Do you believe in the core attraction principles of the red pill?

OsmiumZulu · 2020-04-16T01:34:33+00:00

Do you believe in the core attraction principles of the red pill?

Yes.

Baptism doesn't change how vaginas work.

OrlandoTheAxe · 2020-04-16T03:28:38+00:00

1 & 2) Ridiculous. You cannot have sex with someone's personality. Personality competing with physical appearance is the exception. It's how we're programmed.

11) "Orbit your lady at the bar all night until she caves and decides to sleep with you." Perhaps it does work for one night stands, but not for lifelong marriages.

16) Maybe low SMV sluts adhere to this. As many here have discovered, your wife doesn't. For long term relationships it's shape up or ship out. Nobody wants to marry a cheat meal.

18 & 20) "Portray a false self and keep it up when she calls you out on it. That'll get you in her pants for sure."

Does anyone else find this ridiculous? A Chihuahua can bark like a German Shepherd all it wants, no one is ever going to look at that Chihuahua and think "that's a German Shepherd." How is it not the same with people?

OrlandoTheAxe · 2020-04-16T03:39:12+00:00

The problem here is that truth (to some extent) is defined by the victors. The victorious high SMV males have a completely different experience than the guys at the bottom. They believe their experiences are the only valid experiences, and in doing so they completely fail to address the reality of half the guys out there. Incels do the same thing, only in reverse.

To GigaChad, women are easy and all you need to do is talk a big game and maintain frame.

To StBlackOpscel, women treat him like an insect, and nothing he can say or do will ever change that.

We will not have the truth until we find something that explains both of these equally valid experiences. Chad isn't lying when he says these 37 Rules work for him. BlackOpscel isn't lying when he says he has a great personality, but get's rejected anyway.

This absolute truth is worth finding because we can use it to pull incels out of their misery, give them tools that actually work, and point them to Christ. You cannot do that when you're peddling a theory that completely ignores and invalidates the reality of the low value male. It's real life; they're living it.

I came here initially because I want to find this truth. I was a daily lurker of incel forums, until one day I thought "what does the Bible (the ultimate source of truth) have to say about all this?" We need to be pulling folks from the matrix into real life, not from one matrix to another.

For the record, I think RPC gets it right on most points. The main thing we disagree on is how appearance is weighted in overall attractiveness.

Praexology · 2020-04-16T01:41:07+00:00

1) Untrue. There are plenty of high profile, high confidence quasimodos out there to prove the difference. The inverse is also true. Low frame but high attractive guys will also get it.

The issues arise when you apply this principal to a long term relationship.

2) Again not necessarily true. True frame translates to High RMV. SMV is for the most part a combination of confidence (which can be faked) and physical attractiveness.

10) Some might, some might not. ONSs are not good representation of LTRs. S*** tests come in when a woman is asking herself "Is this guy worth my time." Which they ask a LOT.

11) Whoever wrote this seems to not have an actual frame. Seems to be really pining for whatever girl he's after. "If I stick around long enough, and put up with her bullying maybe she'll be just hammered enough to put out." Value yourself more. If it isn't a hell yes, it's a hell no.

You can’t leave when she insults you or acts like she doesn’t want to talk to you. If you do, you’re failing her tests.

You can pass her test, but you'll fail at retaining some resemblance of respectability. TRP is full of fragile teenage boys trying to impress eachother. If you have to multiply a woman's n-count by 10, then you have to take the average TRP subscribers n-count and divice by 4.

16) Is he recommending being a 4 because it won't matter and you can still pull a 9? Pathetic.

I've said it before, and Ill elaborate it more here. TRP is about sex, at the end of the day it's all about getting a quick lay. TRP doesn't help you achieve self realization, or betterment. MRP is a bit better in that it focuses on building mission outside of women. "Be a quality man because you want to be. Then once you are, women are easy for the taking." RPC is about RP, and applying it to your Jesus focused marriage (or relationship that you intend on bringing to marriage.)

18) Whoever wrote this is really getting off on their own thoughts. If you can't explain a concept in it's most simple form then you shouldn't be dispersing that information. Brevity is key.

20) Simply not true. Hyperbole is for idiots and politicians.

29) (I'm not even going to dignify this one with a serious response.)

You are TOO HIGH VALUE Yes, you read that correctly. When you’re getting “rejected” by men, it’s because YOU’RE TOO HIGH VALUE FOR THEM, and it makes them nervous and self-conscious.

Get it girl!

bella_lucky7 · 2020-05-08T19:30:21+00:00

Thanks for the laugh, I can’t believe there are men that buy into this.

Deep_Strength · 2020-04-16T01:14:16+00:00

Attraction must be interpreted in the context of the Bible and marriage, as God created it that way. I have a long post on that here:

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/a-christian-understanding-of-attraction-and-the-role-it-plays-in-marriage-part-2/

Women are attracted to you because you have a stronger frame than they do. That’s all. There’s nothing else to it.

This is wrong on many levels. Women are attracted to celebrities all the time for their fame, power, and status. You can see which celebrities do well with women, and which one get the women and then they want out once they figure out that they're pushovers. Same with professional athletes (fame, status, looks, money) and rich businessmen (money too).

"Frame" - AKA learning how to be a strong masculine leader is of course attractive to women but it's something that generally develops over time. There's many things that can attract women before you even meet them.

Women would rather fuck an ugly guy with a strong frame than a handsome guy with a weak one

Sorta true. Sometimes not-so-handsome men get the girl because they have other factors going for them. And women would rather be with a handsome guy with strong frame more than both of the above.

Women will test you brutally when they want to sleep with you

They will do it even when they don't want to sleep with you. Many a friend-zoned man that hangs around his crush get tested all the time by the women making them do stuff for them or listening to their sob stories.

Fight Club analogy

Doesn't matter with committed Christian women.

TRP suffers from a lot of confirmation bias. It's a numbers game to get a girl to sleep with you, and the ones that will do are women that are promiscuous. So they overgeneralize women by understanding only how promiscuous women operate. This is not to say NAWALT (not all women are like that) or anything, but a bunch of the stuff flat out does not work with Christian women who are chaste and want to be in a relationship to be married.

Be her cheat meal

Doesn't matter with committed Christian women.

Cultivate a “reality distortion field”

No clue what this means

Passing tests is where ALL attraction is ultimately generated.

Wrong. Some to most of attraction is generated at first impression (how tall, how handsome, how muscular, how well you carry yourself and body language, etc). Another chunk is in masculinity, humor, charisma, and other attractive personality traits. Passing tests is a part.

It's more of a disqualifer than anything; women will generally only start throwing out tons of tests if they're interested sexually and you are pushing for sex.

You are TOO HIGH VALUE Yes, you read that correctly. When you’re getting “rejected” by girls, it’s because YOU’RE TOO HIGH VALUE FOR THEM, and it makes them nervous and self-conscious.

Not true at all in most cases. I suppose this is meant as confidence booster for the men reading that, but the men reading that are generally there because they are unsuccessful with women.

Overall, it's not a great post. Too many over-generalizations and a lot of just flat out wrong info that can be proved empirically.

Title	Do you believe in the core attraction principles of the red pill?
Author	IsAllThisReal
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Date	April 16, 2020 12:15 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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