you " and walks out of the room. About 10 minutes later when I finished what I was doing I come out of the bedroom to find her crying on the couch, I approach and tell her again calmly that its not ok to yell at me she says " I know, I didn't want to , I lost control, that's why I walked away, Im sorry please don't be mad at me" etc etc

I am ok with this for now because I do see improvement and as I failed to vet a person from a home where the woman yelling was the norm, I am now correcting the consequences.

In another note, she basically , through my actions figured out that sex is an issue, and that if I dont feel desired, I have no reason to stay, and that the only way to show me desire is to fuck.
Sex is great when it happens. I initiate often and currently get " I want you but I don't feel good" statements often . Other times, great sex. nothing to do with cycle, she doesnt have one.

The issue I am having internally is, as a person who has medical issues , I know what its like to feel like crap and not want to do anything. I also acknowledge that a lot of her shit is perfectly valid but its almost bad luck with timing on her part : falls off ladder, GI issues, fibro etc etc.

So while I give her a good amount of the cuddles because frankly I like them, I often lay there and think, "well if she can stroke my chest she can stroke my cock"

The white knight is strong in this one, and while I don't feel particularly guilty or whatever about wanting sex more, nor is there a covert contract when I give her beta type affection, I do truly want to make her feel better when her stomach hurts or when she is in pain in general,but I am tired of this war:

  1. she needs cuddles to feel sexy, and her depression etc make her feel not sexy
  2. i need sex to feel loved and give her more cuddles etc.

wtf!
and yes smv is improving etc. Improved enough? may never be due to a relatively unique medical issue ( yes I am a fucking dragon as far as medical conditions)

Any thoughts besides lift and read? ( read which book or text next?)

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Title Victim Puke, but its my fault
Author Scurvemuch
Upvotes 2
Comments 10
Date August 21, 2015 7:02 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus man. She is spoonfeeding you the exact bullshit you need to hear to let her off the hook.

Either stay the course and see if she'll shape up or get the fuck rid of her. Or get ready for your bluepill heaven to set back in.

Edit: You want reading? Guide for Career Beta.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like she needs an Oak.

I want you but I don't feel good

Roll her over, spoon her, then enter her from behind while she lays on her side. Use lube if needed. If she protests tell her I want you and this won't take long. Then cuddle with her all she wants.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

, spoon her, then enter her from behind while she lays on her side. Use lube if needed. If she protests tell her I want you and this won'

well that was concise. tried this, it usually works wonders. issue is I am Goblining away about how its such a fucking coincidence that all these things keep happening. you also cant exactly do that to a woman who is having GI issues almost non stop lately. yes we are dealing with it my main frustration is that its one thing after another

I do the oak thing, except I am not sure that its not coming from some white knight BS.

I think too much

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

are they excuses? Or is she seeing a doctor.

Because if she's not trying to fix them and get back into the game post haste, then it's an excuse

[–]Niixi-1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

"If she protests". That sounds an aweful lot like you're suggesting sexual assault. Not that you care, though. Completely dismissing a womans 's "protest" to sexual intercourse is not commendable or "alpha" in any way.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

So the woman is a just an inanimate object? She is unable to move her pussy out of the way and give a hard "no." She already said "I want you" in the hypothetical and that is not enough? You are insulting the psychological and emotional maturity of my wife in your snarky question and her intelligence exceeds yours by about 75 IQ points.

Women communicate 90% of their bullshit nonverbally and the communication of this woman is clear.

You problem is twofold. First you want to reserve the woman's right to fuck over the man at any time and for any reason but we don't play that game with you girls any more. Second, you want to reserve the woman's right to be in TOTAL control of the sex in the marriage. Anything less is "rape." Got it. However, we REALLY do not play that little female mind game any more.

She married the man agreeing to fuck him. If she doesn't want to do that then my advice is to tell her to fuck the Hell off and divorce her sorry ass.

Not that you care, though.

I have been married for more than 20 years, 2 of them happily, 18 of them were made a living Hell by following your supplicating, bowing down, scraping, man on his knees advice. 2 of them following my advice and my wife has never been happier.

Finally, let me guess you are a big fan of Christian Gray. But that was all consensual! Why he even negotiated a contract with her! Nothing to do with him being an Alpha Billionaire- and Christian will always ask permission- right?

TLDR: Go to Hell, troll.

[–]Niixi1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

What level is your reading comprehension at? Because, you keep going on about your wife, and stated "you are insulting the psychological and emotional maturity of my wife in your snarky question". Where in my original statement did I ever ask a question? Where did I say anything about your marriage, or your wife, or your situation?

Where did I say I want women to be able to fuck men over, or state that I want women to have "total control" over sex in a marriage?

You're implying and inserting all kinds of bullshit that I never said to you, in any capacity. This is why I am questioning your reading comprehension.

Marriage is not an agreement to fuck a man. It is an "agreement" to be in a long term relationship, and a piece of paper apparently attests to that. And I COMPLETELY agree with you. A woman SHOULD get a divorce if her husband is incapable of handling even the slightest rejection.

Lastly, i'v never read 50 shades of gray, or seen the movie. I'm not sure why you're assuming I have consumed that literary garbage, but you seem to believe a great many stereotypes about women and their behaviour, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. A true BDSM relationship is completely different than that garbage, but that's a completely different topic.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, or questions something you say: It doesn't mean they're a troll. Also, there is no such thing as hell.

Your reaction to my simple statement speaks volumes about your emotional maturity.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Marriage is not an agreement to fuck a man. It is an "agreement" to be in a long term relationship, and a piece of paper apparently attests to that.

This is where we and almost all empowered yougogirllllz disagree. Men get married to lock down a single pussy. If you don't have that you don't have a marriage.

You- and almost all women- want marriage to mean:

I get whatever I want, he pays for me. I get to decide when HE has sex. I get to cash out any time I want for cash and prizes.

I am not putting in words- that is precisely what you just said and it is exactly what you mean.

TLDR: No thanks.

Marriage to a modern woman is like BASIC programming:

  1. MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEEMEMEME.
  2. Go to 1.

[–]Niixi0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Again, you're insinuating and inserting thoughts and ideas that have no basis in reality. Putting words in other people's mouths to suit your argument and position, is not actually winning an argument or being a critical thinker. All of what you just wrote is stereotyped bullshit.

Not all women want marriage. Not all women want children. Not all women make less money then their spouse and demand an "allowance".

You seem to have absorbed so much of this Red Pill bullshit that you're incapable of seeing women as individual human beings. It's all just sexist stereotypes and vitriol. What a petty little man you are.

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not all women...

Sure, NAWALT. Plus unicorns, rainbows, and sunshine.

My wife makes many times what I make. So what? She would still get everything in a divorce. What you call sexist stereotypes I call "the legal system."

I object to your desire to take away the only thing that men gain from marriage which reveals your intention and desire that all power be in the hands of woman. We get it.

We understand why that is "petty" to you. So while decrying the Red Pill view that "All Women Are Like That" you thought you would prove the central tenant of female solopsism? Good one!

you're incapable of seeing women as individual human beings. It's all just sexist stereotypes and vitriol.

Ha! You are projecting so hard it is going to damage the Pluto probe in about 9 hours. We are immersed in a sea of sexist stereotypes and vitriol directed against men and most of the cute little fishies don't even know they are in the water.

Anything suggesting men also have rights and a say in the marriage is met by people like you and we thank you for the display.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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