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Best friend just roasts me. Also in front of LTR

December 27, 2019
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I've already seen a post like this, but want to ask for my specific case.

My best friend and I love music since forever, and both wanted to be a DJ. Yesterday for the second time I had the chance to play in the biggest venue in my city, and it was fucking great, this time I had a lot of compliments from strange people and even more from my other friends.

So my best friend is an incel for about 5 years now, doesn't have a job and will to game. The sole purpose for him to go to this venue with me was to watch me play. After the set all I hear from him is that some random guys in the crowd were really hating my set, and that sometimes I looked like I was giving my life for the set, as I was doing a lot of work behind the deck (kind in a negative way too). Not a fucking word about music selection, technique or anything. Ok.

When we're with my girlfriend, I think that 90% of all the conversations he has is something negative about me, be my sneaker thst he doesn't like or if I say anything cocky he says something like "oh woooow ForeverInYou, what a stuuud" in a very ironic tone and with a lot of emphasis, like it's for everybody to hear it.

I think the worst thing is that my GF 3/4 times play along with him (even tho she tells me how he's not a good friend to me), which irritates me as I end being the subject of lot of conversations since he only talks shit.

I know is common for guy friends to roast each other, but to me appears he hates me a bit.

What I can do to my GF and him? How should I behave in this situations and how to avoid them?

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Title Best friend just roasts me. Also in front of LTR
Author ForeverInYou
Upvotes 13
Comments 49
Date December 27, 2019 12:15 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]theUnBannableHulk36 points37 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Sounds more like WORST friend than BEST friend.

He is almost like a woman.

Break up with him you supplicating phaggot before your girl pity fucks him out of jealousy for your rising SMV.

“BEST” friend 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–]ThatCanReallyHappen8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Sounds more like WORST friend than BEST friend.

I can vouch for this. I've de friended so many people on Facebook (eventually deleted the whole thing) as well as defriended people in real life, including 2 really, really close friends that were just bringing me down (judging me, pissing me off acting immature, etc) and it's the best moves I've ever done. It eventually makes room for people that you really want in your life.

[–]theUnBannableHulk2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Props man. I know it's hard.

People are always Peanut Butter and Jealous when you do better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's true... I can count with some people, I make room for him because of history

[–]TeamRed28 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's jealous you have ambition and a gf, so he's trying to bring you down in an effort to elevate himself. Having history with someone isn't a good reason to let them drag you down. Crabs in a pot. Relationships come and go. If you are growing, sometimes you will outgrow people, and that's ok. Maybe down the road he will have a growth mindset and meet you where you are. Until then you need better friends.

[–]teabagabeartrap11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I was in that situation as well and what I did was to tell her afterwards in a calm manner, that I dislike him being like that to me and that I am sorry he is so bitter because he has no success in life / other reasons. In my case it was a guy that was a "friend" for me for a long time, because I thought he was loyal "where it counts". But in the end we both made feel shitty. I told her, that I will tell him in unter 4 eyes that I will not tolerate this anymore and then I told her, that if he doesn#t stop he needs a new friend.

I totally never said even one word about her. But she surely hamstered it together and never even once did this mistake.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Ok I get it. I'll do this, my girl is very easy-going with people and get into people moods/manner in a fast manner, I think it's her way to feel "accepted". But it's disgusting that she tries to be accepted by my friend rather than by me...

But at the same time, me and my girl joke about each other regularly but light-hearted, I think she kinda of feel OK to to this in front of him because I've told her he's my best friend and so on

[–]OracleofFl1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Simple response to your girl is, the next gig you have, tell her about it and tell her she shouldn't come because she doesn't like it. Her hamster wheel will spin like a top about the other chicks you will be talking to when you are there. Maybe suggest she hang with your incel friend that night since they share musical taste.

[–]mananlak0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

this is so stupid. you enter their frame and make it seem like the insults (which she viewed as playful ribbing from a best friend, true or not) got you and your thin skin

tell her she’s free to come if she likes. tell her you also invited other friends (some broads for impact) that are into it your music and interested. have fun at your next gig whether she’s there or not

and drop the dickwad you call your friend

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah if I mention this sit to her I'll say like the lad mentioned, just saying my friend is being too toxic lately

[–]TheFowo11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Girl is playing along because you're letting her to do that. Tell her you don't like her doing that and you won't tolerate that anymore. in a calm voice. Also, stop dragging this poor incel with you. He doesn't want to be your friend so why do you force him to. Friends are for helping and they should wish you well, not the worst.

[–]Whammywham8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d leave them both to it. Stop carrying them and get on your own path. If my girl EVER actEd with a fraction of the disrespect your girl treats you with... she wouldn’t be my girl anymore. And fuck that guy... stop hanging out with him.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Me and my girl joke about each other regularly, but its light-hearted, like laughing at each other feet smell, stupid shit like that, never about serious stuff. I think she kinda of feel OK to to this in front of him because I've told her he's my best friend and so on.

She also has an annoying feature to try to fit in. Example, she loves me with my X shoe, but for her to use, is too fucking big and not girly, although it's a unissex sneaker. My friend said "so LTR of my friend, what you think about this shitty shoe? " she then thought a second and said she didn't liked?? I was like what? Then she hammestered and explained that I've know that for her is not cool, but she loves in me etc etc. I think she responded she didn't like just to agree with an external opinion... Even though a complete answer probably would be "in me it's awful, but for him I like it"

[–]IAmNotMrRager5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this guy your best friend? My best friend let me crash at his place rent free for a month and took care of me. As others said dump the friend and talk to your girl. Easy peasy.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So, if he's telling you the truth, instead of being a dick, then it's you.

OTOH, if he's constantly being a nagging tool, then it's him.

Ex. I have a friend who is a musician, and also a rich entrepreneur, unrelated to his music. He writes songs and puts up videos. All of his stuff is in 4/4 time (rarely 3/4 but when that happens it's an accident). If the song sucks, I tell him. If he should have spent more time editing his lyrics I tell him. If he's singing in 5/4 and playing in 4/4, I tell him. OTOH, when he's on point, or the song is good, or his lyrics are good, I also tell him. In the former case, his little army of sycophants sometimes attack me, to which I reply, "Curt and I grew up together; I owe him the truth." He also understands that, when I tell him smth is good, he can believe it.

OTOH, if your friend is just a little bitch, cutting you down in front of your girl, then he's not your friend.

[–]thrwy754790 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

OTOH, when he's on point, or the song is good, or his lyrics are good, I also tell him.

Perhaps this is what OP's friend wants from him.

[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But what if it's not good? OTOH, maybe the OP is starting to get good or noticed as a DJ and his friend is a bucket crab. A lot of unknowns.

[–]ricklantis4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He’s jealous and she’s disrespectful. Nip that shit in the bud quick. Assertively tell your girl you won’t put up with her shit and call your friend out in public next time he tries something. You’re girl will have a choice to make to either respect you or continue her BS which in that case you know what to do and your friend will hopefully be so embarrassed that he respects you from now on.

[–]Psychological_Radish6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

All of this is your own fault. You hang out with this loser and then laugh along with his little jokes at your own expense. The reason why your GF goes along with it is because YOU go along with it. She takes her cues from YOU.

I don't get why guys are saying to dump her when you being a pussy is what's causing her to behave like this.

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, thanks

[–]muricanwerewolf110 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stop hanging out with losers who drag you down.

[–]TonyMcgregor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is typical behaviour from incel males or males who're very insecure with themselves. I have some friends who're pretty normal and level headed when around females with other friends. I also have friends who when they're around females suddenly they turn into assholes who try to put down their friends in front of females and become a total arsehole purely because they seem to think that their ' bullyish ' behaviour is some what attractive to females but in reality it isn't at all. Of course all males are going to compete with each other in front of females but this type of childish behaviour is a common occurrence amongst very insecure males and general virgins who have no idea how to act around females.

I would pull the guy aside and show the guy you aren't fucking around. Maybe let your girlfriend know as wll. I had a friend who attempted this behaviour in front of a girl we had just met and i pulled him aside and asked what the sudden behaviour change was and it stopped.

[–]BigDickEnergy1234 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

" think the worst thing is that my GF 3/4 times play along with him (even tho she tells me how he's not a good friend to me)"

Grow some fucking balls, dude. Next time after an incident like this happens text your friend "Hey, stop insulting me in front of my girlfriend or I don't want to hang out anymore."

Now, talk to your girlfriend "You said he's a bad friend, but you're being a bad girlfriend by playing along with it. If you keep doing this, I don't want to date you anymore." (Now she'll be like "oh fuck, he has balls now plus is cool with us breaking up? How do I fix this")

Fuck dude, it's not fucking rocket science to stand up for yourself.

[–]ur8moms4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Drop that dude. And keep an eye on ur girl. Btw reply to “oOoO, wHaT a sTuD!” With “yeah, no need to state the obvious” if u decide to be cocky maintain the frame throughout

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great advice

[–]RiffRaffAmerican2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Friends, partners, anyone in your personal circle should be adding value and positivity to your life.

Sounds like this guy doesn't have much to offer in that regard, so why is he still around?

[–]boy_named_su2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Learn to roast that motherfucker right back, without being a cunt like him. Take an improv class to think on your toes. Watch The League for their stellar trash talk. Read some Oscar Wilde for the wit.

But if it remains a problem, sit down over a beer and let him know it ain't what you're looking for in a friendship. If it doesnt work out, and least you improved your ribbing game

[–]iCeeYouP3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like he's about to fuck your bitch lmao too late find another bitch

[–]Jesusfeminist0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hahahahaha. Sounds like he’s already done it

[–]ForeverInYou[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not that paranoid. This would never happen, the guy can't lift his dick and doesn't even have any social media, he's isolated from everyone.

[–]hoopingblob3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Destroy him, then destroy your girl.

To your friend: Hey bud, do you still remember how pussy feels? 5 years is a long time and I think your hand is getting wrinkles. Do you still watch that weird asian puking porn?

You dump him afterwards

To your girl: Stacy we're done. You're probably the first bitch that didn't fuck like one.

Laugh at her face and then you dump her too

Don't befriend an incel and learn to talk shit back if you have to.

[–]MrShayy6 points7 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Talking shit back is retarded, only shows you’re weak and others opinions about you affect you.

Either Silence about it and show you don’t give a shit or agree and amplify, there’s a reason why it’s in the fucking sidebar and a big rule in this community. For GOOD reason.

[–]GNlght4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The thing is if it ACTUALLY bothers you it’s better to shoot sth back and feel better than pretending to not care but feeling bad for the whole night since this kinda shows.

[–]MrShayy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But the thing is, nothing bothers me anymore. I don’t let negative comments shot at me distract me, I just don’t give a fuck.

And if you think that’s bad because I can’t get criticized and improve myself, there’s a difference between criticism and negativity.

It’s all about your mindset.

[–]hoopingblob5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Life isn't a manuscript and you can't interpret everything from the sidebar, only some things and even then you don't copy and paste it you just implement it in your life. Doesn't mean you do everything the sidebar says, because if you do then you don't live freely on your own terms.

The sidebar is a guide to be the perfect man but you shouldn't strive to be perfect, you should strive to be Human. That's why some people can't get off this site and consume everything TRP tells them. That's why some will never approach a girl even tho they are "redpilled"

It's okay to talk back sometimes and show people that they shouldn't fuck with you. If you always A&A they will think at some point that you are a moron and then you will become a carpet regardless of TRP knowledge. It's okay to A&A or ignore the first time or the second time but if it happens the third time you should draw a line and let them know. That's how people will respect you in the end.

I'm sorry to break it to you but the sidebar isn't your savior. It's merely a guide to the right direction but it's still you who takes the steps.

[–]AJ_KG_JG2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely what hoopingblob said.

You've got to calibrate your response to the situation. Most of the time, around most people, and for most stuff they say/do, you'll want to let the small stuff slide and laugh about it. It shows confidence and that you're not threatened by every little thing. However, sometimes you've got to draw the line and "check a bitch".

I remember somebody somewhere once used the metaphor of the lion and the jackals. Sometimes the lion has to remind the jackals of who he is.

[–]MrShayy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I never said the sidebar is my savior and in fact I haven’t read anything from it for a very long time. Actually didn’t read any red pill post for as long as I remember. I was just scrolling reddit at work and saw this and felt like commenting.

The thing is, I disagree with you. I haven’t talked back to shit thrown at me for a very long time and managed to get through it in other ways, of which the results were great. Especially the ignoring way.

But you do you, and I’ll do me.

[–]hoopingblob1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I never said the sidebar is my savior and in fact I haven’t read anything from it for a very long time

This wasn't specifically to you but more generally.

The thing is, I disagree with you. I haven’t talked back to shit thrown at me for a very long time and managed to get through it in other ways, of which the results were great. Especially the ignoring way.

That's great but remember that Life is messy and one day something will happen that you just can't ignore. I hope it doesn't but it's inevitable in the end.

I'm glad you're doing well and I'm glad we can agree to disagree on this one.

Have a good one

[–]MrShayy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You too mate, good luck.

[–]pinymax0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dump them both, fuck them.

[–]skuttt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not a friend. Next.

[–]Bluedog5x50 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s crazy seeing other people experience things I have too on here

[–]Sad_Sleeper0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Cut him off. It is for the better. I did that 2 weeks ago and i feel like i had to do it long time ago.

I figured out that this friendship no longer benefited me and the negatives were more than the possitives.

[–]Snowaey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, listen to everyone else and drop your piece of shit of a friend and let him rot until he decides to fucking change.

[–]1Red_Pill_Brotherhood0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Drop the 'friend', tell your girl to how to act.

[–]Arnoux0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know is common for guy friends to roast each other

I am not sure about it. Yes sometimes and hopefully in private. But not all the time and in front of other people.

[–]priapula0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you mean bestfriend? If I we're you're best friend you know I'm hyping you up. But if you are retarded I'll be telling you too

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[–]ForeverInYou[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do AA several times, but times I just feel annoyed and can't hold frame. He's ny best friend for a long time and of course he's comments have some power over me, but the guy is a fuck, even when I graduated he tried to mock me... I'm done with him

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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